Show thread 2

Organize

This does not sound like Sam. The Sherril reference was a giveaway.

No one blogging today.

I stayed up late, painting.

A new Thread, Thanks Lauren :)

Post modern hipsterism. Get behind it.

Bully me. That's hot!

Hee hee!

tell chad to take some call ins!!!

you guys did some fine interviews indeed!

(post the links to all their websites if you get a chance?)

War? No thanks!
We'll burn your fucking banks!

to the 2 party system. Business needs uber alles! Go Hillary! Whup Rudy!

I fully expect the show to be completed on time, however... if not... I'm prepared for a 20 minute diatribe on Mitt Romney's latest tirade.

Chad in Control

Show us.

credentialing bloggers! There you have it, folks. Get on the gravy train while the getting's good.

Lauren heard your spot on Hartmann

The belief is real.

Single-payer healthcare

Economic Bill of Rights

Federal jobs program to repair
the nation's infrastructure

Political parties

Still here in Chicago...and I expect that Sam is in transit. He did a fantastic job here of MCing and it was so great to have him here....it was almost like Air America is still alive and kicking, though I think that Green should have supported much more participation here;
Besides that Cenk was hanging round...but it didn't seem like he was in any official capacity.
Anyway, people are either gone or leaving the hotel/convention and I booked an extra night to rest, thank god...so am here trying to get a blog post up...
There are a couple there, but my presidential forum-closing keynote one with pictures is still not up...it will take around an hour...
What an absolutely great time this was...definitely am coming next year!!

For anyone who is wishing the show had been a live one, at least know that this event was really important to the progressive liberal movement, and it was very important that Sam was here...not just for what he does, but also for the continuation of liberal talk...even in the time of Mark Green.
If you wanted a live show then email Green and tell him that youre disappointed that AAR wasnt broadasting completely from this thing...I mean, all the presidential candidates, except Biden, saw fit to come here and spend alot of time with us....it was crazy that they didnt send at least Rachel too and set up a studio...there was a huge amount of stuff going on and a tremendous amount of people to talk to....tons of press from all over the world...

and it was a kind of fun that everyone should have been able to participate in somehow (besides the second life, which I couldnt quite get my girl walking in...and I think it sorta crashed anyway because of the load from this)

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

I like Sam's regular radio voice, but I'm enjoying this one, too. It's interesting to hear him sounding more relaxed.

Meanwhile in London... I wonder why Ana Del Dan wasn't at the pub the other night.

AC
More liberal media at The Sideshow

Thanks for getting this up on the fly Lauren.....you must be exhausted!!

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

I love the show,Lauren and Sam;we're not hearing from the 'usual suspects,' so it may push us to read some more & different blogs
Nancy Cadet

bell hooks there?

http://www.allaboutbell.com/

we don't spend a lot of time on whose race is what.

people are considered here mainly by their uniqueness and rep.

I am pleased to announce that there will be a third hour of Seder on Sundays.  Although Chad was at the ready.  Maybe next time, buddy...

somethng went wrong here in NY. i get the show by streaming Seattle or Portland but Portland wasn't up even after 25r min so switched to Seattle which was ok until it suddenly started broadcasting some race car? show---idon't know what it was but it's still on after 45min... anyone have a clue?

Edited live by Lauren on Sunday

been reading along at RIPCoco.

lots of interesting things about the conf to discuss.e

Snuck in a quick head shot on Friday. Were you doing a Hartmann interview from the hotel room.

http://www.620kpoj.com/

This really was a big deal, you should have heard CNN trying to act like it wasn't because they didn't have a live correspondent present. It is as if they don't want to give Liberals ANY credibility for our growing movement and ability to organize and effect election. They are terrified of us.
Janice Brown

From the very end of the last thread...
Submitted by Melina on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 5:46pm.

If you wanted a live show then email Green and tell him that youre disappointed that AAR wasnt broadasting completely from this thing...I mean, all the presidential candidates, except Biden, saw fit to come here and spend alot of time with us....it was crazy that they didnt send at least Rachel too and set up a studio...

This really was a big deal, you should have heard CNN trying to act like it wasn't because they didn't have a live correspondent present. It is as if they don't want to give Liberals ANY credibility for our growing movement and ability to organize and effect election. They are terrified of us.
Janice Brown

From the very end of the last thread...
Submitted by Melina on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 5:46pm.

If you wanted a live show then email Green and tell him that youre disappointed that AAR wasnt broadasting completely from this thing...I mean, all the presidential candidates, except Biden, saw fit to come here and spend alot of time with us....it was crazy that they didnt send at least Rachel too and set up a studio...

What is 2/3 of 1?

D666 23. 23.

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http://www.airamerica.com/listen/?q=wmp

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http://www.1240talkcity.com/

might catch on as another name for blogger .. hope to hear Mr Rabb on Sam's show on occasion, and other AAR shows .. Pam Spaulding too.

further left than that, dude.

not left. Coalition vessels. Talk about who has power.

airamerica.com/ ... ringoffire/181/1947

As outlandish as it sounds, the scheme is moving ahead toward implementation. It threatens Canadian, Mexican and US national sovereignty and priorities, and their people and ours are none the wiser about it. NAFTA is a glimpse of what's ahead. It's record in 12.5 years has been disastrous with huge numbers of job losses and growing insecurity in three countries. Working people aren't part of the SPP process, and their concerns aren't being addressed and are guaranteed to worsen as this initiative advances.

It's doing it at secret meetings like the one from September 12 - 14, 2006 in Banff, Alberta, Canada. It was co-chaired by three former high officials of the participating nations including a leading US cold warrior as Reagan Secretary of State, George Shultz. He has all the credentials SPP needs as a former Bechtel president and current board member also holding memberships at the hard right Hoover Institution and American Enterprise Institute, the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, and the Committee on the Present Danger military lobbying group. ... - Steve Lendman
sjlendman.blogspot.com/ ... annexation-of-north

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway

Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn.

humanevents.com/ ...15497

SPP Myth vs. Fact spp.gov/ ... facts ???

Myth: The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.

Fact: The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries. The SPP is not an agreement nor is it a treaty. In fact, no agreement was ever signed.

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency.

Myth: The SPP is being undertaken without the knowledge of the U.S. Congress.

Fact: U.S. agencies involved with SPP regularly update and consult with members of Congress on our efforts and plans.

By addressing common security and prosperity issues through this process, officials in all three countries have enhanced existing relationships, created new ones, and have strengthened the foundations for ongoing cooperation among our countries.

Announcement hold the next trilateral Leaders’ meeting in Canada further underlines the three governments’ commitment to the SPP.

Michael Chertoff Secretary of Homeland Security

Condoleezza Rice Secretary of State

Carlos Gutierrez Secretary of Commerce

Carlos Abascal Secretario de Gobernación

Sergio García de Alba Secretario de Economía

Luis Ernesto Derbez Secretario de Relaciones Exteriores

Stockwell Day Minister of Public Safety

Maxime Bernier Minister of Industry

Peter G. MacKay Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

theyoungturks.com/ ... 912

airamerica.com/ ... ringoffire/165/185.

airamerica.com/ ... ringoffire/160/176.

dotcom

airamerica.com/ ... ringoffire/181/1947

As outlandish as it sounds, the scheme is moving ahead toward implementation. It threatens Canadian, Mexican and US national sovereignty and priorities, and their people and ours are none the wiser about it. NAFTA is a glimpse of what's ahead. It's record in 12.5 years has been disastrous with huge numbers of job losses and growing insecurity in three countries. Working people aren't part of the SPP process, and their concerns aren't being addressed and are guaranteed to worsen as this initiative advances.

It's doing it at secret meetings like the one from September 12 - 14, 2006 in Banff, Alberta, Canada. It was co-chaired by three former high officials of the participating nations including a leading US cold warrior as Reagan Secretary of State, George Shultz. He has all the credentials SPP needs as a former Bechtel president and current board member also holding memberships at the hard right Hoover Institution and American Enterprise Institute, the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, and the Committee on the Present Danger military lobbying group. ... - Steve Lendman
sjlendman.blogspot.com/ ... annexation-of-north

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway

Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn.

humanevents.com/ ...15497

SPP Myth vs. Fact spp.gov/ ... facts ???

Myth: The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.

Fact: The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries. The SPP is not an agreement nor is it a treaty. In fact, no agreement was ever signed.

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency.

Myth: The SPP is being undertaken without the knowledge of the U.S. Congress.

Fact: U.S. agencies involved with SPP regularly update and consult with members of Congress on our efforts and plans.

By addressing common security and prosperity issues through this process, officials in all three countries have enhanced existing relationships, created new ones, and have strengthened the foundations for ongoing cooperation among our countries.

Announcement hold the next trilateral Leaders’ meeting in Canada further underlines the three governments’ commitment to the SPP.

Michael Chertoff Secretary of Homeland Security

Condoleezza Rice Secretary of State

Carlos Gutierrez Secretary of Commerce

Carlos Abascal Secretario de Gobernación

Sergio García de Alba Secretario de Economía

Luis Ernesto Derbez Secretario de Relaciones Exteriores

Stockwell Day Minister of Public Safety

Maxime Bernier Minister of Industry

Peter G. MacKay Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

theyoungturks.com/ ... 912

airamerica.com/ ... ringoffire/165/185.

airamerica.com/ ... ringoffire/160/176.

if Alice is listening on her car radio. She is roadtripping to LA, isn't she?

...1/2 watching SciFi/Fan brewed with Mimosas and Tea and The Gold and Green. ;) ... A Super Natural Speed Ball. LBH. ;) ... The Goblin King said laugh.
Although always checking back ... as Hoggle said, "If you want me?" ;)

Salut!

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eya LaL!

Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 5:11pm.
effin golfists!!!

i live for the irony...

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"Golfists." *snicker*

Say hi to bgurl for me, too.

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"hello from Chad in the AAR Control Room"

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Danke for the collective compliment.

You wouldn't by any chance have Green's cell number, would ya?

Promise! We won't rat you out even if they waterboard us.

*snark*

Not much blog action today.

I tried KPOJ again and 1240Talk. I allowed popups..still a no-go..the system just hangs at the 'play' screen..anyone else in NY having the same problm? I have prev'ly gone on kpoj and 1190Seattle before so this shouldn't have been a prob...[help]...guess i'll try later on airamericaminnesota where i found the show was rebroadcast at 1am EST [tonite].

I am streaming the AAR regular feed.

Was that you on the radio last week? Celebrity caller.

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Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 6:20pm.

Yes i think watching the crowds cheer tiger on to yet another trouncing of his fellow golfers is more interesting than listening to these interviews.

I've watched and listened to EVERY Sammy show since the begining and without the sammy cam and his wrap up of the weekly irony that is the bush admin this is just not that appealing to me.

I'm going to go out and enjoy the great summer weather.Perhaps today would be a good day for all of us to do so.

P.S.just because i like tiger woods doesn't make me a republican
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People should not be afraid of their governments...Governments should be afraid of their people.

The people of france know this to be true and they protest every bad decision their gov. makes and they get results.we need to get out into the streets before it's illegal to do so.

The end of ALL our freedoms is near.Do something
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Market perception. Oooh! All hail. Don't question why we must play this awful power game.

But I didn't find this thread until just a few minutes ago.

And like the others, I thought someone was sitting in for Sam -- now he sounds sorta like himself -- but is it the MIKE or is Sam just very muted or with a cold?

Also -- what is the best email for Mark Green these days? (I think I actually have his "new" home address somewhere -- I could send him a card :-)

Peace hugs! And yes it is a good show and I missed the first part of it but always look forward to the podcast. (And thinking it was some other interviewer and not seeing you guys I watched the Edwards-Clinton-Obama (primarily) discussion on lobbying. Hot stuff!

People should not be afraid of their governments...Governments should be afraid of their people.

The government fears us, too. Luckily, there is the Democratic Party too suck out our creative energy.

I know sam is on location with diff. equipment but that doesn't explain why he sounds like he sounds like a completly different person
Perhaps this entire show is being being run by Karl Rove and sam is already in guantonamo

A whole segment dedicated to stocks and bonds.Theres not enough alchohol to get through this show.

Come home soon Sammyyyyyyyyy

I can tell the difference between "conspirisy theories" and real news. I've been in the kitchen making cookies, so I just now saw your post. I would have replied on the blog, but there are other anon's. Anyway Thank You
Leigh Ann

losers. That's what it is all about.

Markets Rule! That's why everything sucks!

at about 2:30 in the morning the other day. I am not usually up that late or that early. But I love Jon -- most of the time :-) -- and enjoy podcasting him. He got me through my move from an old apartment to my new place -- that was when he was on earlier for his two hours which NYC carried. (I understand WWRL sometimes carries his show now but I have yet to catch it -- and I am a morning person.)

One thing he says, that his show is the fastest three hours on radio. I'd say Seder on Sunday is that.

YBNurmal caught me too, fyi :)

is for whomever posted the NASCO stuff. Makes me feel left-but-not-so-loony.
Leigh Ann

"P.S.just because i like tiger woods doesn't make me a republican"

I was commenting on the irony of your choice: Watching golf on TV...w/ THOSE commentators...as compared to listening Sam's interviews.

Got no prob w/ you "golfists," either. *snark*

Schieffer Slams Ted Stevens and Applauds Ethics Reform
By: Nicole Belle @ 3:40 PM - PDT

In his closing commentary on Face The Nation, Bob Schieffer applauds the Democratic majority’s attempt to clean up Congress (although you won’t hear him credit them) and uses Ted Stevens’ recent raid as an example of the dangers of not enacting reform.

Download (43) | Play (36) Download (13) | Play (26) (thanks to Bill W. for the videos)

…As for Stevens, a friend says he sincerely believes he’s done nothing wrong. To me, that’s the most damning part. If that is what the Capitol’s longest serving legislator really believes, then there’s no question tougher laws were needed.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/05/schieffer-slams-ted-stevens-and...

personally i'm digging on hearing some grassroots bloggers.

lots of ambition representing, but thats humman nature and how else to keep it all flying?

lots of good info and snarkicity in the interviews...

good enuff for dum ol shits like me.

Is that from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette?? (Teeny font) A real keeper AND a good one to FWD.

is for whomever posted the NASCO stuff. Makes me feel left-but-not-so-loony.
Leigh Ann

This is going on all of the time. It ensure that the powerful stays in power. They are not unassailable, either. Educate. Agitate. Organize.

(if u pleez)

always brings to mind 'caddy shack'

but with more cliqueishness and addiditional pretentious greedosity.

My point was this hasn't been the most interesting Sammy show iv'e heard and iv'e become addicted to the Sammy cam.It's just not the same without the cam.The cam is one reason why Sam's show is more fun than Randi,Thom etc..(not that their not great)

P.S.Tiger won

Federal jobs program to repair and construct infrastructure. (Ed Schultz talked about this. Good idea.)

If you all hav'nt seen it yet "From Freedom to Fascism" is one of the most important documentary films you will ever see.

It's free on google video

Oil and war is where the money is.

..thanQ for the help...I have no idea what happened...also Sam does sound a little different, a little bit low-keyed but still great...altho I miss the 'live' version--also heard the promo for bringing Richard Bey [to NY evening slot after Rachel]... I've heard him before and wasnot impressed with the opinions he expressed recently. ..very disappointed Sam was not restored.

See you guys soon.

Peace

I can't belive that guy sam just interviewed said we should buy exxonmobil stocks if we want to make money.Wwwwhat is this fox news.

Can you say blood money

Leigh Ann -- what is NASCO? -- should I blush to ask. Not NASCAR :-)

I got my post up but pictures are coming in half an hour or so depending on if I go for dinner now or wait.

Thanks sammy...you sounded fine...
It was the hotel room, carpet and all, and the different equipment...I think so anyway.
In the beginning of radio they made hotelroom bathrooms the studios because of the sound. Im sure that it was lack of a real recording studio that has thrown y'all off...but it was definitley our Sam and he didnt seem to have a sore throat when he was walking round the lobby and up on the stage announcing.

check it...and check back for pics....
Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

Great cartoon, Toni
Submitted by KateAnne on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 6:51pm.
Is that from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette?? (Teeny font) A real keeper AND a good one to FWD.

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The cartoon is from Yahoo cartoon page by cartoonist.

I also put it on my blog.

http://tonidsyathink.blogspot.com/

Summer sky

reality check!!!

http://pst.rbma.com/content/Opus

Final thought:There's 380 million of us and about 5 million of them.

Can we do the math.REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still have to go over there and watch the Dean keynote.... (I rarely can see the whole of anything in the embedded version -- I always seem to have to leap to the site. I suspect that is an issue with my older Mac -- over 3 years old.)

Glad some of the gang came to chat. YOU as well as the Sammy Cam make the difference for catching the show "live" and not waiting for the podcast.

Peace hugs!

always good to read ya here!

YES!!!!!!!!!!! And we might even have to stop being pacifists.If it's ok for them to murder us and disappear us then maybe it's time we took a cue from our founding fathers.Don't give up your guns!!!!!!

Since The above link isn't working

Sadly I don't have....
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 5:20pm.
Chad here again. Sorry to tell you, but I don't have the ability to start a new thread. Heck, I'm still posting as Anonymous for crying out loud :D.
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So YOU are the Anonymous who keeps posting the Hillary photo?

Scroll up to 2 previous posts SPP.... and SPP2
North American Superhighway Corridor. Those 2 posts bring together information from Zeitgeistmovie.com part 3. I had never heard of this until last night when I watch Zeitgeist. Leigh Ann

Now for something completely different! :)
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Guitarist bites lip during solo-Courtesy of bibimimi.......Plus I'll keep adding Mp3's as soon as I can

A Mp3 Outpost/Oasis-------Stand Alone Player!Hee!Hee!-- A Stand Alone Player for The Blog--Please Add Mp3's to Your Comments..If ya Have Them!!

Link-Music Mic-Mp3 Oasis

Participation by All is Mandatory!!
Just kidding,ofcourse.
Starting out small,but will get Big with your help!Thanks.......
I'll take wordisms too,crank..Mp3's if ya got um.... :)

If you knew your own government killed 3000 of it's own citizens would you do anything about it?

Thomas Jefferson advising his daughter Martha in 1787....

"Determine never to be idle. No person will have occasion to complain of the want of time who never loses any. It is wonderful how much can be done if we are always doing. (Just like I'll be doing black Sally...out behind the barn in about thiry minutes.")

If I had superpowers I would. It just a fear of being disappeared that keeps me from acting on fantasies of..... Nevermind.

When you're naked, do your balls get carpet burns? :D LA

When a person is concentrating on a task, biting the lip is cool but sticking out the tongue is uncool.

Why is that?

my house today! I didn't go and I didn't turn

the TV on. I share George Carlin's opinion on

golf.

We've got a Tornado warning here.

Hope all the Kos people got out of Chicago already. O'Hare is west of the city and in direct line of the Tornado watch!

Submitted by toniD on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 7:20pm.
We've got a Tornado warning here.
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toniD,
I can see the headline:

God Blows Away Liberal Blogosphere

Sam has got it all over other talk show hosts on interviews, in addition to his many other skills and attributes--he asks researched/thoughtful questions and lets his guests answer fully without or before injecting his own experience, perception or opinion. I wasn't sure I was going to enjoy today's show, but Sam is great whether broadcasting live or delayed; and the show was, as usual, entertaining and informative.

Thanks to everyone for bringing it to us.

The Sam Seder Show five days a week, please!!!!!!!!!!!

Ditto my friend Ditto.I couldn't have,almost,said it better

about 15 miles southwest of where I am. A funnel cloud was sited in that area also.

How is the infrastructure there?

Your not in Kansas anymore Dorthy,get to the celler

A 22-year-old man who was "not fully clothed" jumped the north fence into the White House grounds today and was immediately apprehended, the U.S. Secret Service said.

Justin Arrieta, of Cocoa Beach, Florida, was arrested for unlawful entry and taken for processing to the District of Columbia police department, Secret Service spokeswoman Kim Bruce said.

She said Arrieta was only on the grounds of the White House for a matter of seconds and there were no reports of injury. She declined to say what he was wasn't wearing or if he was aroused while trespassing.

about populism. We're off to see the Wizard...

toniD: "...A funnel cloud was sited in that area also..."
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This may be the first time that I have seen a sentence in which cited, sited or sighted would be acceptable depending upon intent.

If you knew your own government killed 3000 of it's people,would you do anything about it?

Good name for a Band! :)

Ignore that 9/11 spammer.

And why bother to repeat it? What the hell do

you want any of us to do about it? It's Sunday

fucking night for crissakes!

How many of its people have been killed in the illegal Iraq war? By the bad health care system? What else?

But its free!!

WOW

FREE!

YOUR SHOW IS AT THE WORST TIME IN THE WORLD!!

MY NAP TIME!

I ALWAYS MISS IT!

Why is stupid lame ass 'Clout' replayed so much...

If you discovered that you really are a perfect asshole...

just like many people have been telling you that you are...

would you do anything about it?

If you discovered that you really are a perfect asshole...

just like many people have been telling you that you are...

would you do anything about it?

Are you talking about people, or the government and corporations? It makes a difference.

the guy that keeps spamming us with that

assholian question!

In a move that might make some people scratch their heads, a loosely formed coalition of left-leaning bloggers are trying to band together to form a labor union they hope will help them receive health insurance, conduct collective bargaining or even set professional standards.

The effort is an extension of the blogosphere's growing power and presence, especially within the political realm, and for many, evokes memories of the early labor organization of freelance writers in the early 1980s.

Organizers hope a bloggers' labor group will not only showcase the growing professionalism of the Web-based writers, but also the importance of their roles in candidates' campaigns.

"I think people have just gotten to the point where people outside the blogosphere understand the value of what it is that we do on the progressive side," said Susie Madrak, the author of Suburban Guerilla blog, who is active in the union campaign. "And I think they feel a little more entitled to ask for something now."

But just what that something is may be hard to say.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070805/ap_on_hi_te/unionized_bloggers;_ylt=...

the guy that keeps spamming us with that

assholian question!

»I know you were. It was a good question, though. People might do something about the assholian condition they are in--unless they are sociopathic--like corporations.

Story neglects to mention in any way what the faithless are

doing.

Maybe...if it is asked ONCE. He was spamming the question.

My comment.....what the hell are we supposed to do, grab a

pitchfork and a torch and run to the village square?

because that's last weeks episode MRR!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/comics/opus.html

Oliver Hosts a "Cosmic Reality Check Event!!!"

(based on what we just looked at with the new array!

Mind blower eh?)

In every state except Maine and Nebraska, electoral votes are winner-take-all. It makes California, with 55 electoral votes, the nation's top prize -- it has more than one fifth of the votes needed to win the election.

Newsweek's Jonathan Alter notes that a Republican-led effort in the Golden State seeks to change the system, and make it easier for the GOP candidate to take a chunk of California's 55 votes.

Instead of laboring in vain to turn California Red, a clever lawyer for the state Republican Party thought of a gimmicky shortcut. Thomas Hiltachk, who specializes in ballot referenda that try to fool people in the titles and fine print, is sponsoring a ballot initiative for the June 3, 2008, California primary (which now falls four months after the state's presidential primary).

The Presidential Election Reform Act would award the state's electoral votes based on who wins each congressional district. Had this idea been in effect in 2004, Bush would have won 22 electoral votes from California, about the same number awarded the winners of states like Illinois or Pennsylvania. In practical terms, adopting the initiative would mean that the Democratic candidate would likely have to win both Ohio and Florida in 2008 (instead of one or the other) to be elected.

Hiltachk, who is lying low for now, is a former campaign lawyer for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. The governor's office says Schwarzenegger has no position on the initiative and "had absolutely nothing to do with its development." But whichever way Schwarzenegger goes, several GOP presidential candidates and their financial backers have already offered to help boost the plan. Just interested in good government? They've shown a curious lack of interest in backing the same idea in Red States.

Is the measure likely to pass? Californian Kevin Drum believes it's unlikely, but adds that Dems will probably have to spend quite a bit to ensure its defeat (which is probably the point of the initiative).

--Steve Benen

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/016225.php

that's my opinion.

is there ANY doubt that the trade centers were demolished on top of all those people?

described the Bush Administration today as..

"Machine Against The Rage."

Your question (and comment?) was good. The other was spam.

My comment.....what the hell are we supposed to do, grab a

pitchfork and a torch and run to the village square?

»Hey!

Faithful Pray for Minneapolis Victims (AP headline)
Submitted by Peter Dragon on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 8:12pm.
Story neglects to mention in any way what the faithless are
doing.
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Debauching would be my guess.

Faithful Pray for Minneapolis Victims (AP headline)
Submitted by Peter Dragon on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 8:12pm.
Story neglects to mention in any way what the faithless are
doing.

I thought the same thing. As if the faithless don't have hearts or feelings.

that they don't have any pitchforks or torches!

Club's closing ignited 'riots' on the Sunset Strip

Young rock fans take to the streets after the shuttering of Pandora's Box in 1966. The unrest inspired Stephen Stills' landmark anthem.

I thought the same thing. As if the faithless don't have hearts or feelings.

»No. Corporations don't have hearts and souls. Got that?

that they don't have any pitchforks or torches!

Get the assess of the masses in the streets.

The goddamn problem with people today is
Submitted by Peter Dragon on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 8:40pm.
that they don't have any pitchforks or torches!
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The last time I carried a torch it didn't end well.

Hey. I am still carrying torches. Persistence and quantity--and fortune.--that's what counts.

The last time I carried a torch it didn't end well.

Maybe it was the wrong torch!

that was the local fuzz and the LA sheriff getting a chance to get rid of some hippies mostly.

the "riots" were pretty much egged on by the local rednecks after the first night.

Crank,
Submitted by toniD on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 8:51pm.
[Bait]: "The last time I carried a torch it didn't end well."

[toniD]: "Maybe it was the wrong torch!"

Bait: "Or the wrong monster..."

http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=13445&sectionID=2

After my family phone call, I am fascinated by your comments to/about the 9/11 spammer. Love the adjective you used, "assholian" -- LOL!!

The faithful/faithless comments are terrific, too. Hmmmmmmm.

And the Toronado comments....

You guys (includes both sexes -- or should I say all sexes?) are great to be around.

Yes, Sam for five days a week. (Who is this new guy WWRL is getting from 8-10 weeknights instead of the Sammy (Sam Greenfield) and Army repeat AND the Air Americans that they could be getting? Never heard of him -- can't remember his name as I've only heard the commercial a few times the end of last week. ARGH!!)

Well, I did say I am not a night person and it is almost 9 pm here in the Big Apple.

Hope all get back safely from the Kos conference. Lots of good stuff today -- but I didn't get much sleep last night so I have good reason to fade tonight.

up up up

Opus!
Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 8:17pm
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but,your link wasn't working.... :)

He doesn't sound at all like himself.
Bizarre. I thought it was some kind of joke...

I was on the road all evening and could not get it...
Under The LobsterScope

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