Whoopsie

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-91837577489055402&hl=en-GB

about how it's more acceptable for men to lose their composure in the workplace.

So losing her composure is not an issue...(to me) ...even though I can't see the vid..I bet they treat this like the Howard Dean thing maybe? I don't know..it's all a joke anyway...

saying how she is the first woman in this situation...how other women have run for president..but not with this exposure...

Edwards, at his best, is pushing towards social democracy. In the dominant culture, this is the furthest left we can hope for. By 1968, the US was virtually social democratic, but even then, countervailing forces were at work eroding the system.

Corporations are private tyrannies. Corporations demand sociopathic behavior. Sociopathology is bad for the soul.

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

peek a boo

Help me out with this communist talk.

out of politics is a start. How will it lead to overcoming tyranny?

Money.

Guests on the Show
show airs live 4pm-7pm ET
8/6 Sunday's Guests:
Special Yearly Kos 2007 Edition!!!!!!!

and more!

Love it! Canned and live? Oh, I don't care, I'll be there either way. Bonddad! Yay!

I cannot believe AAR/Green doesn't get that this is hotter than Paris in the slammer. Can hardly stand the wait for the show. Vids, will we be able to see them all later? You probably don't have the answer to that, so please, maybe acknowledge that you're working toward it? And btw, get some rest!

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

Abolish great disparities in wealth.

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Singin’ ~ Ms. Peggy Lee!!! Enjoy!!!

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

Whoopsie
Submitted by SEDER on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 2:20am.
TPM Media captures the seminal moment int he Yearly Kos Presidential forum. Clinton really loses her bearing here and argues

Washington lobbyists are a good thing. As you know I am not generally interested in the horse racey quality of these things, but..... this is a major screw up by Clinton. One, simply on the issue, I'm sorry Washington lobbyists are not on balance a positive for our government. Two, she has shown she can lose her composure.

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Obama continues to have his defeated look. He is slumped over and appears exhausted.

The dude resembles me during my college days.

-M the a-c

Obama came out against using nukes recently, much to the shock of Hillary. Liberals are tearing into him for saying he wants to go into Pakistan and capture OBL. Where is the kudos for his nuke denouncement?

Who never read a book
Charmed the literati
And a smile was all it took...
I was laughing with Picasso
When she first entered the room
But Gershwin, Tristan Tzara
And Man Ray saw her too
There was never any doubt
All would try to take her home
But she refused their every move
Preferred to be alone
And a rose...a rose is a rose
Zelda had a breakdown
Fitzgerald hit the bar
His hand was broken, words were spoken
Didn't get too far
Hemmingway was smoother
More debonair and fun
But he would say her repartee
Was meaner than a gun
And a rose...
A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose

-A Rose Is A Rose.

say.

Nicky Rose submits:
Peaches
Help me out with this communist talk.

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How can I help? It's a Party!! ; )

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

you've been here too long for me to not know where you are (appr.) - what age you are... - do you raise children? - what do you do for money?

and what makes you happy?

I just noticed something

check out John Edwards' facial expression from 4:52 to 4:40 when Hillary says, "lobbyists represent real Americans"

-M the a-c

I love to see you at my table Nick[i]. You remind me of a--of a rose, an absolute rose...She turned to Miss Alice for confirmation: "An absolute rose?"
F. Scott Fitzgerald, "The Great Gatsby"

m-the-ac
Submitted by Alice on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:18am.
you've been here too long for me to not know where you are (appr.) - what age you are... - do you raise children? - what do you do for money?

I'm two months removed from age 30. I'm a child of wealth.

When I graduated in Michigan, the unemployment rate there was, I believe 15%, and the wages were god-awful even for college graduates so I basically lived on my father's wealth and a job that he created for me. I have lived in such a manner for almost 7 years.

I am going to move to Los Angeles soon. I probably have a future there.

I hate children. I'm a disciple of Tom Leykis-- i.e.: get it, then get out.

Now you know.

-M.

Now for something completely different! :)
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oh
Submitted by Alice on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:19am.
and what makes you happy?

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Younger women.

Money.

-M.

Link

"Thank you GOD..."

Is he still on the air?

Tell me when you get to LA...

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Traces
Submitted by Nicky Rose on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:24am.
I love to see you at my table Nick[i]. You remind me of a--of a rose, an absolute rose...She turned to Miss Alice for confirmation: "An absolute rose?" -F. Scott Fitzgerald, "The Great Gatsby"
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THAT is HOT, Nicky....

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-I'm a disciple of Tom Leykis-
Submitted by Alice on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:28am.
"Thank you GOD..."

Is he still on the air?

Tell me when you get to LA...

»
reply

Are you getting frisky with me, Alice?
Alright. I'll tell you... I can't make any guarantees for you, though.

haha
-M the a-c

three of ..no five of my friends live there....I always have fun there..I used to live there...

Frisky?....well...you know me... ;)

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/4702

By Michael Santo
Executive Editor, RealTechNews

I feel a bit safer now. Just kidding. This is just the first step; it’s not even the full House, just a panel. And of course, getting it past Bush, who has voiced opposition to the shield, is most likely a lost cause.

In response to concerns raised by the Bush administration and other politicians, the revised bill attempts to exclude the “casual blogger” from reaping those benefits by stipulating the protections apply only to those who derive “financial gain or livelihood” from the journalistic activity, Boucher said Wednesday. That broad rule could, however, include part-time writers who receive even a trickle of revenue from Google Ads or Blogads.com. Source: News.com

Sooo..is Leykis still on or what?
Submitted by Alice on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:38am.

Yeah, Leykis is still on.

I'm out for now... SNL and getting tired

-M.

Do you really only spend 40.00 on the first date?

http://www.blowmeuptom.com/tom-leykis-show.tl

Show your rack.

oh
Submitted by Alice on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:19am.
and what makes you happy?

MM...

:)

I'm not sure how old you are.... :)

Nicky Rose submits:

Edwards, at his best, is pushing towards social democracy.
In the dominant culture, this is the furthest left we can hope for.

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I agree that Edwards is the best hope!!

Tho' I keep hearin' about Obama & his hope!

I don't hold out much hope for Clinton tho'!!

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(Edwards ~ his downside is his feathered hair!! ; )

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“Hope is the Thing with Feathers”

by Emily Dickinson

Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all,

And sweetest in the gale is heard;
And sore must be the storm
That could abash the little bird
That kept so many warm.

I ’ve heard it in the chillest land,
And on the strangest sea;
Yet, never, in extremity,
It asked a crumb of me.

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(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

I used to have a Hounddog Taylor recording.

your pics...

Hounddog Taylor

I don't hold out much hope for Clinton tho'!!

~~~Many people talk like Hillary has a lock on it. If she wins, it will be a much smoother imperialist operation. Recall the war on Serbia. Kiss single-payer healthcare goodby, too.

MM.. :)

It took my about a month to
Size World Peace right! :)

Charlie Murphy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkE_0ud2Id0

xoxo!

for my goofy blog.I hope you don't mind.
You have to scroll down towards the bottom of blog.
Tell me what ya think.Blog on Steroids??
marcmaronrules.blogspot.com :)

The look of power.
h/t Paddy.

Marx and Lennon ~ Love & Peace!!!

Kindness & Laughter & Music!!!

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MAKE LOVE ~ NOT WAR!!!

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

so, if I go to sleep right now, I'll be able to catch MTP at 1PM after some coffee. Whew. I can't wait for the show.

I don't like 'Horse Race' an analogy. I prefer 'Pro wrestling', in that even though they're all in competition they are still on the same team and 'in on it' together. It's theater (and a popularity contest), not a race.
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i'm not beyond shameless self-promotion. visit punditfight.com to see Sam battle it out with the rest of the pundits. left and right!

Nicky Rose submits:
Please!

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I listened!!

I believe that we were struck by the same thing!

Your Wish!!!

(Ya left me ~ Moonstruck!! ; )

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

How you doing?
Good I hope!

Sammy you have a NON-Existent IT Guy!!
Your wasting money on whomever is taking care of your site!

as part of the female-male composure-losing stigma at all; I don't think we should look at everything Clinton through the feminist prism. She's actually quite good at controlling her composure, generally, I think. That she would show some ruffled feathers here is indicative of how this lobbying issue is a sore point with her. She's very intelligent and I am sure she must know that being viewed as a lobbyst darling is not a good thing with progressives and she's sensitive about it - not surprising

music

And she stood her ground, even without wearing
the protective "black suit and tie".
If you don't crush her, you will be electing her.

- i watched the hillary video and don't really see where she loses it. that's not saying i'm a hillary fan (edwards w richardson or clark is my choice), just that sometimes we see things we want to see.

- cramer's meltdown. he can be emotional (manic depressive?) at times but i think he's close to the truth here. if you want to see change in things, let a trillion dollars disappear overnight with hedge fund failure. it all depends on whose ox is getting gored. what scares me the most is what happens to those retirement accounts and 401K's that us middle class folk have. i've always thought bush's wanting to get rid of social security was about two things:

- looting yet another government fund for his rich buddies
- getting rid of a safety net so that people had one more thing to fear (its part of that you're on your own in this mean old world and by god we're going to make it meaner philosophy of the neocons).

I posted an open mic yesterday with many of the TPM vids here.

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/987

Sometimes I think Sam mines the blog for stories to headline!

C-SPAN had Byron York on. Talk about an appologist for the right! The wingers are jumping up and down!

Will have Elizabeth Edwards on next. York was just talking about her on c-span. Of course what he said is not complimentary to Elizabeth.

I didn't see Clinton lose her composure. That is a false summary.

fine, then give me a time mark and what you see that indicates she did. i'm not defending her or promoting her, i think she's a bad choice, but lets not create something that might not exist.

What she did was try to turn it around by saying the grass roots will change things and where were the grass roots in the 90's when they needed them.

a Hillary fan.

I don't think she one that round, but, I don't think she lost her composure.

for voting for the FISA relaxation?--

Blanche Lincoln (AR), Mark Pryor (AR), Dianne Feinstein (CA), Ken Salazar (CO), Tom Carper (DE), Bill Nelson (FL), Daniel Inouye (HI), Evan Bayh (IN), Mary Landrieu (LA), Barbara Mikulski (MD), Amy Klobucher (MN), Claire McCaskill (MO), Ben Nelson (NE), Kent Conrad (ND), Bob Casey (PA), Jim Webb (VA)

Here’s the Sunday Talking Head schedule.

ABC’s “This Week” — Republican presidential candidates Sam Brownback, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo and Tommy Thompson debate.

CBS’”Face the Nation” — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill.

NBC’s “Meet the Press” — Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

CNN’s “Late Edition” — Gates; Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Afghan President Hamid Karzai; former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

“Fox News Sunday” — Rice.

C-Span’s Washington Journal: 7:45am - Byron York, National Review, White House Correspondent
8:30am - Davide Axe, Freelance Journalist
9:15am - Newspaper Articles & Viewer Phone Calls

Also today, there’s a great Blogger Talk Radio — Fini sent this along to me:

I wanted to give you a heads up on this week’s show I will have an interview with Gina Cooper, Executive Director of YearlyKos Convention as well as my guest bloggers for the panel will be our own Christina Siun and Barry Welsh, the DKos blogger and Democratic candidate for IN-06 House running against the reactionary GOP conservative darling Mike Pence. Welsh got 40% of the vote against Pence in last year’s election with only $50,000 raised and no TV ads. Welsh vs Pence 2.0 is gonna be a battle and is already getting attention from the party and DCCC for next year. The show airs live at 12 noon EDT from http://blogtalkradio.com/meetthebloggers as usual!

I’m just seriously peevish about the FISA abdication. So pardon me if I get another cuppa coffee and just sit here pissed off for a while. How’s your morning?

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/05/sunday-talking-head-thread-64/

Sheila Jackson Lee On FISA
By Jane Hamsher on Sat Aug 4, 2007 at 10:30 pm

She got me through the Clinton impeachment. I guess she’s gonna do it again.

Put Down The Shovel
By Jane Hamsher on Sat Aug 4, 2007 at 06:00 pm
I think people were split as to who won the debate, Obama or Edwards. Everyone pretty much agreed, however, that Hillary lost. Once Edwards opened up the challenge to her to refuse to take money from lobbyists, Hillary grabbed a shovel and just kept digging. After Edwards had her down Obama hit her, challenging her assertion that lobbyists had no undue influence on policy.

Dodd had a good moment when he called for public financing of elections. Also, during his blogger klatch he implicitly criticized the strategy of the Senate leadership for not forcing the Republicans to filibuster.

Edwards was funny and relaxed and had the crowd but I think Obama made a lot of people more comfortable about him with his willingness to challenge the existing power structure, especially the foreign policy establishment.

Matt Bai as a moderator detracted from the whole event with his penchant for inserting his ego in the debate as if he were hosting The Price is Right, something Anderson Cooper had the class and good sense not to do.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/04/put-down-the-shovel/

true, but the dems still haven't figured out how to answer the question of whether you still beat your wife...

until they take charge and put the whitehouse on the defensive, nothing is going to change. compound that with giving the whitehouse 30 days vacation to regroup and come back fighting even stronger.

What she did was try to turn it around by saying the grass roots will change things and where were the grass roots in the 90's when they needed them.

There should be some research on the grassroots around the healthcare issue in 1993. I do know that there was a huge grassroots effort to stop NAFTA a few years later, but it got blown off by Bill Clinton in favor of the big capitalists. I'll bet the healthcare people were similarly ignored. Anyway, if we rely on legislative actions alone, we will lose. There needs to be a militant rank and file component that won't be afraid of occuppying a few buildings and close down a few freeways in order to get their demands met.

There won't be any impeachments.

Why give Bush open-ended power to spy on people....if you're going to impeach him and Darth Cheney later in the year?

Plus we lost 60 Dems in the House....and with enough lock-step Repubs...and Nancy "Still Off The Table" Pelosi...that means no bills of impeachment out of the House.

Not that it would do any good, since you'd need ALL the Democrats, plus 18 Republicans (counting Joe the Schmoe as a "nay" vote) to oust the Wonder Twins of the Dark Side from office....and 16 of the Dems just said "How far would you like me to bend over, Mr. President?" on FISA.

i can't believe that huckabee is that lame. its fun watching the republicans have a circular firing squad (there's a rethuglican debate on george snuffalupogous)

I was there and it was uncomfortable. These guys/gal are so slick that even a sort pause is surprising. And she was caught off guard because she started off with a complete non-statement. "This is a position Joh Edwards has taken." Stalling for time to think of an answer. Than she pulled the netroots compiments out of her you know what and it felt very condescending.

BTW - see why she had to leave early.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/04/clintons-real-yearlykos-_n_5916...

has alot to do with it also.

I was not there. I just listened to a tinny YouTube so my opinion was from that.

said Hillary stood her ground just now on CNN.

said that the dkos debate shows the rift between Clinton and Obama.

Said Edwards is a non issue and only holding a lead in Iowa.

These journalists don't like Edwards!! He's too progressive for them! But I think there is a quiet net roots favor for him. My opinion.

Obama seems to be copying alot of what Edwards says and the journalists listen to him.

Today the pubs are debating. If you miss ABC's show, it will be on c-span this evening. If you choose to watch it.

Yearly Kos: Democratic candidates
see the light: the Internet

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Every U.S. presidential candidate has a Web site, of course, but when the top Democratic hopefuls were asked on Saturday whether they would appoint a White House blogger if elected, all of them said yes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070804/pl_nm/usa_politics_blogs_dc;_ylt=Aok...

Democrats cave to Bush on expanded spying

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"We're hugely disappointed with the Democrats,'' said Caroline Fredrickson, legislative director for the American Civil Liberties Union. `"The idea they let themselves be manipulated into accepting the White House proposal, certainly taking a great deal of it, when they're in control - it's mind-boggling.''

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,,-6827014,00.html

House approves
$460B Pentagon budget

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The House approved modest changes to President Bush's record Pentagon budget proposal early Sunday, but Democrats signaled plans to resume a more contentious debate over the Iraq war after the August recess.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070805/ap_on_go_co/defense_spending;_ylt=Ao...

Steve Clemons on Bush's 'High Fear World'
Here's a quick interview with my dear, dear friend Steve Clemons just after he was on a panel at Yearly Kos with Peter Beinart. Like a lot of our interviews it's a fun snapshot of the convention, but listen to Steve's point about the big issue facing the world today in the wake of Bush's calamitous presidency. This is an extremely good point. The dangers facing us in the world today are about a lot more than just Iraq ...

But we CALIFORNIANS had a "baby" win in not using Diebold and the like. So Let's Get The Party Started And Say Thank You -- however I need to find B.S. ;)
no time then there is 2d Life, this is WiccanDruid

Bridge Inspections -- it seems they have a lot in common with meat inspections. Over the past 20 years or so there are many technological innovations in inspecting bridges for flaws in steel, either exposed or embedded in concrete -- it uses a version of ultra-sound to map cracks and rust and all, store it in a computer data base, allowing comparisons from one inspection to the next. Neither State nor Federal inspection divisions have been required to buy and use this new technology, even though there is plenty of evidence that "just eyeballing it" actually catches only about 50% of the problems present. Apparently there have been a few efforts pushed, for instance by the Civil Engineer's Organization, to change the mode of inspection, and require the use of best technology, but such efforts have never gotten out of committee in Congress. Well maybe now is the time to push again. It is a matter of Hear no Evil, See no Evil, Smell no Evil. Meat Inspectors have the same problem -- do you sample fresh killed meat using bio analysis, or do you just continue to have the inspectors just look at the sides of beef? What good fancy new technology if we don't adopt it?

I think we are in luck with regard to finding out why the I-35W Bridge collapsed. Turns out that one of the new employees of the US Dept of Transportation is a guy who did his PhD here in Minnesota, and his Thesis project involved building a computer model of This Bridge, and demonstrating with great precision how it behaved as an ageing structure. They can use the video of the failure, plus evidence of the direction of displacement, and run it against the Thesis Model of the Bridge, and very quickly reproduce the dynamics of the failure. As of yesterday they were saying it would save the NTSB perhaps 9 months of study. What they seem to be telling us is that this "style" of Bridge has no real redundency in it -- if one critical member fails, the whole thing falls down. This was understood with the Silver Bridge Failure over the Ohio River a few years after the I-35W bridge was constructed, and design criteria were modified requiring more redundency -- but it was too late for this one, and about 700 others, mostly built for the Interstate System, around the country. Apparently they no longer build this style bridge.

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2007/08/minnesotas-mess...

Security Clearances
by emptywheel

I'm sitting here with Kagro X, wating for Glenn Greenwald to interview Anthony Romero. I suspect the FISA bill will be a topic of hot conversation.

Meanwhile, I wanted to point to the "clarification" given by the guy whom Congress wants to give complete power to decide whom to wiretap and whether those wiretap targets are in the US or not. I may come back to it later (though given my posting of late, maybe not). But here's an interesting detail about the hospital visit:

I also recall that, prior to the time I departed, General Ashcroft briefly mentioned a concern about security clearances for members of his staff regarding the NSA activities that were the subject of the presidential order.

I find this interesting for several reasons. First, it suggests that Ashcroft was complaining that his staffers weren't given security clearances to be read into this program. Recall that Bush refused to give some Office of Professional Responsibilities investigators security clearances, which meant they couldn't investigate the program. We also know that Cheney and Addington were working directly with John Yoo, bypassing Ashcroft, to pull off their shredding of the Constitution. But this detail suggests they were also shrouding their program by preventing top DOJ officials from getting security clearances.

I'm also struck that Gonzales felt like he needed to clarify this point. Is this something that Comey--or Ashcroft himself--already testified to the Senate about? And what precisely was the issue? Why was it so important that Ashcroft was talking about it from his ICU bed?

Finally, why didn't Gonzales mention it the first time. Was this something else he was trying to hide?

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2007/08/security-cleara...

ABC

Our very local paper, in it's letters to the editor section was answering a previous letter about Wiccans and the Wiccan religion.

I don't have it here, I left it at work so I can't quote from it, but I will bring it home tomorrow. I found it very interesting. And the author is a member of my progressive group.

I live in a very red county in Illinois that is slowly changing. We could not get a Dem or anyone to run against a Repub in my county for eons. There is now competitin for these local government seats.

won that debate hands down. Made Hilary look backward.

The comments about the color of money said a lot about the candidates.

Big discussion on pro life. Hypocrasy!

Let them be born, let them suffer from hunger and illnesses, let them fight our wars and die.

about pro life so far. Make the pubs look like they are a one issue party!

Thompson just said there are other issues.

Now we are moving to national security. McCain!

Radical Islamist Extremism!

In Bush We Trust - Or Else
Sunday, August 5th, 2007 by RLR
From The S.F. Chronicle
Editorial

It doesn’t require a subpoena of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales or a brave whistle-blower to find President Bush’s latest affront to the U.S. Constitution. It’s in plain view on the White House Web site: “Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq.”

This far-reaching order of July 17 may be Bush’s most brazen defiance of the Constitution, which is no small feat for an administration that thinks it can set its own rules on electronic surveillance, torture, kidnapping, rendition, and the designation of “enemy combatants” who can be arrested on U.S. soil and held indefinitely without judicial review.

This one is a frontal assault on the Fifth Amendment, which decrees that the government cannot seize an individual’s property without due process.

Under Bush’s executive order, the U.S. government has endowed itself with the authority to freeze the American assets of anyone who directly or indirectly assists someone who poses “a significant risk” of committing a violent act that has the purpose or effect of threatening the Iraqi government, the “peace and stability” of the country or the reconstruction effort.

The White House has claimed the order is targeted at people or groups that are helping the insurgents, particularly in Syria or Iran, but the language of the order is far broader than its stated intent.

The order’s liberal use of the word “or” and inclusion of the highly subjective term “significant risk” are particularly troubling in the hands of a White House that has suggested that domestic war critics are emboldening U.S. enemies in Iraq.

Read more Or Else

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/08/05/EDJFRB8AF1.DT...

♫♪♫♪Give PEACHES A Chance♫♪♫♪

is pushing Medicare Advantage programs. These insurance programs take over the medicare payments to doctors and hospitals. However, they are not paying the doctors or are cutting payments to doctors so many of the doctors are not accepting these Advantge insurance companies any more.

So the people with these Advantage insurances have to change doctors until they no longer accept them.

Just Say No

by digby

Deep, Heavy, Sigh:

The New York Times:

Since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Bush administration has repeatedly demonstrated that it does not feel bound by the law or the Constitution when it comes to the war on terror. It cannot even be trusted to properly use the enhanced powers it was legally granted after the attacks.

Yet, once again, President Bush has been trying to stampede Congress into a completely unnecessary expansion of his power to spy on Americans. And, hard as it is to believe, Congressional Republicans seem bent on collaborating, while Democrats (who can still be cowed by the White House’s with-us-or-against-us baiting) aren’t doing enough to stop it.

The LA Times:

As it shifts into overdrive before a summer recess, Congress is debating whether to oblige the Bush administration with changes in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a law that the administration ignored for five years as the National Security Agency -- without court approval -- monitored the international phone calls and e-mails of U.S. residents suspected of ties with foreign terrorists.

Our advice: Hurry up and wait.

ACLU:

Tell Congress: Don't Cave in to Fear

President Bush is creating a false sense of emergency in Washington, demanding that Congress rubberstamp a spying program it knows almost nothing about. Meanwhile, the White House refuses to comply with requests for basic information about warrantless wiretapping and Congress can’t get straight answers out of Attorney General Gonzales.

Unbelievably, President Bush says if Congress doesn’t pass his legislation this week, the Democrats will be responsible for any terrorist attacks that may happen in August ,even though he’s demonstrated no relationship between his proposals and a safer America.

The worst part is that Congress may actually be falling for Bush’s rhetoric.

Take Action: Tell Congress NOT to Cave In to Fear.

Obviously, I'm not the only one who can't for the life of me figure out why the congress is doing this.

I just heard that Bush is going to keep the congress in session until he gets a bill. They should tell him they'll stay until hell freezes over, but he still gets no bill. There is no good reason why this needs to happen like this, on the run, with the congress not even really knowing for what they are voting. This issue has been out there for years and Bush didn't feel the need to keep the congress in session until it got passed. To hell with him.

I have the niggling feeling that there has been some pretty heavy cocktail and bar-b-que chatter in the capital this summer with the elders warning everyone that something is afoot, but they can't talk about the details. Suddenly the villagers are all acting like nervous cats on a hot tin roof and dancing around like it's the hot summer of 2002 again for no discernable rason.

If that's so and little birdies are whispering in ears, the congress should stay in town and hash this thing out for real instead of signing off on something they haven't read. And if that's so, the president also needs to stay in town instead of rushing off to clear that poor brush again on his "ranchette" set in Waco and negotiate in good faith to protect the American people. The fact that nobody is doing this suggests to me that if there is some fear mongering going on, everyone involved knows it's typical Bushian nonsense but they are afraid to take a chance just in case he gets lucky and hits another trifecta.

No. More. Executive. Power. Period. It's their job to figure out how to track terrorists without trampling on the constitution. If that means staying in town for the month August in that sweltering heat, well, that's what they're paid for.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/just-say-no-by-digby-deep-heavy-s...

There were a number of Democrats who voted for President Bush and against the American people and our civil liberties. Here’s the final vote tally. It’s unlikely there’s anyone around in our representatives’ offices at this time, but you can find their contact information here.

Update: Nancy Pelosi has written a letter to John Conyers asking him to amend the FISA bill:

Speaker Pelosi said that S. 1927, the bill passed tonight by the House to temporally amend FISA for six-months, after H.R. 3356, the Improving Foreign Intelligence Surveillance to Defend Our Nation and Our Constitution Act bill failed last night, contains many provisions that are unacceptable and she does not believe that the American people will want to wait that long before corrective action is taken. In a letter to Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, Jr. and Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Silvestre Reyes, Speaker Pelosi requested that the Committees report to the House “as soon as possible after Congress reconvenes,” legislation to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Below is the text of the letter:

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=661

I know...too much to ask..

Yearly Kos
Submitted by Rick Perlstein on August 3, 2007 - 9:38am.
Come see me hold forth at the Yearly Kos conference in the panel "Framing From the Top" at 10:30 AM in Room 401 with George Lakoff. Here's what I'll be talking about:

Submitted by toniD on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 10:18am.
Our very local paper, in it's letters to the editor section was answering a previous letter about Wiccans and the Wiccan religion.

Wonderful...can I go into an ARCHIVE and retrieve article? ;)
and i signed in OMG :0

I'm not sure about the archives, I've never looked!

Let me search.

I haven't found the paper on line. Just info on how to order or advertise.

Hackers click locks open at conference in US
Published: Sunday August 5, 2007

Hackers gathered in Las Vegas on Saturday showed ways to crack electronic key-card systems and deadbolt locks used at security-sensitive places including the White House and the Pentagon.

"If you can't physically protect your computer, you are screwed," said Zac Franken, a hacker who engineered a way to outwit door locks relying on key cards.

"Most people think that computers inside buildings are secure. How many computers do you see left logged on at night?"

Franken's creation was among the real-world lock-cracking revelations made at the DefCon hackers conference, where a room is devoted to the "sport" of lock picking.

Medeco deadbolt locks relied on worldwide at embassies, banks and other tempting targets for thieves, spies or terrorists can be opened in seconds with a strip of metal and a thin screw driver, Marc Tobias of Security.org demonstrated for AFP.

"This is incredible; it's unreal," Tobias said while showing the ease with which the locks can breached.

"Medeco has one of the best designed locks in the world, but with this kind of attack it's all irrelevant."

US-based Medeco is owned by ASSA ABLOY Group, a Swedish conglomerate that describes itself as the world's leading manufacturer and supplier of locks. Medeco officials could not be reached for comment Saturday.

"This is not the only company," Tobias said. "There are lot of them; lots of deadbolts with similar weakness."

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Hackers_click_locks_open_at_confere_0805200...

Wiccan
Submitted by toniD on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 12:09pm.
I haven't found the paper on line.
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Search under The Pagan Science Monitor.

How's the weather there. We've had storms all night and early this AM and now it's sunny. Supposed to storm again later.

Examiner. The paper isn't on line. It's too small and if they went on line, no one would subscribe.

It is delivered every Wednesday to the PD so people can pick it up there and at the Library.

It's approx. 20 pages. About 3 of those list the crimes and arrests in the area .

keiran
According to this website, you and I are the only two online. Good morning to you! (visualize clicking coffee mugs together--mine is the old morning sedition logo mug)

Salute!

Coffee in the AM with a friend. Nothing better!

I never got a majority report cup. Maybe we can get a Seder on Sundays mug.

All is cool ... probably will appear anyway in one of my Wiccan Journals, however, not that important to my nor your life :D (Led Balloon Humour)thus no worries, really ;)

toniD,
Weather has been hot, still and humid. The "cold" front, with its storms, fizzled north of here.

-----

Here is a fun article about a Dateline undercover reporter who was outed by a hackers' conference (Defcon) days before the conference commenced. They posted her picture, advising their security personnel to watch for her. I have read several different articles. They all have different (additional, not contradictory) information and some of them include a video of the running reporter.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=653

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/Technology/Exposed-undercover-reporter-flees-...

--Good Morning Keiran
Submitted by toniD on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 1:16pm.
Salute!
Coffee in the AM with a friend. Nothing better!--

I met my birth mom at 630 this morning for breakfast..now we're drinking wine out in my garden...

...then end must be near.. ;)... what a glorious Sunday...

BBL... xox

Hilarious O'Reilly video
by Pam Spaulding · 8/05/2007 12:07:00 PM ET

Mike Stark of Calling All Wingnuts gives Billo hell for his bluster over YKos. Nothing feels better than seeing "O'Reilly is a pervert" signs on the bully's lawn...

Left wing mafia...smear web sites...assassins...radical left...

O'Reilly hurling these terms about a progressive bloggercon is absurd. He's jumped the shark big time.

http://www.americablog.com/2007/08/hilarious-oreilly-video.html

they made it sound like a "tit for tat" thing between she and Obama...like after he "looked weak" then he said the Pakistan thing..and she made a distinction between experience and non experience with her visiting "terror states" in her first year thing and the press wrote it in her favor..they didn't make it sound at all like she "went bonkos"...

I still haven't seen the vid..

Also..they did point out that anti war dems are not happy with how none of the candidates want to look "weak on terror"..

(God I hate writing the word terror..it's such a lie).. ok now bbl..

I wonder if Americablog knows that.

toniD thanks for the link
link to link here

Archive for the 'Draining the Swamp' Category
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?cat=6

and dan and others thanks for Your words..

[server overload? home page won't load]

Tension Inside AEI: A Neocon Heart vs. Corporate Head

Jim Lobe brilliantly chronicles a key point of tension between various AEI stakeholders -- on one hand a group of firms who help fund the place and are mostly focused on government deregulation and on the other, those who have helped shape and drive a neoconservative War in Iraq and national security strategy.

Lobe writes:

Today's quotation in the Financial Times attributed to Danielle Pletka, the Vice President for Foreign and Defense Policy Studies of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), was a stunner. "If we. . .begin to sanction foreign companies through more stringent sanctions in the Iran Sanctions Act, I think there will be serious repercussions for our multilateral effort."
Whatever would possess AEI and Pletka, who personally has been one of the most prominent and enthusiastic cheerleaders of the rapidly spreading state divestment movement against companies doing business in Iran, to offer a cautionary note about adopting unilateral sanctions, let alone stress the importance of preserving multilateral unity with limp-wristed European allies in dealing with a charter member of the "Axis of Evil"? Judging from its provenance at what must be considered Neo-Con Central, it certainly couldn't be common sense.

In fact, Pletka's observation probably reflects growing tensions between AEI's corporate contributors, many of whom are represented on its board of trustees, on the one hand, and, on the other, the hard-line neo-conservative views of its foreign-policy fellows, such as Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen, Michael Rubin, Joshua Muravchik, and Pletka herself; academic advisers, such as Gertrude Himmelfarb, Eliot Cohen, and Jeremy Rabkin; and its board chairman, Bruce Kovner.

Lobe's article should be read in full. My only view is that it should not be only those worried about multinational corporate welfare who are worried about the neoconservative agenda. We all should be trying to create substantial costs for those who led us into the Iraq War and who decimated the condition of America's national security portfolio.

Buf it multinationals are going to be tough on those raising concerns about human rights in China, or global warming, or product safety standards -- then they might as well be tough on the neocon crowd too.

-- Steve Clemons

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002262.php

by Nancy Scola
Seder on Sundays Does Yearly Kos
By Nancy Scola on August 5, 2007 - 2:12pm
We're back from Yearly Kos, a bit exhausted but having had quite an amazing time. Sam Seder's show, starting in about two hours, will feature interviews with about a dozen bloggers and activists recorded while we were out in Chicago. On the show will likely be progressive bloggers like Chris Bowers of Open Left, Cliff Schecter of the new Brave New Films blog, Jill Filipovic of Feministe, Ezra Klein of the American Prospect, Hale Stewart of the Bonddad Blog, and more.

Sam interviewed even more bloggers and activists than can fit into one three hour show, and we'll be posting all the interviews here on the website this week. Look forward to that, and tune in to hear Sam's interviews live (via tape) at 4pm EST today. Listen on your local affiliate, or via the web stream above.

http://www.airamerica.com/node/4742

on point, NickyRose!

keiran
how about a sam seder show 3 hour a day, 5 day a week show mug, featuring his handsome face and his manly calves. mmmmmmmmmm good!
Have a great show Sam! Happy Sunday all! I'm off to potty training land where you must be enthusiastic! :) about well...I won't go into it. Sam will be there soon.

Chicago - The Whole World's Watching
Prologue [audio link - 30sec]

Yep, I would never vote for her.

"hear Sam's interviews live (via tape)"
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How many different ways can a listener hear an interview? Live. Taped from a live performance. Taped from a...taped performance?

Does Sam know a super secret way to interview non-live?

I don't get it.

keiran: "...I'm off to potty training land where you must be enthusiastic! :) about well...I won't go into it..."
----------------
(Note to self: Never touch keiran's keyboard.)

It bothers me, too. I just don't understand it unless theywant the same power too.

Aug. 13, 2007 issue - The controversy over President Bush's warrantless surveillance program took another surprise turn last week when a team of FBI agents, armed with a classified search warrant, raided the suburban Washington home of a former Justice Department lawyer. The lawyer, Thomas M. Tamm, previously worked in Justice's Office of Intelligence Policy and Review (OIPR)—the supersecret unit that oversees surveillance of terrorist and espionage targets. The agents seized Tamm's desktop computer, two of his children's laptops and a cache of personal files. Tamm and his lawyer, Paul Kemp, declined any comment. So did the FBI. But two legal sources who asked not to be identified talking about an ongoing case told NEWSWEEK the raid was related to a Justice criminal probe into who leaked details of the warrantless eavesdropping program to the news media. The raid appears to be the first significant development in the probe since The New York Times reported in December 2005 that Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on the international phone calls and e-mails of U.S. residents without court warrants. (At the time, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said of the leak: "This is really hurting national security; this has really hurt our country.")

A veteran federal prosecutor who left DOJ last year, Tamm worked at OIPR during a critical period in 2004 when senior Justice officials first strongly objected to the surveillance program. Those protests led to a crisis that March when, according to recent Senate testimony, then A.G. John Ashcroft, FBI Director Robert Mueller and others threatened to resign, prompting Bush to scale the program back. Tamm, said one of the legal sources, had shared concerns about he program's legality, but it was unclear whether he actively participated in the internal DOJ protest.

The FBI raid on Tamm's home comes when Gonzales himself is facing criticism for allegedly misleading Congress by denying there had been "serious disagreement" within Justice about the surveillance program. The A.G. last week apologized for "creating confusion," but Senate Judiciary Committee chair Sen. Patrick Leahy said he is weighing asking Justice's inspector general to review Gonzales's testimony.

The raid also came while the White House and Congress were battling over expanding NSA wiretapping authority in order to plug purported "surveillance gaps." James X. Dempsey of the Center for Democracy and Technology said the raid was "amazing" and shows the administration's misplaced priorities: using FBI agents to track down leakers instead of processing intel warrants to close the gaps. A Justice spokesman declined to comment.

-Michael Isikoff

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20121795/site/newsweek/

Fox's Bill Kristol takes 'benign view' of bridge collapse RAW STORY
Published: Sunday August 5, 2007

Fox News political contributor Bill Kristol, appearing on the August 5 broadcast of Fox News Sunday, made comments minimizing the significance of a bridge collapse in Minnesota last week. At least five people were killed and 100 injured when the bridge collapsed Wednesday.

"I don't think this symbolizes any great failure of our infrastructure," said Kristol. "Once every twenty five years some bridge falls down unexpectedly due to engineering problems and it is unfortunate obviously but the idea that the whole country is crumbling is not, I think, credible."

The video can be watched below.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bill_Kristol_takes_optimistic_view_of_0805...

how about IM-peaches???

A wanted American member of Al-Qaeda warned in a new video on Sunday that US diplomatic missions and other interests were "legitimate targets," vowing that the network would attack these "spy dens."

In the footage compiled by Al-Qaeda's production arm Al-Sahab, an unnamed narrator singled out US missions in oil-rich Gulf Arab states as potential targets.

"We shall continue to target you at home and abroad just as you target us at home and abroad," Adam Gadahn, an American convert to Islam who has been indicted for treason in the United States, said in the video.

The video was posted on LauraMansfield.com, an American website which monitors terrorist groups.

"These spy dens and military command and control centres from which you plotted your aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq, and which still provide vital moral, military, material, and logistical support to the Crusade, shall continue to be legitimate targets for brave Muslims... unless you heed our demands," Gadahn said.

"Stop the Crusade and leave the Muslims alone," he added.

In a message to the Americans and their "Crusader allies," Gadahn said: "The amount of respect we have for your international law is even less than the respect you hold for defined sharia (Islamic law), and our observance of it is comparable to your observance of sharia."

"How can we comply with a law which contradicts divine law in whole and in part?" Gadahn asked.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Qaeda_video_vows_attacks_on_US_miss_0805200...

Comes to mind on the Fisa Vote.

Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet.

Good old Shakespeare has quptes fitting for many of the things happening tody.

is Bush in a pantsuit.

lets see now:

- war in iraq: resounding success
- global warming: myth
- hurricane katrina: that's working out pretty good for these people
- bridge collapse: Once every twenty five years...

agreed toni d. Love that Shakespeare!!

Submitted by toniD on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:00pm.
Fox's Bill Kristol takes 'benign view' of bridge collapse RAW STORY
Published: Sunday August 5, 2007
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Does anyone bother to listen to this clown anymore? He has been wrong on every important issue for as long as I can remember. He has admitted that he was wrong in some of the cases.

His comments on U.S. infrastructure are absurd. He may as well argue that the Baby Boomer retirement glut is nothing to worry about because it hasn't happened in more than sixty-five years.

It is worth noting that the last two "terrorist" scares on U.S. soil were an ancient, broken steam pipe and a fallen bridge nearly a half century old.

But good ol' Bill is one of the geniuses who supports pumping four billion dollars per week into Iraq.

you know Minn. Governor Pawlenty just vetoed two tax bills - government bad, right? That money would have gone - guess where??? Transportation and infrastructure. No one dares talk about this country's failing infrastructure and power grid. The neocons just say this proves the failure of government (because they are not letting government work as it should). How many more ?

If Mrs. Clinton gets the nomination...gazillions of us libs will

refuse to vote for her...giving the next election to the fascists

by default? If that's the way it's going to be, I'm tuning out now.

There isn't jackshit that I can do about any of it. Might as well

go back into the 60's party mode and have some goddamn fun!

I just can't stand to see Kristol anymore. The look on his face this morning was just too much.

Hillary
Submitted by nightbird on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:09pm.
is Bush in a pantsuit.
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Your slogan is hollow and trite. If it is not sloganeering, the statement is wrong and impossible to defend.

Give it a try. I'll watch while your attempt is ripped to shreds. Most people don't equate Cheney with Bush. If Cheney is unlike Bush, Hillary is very unlike Bush.

First off, I should say Hillary's not my first choice. I like Edwards and Obama better.

But I've looked at this video and I don't really see her flipping out or anything. She says something you don't agree with but at the same time there's sense in what she's saying.

There are lobbyists for big oil and all kinds of big business BUT...

There are also lobbyists for nurses and teachers and firemen and cops and lots and lots of things that are, ON BALANCE, a positive thing for society.

I think we get blinded by words. We hear "lobbyist" and our minds immediatly go to the most evil ones. And we forget there are lobbying groups out there working for other things besides big industry and the fascist corporatist hegemony.

If she's losing her composure in the video I sure don't see it. She's a little feisty. What do we want? We want her to go bake cookies? If she's in this thing to win she'd damn well better get feisty and "lose her cool". It's sure better than her sitting there pretending she agrees with everything.

I think this is worse than the 60's. I really do! And I thought I'd never see anything like that again! My bad!

The thing about the 60's is we had more people on the streets. At least it seemed that way. People today are to complacent. Or maybe beaten down, I don't know.

Bill Kristol lives in his own little neocon bubble-a typical chickenhawk. The war is just a game for him and as far as falling bridges go-oh well. Why worry his beautiful mind about such things......

I've come to believe that a big part of the neocon agenda is to rid the world of undesirables - which includes people who disagree with them. I think they want the world for themselves, like Cartman in the bumper car ride - all by himself because he's bought the entire amusement park. They are waging war on you and me and really can't care less if we die off for having no health care or die off in the war(s). It's not just a game for them. It's strategy.

i think it's pretty obviously the neocon strategy.

Always amazes me that so much beauty

and so much crap coexists in our lives...

Will we have the Sammy Cam today?

unlikely.

the hotel hookup is lacking.

good question...

nothing on the bloggie front page yet

this is not a live show

*

been outside all morning

talking to my rose bushes!

grrh.

He ain't live:{

try http://www.wcpt850.com/ There's a windows media player link under "listen live"

What happened, last night's wind-down party had no survivors?
...and I missed it...

One election at a time...

Wow,that sure does'nt sound like sams voice

Although there were many years there you could have convinced me

otherwise!

Have any of Y'all seen it? Too Bad about that North American Union thang. I guess the Constitution is soooo quaint. Leigh Ann

zzzzzz

why does sam's voice sound completly different than it ever has before

http://winmedia.voxcdn.net/aar

http://winmedia.voxcdn.net/aar can be used with open url in windows media player to get the audio. don't know if there's a corresponding video for the pre-recorded interviews.

"anybody got a windows media player link for sammy?"

Liberal Talk Radio has a superb collection of links

(left side panel)

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/

using electrons from Illinois, They sound different than the electrons he pushes around NY. LA

no sammy cam because
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 4:07pm.
this is not a live show
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The interviews are 'taped live' which is a little like 'live on tape' but nothing like merely 'taped'.

*

It'd be funny if Sam was carrying around a little sound effects box while he's interviewing all these bloggers.

From Defense Secretary Robert Gates' interview on "Meet the Press" this morning:

Russert: You mentioned that we misunderestimated [sic] some of the divisions between the factions in the [Iraqi] government, the Shiites and the Sunnis. Mr. Secretary, for Americans watching today, many are saying to themselves, "The administration was wrong about weapons of mass destruction, wrong about the size of the force necessary to occupy Iraq, wrong about the costs of the war, wrong about Shiite and Sunni division. Why should we have any confidence in what they say about the future of Iraq?"

Gates: Well, what I think we should have confidence in is the evaluation that Ambassador Crocker and Gen. Petraeus are going to make in early September. These men have been on the ground for quite some time now; they are best of our professionals; they will look at this.

First, that's not exactly a ringing endorsement of the Bush administration.

Second, this notion of putting the onus on Petraeus is misguided. As Wesley Clark explained at YearlyKos on Friday, Petraeus is executing the president's Iraq policy, not the other way around. "Mr. President we're not questioning the generals, we're questioning you," Clark said. "Stop hiding behind Dave Petraeus and come out and defend your strategy. It's your strategy. You defend it."

And third, "misunderestimated"? Has the president really had this kind of impact on our discourse?

--Steve Benen

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/016218.php

oh joy, we're gonna talk about BLOGS all day!
Submitted by mystic23 on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 4:11pm.
zzzzzz

»
reply

lmao

-M the a-c

good interviews sam.

how bout a new thread?

Zeitgeistmovie.com
new
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 4:11pm.
Have any of Y'all seen it?

Yes! Yea Verily.
Aw thunk ya ar' fun'n me. ;)

I was out getting my hot, buttered popcorn. What did I miss?
Janice Brown

Did it frighten you as much as it did me? Leigh Ann

I guess when Sam is all talked out and not operating from his little deejay booth, he sounds more like Thom Hartmann.

another voice in favor of zeitgiest!

Cui Bono?

another voice in favor of zeitgiest!

Cui Bono?

[paraphrase from Sammer's 1st interview -- the guys from America Blog]

'...many bloggers aren't media professionals...many, though, are professionals in their areas of expertise...'

Exactly! That's what scares the bejesus out of the MSM.

Just precisely what are, say, Timmeh, Cokie, the WaPo's editorial board, Falafel Man, et al "experts" at?

Hmmmmm? Taking instructions from their corporate masters?

*

Jealous as hell of those who could attend YKos.

Cui Bono?

I love Sam but this is fairly lame.I hope next week he comes back with piss and vinegar and has Sen Harris on LIVE.

I,m going to watch tiger Woods win another tourney

se yall next week

Ever since I put out the big bucks for a D-Link wireless router. This is a dis-endorsement of D-Link wireless routers. They will make your stream poopy and only fish, frogs and crawdads should poop in a stream.

Cui Bono?

I'm kind of over the blogosphere. There's a few I look at every morning but it's not the huge thing anymore. Some of them out there are actively working for specific candidates and getting paid for it. That kind of takes the "grass roots" out of it.

Sammy sounds different but no mistaking Joe Conason's voice

AAR WinMediaplayer Stream

HIGH RES zeitgeistmovie.com/dloads.htm

Segmented x3 video.google.com/ ... "ZEITGEIST,The Movie - Official Release" part 1,2,3

Single Stream video.google.com/ ... "ZEITGEIST,The Movie - Official Release"

bravenewfilms.org/blog

For a horse of a different color check out outtheretv.com
outtheretv.com/ #266

You didn't know Osama was trained by the CIA before seeing Zeitgueist? Hell, I read it in Penthouse back in the late 80's how the CIA was training these people and that many experts were expecting blowback.

but what bothered me the most is the North American Union thing. LA

Hillary
Submitted by nightbird on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:09pm.
is Bush in a pantsuit.

*

I'm no overt supporter of Her Highness, but that's...

[I gonna finish reading the rest of the thread before I "...".]

I just don't think there'll be some new nation comprised of Canada, Mexico and the good ol' USA.

Logistically, it just doesn't make sense. I can't get worked up about it.

And I'm a guy who thinks the neocons killed John Lennon and Paul Wellstone.

"I just don't think there'll be some new nation comprised of Canada, Mexico and the good ol' USA."

actually they've made serious progress in exactly that direction.

want details?

Insupportable
Submitted by Crank Bait on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:41pm.
Hillary
Submitted by nightbird on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:09pm.
is Bush in a pantsuit.
----------------------------------
Your slogan is hollow and trite. If it is not sloganeering, the statement is wrong and impossible to defend.

Give it a try. I'll watch while your attempt is ripped to shreds. Most people don't equate Cheney with Bush. If Cheney is unlike Bush, Hillary is very unlike Bush.

*

Nuff said...and I'll "watch," too.

I have not heard him recently because my listening habits changed but this guy http://www.lennonmurdertruth.com/ used to bedevil talk show hosts, esp. in the Bay Area, figuring a way to fool screeners and get on the air to talk about something else and then slip into his 'message'.

Ya Conason sounds like himself but Sam sounds like he hasn't gone through puberty yet,theres no bass to his voice.i think he sounded like this when he was 12

weird audio

Please try to remember to close your html!!!!!

If you use the shoutcast stream and a player with an adjustable buffer, the poop goes away.

player quinnware.com

shoutcast stream AAR/live:8000

WinMedia Stream AAR WinMediaplayer Stream

ya conason sounds like himself but sam sounds like a 12 year old who hasn't gone through puberty yet

weird audio

Cui Bono?

Sending big HELLO to all Sundanistas waiting for SEDER on SUNDAY!!!!

I missed my flight, and am sitting here in Minneapolis in the NWA president's lounge or whatever they call it - waiting for my new flight just scheduled for me to get me to San Fran where I should be arriving about now instead of much later tonight.

This actual real life vacation thing is throwing me for a loop and I don't seem to know what to do with myself - have never missed a flight "just because" in my life!!!! And am even a bit behind on the news beleive it or not.

Anyway, just wanted to take the now quiet time I have to pop in and say hello to everyone and wish you all a fabulous time enjoying Yearly Kos and this special Sundanista Yearly Kos show. - We will be boarding when the show starts.

Have a great time and be well everyone!!!!

Sending hugs and my famous blueberry iced tea to all who wish them - yes I do travel with my blueberry iced tea as well as my proper hot tea blend and organic sugar.

Enjoy!!!

Nefferkitti

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Cui Bono?

Use "the google" for North American Union..... or North American Superhighway.
This is something the conservatives are freaking about also. Mostly from their anti-immigration point of view. But if no one talks about this Bush can, and will turn the U.S. into part of his Global Empire Machine. Cui Bono? A very very very few. Leigh Ann

Boring
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 4:27pm.
I love Sam but this is fairly lame.I hope next week he comes back with piss and vinegar and has Sen Harris on LIVE.

I,m going to watch tiger Woods win another tourney

*

Golf? Fucking golf? You state that Sam interviewing the cream of the leftwing blogosphere is "boring"...

...and then state you would prefer to watch GOLF...on TV...listening to THOSE commentators?

Irony is not dead.

Two arrested with Arab sounding names. The explosive were set off by the FBI. They found devices to make bombs also. No photos of the men. Said they came from Florida.

More when I find the story.

enjoy the glaciers while you can

No one sounds like they have bass in their voice when they talk alongside Connason!

That guy needs his own woofer!

sam's been on for an hour with canned Kos Con interviews.

the weird audio is due to sams hotel room and his recording mike.

Were you implying I was changing the subject because I don't want to talk about conspiracies? Is this the Art Bell newsboard? lol.

This guy ia a true believing capitalist. "Follow your greedy bliss."

effin golfists!!!

i live for the irony...

With Sam's show "in the can" as they say, I thought I'd come by and just say hello to the board. When the show is live it's a bit hectic to also add my comments to your thread. I just wanted to let you know that I find your comments informative and insightful. Keep up the good work in getting the message out.

Chad in Contol (Room)

Thanks for your compliment!

Can you give us a new thread?

Bickering amongst ourselves we are... LA ;)

we've always wanted the crew to chat with us so drop in and join us, goes for the rest of the crew too.

you got blog admin permission?

how bout new thread?

Why does Sam's voice sound funny?

US al-Qaida member threatens embassies By PAUL SCHEMM, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 56 minutes ago

An American member of al-Qaida threatened foreign diplomats and embassies across the Islamic world in a new video Sunday, saying they would targeted as "spy dens."

The 1 hour, 17 minute video also featured a computer-animated recreation of a March 2006 suicide attack that killed U.S. diplomat David Foy in Karachi, Pakistan, and testimony from a man who claimed to be the bomber.

"We shall continue to target you, at home and abroad, just as you target us, at home and abroad, and these spy dens and military command and control centers from which you plotted your aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq," said Adam Gadahn, a Californian also known as Azzan al-Amriki.

Gadahn was charged with treason in the United States last fall and has been wanted since 2004 by the FBI, which is offering a $1 million reward for information leading to his arrest or conviction. He last appeared in a video in May, threatening the United States with an attack worse than those of Sept. 11, 2001.

The authenticity of the video, which was first carried on the Web site of terrorism expert Laura Mansfield, could not be independently confirmed but it featured the logo of al-Qaida's media production house, as-Sahab.

The U.S.-based SITE Intelligence Group also said it had obtained a copy of the video. Militant Web forums have been announcing the imminent arrival of a new video featuring Gadahn for days.

In the video, which had Arabic subtitles, Gadahn wore a traditional Arab red-and-white checkered scarf and spoke in English. It was not known when the footage was filmed because he did not describe any specific events.

"Years of bitter trial and experience have revealed the danger (embassies) pose and shown that the only way to deal with them when they refuse to leave of their own accord is to expel them by force," Gadahn said.

Al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman Zawahri, also appeared in the terror group's latest video, outlining what he described as the crimes of Western countries against the Islamic world. As he spoke, the video showed images of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as mosques being destroyed.

The March 2006 attack that killed Foy, which was claimed by al-Qaida, also killed three Pakistanis and wounded about 50 others a day before President Bush made an official visit to Pakistan.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070805/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_qaida_american_vid...

"informative and insightful". what about entertaining? we're here to entertain you, ya know?

the weird audio is due to sams hotel room and his recording mike.

Chad here again. Sorry to tell you, but I don't have the ability to start a new thread. Heck, I'm still posting as Anonymous for crying out loud :D.

And for the record, Golf over Sam? C'mon, really. Mute the golf, listen to Sam. Besides, Tiger Woods owns this tournament (yes, I follow golf)

The thing about the 60's is we had more people on the streets. At least it seemed that way. People today are to complacent. Or maybe beaten down, I don't know.

No. The peace and justice movement has fallen into line behind the democratic party, and not remain independent, and do there organizing. Wasn't always this way--since the 1960s. Was anyone here involved in the Central American Solidarity movement: Nicaraguan Peace Brigades, CISPES, and so forth. Lots of work done, much solidarity work. This fed into the anti-Gulf War movement which was having huge demonstrations before the war even started. First time in history this has happened. The same sort of phenomenon was happening in 2002, with perhaps even better organizing and more people in the streets. The movement died when many of the leaders pressed for the movement to work with the Democrats. Bush is an evil demon, remember. So put everything aside and go register voters. Return to our indepent roots. If we continue being subordinate to the Democrats, then we will be constantly disappointed.

Be back asap. Love yewzall LA

there was a draft.

Sunshine Jim said it best... Sam is using different equipment on the raod which produces a different sound.

bibimimi submits:

♫♪♫♪ All We Are Saying♫♪♫♪

♫♪♫♪Give PEACHES A Chance♫♪♫♪

~~~~~

♫♪♫♪Give PEACHES A Chance♫♪♫♪

**
"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

Sorry Ive been remiss; it's because I'm still editing the second half of the show.  hello!  Let's see if I make the deadline.  If I don't, Chad will have to turn on his mic and kill some time :)

also it's pretty obvious to me he's been talking a hell of a lot this weekend so he's a little ragged. but that's ok. it's not bothering me.

i think i'd have rather heard a new live show from the studios, instead of the convention. but that's just me. i'm probably not the majority on this.

Ron Paul is unlike Bush, Kucinich is unlike Bush. Hillary? Much more like Bush.

Submitted by Peter Dragon on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:34pm.

"If Mrs. Clinton gets the nomination...gazillions of us libs will

refuse to vote for her...giving the next election to the fascists

by default? If that's the way it's going to be, I'm tuning out now.

There isn't jackshit that I can do about any of it. Might as well

go back into the 60's party mode and have some goddamn fun!"

That's what I'm afraid of.

We might not like Hillary but, come on. She's not Joe Lieberman. I'll vote for her if she gets the nomination.

(Unless she picks Lieberman as a running mate!)

Still here in Chicago...and I expect that Sam is in transit. He did a fantastic job here of MCing and it was so great to have him here....it was almost like Air America is still alive and kicking, though I think that Green should have supported much more participation here;
Besides that Cenk was hanging round...but it didn't seem like he was in any official capacity.
Anyway, people are either gone or leaving the hotel/convention and I booked an extra night to rest, thank god...so am here trying to get a blog post up...
There are a couple there, but my presidential forum-closing keynote one with pictures is still not up...it will take around an hour...
What an absolutely great time this was...definitely am coming next year!!

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

Show thread 2
Submitted by Lauren on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 5:24pm.

Hope you like the show today. YK was a blast and I think we got some great material.

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/992

Among other things, we have taken over the media and created a mercenary army. You are free to enjoy entertainment, incur insurmountable debt, or simply chill. Don't be overly concerned about things which are too complex for you to comprehend. Thank you for your cooperation!

Thanks for showing us SAMMY love in SAM's absence. Surrogate SAMMY is better than no SAMMY at all and I'm sure I speak for all. YOU ROCK!
Janice Brown

new thread is up
new
Submitted by Lauren on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 5:26pm.
Sorry Ive been remiss; it's because I'm still editing the second half of the show. hello!

eya LaL!

Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 5:11pm.
effin golfists!!!

i live for the irony...

*

"Golfists." *snicker*

Say hi to bgurl for me, too.

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"hello from Chad in the AAR Control Room"

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Danke for the collective compliment.

You wouldn't by any chance have Green's cell number, would ya? *snark*

Yes i think watching the crowds cheer tiger on to yet another trouncing of his fellow golfers is more interesting than listening to these interviews.

I've watched and listened to EVERY Sammy show since the begining and without the sammy cam and his wrap up of the weekly irony that is the bush admin this is just not that appealing to me.

I'm going to go out and enjoy the great summer weather.Perhaps today would be a good day for all of us to do so.

P.S.just because i like tiger woods doesn't make me a republican

Really. Obama has set a record by raising a third of his money from the net. Great. And where did the rest come from? Saying, "no lobbyist money" is just stupid until we get public financing. I want to beat party B. I go to supporters of party A, the party of the People, and raise half the money that Party B has, because, well, they have the money. So I go to the web, and raise serious dollars from the grassroots. Yippee. Now, I've got 2/3 of the money. Do they give away TV ad time? No, they don't.

The other thing is, Hill is right. Okay, don't take money from Amalgamated Pill Dispensers, and Big Medical Insurance, but the unions have lobbyists. Lots of small businesses have lobbyists. This is a stunt.

Another thing is, Hillary got cheered much more than she was booed. But the headline is "She got booed." Where here and the mainstream. You guys ought to worry who you're triangulatin' with.

People should not be afraid of their governments...Governments should be afraid of their people.

The people of france know this to be true and they protest every bad decision their gov. makes and they get results.we need to get out into the streets before it's illegal to do so.

The end of ALL our freedoms is near.Do something

Fox's Bill Kristol takes
Submitted by toniD on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 3:00pm.
Fox's Bill Kristol takes 'benign view' of bridge collapse RAW STORY
Published: Sunday August 5, 2007

Fox News political contributor Bill Kristol: "I don't think this symbolizes any great failure of our infrastructure. Once every twenty five years some bridge falls down unexpectedly due to engineering problems and it is unfortunate obviously but the idea that the whole country is crumbling is not, I think, credible."

Given Kristol's record on the command of the facts on so many issues is severely lacking, he is not credible source for assuring anyone that the infrastructure is not "crumbling." Since there is an abundancy of deficient or obsolete bridges in District of Columbia-Maryland-Virginia, Kristol may be trying to console himself.

Check for the bridges in your area at -

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20093413/

Thomas Jefferson advising his daughter Martha in 1787....

"Determine never to be idle. No person will have occasion to complain of the want of time who never loses any. It is wonderful how much can be done if we are always doing. (Just like I'll be doing black Sally...out behind the barn in about thiry minutes.")

Have a great rest of the evening folks...catch you all next sunday if not before!

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

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