There must be something in the water

:)

will that change or is it permanent?

*

BTW...Great posts last night, dada....

We're getting slammed by spambots and are trying different approaches to protect the site....

SEDER...not on my computer

(the o.g. is on his way to his room in the gaza strip)

a.o.: "go and feel sorry for yourself"

o.g.: "go and get fucked, arsehole"

he returned home with his jacket off

(i had recently gotten out of bed)

"whoa! what are you doing with your jacket off... it's freezing out there"

he had a pen in his hand (a weapon) because he expected an altercation with some bikers

(lol)

then he came out again...

a.o.: "oi, i thought i had the rest of the night to myself"

o.g.: "i come to stab you in the ear"

nah, he told me something else... but that's a secret

Have a good one...

Please!

Check out last thread Sam..

Ever heard of "Norman"...?

http://www.myspace.com/norman_kanemiller

Looks fixed now. Learned a lot.

Thanks, Sam, for everything. Hope this place flourishes again.

Schools Must Ignore Race in Placing Pupils, Justices Say

The 5-4 decision in cases affecting schools in Louisville, Ky., and Seattle leaves public school systems with limited options for pursuing racially diverse student bodies.

Washington, D.C. - Vice President Cheney today dismissed critics complaining he has subverted the law, claiming that only humans have to obey the law and he is not human. According to the Vice President, as he often goes into his garage, he is also an automobile, and therefore exempt from any legal codes and statutes.

When interviewed recently on television by Tim Russert, Mr. Cheney said, "What goes into a garage? A car, correct?" Mr. Russert agreed that, "Yes, a car goes into a garage."
"Well," continued the Vice President, "I go into the garage all the time. That makes me a car. If I'm a car, that means, obviously, that I'm not just human, I'm also part car. You see, Tim, the law applies only to humans. It doesn't apply to me."
The White House and the Vice President's office refused to disclose Mr. Cheney's make and model as this is classified information. However, one White House insider commented, "I will tell you one thing, he's sure as hell not fuel efficient."
Written for Assimilated Press by roving reporter pink.

Previous DQ: On what date did post-democratic America begin?
Answer (thanks to Homeland Security): All of the answers were good. However, the definitive date for the beginning of post-democratic America had to be December 12, 2000 when the Supreme Court overturned the will of the people and constitutional government in the Bush versus Gore decision.
Link

That last thread really shined some light on a few of the personalities here. How embarrassing to be exposed that way. It's good to know who the little schemers are. I hope Bridge knows we don't all fell that way.

Yes, please let us know who you are so that we can target you for the next personal attack!!!!

C-Ya ;) *Poof*

switch off the italics

got as far as...

//Release Your Inner Riley//

you know i'm not into new age esoteric funk

not that there's anything wrong with that

but it's not my cuppa tea

where ever you be...

hurry back

♥

The vice president has run utterly amok and must be stopped.
By Bruce Fein -Slate-
Under Dick Cheney, the office of the vice president has been transformed from a tiny acorn into an unprecedented giant oak. In grasping and exercising presidential powers, Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III. The most recent invention we know of is the vice president's insistence that an executive order governing the handling of classified information in the executive branch does not reach his office because he also serves as president of the Senate. In other words, the vice president is a unique legislative-executive creature standing above and beyond the Constitution. The House judiciary committee should commence an impeachment inquiry. As Alexander Hamilton advised in the Federalist Papers, an impeachable offense is a political crime against the nation. Cheney's multiple crimes against the Constitution clearly qualify.

Take the vice president's preposterous theory that his office is outside the executive branch because it also exercises a legislative function. The same can be said of the president, who also exercises a legislative function in signing or vetoing bills passed by Congress. Under Cheney's bizarre reasoning, President Bush is not part of his own administration: The executive branch becomes acephalous. Today Cheney Chief of Staff David Addington refused to renounce that reasoning, instead laughably trying to diminish the importance of the legal question at issue.

The nation's first vice president, John Adams, bemoaned: "My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived; and as I can do neither good nor evil, I must be borne away by others and meet common fate." Vice President John Nance Garner, serving under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, lamented: "The vice presidency isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss." In modern times, vice presidents have generally been confined to attending state funerals or to distributing blankets after earthquakes.
Con't

I won't be posting here any more. I know you will be happy.

What you did was more hateful than what I said.

So the blog is yours.

Bye all

it doesn't have anything to do with that...but whatever...

Make it so you can only post comments when logged in ..... that will fix it. All those spambots are just out there looking for a place to post a message .... you can get them on a Blogger Blog also ..... also I can't delete any of my Open Mic post's ..... I should be able to edit them all anytime .... could you fix that please.

Free Democracy

& I don't want to know...

is giving me the shits

can someone post a huge fucking blog stretching pic

Close your tag please!

sorry. At any rate this place has gotten too weird anyway. Hard to believe you just can't look past an anon-hole. Even Seder posts anonymous. I have to admit anon(s) makes some decent points.

What little good that will do!
But,you come back here.
Don't let some little asswhole Anon keep ya off the blog!
If Sam won't do anything we just have to protect each other here.
I've got your back toniD Anytime you need it!!
Hang in there!We love you!You news blogging hound you! :)

http://www.saibaba.org/

"so what the anon did here is try to stir up some problems on this blog. This is very much like what the republicans are doing to divide this country."

Yup.

It's just some poor lonely bastard. It was probably the highlight of his life, this sad attempt at generating some drama. That's what trolls do.

"A `troll' is an individual who enjoys creating conflict on the internet. He or she creates and fuels arguments which upset other members of the online community.

Trolls thrive in the anonymous space that is the internet. Trolls crave attention from others, and they don't care whether the attention is positive or negative. For trolls, other users are not quite real people; they are abstract characters on the other side of a computer screen. Trolls don't feel bad about hurting the feelings of other people in the digital space."

i don't disagree with your perspective on anonymous posts but i'm all for bringing back anonymous coward to encourage people to create something unique to themselves so that some of the subthreads make sense.

toniD - things have been busy so i haven't read the last thread, but your posts give us a lot of food for thought.

- Lewis Carroll

You won anon
Submitted by toniD on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 11:07am.

I won't be posting here any more. I know you will be happy.

What you did was more hateful than what I said.

So the blog is yours.

Bye all

*****************

What is this about? ...... I don't want to wait 10 minutes for the other thread to load to search it for what happend.

U.S. Immigration overhaul backed by Bush suffers major defeat in Senate - Reuters

NUCLEAR DEATH

toni

(awww, gee)

thanks, d. for the sentiment

go tell it to the silent one...

big sammy

AP weighs in:
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
24 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush, moving toward a constitutional showdown with Congress, asserted executive privilege Thursday and rejected lawmakers' demands for documents that could shed light on the firings of federal prosecutors.

Bush's attorney told Congress the White House would not turn over subpoenaed documents for former presidential counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor. Congressional panels want the documents for their investigations of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' stewardship of the Justice Department.

The Democratic chairmen of the two committees seeking the documents accused Bush of stonewalling and disdain for the law, and said they would press forward with enforcing the subpoenas.

"With respect, it is with much regret that we are forced down this unfortunate path which we sought to avoid by finding grounds for mutual accommodation," White House counsel Fred Fielding said in a letter to the chairmen of the Senate and House Judiciary Committees. "We had hoped this matter could conclude with your committees receiving information in lieu of having to invoke executive privilege. Instead, we are at this conclusion."

Thursday was the deadline for surrendering the documents. The White House also made clear that Miers and Taylor would not testify next month, as directed by the subpoenas, which were issued June 13. The stalemate could end up with House and Senate contempt citations and a battle in federal court over separation of powers.

"Increasingly, the president and vice president feel they are above the law," said Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. He portrayed the president's actions as "Nixonian stonewalling."

His House counterpart, Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., said Bush's assertion of executive privilege was "unprecedented in its breadth and scope" and displayed "an appalling disregard for the right of the people to know what is going on in their government."

In his letter, Fielding said Bush had "attempted to chart a course of cooperation" by releasing more than 8,500 pages of documents and sending Gonzales and other senior officials to testify before Congress. The White House also had offered a compromise in which Miers, Taylor, White House political strategist Karl Rove and their deputies would be interviewed by Judiciary Committee aides in closed-door sessions, without transcripts.

Leahy and Conyers rejected that offer. Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said the Democrats should have accepted it
Con't

personally, speaking

the anon's & trolls are nothing to me

it's only when they attack others

e.g. shell from the other day

that raises my ire...

(and how)

if i had a baseball bat... (bam-bam)

game over

Ned Lamont ad...

http://ceadaoin.blogspot.com/2007/06/interesting-rumour-from-across-pond...

Sunday, June 24, 2007
An interesting rumour from across the pond ...

... has former Georgia Democratic Congressperson Cynthia McKinney going forward as the Green Party candidate for president, with Cindy Sheehan as her running mate. I hope it happens. It'll be amusing to watch Gormless & Co's attempt to claim ideological congruity with this ticket, as they sit in a government that the would-be USVP has accused of being "complicit in war crimes".

Actually, quite apart from that, I'd love to see this happen. I'm still allowed to vote in US federal elections, and it would be a nice change from having to hold my nose and vote for the lesser evil, or for some Peace and Freedom Party no-hoper you've never heard of (come to think of it, I've never heard of most of them either - even when I lived in California), or to just not be arsed because they're all crap. This would be one American presidential campaign I could really get behind.

Posted by Wednesday

"I have to admit anon(s) makes some decent points."

Sure. Anonymous statements are one thing. The problem is with socializing.

There's no steady personality. It makes interacting difficult.

♪~are being buffered by a profound grace~♪

This anono is Mean,and goes after the Lady bloggers!
You can tell he's been around off,and on for along time.
Just want to kick his ass!

Waxing Gibbons 96% of full, Thu 28 Jun, 2007 11:46 am edt

==

♪♫♪♫♪

Iraq by the Numbers

[...] Americans are theoretically waiting for the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, General David Petraeus, to "report" to Congress in September on the "progress" of the President's surge strategy. But there really is no reason to wait for September. An interim report -- "Iraq by the numbers" -- can be prepared now (as it could have been prepared last month, or last year). The trajectory of horror in Iraq has long been clear; the fact that the U.S. military is a motor driving the Iraqi cataclysm has been no less clear for years now. So here is my own early version of the "September Report."

A caveat about numbers: In the bloody chaos that is Iraq, as tens of thousands die or are wounded, as millions uproot themselves or are uprooted, and as the influence of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's national government remains largely confined to the four-square mile fortified Green Zone in the Iraqi capital, numbers, even as they pour out of that hemorrhaging land, are eternally up for grabs. There is no way most of them can be accurate. They are, at best, a set of approximate notations in a nightmare that is beyond measurement.

Oh yes, the proud, indignant, you won't have me to kick around anymore posts. How many have I read? What a joke. Give her 6 hours and she will be back to show "No one can run me off." I bet on the addiction!

...

The poet Rahim al-Maliki wrote about his dreams of Iraqi unity in a place where such appeals are drowned out by daily bombings. One of them took his life on Monday.

...

In one of his poems, he called upon all Iraqis to understand their shared stake in the country.

"If you do not love Iraq

But your glass has destroyed their stones."

.

sheesh!

anonokerfuffle?

just ignore em and get on with it.

i've reccomended paying attention to moon phases.

additional cycles manifest as well, we've been here before ya know.

"The poet Rahim al-Maliki wrote about his dreams of Iraqi unity in a place where such appeals are drowned out by daily bombings. One of them took his life on Monday."

what a waste corporate control of geopolitics is...

shove your platitudes up your arse

(thanks, bud)

Schuman Resonance
Schuman Resonance

By L. Oliver Duffy

when toni comes back

and toni...

hope you never come back

(you're too good for this joint)

xo.

i'll be back...

when toni comes back

appearance on 'Hardball' from the 26th.

Surrounded by a crowd of paid sycophantic white children?

disgusting filthy pig woman. she should be in a mental facility.

Umm...it looks like we might've inherited the Blog.... anonymous pissed everyone off from what I gather...

I was just catching up with the discourse.

It's a shame when cornered animals strike out.

It's hard work being THAT evil.

welp...time for work....

or his clones fucking around.

SOS DD. personally i ignore it and pay attention to the good stuff.

Where's that AAR stream link for Real Player you always post for ijits like me who keep losing it? ;-p

The player thru AAR sucks ass. I'm on a diff pc right now.

All you Real haters out there might want to take a look at this

Real Alternative

And it really, really works!

And just an FYI, there are multiple links to lots of good shows on the left side of the page here http://ltradio.blogspot.com/.

The White House today denied the Senate and House Judiciary Committees' subpoenas for information from Harriet Miers and Sara Taylor on the current US Attornies' Firing Controversy.

The AP has published the following:

WASHINGTON — President Bush, moving toward a constitutional showdown with Congress, asserted executive privilege Thursday and rejected lawmakers' demands for documents that could shed light on the firings of federal prosecutors.

Bush's attorney told Congress the White House would not turn over subpoenaed documents for former presidential counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor. Congressional panels want the documents for their investigations of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' stewardship of the Justice Department, including complaints of undue political influence.
---
"With respect, it is with much regret that we are forced down this unfortunate path which we sought to avoid by finding grounds for mutual accommodation," White House counsel Fred Fielding said in a letter to the chairmen of the Senate and House Judiciary Committees. "We had hoped this matter could conclude with your committees receiving information in lieu of having to invoke executive privilege. Instead, we are at this conclusion."

Today was the deadline for the delivering of these documents, and, when they were denied, Senator Patrick Leahy and Congressman John Conyers, the respective committee chairs, issued statements as follows:

"Increasingly, the president and vice president feel they are above the law," said Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. He portrayed the president's actions as "Nixonian stonewalling."

His House counterpart, Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., said Bush's assertion of executive privilege was "unprecedented in its breadth and scope" and displayed "an appalling disregard for the right of the people to know what is going on in their government."

In order to move ahead with their need for the documents, the two committees now have choices to make in enforcing their requirements. Undoubtedly it will end up un Federal Court in a battle that will defione Constitutional separation of powers,.

The White House had offered a compromise solution where Miers, Taylor, and Karl Rove could be interviewed in closed-door sessions without documents and with no transcripts made.

This is unsatisfactory and it points out that the White House really DOES have something to hide. One need only realize that this could have been settled months ago by honesty from Attorney General Gonzales and his resignation from office. Instead, more and more is being revealed about the illegal use of the Justice Department's power for Republican political purposes.

Where this will all end is unceratin, but is highly likely to be a movie script some years from now. Can't wait!

Under The LobsterScope

morning bud!

heres the link!

http://www.airamerica.com/listen/?q=wmp

back to it!

Summer Moon Illusion

06.27.2007

Sometimes you can't believe your eyes. This weekend is one of those times.

On Saturday night, June 30th, step outside at sunset and look around. You'll see a giant moon rising in the east. It looks like Earth's moon with the usual craters and seas, but something's wrong. This full moon is strangely inflated. It's huge!

You've just experienced the Moon Illusion.

Sky watchers have known for thousands of years that low-hanging moons look unnaturally big. Cameras don't see it, but human eyes do; it's a genuine illusion.

The Speech I Want the Democratic Nominee To Give

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&need...

FWIW - after reading all the comments here

Has anyone even given a thought about the poster who was bashed here? A regular blogger who contributed plenty to the blog from the very start? A good friend to a lot of people here? How do you think she is feeling about all this? I doubt very much that she will be back. Wanna bet that not?

Has that ever crossed your mind, toniD?

"I won't be posting here any more. I know you will be happy.

What you did was more hateful than what I said. "

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Delusion: Psychiatry. a fixed dominating, or persistent false mental conception resistant to reason.

kennie

Ya .. I had to take break from this place for .. what?? .. 8 months give or take a few weeks? At times dealing the infantile can really bum your ass out - that's for sure. It's all in how you deal, I think.

Good for Toni for knowing when to say when ..

Anyway, on the "something in the water front" ... it could be killer algae. Yes .. looks like we can add lake water to the list of things that can kill us ...

Not that that's a problem here ... in the Land of 10,000 Lakes ...

People who have no idea what happened in the Vietnam War should stop making arguments about the war. Which means: most conservatives.

Here's a blogger at the American Scene ruminating about the war's role in the rise of Reaganism:

Whatever else you want to say about "stab in the back" myths being spread later on, the public's response to the collapse of South Vietnam and Cambodia was not one immediately politically damaging to the party that worked to shut off aid to South Vietnam.

I presume he means the Democrats by "the party that worked to shut off aid to South Vietnam." He should shut up. ...

It's tragic that we live in a political culture in which people can repeat any made-up nonsense that makes the Democratic Party and liberals look bad and still expect to be taken seriously. C'est la guerre, I suppose.

Looking back at the decision to invade Iraq and the administration's handling of events in that country the only words that come to mind are those spoken by Delta House leader Otter to his freshmen fraternity brother Flounder: "You fucked up. You trusted us."

I missed one day and now toniD is leaving.
Could someone provide some info. I can't imagine this place without toniD.

toniD said...

Crank, are you here?
6/27/2007 11:34:00 PM
Anonymous said...

Testing again and again...

Crank Bait
6/28/2007 12:05:00 AM
Anonymous said...

I have my friggin' Blogger Account information written down in a honest-to-goodness paper file. I have no idea why it refuses to recognize me. I think that something changed when Blogger changed from whomever owned it to whomever owns it now?

Crank Bait
6/28/2007 12:07:00 AM
toniD said...

I see you now.

Just got the idea you are not fond of bridge. Was wondering, because she really drives me crazy
6/28/2007 12:07:00 AM
Anonymous said...

Didn't Blogger transfer from Yahoo to Google or something like that?

Crank Bait
6/28/2007 12:08:00 AM
toniD said...

Yes it's google now. If you sign up for a google gmail account and use that to sign in, it will recognize you. I had to do that also.

Forgot about that.
6/28/2007 12:09:00 AM
Anonymous said...

Ya think?

Yeah. I get obnoxious, maternal, full-of-self, narrow, my-way-or-the-highway vibes from her.

Usually it doesn't get my goat but it has recently. I'm probably being bitchier than usual.

For instance: Engaging War Dog is a stupid endeavor, according to her.

Engaging whomever irritates her is not.

Go figure.

Crank Bait
6/28/2007 12:12:00 AM
toniD said...

Don't worry, I can dump our conversation.
6/28/2007 12:12:00 AM
toniD said...

She got me one night when she dismissed me. Didn't want to talk about it any more. She had already posted her opinion so she dismissed me! No one dismisses me!!

I am being bitchy to but she gets on my last nerve.

She is definately German. You vill do vat I vant you to do and you vill like it!
6/28/2007 12:16:00 AM
Anonymous said...

I had a much meaner and more direct parody in mind but decided against it.

When I launched into Home On The Range, my target broadened.

The F word dig was going to be a part of the joke no matter what.

Crank Bait
6/28/2007 12:17:00 AM
toniD said...

And ono seems to ride her a little also.
6/28/2007 12:18:00 AM
toniD said...

I didn't want to discuss this on Sam's blog because there are some people who seem to like her.

Sunny J for one.

I got an email from Wil about her though. Wil can't stand her. Heh!

Love Wil!!
6/28/2007 12:20:00 AM
toniD said...

When I launched into Home On The Range, my target broadened.

The F word dig was going to be a part of the joke no matter what.

Crank Bait

I burst out laughing when I saw that.
6/28/2007 12:21:00 AM
Anonymous said...

You comment about being dismissed sums my vague opinion up nicely.

Haughtiness is a good way to piss me off. (Did I spell that right? I can't spell check in this comment box).

Oh, well. If I mispelled it, no matter. You'll dump this conversation and along with it the solid proof you need to indict me for misspelling haughtiness.

Crank Bait
6/28/2007 12:22:00 AM
toniD said...

No problem. It happens. I have been checking my spelling lately because it doesn't look right and when I check, it's right!

Drives me crazy. Don't know why that is happening.

In a forum such as this people are inevitably going to argue, disagree, bash, throw insults and generally act like twelve year olds b/c we are all just human, nothing more. We all have the capacity to act like a jackass or not, put someone down for fun or not, or just behave like nincompoops if we want to or not. Nobody here really likes it, but, it happens. Because we are just people. We react. We instigate. We provoke. We all give and take a lot of shit from each other. Nothing new with that.

Everyone, just get over yourselves and keep on posting like always. It doesn't matter what an anonymous coward or troll does or thinks or says here. They can't hurt you, really, unless you choose to let them. The same applies to "the regulars" here.

At one point, we all came to the conclusion that (most) Anon's do what they do because it's in their nature to act that way... they are serial bullies. They really don't deserve the attention and dare I say credit for stirring shit up here. We do that well enough without them.

Now let's move on, already.

ciao~

I agree...

*

I was back reading what the anon here just reposted...I didn't know til now what the ef all this german stuff was referring to...now I know...

But I still don't get who the anonymous is...

Reminds me of a Seinfeld....

New scene.
Cut to Susan, Elaine and Jerry watching Chunnel in the theater next
door. Jerry is eating popcorn while Elaine sips a drink and eats a bit
of popcorn

JERRY: I can't figure out what's going on here. I can't follow the
plot. Why did they kill that guy? I thought he was with them?

SUSAN: No, no. That's not the guy. That's a different guy.

(Susan looks irritated at Jerry and Elaine's talking)

JERRY: What is he doing in the Chunnel?

SUSAN: Would you two, Please?

http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/ThePoolGuy.html

Words, like eyes, are windows into a person's soul. Sometime folks should keep the curtains closed.

How to Destroy an African American City in 33 Steps:
(Steps 15-18)

Step Fifteen. Close down all the public schools for months. This will prevent families in the public school system, overwhelmingly African-Americans, from coming home.

Step Sixteen. Fire all the public school teachers, teacher aides, cafeteria workers and bus drivers and de-certify the teachers union--the largest in the state. This will primarily hurt middle class African Americans and make them look for jobs elsewhere.

Step Seventeen. Even better, take this opportunity to flip the public school system into a charter system and push foundations and the government to extra money to the new charter schools. Give the schools with the best test scores away first. Then give the least flooded schools away next. Turn 70% of schools into charters so that the kids with good test scores or solid parental involvement will go to the charters. That way the kids with average scores, or learning disabilities, or single parent families who are still displaced are kept segregated away from the "good" kids. You will have to set up a few schools for those other kids, but make sure those schools do not get any extra money, do not have libraries, nor doors on the toilets, nor enough teachers. In fact, because of this, you better make certain there are more security guards than teachers.

Step Eighteen. Let the market do what it does best. When rent goes up 70%, say there is nothing we can do about it. This will have two great results. It will keep many former residents away from the city and it will make landlords happy. If wages go up, immediately import more outside workers and wages will settle down.

Bill Quigley
http://www.counterpunch.org/quigley06282007.html

for Ward Churchill:
http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=13169&sectionID=43

Just read [in between laundry, about 15 phone calls and about 20 emails] the entire thread from last night and looks like I got dragged into the fray as well. [.. And might I say .. this place is STILL like Peyton Place after .. what?? .. 3 years?!??! Romance, Drama, Hate, Love, Support, Intrigue .. maybe it's actually more like Dallas?? Since there definitely seems to be someone a lot like JR - our little anonymous.] I was assuming Toni was pissed at anoni-trolls here. Now I see it was one person in particular.

Well .. to that end .. Yes .. Bridge can annoy me. I don't think I can name one person here who hasn't annoyed me - in varying degrees from once-in-a-blue-moon to habitually - including Nik and myself. [Trust me .. those are fun conversations I have with myself!! : D - LOL!!]

Was it smart for Toni to express her pisstivity at Bridge on her blog to Crank? Well .. It was certainly her right. However, I think I might have emailed instead. Crank is a fine listener and can defuse pretty much any situation. I am sure given the chance .. he would have been able to talk Toni down.

Was it cool for "Anonymous" to post the private conversation between Toni and Crank on the blog. The case could be made that it was a very bullshit thing to do. But knowing this pool is filled with shit, it probably wasn't wise to leave a breadcrumb trail to the evidence that could [and to my mind would] be used to hang you. [Did Watergate teach us nothing people??]

Was it the most mature thing for Bridge to post "Backstabbers"? I don't know .. everyone knows I am a total sucker for music from the 70s .. so I am hardly a unbiased.

I guess I would have been a bit more direct [Read: Adult] and asked what the issue was. But that doesn't seem to happen here much .. does it? We let these little squabbles get infected ..fester and then let them explode all over the blog.

Bottom line is .. I think we all intermittently love and hate each other here. When hate/pisstivity/loathing/random bird-flipping at posts by an offending blogger happens .. I think we need to do some questioning. We need to ask ourselves why is this person bothering the fuck out of me and is it a "Me problem" or a "Them problem?"

I know with me .. it's always a "Them" problem .. Because I KNOW I am perfect!! : D - LOL!!

Anyone who has any issues .. w.izzard.girl@gmail.com .. feel free.

(and a commentary):

Key Facts in the Ward Churchill Case

The Charges:

CU's grounds for dismissal now consist solely of the charges that Prof. Churchill:

(1) failed to provide sufficient evidence that in the 1837 smallpox epidemic

(a) infected blankets were obtained from an infirmary;

(b) an Army doctor or post surgeon told the Mandans to scatter; and

(c) 400,000 people, as opposed to possibly 300,000, ultimately died;

(2) cited to material he has consistently acknowledged as ghostwritten;

(3) published an article in Z Magazine in which the editors, without telling him, deleted his attribution of co-authorship to "Dam the Dams;" and

(4) copyedited a piece in a book edited by a third party which, unbeknownst to him, plagiarized Fay Cohen.

The invalidity of each charge has been shown demonstrated by Prof. Churchill and numerous other scholars. But even if they were true, they illustrate the pretextual nature of the process. No prolific scholar could withstand such fine-tooth combing of his or her work.

The Bottom Line: Recognizing that they could not fire Prof. Churchill directly for his political speech, CU administrators created a pretext to do so by soliciting/inventing "research misconduct" allegations. A biased investigation generated a handful of technical charges which the University has falsely labeled "plagiarism" or "fabrication of evidence." To date, external political and financial pressures have trumped the First Amendment and the principle of academic freedom at the University of Colorado.
Saito

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSgReGKmCwQ
The paperback is now available.)

Text online:
http://criminyjicket.tripod.com/chomfouc.html

Sorry I am not the anon you wished would go away but this is just crazy.

There is a way to exclude habitual trolls. I suggest Sam find it. The punk who is creating all of the grief could be gone like "Don't stop (fade to black)"*.

Some of the non-anons are not comporting themselves with a lot of class eitherand not quite as special as they take themseffs.

Lately this has not been a good read even before today. I'll look back occasionally but I won't bother to log in if I am inclined to make a note.

Nothing to do with you if you see this, Seder.

I wrote a parody song. Its barbs were veiled from anyone who did not share my opinion or from anyone who had not felt the same twinges of irritation. Nothing was hidden from the target because the song is comprised of key words and phrases. Therefore, I said what I wanted to say and I constructed it for the people whom I wanted to understand it.

toniD understood my parody (she thought) but she wanted to verify that the veiled references were intended in the way that she had read them. She asked me to visit her blog.

Unfortunately, I was repeatedly unable to post on her blog and I continued to post on Sam's blog to advise toniD that I was unable to comment on her blog. toniD and I have never communicated via email or telephone or anywhere other than Sam's blog, so it was a bit of a cluster-fuck trying to meet up elsewhere on short notice.

An Anonymous psycho followed me over to toniD's blog where it copied the comments before they were deleted. A short and discrete and deleted conversation became stolen property in the hands of a sick son of a bitch.
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When I posted the parody I signed it with my name (and I note that the Anonymous ass has not reposted it even once---it is much too subtle to serve his shit-disturbing purposes). The reason that it was veiled and did not contain names, ranks and serial numbers was so that morons like Anonymous could not stoke fires that are not their own. The reason that toniD pulled me aside to inquire as to my intent was so that morons like Anonymous couldn't use the information to make mountains out of mole hills.

If there is a villain, it is me. If there is more than one villain, it is me and the Anonymous psychotic.

toniD was drawn in simply because she wanted to verify the intent of the parody. Leave her alone. She did nothing wrong and attempted to be discrete in the interest of keeping others from getting bent out of shape.

When I wrote the parody I had no idea if anyone shared my irritation or not. I had not discussed the subject matter with anyone. I was speaking for myself. The prime intent was to make a point (or two) to the target without creating an on-going argument or a soap-operatic shit storm involving a bevy of bump heads.

If I cared about preserving the dignity of Anonymous, I'd write another veiled parody loaded with key words and phrases that Anonymous would readily recognize are intended for him/her/it. Since Anonymous has no dignity to preserve, I can make do with a simple "Fuck you."

"I'll look back occasionally but I won't bother to log in if I am inclined to make a note."

That will make you no different from the rest of the anonymous'. For, after all, who are we to know who is whom exactly - without appellation?

Where ever you go ... There you are...

You really think you have to explain yourself or apologize for anything?

Your ego is impressive. You did nothing wrong and if you did we have all grown to expect no less. Neither did toniD.

The anon twerp had nothing better to do. Sad for that loser. I spent some time going through the psychology of an internet addict. This drama is exactly what his plans were. I'm hurt for everyone involved but just mad at the invasive immature idiots who don't even deserve the name trolls and didn't comment out of respect for you guys.

I'm sure blogging for you is more about community than proving what an ass you are Bait.

didn't log in. Me Fernando...

Here is the parody song in question. It holds up well, if I do say so myself.

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Isolationism
Submitted by Crank Bait on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 12:10am.

Oh, give me a home where the like minded roam
Where the idears are just like I say
Where never is heard a refutational word
And the sighs are not condescending all day

Home, home on my own blog
Where only I can on log
Where seldom is heard a four lettered F word
And the threads can't be spammed by War Dog

it's funnier now.

I just can not believe you would let one stupid anon twerp go on like that all day? All this time I was thinking you were all thick skinned an all. Little did I know the bag holding your scrotum was so thin.

I'm glad you are here - really.

Looks like we are now being served with a completely different script by the second writer of blog trash.

The Parody is the culprit now? LOL Well ... why not. One explanation is as good as the other at this point. At the end of the day we can all write one and see which one will be accepted by the publisher :D

"Since Anonymous has no dignity to preserve, I can make do with a simple "Fuck you.""

Speaking of self? No doubt. Your true colors were exposed and you find a scapegoat in the ever so handy Anonymous? Seems to be a familiar song on the blog right now.

Lets face it. Anyone could have clicked on the link toniD posted for others to access her blog and who knows how many did at that point. There was nothing special or even remotely private about it. You click on a link. Happens all day long. Since when is clicking on a link posted on the blog a "Psychothing" to do?

Trying to dig yourself out of a hole maybe? But getting in deeper instead?

Why not go ahead. Lets hear another parody loaded w. key words and phrases for Anonymous. We could all need some fun entertainment right now.

kennie

T1 [URL=http://www.google.ca/02.html] T2 [/URL] [URL]http://www.google.ca/03.html[/URL] [LINK=http://www.google.ca/04.html] T4 [/LINK] [LINK]http://www.google.ca/05.html[/LINK] http://www.google.ca/06.html hhCk60

The Psychothing is about copy/paste silly. Stick around and learn a few things.

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It is so absurd to believe that someone would be so upset over grade school sandbox word slinging in this little blog that they would pout and completely stop posting.

As "Ahnald" said "I will be back" and so will they because they can not stay away. There have been literally hundreds of anonymous characters here of all sorts that come & go and of course Sam Seder himself has posted anonymously many many times. Just because a few assholes with a nick(airasshole comes to mind) and without a nick do there best to stir things up does not mean one has to 1000 times overreact on here.

IGNORE THEM and Move On...

When they don't get any attention, they move on from this little blog.

In Short:

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THOSE DRUIDS, GET OVER IT & MOVE ON

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is I didn't figure out what any anon said till I re-read the post.

I never read anon comments because they are irrelevant to me. And who is in what hole? I don't see a hole for anyone. Especially not Bait. You must be a new troll.

it was buggin me..I had to cut the xtra out...

With our traces we just found out that one of the IP numbers of multiple posters we see matches earlier postings by the Nobody.

Part of this psycho crap now makes a little bit of sense.

did you hear those two songs I posted this morning....either I was in a VERY good mood or they're that good...I thought so anyway...

I always find that anyone screaming out "Troll!" is almost always a big time troll themselves.

It is the pot calling the kettle black.

h/t Joe Sudbay.

Zambia: Don't Downplay Union Mergers, FFTUZ Told

THE Zambia Congress of Trade Unions (ZCTU) has called on the Federation of Free Trade Unions of Zambia (FFTUZ) not to downplay the importance of trade union mergers.

ZCTU secretary general, Sylvester Tembo, said in a statement in Kitwe yesterday that unions stood to lose if they opted to continue with the status quo.

"This is not the time for trade union leaders to take individualistic positions on serious issues at the expense of the interests of the general membership," Mr Tembo said in reaction to FFTUZ national executive secretary Lyson Mando's negative response to the ZCTU proposed merger.

Mr Mando on Monday described the ZCTU proposal contained in Mr Tembo's letter as not being serious saying it lacked details on how the merger was envisioned.
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I can't get your post's during the day due to the filters at work. I always get them in the evening thou. Thank god the Anon's are finally gone thou. Whew.

http://www.zabalaza.net/index02.htm

Coulter falsely claimed Elizabeth Edwards "lied about" her column

http://mediamatters.org/items/200706280005

During an interview with right-wing pundit Ann Coulter on the June 28 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough asked Coulter about an exchange Coulter had with Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, on the June 26 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews. Scarborough noted that Elizabeth Edwards "said that you had written some column where you had made light of John Edwards' dead son," and asked Coulter: "What's the story behind that?" Coulter replied: "Needless to say, that is not true. ... You can look it up. It's all over the Web. It's a fabulous column, titled 'The Party of Ideas,' written in 2003. I had to go back and get the full gist of the column. It was about all of the Democratic primary opponents." In the column, published on November 19, 2003, Coulter, addressing John Edwards, wrote: "If you want points for not using your son's death politically, don't you have to take down all those 'Ask me about my son's death in a horrific car accident' bumper stickers?" Coulter further said on Morning Joe, "I'm the only person in America who has to go back and constantly explain an entire column when it is lied about like this. ... I am getting a little fed up with being described as the aggressor in these matters. In any event, it was about the Democratic presidential nominees back then." But Coulter did not explain how what Elizabeth Edwards said constituted a "lie[]."

On the June 26 Hardball, Elizabeth Edwards, who called into the show to speak to Coulter, said: "You had a column a couple of years ago, which made fun of the moment of [brother of then-presidential candidate and Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean] Charlie Dean's death, and suggested that my husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car that said, 'Ask me about my dead son.' " But contrary to Coulter's claim on Morning Joe that Edwards "lied about" the content of her November 2003 column, Coulter did joke that John Edwards "had a bumper sticker ... that said, 'Ask me about my dead son.'

tell me what you think tonight...

http://www.healeroliver.com/

@ @ @ @ @ @ @

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. ~ Oscar Wilde

@ @ @ @ @ @ @

From the June 28 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

SCARBOROUGH: OK, but Ann, you -- I think sometimes you give people too much credit when you make references to Isaiah Washington at CPAC, from Grey's Anatomy, when you make references to Bill Maher --

COULTER: I described the entire Bill Maher scenario in one sentence. If the Good Morning America audience -- which is pretty large and pretty broad -- gets the joke and no one figured out a way to truncate that sentence until 36 hours later -- I mean, it's not like the liberal blogs weren't -- as they always do -- watching my appearance and instantly posting from the moment I walked off Good Morning America all of their indignation, which apparently centered on my comparing George Bush to FDR, because he's great on foreign policy, lousy on domestic policy. Nobody even thought of how to lie about what I said for 36 hours. So don't tell me I was giving them ammunition. And if you want to go back to CPAC, I was speaking to a group of 7,000 College Republicans and no, I will not be arranging my words so the stupidest person in the liberal blogosphere understands what I'm saying.

[...]

SCARBOROUGH: Now, I will tell you the part of that Elizabeth Edwards interview that jarred the most people -- jarred me, jarred just about everybody I spoke with -- was the part where she brought up the fact -- she said that you had written some column where you had made light of John Edwards' dead son. What's the story behind that?

COULTER: Needless to say, that is not true. And coming from people who have done what we have just seen them do in the earlier segment, I don't think they deserve a lot of credibility on this. You can look it up. It's all over the Web. It's a fabulous column, titled "The Party of Ideas," written in 2003. I had to go back and get the full gist of the column. It was about all of the Democratic primary opponents. And by the way, lifting a quote out of context from a short, five-minute TV interview is a little quicker to correct than an entire column --

SCARBOROUGH: Right.

COULTER: -- written four years ago. There is a point to a column. There is a woof and a wharf, and let's see -- oh yeah, that's right. I'm the only person in America who has to go back and constantly explain an entire column when it is lied about like this and describe why I chose this adverb rather than that adverb. And was this a joke? Was that a joke? So, you know, I am getting a little fed up with being described as the aggressor in these matters. In any event, it was about the Democratic presidential nominees back then. You know, [former Rep. Dick] Gephardt [MO], Dean, of course, this guy -- the trial lawyer -- and how they were not talking about the war, they were not talking about the economy.

What they were talking about was either they're running for president either because they had a dead relative -- "Vote for me!" -- or had suddenly discovered a Jewish heritage. And in the various dead relative categories, that included, of course, "well, one who wasn't running, but the one who started it all" Al Gore in two, two speeches at the Democratic National Convention. Once, it was the sister, once, it was the near fatal accident of his son, so that it got to the point that all of his family members had to start fearing more runs for higher office.

You had Dean's brother. You had Gephardt's -- I don't know -- sister or the close death of a child. And then I went through the trial lawyer. A fact that is now memorialized in Bob Shrum's book, who describes John Edwards telling -- John Kerry felt queasy about it and almost didn't put John Edwards --

SCARBOROUGH: That's right. Yeah.

COULTER: -- on the ticket because Edwards kept saying to him, "I've never told anyone this story before," and then tells a tear-jerking story about how he climbed up onto his dead son's slab at the funeral home.

[...]

SCARBOROUGH: Again, I wouldn't have written that in a column, Ann, but certainly, nobody's talking about this.

COULTER: Why not?

SCARBOROUGH: Because it's not just who I am. I don't do that.

COULTER: You would write what in a column? [inaudible]

SCARBOROUGH: I wouldn't have put on a bumper sticker -- I would not have put on a bumper sticker 'ask me about my dead son.' That's just not me. That is you. And there are certainly people out there that provoke thought that way. I don't do that, but at the same time --

COULTER: Well, I kinda think you have to read the full thing in context.

SCARBOROUGH: OK.

COULTER: And apparently, however I write --

SCARBOROUGH: OK, fine. Hold on a second, Ann. Let me make a point.

COULTER: I have written five New York Times best-sellers.

SCARBOROUGH: OK.

COULTER: People like the way I write.

SCARBOROUGH: All right, Ann. Let me make my point, Ann.

COULTER: I comment on America in a lively and entertaining way. These are legitimate topics and I'm a little sick of being browbeaten by a bunch of harridans about why I chose this word or why I told that joke. And then people turn around and say "Oh, you're so mean! You're so mean!"

SCARBOROUGH: Well, Ann, I'm not browbeating you here. I'm trying to put it in proper context.

COULTER: Well, you haven't spent 24 hours being asked, "Oh, why did you use this word?"

SCARBOROUGH: OK.

COULTER: I've never seen people avoid ideas so much in such an obvious way and try to alert Americans not to read anything, not to listen to something someone says -- not because of what she's saying, but by trying to portray her as a Nazi. This happens every time I put a book out, and I'm getting a little bored with it. To use a Smith College word, it's getting a little tiresome.

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, that is a Smith College word. I -- again, trying to put this in context. We're reading Shrum's words, and --

COULTER: "The Party of Ideas" -- November 20th, 2003. It is one of the greatest columns ever written and I highly recommend it.

SCARBOROUGH: OK, well, we will recommend that to everybody Ann, and I greatly appreciate you being on with us. And again, the thing is -- I appreciate it, Ann. The thing is, you know, obviously Ann is very angry right now. And you all have been around me when I've been angry because my words have been wrenched from their context. And, you know, the thing is, again, whether you talk about the first issue -- whether it's Good Morning America where they just cut out the last part of that instead of telling the whole story about it, you know, it's misleading. There's no doubt. The wire services have been misleading, a lot of news shows, because people hate Ann Coulter so much that you can get away with it. That's just the bottom line.

From the June 25 edition of ABC's Good Morning America:

CHRIS CUOMO (co-host): Some tough words for you by the three top candidates in response to what you had said. Some were calling it a homosexual slur, you said it was a taunt. They all came out when you were talking about John Edwards and said, "This was wrong. We must deny it." Fair criticism of you or a shift towards the tolerant among the GOP?

COULTER: No, no. There were -- I was denounced all over. All over. I think the one that hurt the most was from I'mALittleGirlInAPinkPartyDress.com.

CUOMO: Why?

COULTER: Very upsetting.

CUOMO: You --

COULTER: Though about the same time, Bill Maher said -- and by the way, I did not call John Edwards the F-word. I said I couldn't talk about him because you go into rehab for using that word.

CUOMO: You say you were joking.

COULTER: About the same -- oh yeah. I wouldn't insult gays by comparing them to John Edwards. Now, that would be mean. But about the same time, you know, Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack. So I've learned my lesson. If I'm gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.

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So hard to be you Ann. The whole world is against you. It couldn't be something you said could it? Of course not. You're just persecuted for no reason.

Such a victim.

Nice to read you...

I liked the post you did a while back from MM about Neal Boortz...I've mentioned before that the one am radio station in this town plays aaaaall those right wing creep shows all day...in fact..that reminds me that there is one online site that a lotta people in this town hang out in & I should post all things Rush, Sean, Laura, Neal & Weiner from MM on to...

Sounds like you have me pegged Alice.

Even longer than usual post.

Thank god for the freshness and truth of the great majority of anonymous comments. Their constitutional exercise of free speech is refreshing.

- Me, Myself & I -

:)

Like this? :)))

"The Psychothing is about copy/paste silly. Stick around and learn a few things."

Nice, GBC...

I agree...

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Thanks, hun. Is it fair to say I like some of the drama that goes on here? I dunno. Keeps it interesting. Here's some more of Alaska for you. Added a few more. :)

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oh, and kennie boy, shut the fuck up already. If we wanted your opinion, we'd give it to you, fuckwad.

ttfn~

Good to read you too!

I am off again now....!

tata.........

I thought mAnn said victims or people with standing shouldn't defend themselves.

That's like shit eating an asshole. Or shit eating an Anon.

eh, I wish I knew English better.

Back to work for me...

*boooo hisssssss*

I know what that means. It's not exactly English thou..... 8)

A/O is a bigger ass than Crank. I don't know why he loves me. I'm missing him oddly right about now.

breached.

I'll take a page from tonid here and tell you:

Nobody Shuts Me Up. Not even you who seems to lord it over everyone here today. Who elected you blog police? Dissent is not your thing? Its easy to talk Dissent but ..... too many wimps in the end to go the distance.

Thanks goodness, this is still a free blog and a free country.

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"Thank god for the freshness and truth of the great majority of anonymous comments. Their constitutional exercise of free speech is refreshing.

- Me, Myself & I -"

Bravo! Best line I heard here today! Because its the truth. And too many are running away from it: Truth and Dissent.

kennie

I Shot The Sheriff...

Submitted by Crank Bait on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 6:01pm.

Let ME be your spotter next time.

You fucking anonymae take advantage of Sam's sense of fair play & freedom of expression. The rest of left blogistan would have booted your dumb asses out after your first shit-disturbing post...

...as would I, given the the slightest opportunity.

"Since Anonym[ae] ha[ve] no dignity to preserve, I can make do with a simple 'Fuck you.'"

Leave it to crankie to get to the heart of the matter.

[And you think you're truly "Anonymous," Gare? Bruhahahahahahaha!]

I put a straight line out there. If Crank is drinking and didn't invite us then there is going to be a real problem.

Now we get all the tortured explanations. Everyone can see what went down, spin won't help now. When the light snaps on, the bugs run for cover. Bridge still has friends here.

These two worms set out to destroy Bridge. As a result they destroy themselves. You know there just may be a God.

Haight.

I've got a new complaint

Heart Shaped Box, Nirvana

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Please consider some sort of moderation, Sam. I'd prefer a community implemented type, like at kos, but, at this point, I'd even be happy with a top down system like FDL. You have a good thing here, and it could be much better, imo.

For the record, I support anon postings, but think that they should be subject to a final verification step, like when blogger asks you to type in the letters/numerals in the box. It'd cut down on spam, and it would still allow n00bs to jump in without having to register.

Please also consider banning the habitual troll(s). Inform them of their banning, and point out the fact that harassment is usually a violation of their ISP's TOS.

Sorry for the meta, I just hate it when these fuckers shit on this place.

Much love, and many blessings

WfC

about this time of the year everyone goes a bit crazy.

ignore the trolls, don't sweat the small stuff,

and i sure hope ToniD comes back.

You are no friend of anyone here.

Sipping a margarita and wishing all those biblical plagues your way again, fucker.

: )

Later

WfC

Who is going to apologise to Bridge? Or does she get a Fuck You as well?

Green's outsourcing of the AAR News Service is being announced. Why? Green's brother is a rich bastard; he can afford a crack news team.

bridge is an old friend and a classy lady.

you all ever pay attention to moon phases?

I am traveling on a bright-white cruise ship with two restaurants, five bars, and 500 readers of National Review. Here, the Iraq war has been "an amazing success." Global warming is not happening. Europe is becoming a new Caliphate. And I have nowhere to run.

From time to time, National Review--the bible of American conservatism--organizes a cruise for its readers. Last November, I paid $1,200 to join them. The rules I imposed on myself were simple: If any of the conservative cruisers asked who I was, I answered honestly, telling them I was a journalist. But, mostly, I just tried to blend in--and find out what conservatives say when they think the rest of us aren't listening.

http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/06/just-how-insane-are-neocons.ht...

A must read.

The next morning, I warily wander into the Vista Lounge--a Vegas-style showroom--for the first of the trip's seminars: a discussion intended to exhume the conservative corpse and discover its cause of death on the black, black night of November 7, 2006.

There is something strange about this discussion, and it takes me a few moments to realize exactly what it is. All the tropes conservatives usually deny in public--that Iraq is another Vietnam, that Bush is fighting a class war on behalf of the rich--are embraced on this shining ship in the middle of the ocean. Yes, they concede, we are fighting another Vietnam; and this time we won't let the weak-kneed liberals lose it. "It's customary to say we lost the Vietnam war, but who's 'we'?" Dinesh D'Souza asks angrily. "The left won by demanding America's humiliation." On this ship, there are no Viet Cong, no three million dead. There is only liberal treachery. Yes, D'Souza says, in a swift shift to domestic politics, "of course" Republican politics is "about class. Republicans are the party of winners, Democrats are the party of losers."

The panel nods, but it doesn't want to stray from Iraq. Robert Bork, Ronald Reagan's one-time nominee to the Supreme Court, mumbles from beneath low-hanging jowls: "The coverage of this war is unbelievable. Even Fox News is unbelievable. You'd think we're the only ones dying. Enemy casualties aren't covered. We're doing an excellent job killing them."

Then, with a judder, the panel runs momentarily aground. Rich Lowry, the preppy, handsome 38-year-old editor of National Review, announces, "The American public isn't concluding we're losing in Iraq for any irrational reason. They're looking at the cold, hard facts." The Vista Lounge is, as one, perplexed. Lowry continues, "I wish it was true that, because we're a superpower, we can't lose. But it's not."

No one argues with him. They just look away, in the same manner that people avoid glancing at a crazy person yelling at a bus stop. Then they return to hyperbole and accusations of treachery against people like their editor. The aging historian Bernard Lewis declares, "The election in the U.S. is being seen by [the bin Ladenists] as a victory on a par with the collapse of the Soviet Union. We should be prepared for whatever comes next." This is why the guests paid up to $6,000. This is what they came for. They give him a wheezing, stooping ovation and break for coffee.

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Submitted by Alice on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 6:55pm.
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Pleas stop posting this evil communist stuff. My mind is already made up.

scary effers eh?

so out of touch they have a different reality.

We will miss you, Bill.

Wayne Gilman, we will see you again on TV at G.O.P. functions.

-M the a-c

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Economic concerns!

Zachary Lockman will discuss Norman Finkelstein.

GET A HAIRLIP!

Why was he critical of the "Holocaust Industry," Lockman? Explain that.

Wayne Gilman was annoying. Good riddance.

I remember quite a few of the things he said that annoyed me...

"the insurgents' barbaric attacks against American soldiers"

Excuse me? It's their goddamn country. If anything, the occupation is barbaric.

I remember something else like "the Democrats' attack against President Bush's proposal, which is seen by many as unfair" a couple of years ago

I can't stand that ass

-M the a-c

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/content.php?pg=3

In more recent years, the Holocaust industry has effectively turned into a shake-down racket in which more and more countries throughout Europe are being bludgeoned into coughing up compensation.
Professor Norman Finkelstein

In his book, One Country: A Bold Proposal to End the Israeli-Palestinian Impasse, Ali Abu Nimah, a Palestinian-American writer and commentator on Middle East and Arab-American affairs and co-founder of the Electronic Intifada website, argues that the "conventional wisdom" of the two-state, land-for-peace equation needs to be rethought. Partition, he argues, is a flawed idea that is doomed to fail.

The only viable choice is a return to the proposal of a one-state solution - one country with equal rights and votes for both Israelis and Palestinians. Al Jazeera's Laila El-Haddad interviewed Abu Nimah about his book.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/426C3428-118C-4A53-81A1-5B2CA2256...

Al Jazeera: You go from reluctantly backing a two-state solution to advocating a one-state solution. When did you make the ideological shift and why?

I always struggled with it, but I did for many years sincerely believe that a two-state solution was the best, the most possible, the most pragmatic.

I made the final shift about three or four years ago during the [second] intifada, when I recognised that all the talk of a two-state solution, all of the diplomatic initiatives, were so divorced from the reality of what Israel was doing on the ground that it became clear to me it was not possible. I learnt more, I read more about South Africa, about Ireland, about Palestine, and this is where I ended up.

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In the book "Perilous Power," Chomsky takes that 'reluctantly backing the two-state solution' position. Pragmatism is the word he uses for it as well. I wonder if any events would change his mind on that. He doesn't hide the fact that he's a one-state guy at heart.

I remember something else like "the Democrats' attack against President Bush's proposal, which is seen by many as unfair" a couple of years ago

I can't stand that ass

-M the a-c

There is something annoying about progressive news services reading copy. But still, I really liked AAR News Team. The signature of the network.

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Yeah, he was probably reading copy... but he should have done a better job of selecting the copy

-M the a-c

"scary effers eh?
so out of touch they have a different reality."

Yup. It would be funny if it weren't such a serious threat to the future of the planet.

Could you imagine a news team on Air America that received it's news from somewhere other than the usual sources, maybe a new progressive newswire, or something.

Yeah, me neither.

Yeah, he was probably reading copy... but he should have done a better job of selecting the copy

-M the a-c

I don't know much about Wayne Gilman, politically. I find him to be an interesting news personality. He did some good comedy skits on Morning Sedition. Does WG have a history of being conservative?

Sunshine Jim on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 8:10pm.
bridge is an old friend and a classy lady.

you all ever pay attention to moon phases? ***

Yea! Yea! Yea Verily! ::nod:: Brava/Bravo

from: WiccanDruid

Shakedown Racket

Submitted by Nicky Rose on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 8:59pm.

The Kosher tax....

News Daddy
Submitted by Nicky Rose on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 9:17pm

I don't know much about Wayne Gilman, politically.

_________

When Seder inteviewed him, he whined that AAR's complaints about Bush reminded him of "the dozens." "The dozens" is a game that black kids played a long time ago. The dozens: "I saw yo mama the other day. I thought she was a car," "Yeah, well, I saw yo mama.. She told me yo house was flooded from that bed wettin'."
Berry Gordy described it in his autobiography.
In other words, Gilman thinks that this network is comprised of kids who yell childish insults about chimp... and I guess he thought that he needed to counterbalance it. Great perspective. Again, good riddance.

-M the a-c

willing victms of their own brainwashing.

was one of the first things i noticed when i was a kid.

that was all around me like a fog i could barely see through for years.

& that doesn't absolve anyone of personal responsibility...

Is Imus coming back? Vote Now!

Dawn of the Dead

(I took down the picture... couldn't resize it for some reason and it was too big. No one needs to look at that scary ugly mug anyway.)

just as i'm finally figgering this all out i'm falling apart and heading for the junk pile.

i live for the irony...

In other words, Gilman thinks that this network is comprised of kids who yell childish insults about chimp... and I guess he thought that he needed to counterbalance it. Great perspective. Again, good riddance.

-M the a-c

Of course, he is partially right. However, the only counterbalance should be serious criticism of Bushco, which I don't know if Gilman provided. What did you think about the rest of the staff?

when you love

you forgive.

simple eh?

... runs until about 3 days after certain "changes" and sometimes "they" are just plain "bitchy" (giggle) ... Mwah HaHa ;)
;) WiccanDruid

breaktime over.

back to it, love you all!

I can't find one single picture of "Vic Ferrari" ..happen to know where I might find one...

eya A.!
Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 9:28pm.
when you love
you forgive.
simple eh?

:)

News Daddy
Submitted by Nicky Rose on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 9:28pm.

What did you think about the rest of the staff?

»
reply

Crowley is my boy. I sent a $100 gift to Crowley a couple of years ago. He was excellent. I don't know much about the other news staff.

The Kosher tax....

Big difference! The Holocaust Industry is driven by Israel, and the US has their back. Their activities are clear. Switzerland was a recent target.The Kosher Tax is [was] a canard spread around by ignorant anti-Semites to discredit Jewish merchants. Anyway, take this up with Norman Finkelstein himself.

--a canard spread around by ignorant anti-Semites to discredit Jewish merchants--

I've had it wrong all these years.

As Sam says, sometimes we need anonymity to hear the truth
Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 6:59pm.

@ @ @ @ @ @ @

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. ~ Oscar Wilde

@ @ @ @ @ @ @

In his Seventeen Traditions book..& on a youtube talk about the book I saw...

debate on pbs? it's a hoot.

on the cutting edge, as usual. "How are we going to get National Health Care?

Sorry, no pic. But here's a video

http://www.tubearoo.com/articles/87038/Taxi_Vic_Ferrari.html

--a canard spread around by ignorant anti-Semites to discredit Jewish merchants--

»I need to be clear on this. Are you saying that Finkelstein's Holocaust Industry is a modern version of the Kosher Tax? If so...

The "Kosher tax" (or "Jewish tax") is a canard or urban legend spread by anti-Semitic, white supremacist and other extremist organizations such as the National Alliance and Ku Klux Klan.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] It refers to the claim that food producers must pay an exorbitant amount to obtain the right to display a symbol on their products (often a K or U in a circle) that indicates it is kosher or pareve, and that this cost is passed on to consumers through higher prices which constitute a “kosher tax”. Additional false claims are made that this “tax” is “extorted” from food companies wishing to avoid a boycott,[10] and used to support Zionist causes or the state of Israel.[2] Racist groups encourage consumers to avoid this “Jewish tax” by boycotting kosher products,[8] or by requesting a refund from the government on their income taxes.[9]
Wikipedia

Why?

& I get two PBS's on regular network tv...9 from SF is too fuzzy..6 from Stockton (as usual) isn't playing it....they don't show Bill Moyers either...trust me..I do not get the whole "fruits and nuts" thing..there are a ton of conservative (wasteful greedy pig) ville's in this state....

Gotta go!

& so if it's ok to add a tax to products (some we don't even eat, like tin foil), then I want a Faerie tax...& every business who wants to be patronized by faeries must pay to have the faerie queen approve the product they sell...with a symbol to prove it..& it costs money to get it...

that affect blacks and minorities, like the disparity between crack and powder cocaine prison sentences, New Orleans, AIDS, etc.

it sounds like Kucinich is kicking ass...

So....weird that m-the-ac brought up Berry Gordy..b/c I LOVED working for that man & with a majority of black co-workers....& I don't know if that's racist to say or not b/c I would like a female president, but not Hillary now...so...I'm confused...

http://www.daylightondemand.org/ ... (featuring...Sam Seder)

http://www.myspace.com/radiofreedoghouse

So Afraid
Submitted by Sir Real

I downloaded all of Stravansky's music to listen to... :)

*

*

Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.
-Albert Einstein

The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once.
-Albert Einstein

Reshuffling the Deck Chairs on the National Review cruise.
Submitted by dada

toni really said those things...

and what a crumby thing to c&p a private convo.

bridge is prim & wild to the max

(she filled the breach left by wanda)

many ♥'s for toni & bridge

I'll second that.

Anonymous Coward

-many ♥'s for toni & bridge-

*

& since we're on it..I appreciate you being miffed at the anonymi for being fucked up to me...but ...like I told my mother about the F word...it's JUST words...I guess one of the attractions for me here is observing how I react or don't to words...

Moon cycles....

Could you imagine?
Submitted by dada on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 9:15pm.

Could you imagine a news team on Air America that received it's news from somewhere other than the usual sources, maybe a new progressive newswire, or something.

Yeah, me neither.

*

With Janeane being a hostess..I DID imagine that at first....

my last pic link post

PMS
Submitted by Fernando

:)

Fernando you are a very brave or very foolish man.

You know I'm stupid to the point of static. Come on now.

Besides, what's the worst that can happen? ToniD come over and kick my ass?

So what, both her and bridge could tell me to leave and I would. If it bring's em back, who cares?

I must ditto with MMRules, ToniD. I don't know you but I have been reading your posts. You have real people out here too, not just the wack instigators, who only want attention. There have been some vile bloggers who have expressed their innermost, loathsome feelings for "my type" (Liberal), with the same type of bigoted language that has been spewed by Ann Coulter. Please don't any any asshole's rhetoric silence you, okay?

Janice Brown

the final curtain
Submitted by air-ono on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 10:58pm.
my last pic link post

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http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2007/06/fairness-doctrine.html

Fairness Doctrine?

by shamanic

I guess I misunderstood the Fairness Doctrine. I understood it to mean that news organizations, such as the 30 minutes the networks devote each evening, would be required to give equal time to all sides.

Today the House killed a measure that would have required talk radio stations and networks to balance a Rush Limbaugh broadcast with a Sam Seder broadcast.

That seems very intrusive to me. Rush and Sam are entertainers and pundits, not journalists. Journalists do have an obligation to the public to present balanced work (though even this has been eaten away, in particular by a court ruling that Fox News won, finding that news organizations are not required to report the truth. Pretty amazing, no?) While talk radio does use the public airways, I would hazard to guess that every market that carries Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity also has a public radio station providing balanced coverage of the news for those who care about that sort of thing.

And I was only recently making fun of Jeff Goldstein for running with the "Democrats will legislate talk radio away!" story. Apparently he had a few kernels of truth in there after all.

Found via Allahpundit.

-
"I have had it (with these motherfuckin' snakes)." (link below)
-
http://www.daylightondemand.org/ ... (featuring Samuel L. Jackson, Sam Seder, Randi Rhodes, Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy ... & others)
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SR. dang.

...

The thumping of the bass could be heard through the main-floor reading rooms Tuesday evening as a three-member band rocked the New Britain Public Library.

The High Strung, a Detroit-based band that sounds like the Beatles with a funkier edge, played a 12-song, one-hour set to about 50 library patrons of all ages. The basement concert kicked off the library's summer programming for teenagers.
...

walk into a library so I've never heard music in one.

Librarian's were the first to question the searching.

Vic Ferrari
Submitted by dada on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 9:56pm.
Sorry, no pic. But here's a video
http://www.tubearoo.com/articles/87038/Taxi_Vic_Ferrari.html

You're officially Reference Librarian material now.. thanks!

But since accountability is at an all time low here, I figure why the hell should I bother to sign in.

Wev. Here is who I think our nasty anonymous poster truly is ..

spittle from my monitor now....

kicked butt on DN this morning...
http://www.archive.org/download/dn2007-0628/dn2007-0628-1_64kb.mp3

"What's the depth of your love for everyday people..." -Tavi Smiley

"Run on what you're for,not just what you are against" - Gov of somewhere...

has been flagged as potential spam. It will not be visible until the site administrator has a chance to review it.//

(ok)

"the system is working"

(random images begin)

unkown prostitute

unknown umbrella

white

connie's clitoris

bridge

toni

cat chew

dada

: )

skull

wisdom

outback

torture

fart

warped

sailing

ketchup

that's a relaxing thing to do here...imo.....

night.....oxxo

borat

bush

why

motorcycle

nudes

back to my corner

(random images end)

nor the prior anon animosity & its reasons for ... on this thread, ... the whole thing, of course, went over his tiny little big head. (and he read the thread slowly)

However, he is very sorry for the hurt feelings caused by whomever it was.
(for what it's worth)

But, someeone alluded to Nobody posting repeatedly earlier, anonymously.

That's not supposedly his m.o.
He has always maintained he would never post anonymously.
Since the love dealer doesn't know he's changed his mind, he would like to take him at his prior word.

And the love dealer chooses to give him the benefit of the doubt
since he likes him
& doesn't have enough information to think differently.

(But, then again, the love dealer thought Stephen Sherrill might be War Dog, 'til he was convinced differently by people like EB.)

Anyway.

Much love to everybody.

(P.S. ... I wish Sir Real would lay off the bongwater.)

I'm leaving town, baby
I'm leaving town for sure
Well, then you won't be bothered with me
Hanging 'round your door

Well, that's all right, that's all right.
That's all right now mama
Anyway you do...
Hoo

~♪♪~

drats!

[This user has been removed by the user.]

There must be something in the water
Submitted by SEDER on Thu, 06/28/2007 - 9:52am.

___________________________

I would like to welcome bloggers to Beluthahatchee.

"Beluthahatchee" is one of my favorite folklore stories by Zora Neale Hurston.

It is included in the book entitled,

"Go Gator and Muddy the Water: Writings by Zora Neale Hurston from the Federal Writers' Project."

______________________________________________________________

"BELUTHAHATCHEE"

This is a country where all unpleasant doings and sayings are forgotten. It is a land of forgiveness.

When a woman throws up to her man something that happened in the past (some act that he has perpetuated against happiness), he may merely reply,

"I thought that was in Beluthahatchee."

(I thought that was forgiven and forgotten long ago.)

Under other circumstances one person may say to another,

"Oh, that’s in Beluthahatchee."

(That is already forgotten. Don’t mention it. I hold nothing against you.)

This place is "the sea of forgetfulness where nothing may rise to accuse me in this world, nor condemn me in the judgment."

THE END

good to read ya!

No, n hasn't been here. Just thought you might like to know that.

And the members of the supergroup "Shit Marauders" were scientifically chosen because the fans of Lou Reed, Brian Eno, and the rest are particularly stiff, and take their fandom very seriously, putting their heroes on a higher pedestal than others. So it's fun to take shots at these idols, even more than your usual shot taking at idols.

And since you insist on bringing up Andy, I thought I'd like to mention that Andy didn't like Lou either. Andy wrote in his diary "I hate Lou. I really do."

And as soon as Andy died, Lou became "friends" with him again. Way to go, Lou.

John Zorn is the fifth Shit Marauder.

Oh yeah? well, a 93086uunvfj3ifmiwfjl4fwlcj to you too, buddy.

"Miihaa" is a pejorative term targeted towards superficial women (and more recently men as well) who are engrossed in low-culture like celebrities, sports, astrology, ghosts, and blood-types and who show no real interest in education or culture.

The term began to be used around the same time that Ooya Souichi [famed post-war journalist and critic] came up with his idea of 「一億総白痴化」 [literally, The Dumbing Down of One Hundred Million - a comment on the mass media's vulgarization of culture] in the mid-50s as television began to diffuse into society.

Over time, the word has retained its pejorative edge, but seems to have adapted to changes in the nature of elitism. At first, "Miihaa" was meant to disparage women who found too much interest in low culture and the mass media. The sex specificity is important here: the educated male elites no doubt saw the roots of this problem with mass culture in some deficient aspect of femininity. Or they rejected interest in the common culture as an improper fit with traditional female roles.

Over the last several decades, however, the term has become sex-neutral. The problem implied in "miihaa" has shifted from a general problematic interest in low culture to the callousness of being interested in a specific pop culture item solely because it is popular. In other words, consumer culture itself is no longer a problem: the offense stems from a lack of personal judgment about the value of the item in question. There is now an "elite" way to consume that is one-step ahead of the public (世間) and a "mass" unsophisticated way to consume that puts the social participation aspects of consumerism/fandom ahead of the personal definition aspects of consumerism/fandom.

How's Paris doing?

Okay, thanks dada. I didn't think Nobody had visited.
His writing is fairly recognizable.
The only one I might mistake it with is yours.
You guys are both well-read and articulate, with good spelling.
And sometimes ornery.

Exactly how was it that some sort of "scientific method" could detect these five artists' fans? I know that they all haunt your stomping grounds of NYC, and you might have a more direct perspective, but...

Also, were you bashing the artists or their fans?

As for Andy Warhol: My understanding was that he was a vindictive, petty, whining little insecure weasel in his diaries.
He said mean shit about everyone close to him. I'd rather be friends with him when he was dead, too.

Never heard of John Zorn, but according to wikipedia... he had a 20 second song called "igneous ejaculation."
That should count for something.

eya voxxer!
Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Fri, 06/29/2007 - 1:24am.
good to read ya!

_________________

Sunshine Jim,
Thanks and "bee" well!

I imagine you are keeping busy with your playful pups and the buzzing bees.

--------------

"Make the world better. Take the meanness out of people’s hearts."

-From "The Secret Life of Bees" by Sue Monk Kidd

It's always good to have something to make fun of. Like yoko, or Lou Reed. I really don't dislike them, but i pretend to. Except lou reed. I really dislike that pompous blowhard. And fluxus. Bunch of pretentious boorish whores.
heh..
Posted by: dadalux at April 8, 2005 06:48 PM
i'm angry about the biscuit.
you should always have someone to make fun of. yoko makes it easy. fluxus is dada for retards.
~~~~
was it john or yoko? i don't remember the whole story, but i think it was yoko. i'll have to look it up later. i'll get back to you on that one tomorrow. or you can look it up yourself too, i guess.
~~~~
i have an idea for an anti-supergroup i want to put together, it's going to be yoko, lou reed, brian eno, and steve vai
we're calling the band "the shit marauders"
~~~
Yoko "woke John up to himself."
Posted by: Yes. at July 19, 2005 08:17 PM
i think it was the acid that did that. sorry, yoko
Posted by: dada at July 19, 2005 8:31 PM

I like adrian belew, also.
"Big Electric Cat"

OM bhur bhuvah svah tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi dhiyo
yo nah pracodayat.

...as a cadaver.

http://mingle2.com/cadaver-calculator

Makes you put the money you paid for your college education into perspective, doesn't it?

OM bhur bhuvah svah tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi dhiyo
yo nah pracodayat.

Steve Vai Played in Alcatrazz after Yngwie left.
Steve Vai later joined The Shit Marauders, with Brian Eno, Lou Reed and Yoko Ono.
Bet you didn't know that.
Posted by: dada at October 28, 2006 12:40 AM

Nope. I sure didn't. That's almost unbelievable. But, I'll take your word for it.
I can only imagine what the Shit Marauders would've sounded like.
Posted by: Anonymous Cowherder at October 28, 2006 12:47 AM

So your list of mocked & despised musicians is getting longer I see...
Posted by: A. at October 28, 2006 12:45 AM

Nope, that was always the supergroup.
Something about the name the Shit Marauders is really making me laugh out loud right now.
Posted by: dada at October 28, 2006 12:56 AM

so, since I'm the neophyte, ... does that mean that my leg's being pulled regarding the Shit Marauders?
Posted by: Anonymous Cowherder at October 28, 2006 1:08 AM

does that mean that my leg's being pulled regarding the Shit Marauders?
Posted by: Anonymous Cowherder at October 28, 2006 1:08 AM

dada's a tripper...so who knows really...Just keep making him crack up and let's write Shit Marauder over & over... :)
Posted by: A. at October 28, 2006 1:15 AM

does that mean that my leg's being pulled regarding the Shit Marauders?
Posted by: Anonymous Cowherder at October 28, 2006 1:08 AM

I thought the Shit Marauders too preposterous to have to qualify them as absurdist humor.
... Now I'm not sure if you're pulling my leg.
hm...
Posted by: dada at October 28, 2006 1:25 AM

...to (anti) supergroup status?

I will check back tomorrow in hopes of finding out,
and in the interim,
I will try not to dream about 8 piss-stained Warhol paintings stacked in the shape of a cross.

And if I do have such a dream,
I will try not to figure out what it means.

Thanks, dada.

G'nite everybody.

"Exactly how was it that some sort of "scientific method" could detect these five artists' fans?"

It was very simple, actually. We used the carbon dating method.

"Also, were you bashing the artists or their fans?"

Well, that depends on what kind of mood I'm in.

"My understanding was that he was a vindictive, petty, whining little insecure weasel in his diaries."

Who said that. I bet it was Lou.

Here's the John Zorn uncyclopedia page

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/John_Zorn

"8 piss-stained Warhol paintings stacked in the shape of a cross."

That's the name of a Dali painting. Bet you didn't know that.

Night Sir Real

Heya c-sea.

My dead body was only worth $4225

It's just not worth it. I think I'll cryogenically freeze my brain, and have the rest pressed into diamonds or something.

Mine's worth $5825 - because of the defibrillator, I guess. If I were a blind albino junk-food eating child with elepantitis and no appendix, I'd be worth a fortune.

OM bhur bhuvah svah tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi dhiyo
yo nah pracodayat.

the more problems you have, the more the cadaver collectors will pay for you.

Paul is worth $3940 - hardly worth bumping off for a vacation.

OM bhur bhuvah svah tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi dhiyo
yo nah pracodayat.

oop... Andy's calling on the bat phone. I really should take this call.

Later...

I hope that cheers someone up.

goodnight everyone~

OM bhur bhuvah svah tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi dhiyo
yo nah pracodayat.

was just yakkin with N.

was'nt him upbloggie.

did have an interesting yak though.

.

Everything's porn, porn, porn, sex, sex, sex. Is the Internet great or what?!
:)

The Lie House has asserted executive privilege in refusing Congressional subpoenas. When can WE invoke "Will-of-the-American-People Privilege" to throw these lying bastards behind bars? Just curious.

.

Hello!

http://www.counterpunch.org/williams06282007.html

Hey, just a note from the author of the linked post--there are massive factual errors in it, such as the fact that Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) introduced this amendment which prohibits the FCC from funding a Fairness Doctrine. This wasn't Dem legislation at all, and the House didn't "kill[] a measure" as I originally wrote.

I've corrected the piece at Newshoggers, and while I appreciate the link to my post, I'm ashamed that it's a link to one that I got so wrong.

RE: Alice @ 11:16pm

Hey, just a note from the author of the linked post--there are massive factual errors in it, such as the fact that Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) introduced this amendment which prohibits the FCC from funding a Fairness Doctrine. This wasn't Dem legislation at all, and the House didn't "kill[] a measure" as I originally wrote.

I've corrected the piece at Newshoggers, and while I appreciate the link to my post, I'm ashamed that it's a link to one that I got so wrong.

(http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2007/06/fairness-doctrine.html)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama laid out list of political shortcomings he sees in the Bush administration but said he opposes impeachment for either President George W. Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney.

Obama said he would not back such a move, although he has been distressed by the "loose ethical standards, the secrecy and incompetence" of a "variety of characters" in the administration.

"There's a way to bring an end to those practices, you know: vote the bums out," the presidential candidate said, without naming Bush or Cheney. "That's how our system is designed."

The term for Bush and Cheney ends on Jan. 20, 2009. Bush cannot constitutionally run for a third term, and Cheney has said he will not run to succeed Bush.

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breeches, and intentional breeches of the president's authority," he said.

"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus."

can't win

Interview - Brad Bird, Brad Lewis, Patton Oswalt & Janeane Garofalo (”Ratatouille”)

...
Bird would not have heard the album, however, if he had not been a fan of the liberal radio network, Air America, where he was a fan of Janeane Garofalo, who was at the time on Worcester native Sam Seder’s daily show.
...

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--The linked article is wrong as written and now updated
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 06/29/2007 - 9:43am.--

Thanks for stopping in with the correction...

Dear House Democrats

...
To say the talk radio is tantamount to Paris Hilton is not only an insult to people who know its power, but dangerous to the health of Democrats in 2008 and beyond. Then of course, there are the wonderful hosts like Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller, The Young Turks, Rachel Maddow, Sam Seder, Randy Rhodes and so many others who are still trying to expand their listener base, not to mention others trying to stay on the air or get back on the air. Seriously, how many elections do we have to lose to understand that satellite and web radio are just groovy, but the real democratic numbers come from flipping on the old terrestrial radio dial? Remember Clinton impeachment? The swiftboating of John Kerry? Both worked similarly to the immigration smackdown, with all the wingnut grooves working in sync. Catching on to how this works?

An issue arises. Blogs get activated. Legislators are engaged. Enter talk radio with tens of millions of listeners... but only if it's a conversative issue. Liberal action stops before the talk radio engagement, because no matter how good our talkers are they only have a small fraction of the outreach of the wingnuts on terrestrial radio, complimented by Christian broadcasting. We have two out of three cogs of the machine, while conservatives have all three and have since the early 1990s. Getting this down? Because when all cylinders of this machine are engaged the opposition -- that would be us -- doesn't have a prayer.
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Submitted by dada on Fri, 06/29/2007 - 1:46am.
"Miihaa" is a pejorative term targeted towards superficial women (and more recently men as well) who are engrossed in low-culture like celebrities, sports, astrology, ghosts, and blood-types and who show no real interest in education or culture...
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Throughout my lifetime I have wrestled with the Pop Culture issue. When I was young there was no question; I must know what is what. Who wouldn't want to know who Jim Morrison is? Later People magazine was launched, giving unimportant information an imprimeur of legitimacy. Still, it was undeniably tawdry. As the years passed I began to argue with myself:

Me: "I need to know this Pop Culture stuff so that I will get the Late Night jokes."
Myself: "It's too petty to waste your limited intellect on."
Me: "But there are good musicians and good actors and bad O.J. Simpsonses who make a difference in our societies."
Myself: "Galileo made a difference. How much do you know about him?"
Me: But...but...the Paris Hilton phenomenon is so goddammed FUNNY!"
Myself: "You are defending following Pop Culture so that you can make fun of following Pop Culture?"
Me: "Well...yeah...sort of..."
Myself: That's kind of a tautology, don't you think?"
Me: "Wait. I need to look that up. I forgot what a tautology is."
Myself: "That's what happens. The Pop Culture information shoved it out of storage. You have a limited amount of space."
Me: "Maybe I can rent one of those pseudo-garages next to a strip mall?"
Myself: "Paris is gonna want something more elegant."
Me: "That's funny! I'm gonna write that down."
Myself: "Stop it. Just stop it."

The gutless cowards of Congress, a majority of whom are on the Big Pharma payroll or will be on it once they leave Congress, have delegated their lawmaking powers granted by the U.S. Constitution to a bunch of Big Pharma-friendly unelected bureaucrats at the FDA, who are in turn using this power to undermine free commerce and help Big Pharma eliminate competition from the market.......

http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron36.htm
by Byron Richards, CCN

I wonder if George is in the gym getting ready for his big date?

TO ALLOW 38 NON-ORGANIC INGREDIENTS & TOXIC FISH OIL IN FOODS LABELED AS "USDA ORGANIC"

Basically ignoring more than ten thousand emails and letters from consumers and farmers opposing the latest industry-sponsored attack on organic standards, the USDA has approved a proposal allowing 38 new non-organic ingredients to be allowed in products bearing the "USDA Organic" seal. But the agency says this may just be interim approval, and has offered to extend the public comment period another 60 days (the original public comment period was only 7 days). The USDA's controversial proposal will result in the following:

Anheuser Busch will be allowed to sell its "Organic Wild Hops Beer" without using any organic hops at all.

Sausages, brats, and breakfast links labeled as "USDA Organic" will be allowed to contain intestines from factory farmed animals raised on chemically grown feed, synthetic hormones, slaughterhouse waste, and antibiotics.

Products labeled as "USDA Organic" and containing fish oil may contain toxins such as PCBs and mercury.

Learn more and take action: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_5225.cfm

...

Chad: The Aboubakar family of Breidjing Camp
Food expenditure for one week: 685 CFA Francs or $1.23
Favorite foods: soup with fresh sheep meat
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Japan: The Ukita family of Kodaira City
Food expenditure for one week: 37,699 Yen or $317.25
Favorite foods: sashimi, fruit, cake, potato chips

iPhone Will Cost You $6,000 to Operate!!

LET'S HAVE THE BIGGEST MOVIE OPENING EVER FOR SiCKO THIS WEEKEND

Thanks to YOUR response, the sneak previews for SiCKO, the Michael
Moore health policy change advocacy movie set box office RECORDS all
around the country. Never before has the express purpose of a
blockbuster movie been to institute real and specific policy change,
and we all need to turn out to support this film as a DEMONSTRATION
of your support for H.R. 676, which would finally bring national
health care to the United States.

WHERE CAN I SEE THE FILM?: http://www.sickotix.com/

:)

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Alice Launches iRate Phone Service

You win..that's way better than irageous... :)

contract Alice?

there' a chart on the page..

I would never buy one..I don't want a cell phone...I don't understand why parents let kids have them...I would be concerned about frying their little brains....

typical for those services as long as the net comes in at EVDO or better speeds. I think a good phone is better than a top of the line laptop anyday. My VX6700 will do anything that phone will do but you have to be willing to learn how to use it. iPhone customers don't learn phone OS's at all.

Great news on the health care front!

A member of my immediate family got full reimbursement for the great treatment she received from her primary care doctor and a specialist.

Color me jealous! I thought to myself, as I pulled her check from my mailbox.

"Sit!" I told my dog, bb, the family member with the great doctors and insurance, who was trying to chew the check.

Why is my dog's healthcare so much better than mine? The question dogged me as we raced back to my apartment. So I answered it:

LINK

Morning everyone. :)

Show mp3

- Supreme Court Limits Affirmative Action in School Integration
- Immigration Bill Fails to Advance in Senate
- Admin Rejects Subpoenas on Attorney Firings
- Five U.S. Troops Killed in Iraq
- EU, US Reach Deal on Financial Spying
- Israel Expands Assault into West Bank
- Tutu Criticizes ANC Economic Policies
- FARC: 11 Hostages Killed in Military Crossfire
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In Landmark Ruling, Supreme Court Strikes Down Voluntary Desegregation in Public Schools

The narrow 5-4 ruling rejected using race as a criteria for assigning students for different schools, rejecting integration plans for school districts in Seattle, Washington and Louisville, Kentucky. We speak with NAACP Legal Defense Fund Director Ted Shaw.
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"Another World is Possible, Another U.S. Is Necessary”: Thousands of Activists Gather in Atlanta for the First-Ever U.S. Social Forum

Inspired by previous World Social Forums in Brazil, India and Kenya, over 10,000 grassroots activists have gathered in Atlanta this week for the first United States Social Forum. We begin our Atlanta coverage with Alice Lovelace, the national lead staff organizer for the U.S. Social Forum.
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South African Poet and Anti-Apartheid Activist Dennis Brutus on Atlanta Social Forum and South Africa’s Changing Political Landscape

A veteran of several World Social Forums, the South African poet and anti-apartheid activist Dennis Brutus talks about why’s he come to Atlanta, and addresses growing upheaval in South Africa where the ruling ANC government is being criticized for continuing apartheid’s economic legacy.
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Senate Votes Down White House-Backed Immigration Bill

Immigrant rights has also been a central theme of the U.S. Social Forum and many immigrant rights activists in Atlanta have been closely monitoring proposals on Capitol Hill to overhaul the nation's immigration laws. On Thursday, the Senate's immigration bill collapsed after supporters failed to get enough votes to end debate. We get reaction from Catherine Tactaquin, Director of the National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights.
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Nearly Two Years After Katrina, Gulf Coast Residents Fighting Environmental Neglect, Privatization

Twenty two months after Hurricane Katrina devastated the gulf region of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, residents are still fighting to save their communities. We speak with Monique Harden, co-director of the New Orleans-based Advocates for Environmental Human Rights, and organizer of a caravan of Katrina activists to the U.S. Social Forum this week.

Three former leaders of a ministry that counsels gays to change their sexual orientation apologized, saying although they acted sincerely, their message had caused isolation, shame and fear.

The former leaders of the interdenominational Christian organization Exodus International said Wednesday they had become disillusioned with promoting gay conversion.

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For the headline alone... Ex-ex? Sounds like I'm coughing up a furball saying it like that.

The new pics from your trip are perfect like postcards!

Just finished reading over the big hassle on the blog over the

last couple of days. TONI...if you're reading.....If you go

away, I will miss you......TERRIBLY! You are the blog's best

shortcut to what's going on! I am sure that I am just one

blogger here that loves ya!

miss anyone. She's right here:
http://abramoffjournal.blogspot.com/

Debate Thoughts by digby

I thought this was actually a much more substantive debate than what we've seen --- none of the silliness we had with Matthews and Blitzer. Good for Tavis Smiley and Howard University for hosting a dignified event. The questions were interesting and all the candidates got a chance to answer. In the end I was reminded once again how superior our field is to that freakshow they're putting up on the Republican side.

If I had to pick a winner, I think tonight was Obama's night. He seemed loose and comfortable and in charge. He certainly had the best laugh line --- after Joe Biden inexplicably felt the need to reveal that he and Barack had both been tested for AIDS, Obama played the "husband on the hot seat" perfectly, hurriedly explaining that he'd been tested with Michelle when they were both in Kenya. Big laughs. He's good.

But all these people are so much better than the non-sequitor dribbling absurdists on the Republican side that every time I see them I feel a little bit better about the future. If any of the Dem contenders make it, we will have a president who speaks normal English, in complete sentences and responds to questions fluently and with real meaning. I can't tell you what a relief that will be after these last six years of alien gibberish and bizarre, robotic responses that everyone has been pretending are normal ways of speaking.

that it was more a forum than a debate...

U.S. House Passes Bill Affirming Global Warming Exists

The House of Representatives Wednesday, aiming to put an end to the debate over whether global warming is actually occurring, passed legislation recognizing the "reality" of climate change and providing money to work on the problem.

By a vote of 272-155, the House approved an environmental funding bill for the fiscal year starting Oct. 1 that would increase federal investments in basic research on climate change and establish a new commission to review scientific questions that need to be addressed.

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by Mark Drolette / June 29th, 2007

Yet another 4th of July approaches, a holiday on which we all commemorate America’s big, shiny image of itself by emulating what it does best:

Spend lots of money to blow shit up.

It appears this’ll be my last opportunity to celebrate independence. No, I’m not dying, or getting married again. (Redundant. Sorry.)

Nope. I’m moving to Costa Rica.

Why Costa Rica?

Why not?

That’s the short answer.

Come to think of it, that’s pretty much the long answer, too.

Oh sure, there’s Costa Rica’s clean water, stunning scenery, beautiful weather, welcoming people, rich flora and fauna, high literacy rate, cheap cost of living, peaceful history…

But other than that, it doesn’t have much going for it.

Whoops, almost forgot: It’s also had no military since 1949, choosing for more than a half century to take the money it would have spent for weapons to kill people and, well, blow shit up, and apply it instead toward foo-faws like education and, horrors!, socialized medicine.

Can you imagine such folly?
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keiran
What happened on this blog that made everyone so upset?

or it will be soon, very soon.

sammy, where's the weekend talking points?

Courtesy of the NRO Site

I guess froofy named California wines aren't just for Liberals anymore, and judging by the flushed drunk in the picture, not for moderates either. Of course, the conservative message: "drink" don't "think" is loud and clear.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama laid out list of political shortcomings he sees in the Bush administration but said he opposes impeachment for either President George W. Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney.

Obama said he would not back such a move, although he has been distressed by the "loose ethical standards, the secrecy and incompetence" of a "variety of characters" in the administration.

CAMPAIGN 2008: Barack Obama

"There's a way to bring an end to those practices, you know: vote the bums out," the presidential candidate said, without naming Bush or Cheney. "That's how our system is designed."

The term for Bush and Cheney ends on Jan. 20, 2009. Bush cannot constitutionally run for a third term, and Cheney has said he will not run to succeed Bush.

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breeches, and intentional breeches of the president's authority," he said.

"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus."

wine

"fermented in older oak barrels. It’s...crisp, refreshing...a little flinty, with flavors of white stone fruit and almond paste."

I think I heard Chris Matthews describe Buckley's man-scent this way on Hardball before the run-up to the invasion.

mmm, old spice

!

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breeches, and intentional breeches of the president's authority," he said.

felony evesdropping is'nt enough?

he won't make the changes WE need, it's all about his "carreer".

since its about the most interesting thing happening in the world today, its raining, and it cool, high 70's down from 90's yesterday.

markets suck today. i think everyone must have left early to go their estates in the hamptons for the fourth.

when they said that the republicans have managed to make the democrats look like the keystone cops. its true when you think about it. the dems have no leadership and they feed on themselves whenever anyone takes a stand against evil.

Thom doing a survey on prez hopefuls.

Gore Kucinich for me...

no Hil votes!

think corporate candidates doing rather poorly, peeps want change.

London streets closed in panic over bombs

June 30, 2007

POLICE cordoned off part of a major road in central London due to reports of a second suspicious vehicle late last night, hours after a massive explosive device was defused in the capital.

Amid heightened security after the earlier bomb alert, television pictures showed traffic disrupted around Park Lane, next to Hyde Park, while Sky News reported that a red London tourist bus had been stopped.

Just listening to Hartmann where he let listeners call in and state who they would vote for if the primary was today.
Not one caller mentioned Hillary. Kucinich did very well, as did Gore, Edwards and then Obama. Interesting when corporate media is not involved in polling.
How are you Toni? Miss you here.

Don't worry, I can dump our conversation.

Cheney's eavesdropping on those pesky Londoners now?

Apples and Oranges.

Pathetic to link the two.

too quiet. afternoon gbc.

We're busy terrorizing ourselves by being afraid of everything, all the time, 24/7.

Isn't that what the root of terrorism is all about?

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I cannot believe how much Vancouver has changed since the last time I was there... how the skyline has grown!

Think were gonna come up for the 2010 Olympics. :)

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Expose The Obstructionists

[...] In its first 40 hours, the new majority of the House of Representatives kept their promise to voters and passed legislation—increasing the minimum wage for the first time in a decade, empowering Medicare to negotiate lower prices on drugs, cutting interest rates on student loans in half, revoking big oil subsidies and using the money to invest in renewable energy—that provided a down payment for a new direction for this country.

These bills are overwhelmingly popular, and are simply common sense reforms. Yet every one of them—and many more—got held up in the U.S. Senate.

Conservatives boast about the “success” of their strategy in discrediting the new majority. As Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott, R-Miss., put it, “the strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail. So far it’s working for us.”

How is it working? It’s dragging the reputation of the Congress down to the level of the failed president. Conservatives lie in the road of progress and then complain that nothing is moving.

The birth of the Beatles

It is 50 years since the legendary first meeting of Paul McCartney and John Lennon, and a cynic might be forgiven for wondering why anybody cares.

In the age of the iPod, do the Beatles still matter? Of course they do, just as any other great artists - Shakespeare, Rembrandt, Mozart - still matter.

The comparison is meant only half in jest. Even a skeptical historian like me, born four years after the band broke up and professionally wary of misty-eyed veterans of the 1960s, has to acknowledge the Beatles' astonishing global appeal. Their music is played and loved on every street corner in the world, and yet its origins could hardly have been less prepossessing.

When Paul McCartney wandered down to the Woolton church fête in Liverpool on July 6, 1957, he was an ordinary 15-year-old who had grown up in suburban English obscurity.

He had heard stories about an amateur teenage group called the Quarrymen, headed by a local grammar-school boy called John Lennon, 16 years old, who were supposed to be playing that afternoon; and he was also on the lookout for pretty girls.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/29/opinion/edsandbrook.php

Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:03PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A particularly serious form of the sexually transmitted bacterial disease syphilis has been detected in gay and bisexual U.S. men infected with the AIDS virus, federal health officials reported on Thursday.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tracked 49 HIV-infected gay and bisexual men who had "symptomatic early neurosyphilis" from January 2002 to June 2004 in four cities -- Los Angeles, San Diego, Chicago, New York.

The CDC cited the report as further evidence that gay and bisexual men, many also infected with HIV, are the driving force behind increases in U.S. syphilis cases this decade.

http://www.theosophical.ca/JungKrishnamurti.htm

Submitted by Janet on Fri, 06/29/2007 - 1:35pm.

Which is why, rather than being a referendum on Hillary's "unpopularity" with the Hard Left....

is proof that the Hard Left is a SMALL part of the Democratic Party, given Hillary still has a DOUBLE-DIGIT lead over her opponents, from Kucinich to even Obama and Edwards.

Don't isolate yourselves with this "not good enough" attitude against Senator Clinton. Nobody wants to replay Nader and 2000!

Quiet indeed.

I'll miss bouncin' boobies w/ toni today. Oh well.

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It's FRIDAY, ya BASTARDS!

{{{Bounce yer Boobies Everybody!}}}

Bridge is the real victim on this blog. It's Bridge that I hope returns. I hope she shows she can not be run off by backroom attacks and plots.

That's a keeper, troll. It's about time you marshmallows came up with a label with a little truth to it, even if you didn't mean to.

guy comes over to see if my 48 dodge is for sale.

THEN LEAVES THE GATE WIDE OPEN AND RUZZ AND JAXXOR TAKE OFF!

hour and a half later i chase em down...

delighted they're back.

i'm pooped out.

everyone should read this .. to me it the stuff just out of reach, but .. when I first heard bob dylan or read stienbeck, and if you think it's newage stuff please find a cast iorn frying pan and hit your self hard and repeat not to crack the skull but intill you see lil birdys , get down to a blak slate , or maybe insatant satori

http://www.theosophical.ca/JungKrishnamurti.htm