Just occurred to me

The oughts are over. Good riddance.

UPDATE: it is now 2010...not 2009... FYI

New threads are not showing up on front page?

Hmmm. Well, it's the thought that counts.
Have a great year, SEDER, and please get podcasting!
Miss hearing you.
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Stars misaligned
Submitted by SEDER on Wed, 12/23/2009 - 8:28pm.
I can't even begin to tell you the problems I am experiencing with all things mechanical or technical.

He wasn't kidding...

The date at the top here

also says 01/02/09 8:09 AM

And CC's post reads 01/02/10 7:27 am

toniD's Ya Think?

01 02 2010...heh - a palindrome.

Time Warp...

That 2009 date explains why the thread is not showing up on the home page....it is being sorted in the server next to last years threads...

Palin-drome...hmmm... I'll leave that one to Crank....

R we on the right page

I'm a little bit confused -

could be

sammy just typed the wrong date, 09 instead of 10: common mistake at the beginning of every new year; this misdating generally lasts the first couple of weeks in january; know it for a fact based on experience at the office

i started in december when i was dating staff for the new year, kept writing 09 where it should have been 2010

and could be this simple typo is causing the disappearence glitch

mire? mire?

You were here a second ago, now I see you are over here.

yep maggiesboy

i am bouncing around a la fat idiot limbaugh

(can you believe that asshole, by the way? has us all "worried" for nothing?)

i have three windows open one for each new thread, it's getting tiresome and i may take a nap soon

happy new year {mb}

Pictured: Shanghai Bridge Made of Rubbish Collapses

sankakucomplex.com

Citizens of Shanghai are aghast at the collapse of a major new bridge, pictured, which was revealed to be constructed partially out of rubbish instead of concrete.

The bridge, spanning the Wusong River in central Shanghai, was completed in 2009 and replaced a century old bridge with a more modern design.

However, after only a short period in operation the bridge began to collapse, with investigators finding such sturdy construction materials as bags of rubbish, Styrofoam, scrap wood and waste plastic used in the structure in place of reinforced concrete.

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Science-gate

See who else is behind the "Climate-gate" emails that were release right before the Copenhagen climate summit.

DrugRush Limbaugh's 10 Dumbest Remarks

Rush Limbaugh's 10 Dumbest Remarks

by Christopher Bateman | March 31, 2009

Rush Limbaugh’s three-decade career in radio has produced some of the dumbest statements ever uttered. To coincide with Michael Wolff’s article on Limbaugh from the new issue, VF.com presents a list of the schlock jock’s 10 most asinine pronouncements:

1. “There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease.”

2. “Columbus saved the Indians from themselves.”

3. "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

4. “[African Americans] are twelve percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”

5. “Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentlemen, a worthless shred of human debris.”

6. “Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.”

7. “We are a growing country and everybody needs energy! We're not going to stay the United States if we start reducing energy usage. Conservation is not the answer.”

8. To a black caller: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

9. On torture at Abu Ghraib: “This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation. And we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people—you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of need to blow some team off?”

10. “Screw the world. Do you really think we ought to govern ourselves based on what the world thinks of us?”

http://mtblog.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/03/rush-limbaughs-10-d...

When DrugRush Limbaugh is dead within 7 years, I get the feeling that he sure won't be going to heaven.

Bush/Cheney Legacy: Aughts were a lost decade for U.S. economy,

Bush/Cheney Legacy: Aughts were a lost decade for U.S. economy, workers

Washington Post

For most of the past 70 years, the U.S. economy has grown at a steady clip, generating perpetually higher incomes and wealth for American households. But since 2000, the story is starkly different.

The past decade was the worst for the U.S. economy in modern times, a sharp reversal from a long period of prosperity that is leading economists and policymakers to fundamentally rethink the underpinnings of the nation's growth.

It was, according to a wide range of data, a lost decade for American workers. The decade began in a moment of triumphalism -- there was a current of thought among economists in 1999 that recessions were a thing of the past. By the end, there were two, bookends to a debt-driven expansion that was neither robust nor sustainable.

There has been zero net job creation since December 1999. No previous decade going back to the 1940s had job growth of less than 20 percent. Economic output rose at its slowest rate of any decade since the 1930s as well.

Middle-income households made less in 2008, when adjusted for inflation, than they did in 1999 -- and the number is sure to have declined further during a difficult 2009. The Aughts were the first decade of falling median incomes since figures were first compiled in the 1960s.............

Limbaugh Lauds (Socialist) Medical Care in Hawaii

Limbaugh Lauds (Socialist) Medical Care in Hawaii

by Dr Paul Abrams | Physician, entrepreneur, biotechnology, law, economics, politics, professional iconoclast

Posted: January 2, 2010 01:59 PM

"but I think the most likely reason of all was the Grinch had a heart two sizes too small" ("How the Grinch Stole Christmas," Dr. Seuss).

According to Rush Limbaugh, the health care reform that may be passed by Congress is socialism. Yet, it bears a striking resemblance to the universal healthcare system that just treated him in Hawaii that prompted his remark: "there is nothing wrong with the American health care system. I received no special treatment."

Yes, Rush. That's the point! American medicine is superb--for those who can get it. And, in Hawaii, no one gets special treatment, because everyone can get it.

[Er, by the way, just to help you out, Rush, a fair percentage of your listeners do not know Hawaii is part of the United States, so clarify that for them...otherwise, they will wonder about you]

By accepting socialist medical treatment in Hawaii, therefore, Rush Limbaugh has shown that, when one is ill, what matters is the availability of quality health care, even if it is socialist.

Rush follows a long litany of conservatives, such as all Members of Congress that have a medical office paid for by taxpayers available in the Capitol, by Dick Cheney who had socialist pacemakers implanted paid for by the government, and George W who had a government-paid socialist colonoscopy while in office. Members of Congress over 65 get single-payer socialist medical care from Medicare.

Hawaii has had nearly-universal employer-mandated health insurance since 1974. Although its Pacific Island location makes the costs of everything--from gasoline to milk to ice cream to housing--the highest in the nation, health care premiums in Hawaii, for comprehensive care with small co-pays and deductibles, are nearly the lowest and their costs per medicare beneficiary are the lowest in the nation.

Why? There are a variety of reasons, most traceable to universality. With everyone covered by primary care, emergency room visits tend to be for real emergencies, not the non-emergent care mainland ERs dispense for people without coverage. That reduces the costs of ERs and the costs of non-emergent medicine since patients can be handled less expensively and more effectively by their primary docs. Hospitals have not overbuilt, acquiring expensive machines to compete with their neighbors for patients. Insurance companies have instituted screening and other measures to improve wellness among their covered populations.

We can all be pleased that Rush appears to have survived his encounter with socialist medical care. He seems to be very happy himself, commenting on the results of a socialist angiogram that showed no disease in the arteries that feed his heart muscle.

Now, of course, Rush does not live in Hawaii and so his costs are not covered by the Hawaiian insurance system, but having that "socialist" system for more than 3 decades has not reduced the quality of the care he received. Who would have thunk it!

If Hawaii-style medical care is good enough for Rush Limbaugh, it is good enough for me.

Thanks Rush, and with it my hopes that your medical insurance covers all your costs and that the greatest country in the world can make that same care available to everyone.

Happy New Year!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/limbaugh-lauds-socialist_b_409...

Irish Atheists Protest "Blasphemy" Law

Campaign for a Secular Irish Constitution

Today is International Blasphemy Day, administered by the Center For Inquiry as part of its Campaign for Free Expression. Atheist Ireland is an advocacy group for an ethical and secular Ireland: see details in these Irish Times articles on the Irish blasphemy law and our first AGM.

Atheist Ireland is seeking your help today to launch and shape a new long-term campaign with two important aims: to repeal the new Irish blasphemy law and to attain a secular Irish Constitution. Specifically, we are asking you to do three things: send us a message of support, get actively involved in shaping this project, and lobby to persuade Irish politicians to pursue these policies.

We will soon be holding public meetings around Ireland to launch this campaign. We want it to include religious and nonreligious people working together, within Ireland and with international support. The campaign has one common aim that transcends any other differences we may have: that all Irish citizens, of all beliefs and none, can live together in equality, with the State being neutral on matters of religion.

In recent decades, several independent and all-party committees (most whose members were Christians) have repeatedly called for an end to discrimination against nonreligious citizens in our Constitution. Not only has this not been done, but a new religious crime has now been created. The blasphemy law is the final straw. We need a secular Irish Constitution, and we need it now. Please help to make this happen......................

Atheist Ireland Publishes 25 Blasphemous Quotes

From today, 1 January 2010, the new Irish blasphemy law becomes operational, and we begin our campaign to have it repealed. Blasphemy is now a crime punishable by a €25,000 fine.

In response, we have published a list of 25 blasphemous quotes, which have previously been published by or uttered by or attributed to Jesus Christ, Muhammad, Mark Twain, Tom Lehrer, Randy Newman, James Kirkup, Monty Python, Rev Ian Paisley, Conor Cruise O’Brien, Frank Zappa, Salman Rushdie, Bjork, Amanda Donohoe, George Carlin, Paul Woodfull, Jerry Springer the Opera, Tim Minchin, Richard Dawkins, Pope Benedict XVI, Christopher Hitchens, PZ Myers, Ian O’Doherty, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor and Dermot Ahern.

You can read the quotes on the website here:

'Lifeless' prion proteins are 'capable of evolution'

BBC

Scientists have shown for the first time that "lifeless" prion proteins, devoid of all genetic material, can evolve just like higher forms of life.

The Scripps Research Institute in the US says the prions can change to suit their environment and go on to develop drug resistance.

Prions are associated with 20 different brain diseases in humans and animals.

The scientists say their work suggests new approaches might be necessary to develop therapies for these diseases.

In the study, published in the journal Science, the scientists transferred prion populations from brain cells to other cells in culture and observed the prions that adapted to the new cellular environment out-competed their brain-adapted counterparts.

When returned to the brain cells, the brain-adapted prions again took over the population..........

Cities, counties take back corporate tax breaks

CHICAGO – Cash-strapped communities have a message for corporations that promised jobs in return for tax breaks: A deal's a deal.

As the economy sputters along, municipalities struggling to fix roads, fund schools and pay bills increasingly are rescinding tax abatements to companies that don't hire enough workers, that lay them off or that close up shop. At the same time, they're sharpening new incentive deals, leaving no doubt what is expected of companies and what will happen if they don't deliver.

"We will roll out the red carpet as much as we can (but) they are going to honor the contract," said Brendon Gallagher, an alderman in DeKalb, Ill., where Target Corp. got abatements from the city, county, school district and other taxing bodies after promising at least 500 jobs at a local distribution center.

So when the company came up 66 workers short in 2009, Target got word its next tax bill would be jumping almost $600,000 — more than half of which goes to the local school district, where teachers and programs have been cut as coffers dried up...........

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What up Sederville © 2010?

Hola! I thought 2010 might be a little better, but there are so many things going on that ALL need dire attention. I agree with Seder: The oughts are over. Good riddance.

But I read this item at Global Research and any HOPE I had for 2010 was quickly vanquished.

Forecast 2010: The Center does Not Hold...But Neither Does the Floor

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    The great muddlement out there, this inability to form a coherent consensus about what's happening, is especially frightening when, as is the case today, even the intelligent elites appear clueless or patently dishonest, in any case unreliable, in their relations with reality. President Obama, for instance - a charming, articulate man, with a winning smile, pectorals like Kansas City strip steaks, and a mandate for "change" - who speaks incessantly and implausibly of "the recovery" when all the economic vital signs tell a different story except for some obviously manipulated stock market indexes. You hear this enough times and you can't help but regard it as lying, and even if it is lying ostensibly for the good of the nation, it is still lying about what is actually going on and does much harm to the project of building a coherent consensus. I submit that we would benefit more if we acknowledged what is really happening to us because only that will allow us to respond intelligently. What prior state does Mr. Obama suppose we're recovering to? A Potemkin housing boom and an endless credit card spending orgy? The lying spreads downward from the White House and broadly across the fruited plain and the corporate office landscape and through the campuses and the editorial floors and the suites of absolutely everyone in charge of everything until all leadership in every field of endeavor has been given permission to speak untruth and to reinforce each others lies and illusions.

    How dysfunctional is our nation? These days, we lie to ourselves perhaps as badly the Soviets did, and in a worse way, because where information is concerned we really are a freer people than they were, so our failure is far less excusable, far more disgraceful. That you are reading this blog is proof that we still enjoy free speech in this country, whatever state of captivity or foolishness the so-called "mainstream media" may be in. By submitting to lies and illusions, therefore, we are discrediting the idea that freedom of speech and action has any value. How dangerous is that?
    ~

Much more at link. Do read.

And if you're interested in "holding your enemies closer" in the form of the Beltway Media Complex and just have to rubberneck that accident on the other side of the freeway...
BRICK TEEVEE HELLO 2010!
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/5576

Here's to a safe secure happy determined 2010!
DIG IN! GET ACTIVE!

MOVE YOUR MONEY

from link on FR's blog - thx

type in your zip - find a local bank
http://moveyourmoney.info/

~`ordinary's just not good enough today - olp`~
Jamesbenet

Blue Roots Radio

Thanks James..

I put it "Move Your Money" on my blog.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

MMRules

Yikes. Anything to save the meat industry? And create a new

Submitted by Kevin © on Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:54pm.
BBC

Scientists have shown for the first time that "lifeless" prion proteins, devoid of all genetic material, can evolve just like higher forms of life.

The Scripps Research Institute in the US says the prions can change to suit their environment and go on to develop drug resistance.

Prions are associated with 20 different brain diseases in humans and animals.

The scientists say their work suggests new approaches might be necessary to develop therapies for these diseases.

In the study, published in the journal Science, the scientists transferred prion populations from brain cells to other cells in culture and observed the prions that adapted to the new cellular environment out-competed their brain-adapted counterparts.

When returned to the brain cells, the brain-adapted prions again took over the population..........

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Do I smell lucrative NEW moneystream here, syphoning off more research and tax monies?

Wow, very interesting. However, once these disease issues (man-made disease issues?) enter the "Science is making a cure" realm, the tone becomes quasi-religious, imo.

Big article, but not one word about trans-species problems with prions or a peep about MadCowDisease? All that (meaning people/corporations being resonsponsible for making a profit while tainting the food supply) is behind us now?

Are we headed in the same direction that the cancer research has taken us -- 1/ growing rates of disease, 2/ constant fanfares about cures being possible, even imminent, 3/ decades before we figure out alot of scamming has been going on ('disease profiteering' might be the term).

Are prion diseases the next big profit stream?

I'm feeling skeptical about this "prions can be useful" stuff. Maybe it is because I heard about the way cancer stats have been manipulated to make it look like conventional medical practices and drugs are valid/successful, when they actually are LESS effective than a placebo! (Check out-- http://www.naturalnews.com/024948_cancer_health_brst_cancer.html -- for info on his book and film.) Will this same FORMULA be applied to prion disease eventually?

Hear is an interview on that cancer information from author Mike Anderson as broadcast on Go Vegan Radio:

http://www.goveganradio.com/veg/1009/Listen_Online.htm

I've been observing for years the emphasis/publicity given to expected cures through conventional cancer research alongside the half-hearted efforts to stop the continued/contributing environmental problems and pollution in the cancer picture. It's really odd.

So will the same formula now beapplied to prions? How long will it take to deal with prion disease realisticly? Isn't there suspicion that Alzheimers patients are actually prion disease victims? I sense articles like this one will continue to separate the citizens from the contents of their wallets on all the needed 'research' on cures.

(Prions connected to the word "evolve". How quaint. I read this 16 years ago when science determined that prions were evident in the blood, spleen and brains of cannibals, also in non-carnivorous farm animals forced to eat feeds made with animal body parts. Yup, the victims' tissues 'evolved' to contain prions and suffer with prion disease. Bleh.)

Just shaking my head & rolling my eyes ... Tea Cheers...

Just taking a break...
;):|

Today on Ya Think?

Of course they don't know it yet but...

Today we're riffing on Hertzberg's BookTV talk on Obamanos, topics filibusters & popular elections 9 a.m. EST

Good stuff on where we are and why and 2 doable fixes that we should all be rallying behind.

Sometime around 9. Will be going live in a few minutes.

move your money

my money has been in a community bank since 1997; i have been so satisfied with their services that i have resisted all temptations to change; been lured endlessly by major banks ofering cash for me to move over to them ($100 if you transfer your account to us, said chase, i said, no way)

this is why

when i returned to the US in 1997 after living in Italy 1995-97 no bank would allow me to open an account with them; i had cash that needed to be deposited somewhere but no bank would allow to deposit my cash in their safes, not even the bank (Whitney) where i had been a customer since 1981 (to 1995); my slate had been wiped clean

when i closed the account in 1995 because i had moved back to italy - with no intention to ever return at that point - i was dead to them

when i came back they couldn't find anything (no record) on me, so i was as dangerous and risky as any foreign or mafioso terrorist trying to open an account with possibly shady cash

well, i had no job as of yet and i had no utility bills, no established residence yet... true, but i had been back in country only a few days....

i found this so outrageous that i declared war on this bank and all like it

this little local bank, homestead community union type was the only one willing to accept my money; was recommended by a musician friend

yep, it's in that list above of suggested places we move our money to...

not only no fees and free checks, free atm withdrawals etc, they actually give me interest on my checking account balance every month...

love the place and the people that work there, who know me and greet me cheerfully when i walk into the bank

(ok, commercial break over)

commercial break over

i am now settling down for the feature show

tuning in the ya think

wake up people!

Today on Ya Think?

I'm listening. Hoping for an extra feisty edition!

I spent part of this morning looking through file folders for things to delete. One file that escaped the purge was Sammy's Blog by Chris Johnson. Still gets me grinning ear to ear. :)

looking through file folders for things to delete

shit, that reminds me

that's another task i had in my list of year-end things to do

swept aside by the "sister coming to visit" hurricane that turned my life upside down

(new year hasn't started yet in this household; it won't start until the sibling scheduled departure date of Jan 24) just a lot of dirty laundry from previous year(s) left to air...

hey yathinkers, wake up!

Thread 5574 is back

thanks cc

i'll move over

my list of year-end things to do

It's made my lists for the last eight years.
This is the first time I've actually done it. :)

Your photo

I can relate, Cat Chew -- oh, I can relate. Taming my paper is toward the very top of my to-do list. (So many different groups sending me so much paper!)

Peace hugs from NYC!

Thanks much for the heads up on the Phil Ochs movie

I'm looking forward to it too, KateAnne.
http://philochsthemovie.com/

shoot, you guys never stop

add to my to do list: look up phil ochs :)

Early Voting

worked well in
Illinois in '06, & '08

I still don't like "The Oughts"

I'm just calling it The Bush Decade.

The guy dominated the entire decade. And so much of the shittiness was directly or indirectly attributable to him.

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Ought Not Aught Naught

Submitted by CranesAreFlying on Sun, 01/03/2010 - 11:00am.
I'm just calling it The Bush Decade.
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I prefer The Cheney/Bush Decade.

It is more accurate and it is more likely to piss off the people whom I most enjoy pissing off.

'new'thread is

'new'thread is here
http://samsedershow.com/node/5574

~`ordinary's just not good enough today - olp`~
Jamesbenet

Blue Roots Radio

decent point

Cheney Decade is certainly more accurate. But in terms of getting it to stick in the mainstream I think we've got a better shot with Bush. Higher name ID ;)