Taibbi On Goldman Sachs

if you watched my 1/3 Taibbi posting from the other day you would start at 3/4 below- or why not watch it all again!

Part 1/4




Part 2/4


Part 3/4


Part 4/4

Youtube madness

TexasT is still a piss ant.

Thanks Sam

I'd like to watch them all in a row.

By the way. Great interview! I can't understand why people can't see the talent you have. I think you are on par with Bill Moyers with interviewing.

You ask pertinent questions and allow the other person to talk without talking over them.

Wisconsin

Republican's haven't changed one bit since McCarthy - American History in Video

My cousins are in town today.

My first cousin and her daughter who is the assistant professor. She teaches English as a second language and is fluent in at least four languages. She studied in Spain for 2 years but traveled many countries in Europe.

We are going out for dinner this evening to a Greek Taverna.
Greek Food and Greek music. It's been a long time since I've been to a Taverna. I'm looking forward to it.

Former Bush ‘domestic

Former Bush ‘domestic policy czar’ Karl Rove now rips czars as a ‘giant expansion of presidential power.’

Today on Twitter, former Bush White House adviser Karl Rove responded to questions posed by CopyChaser asking “@KarlRove What’s going on with all the czars? Is Obama’s strategy to change the engine of our success as a nation: freedom & capitalism?” and “@KarlRove And do we need both a ‘green’ czar and a ‘climate’ czar?” In response, Rove had this to say:

It is surprising that Rove finds the appointment of czars to be “a giant expansion of presidential power” because he actually served as the “domestic policy czar” in the Bush White House. In fact, President Bush himself appointed numerous czars in order to deal with various public crises and controversies, including a “cybersecurity czar,” “regulatory czar,” “AIDS czar,” “bird-flu czar” and “Katrina czar.” Moreover, Rove’s criticism of Obama is ironic, given his role in an administration that was marked by the expansion of executive power.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/10/rove-czars/

Giving and Taking on

Giving and Taking on Developing World Agriculture

I suppose it’s nice to see the G-8 agreeing to a $20 billion plan to boost agriculture in the developing world. But this is the very same G-8 whose agricultural protectionist policies do so much to hurt agriculture in the developing world. It seems to me that adjusting our approach to trade in these goods really ought to be the first priority in terms of helping poor countries’ farmers.

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/07/giving-and-taking-on-...

Public Services Mean

Public Services Mean Jobs

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Kevin Drum contemplates our bleak future:

For many years it’s looked as if we were getting closer and closer to an economy in which there flatly wasn’t enough unskilled work left to keep employment at normal levels. Stagnant median wages were the canary in the coal mine, with permanently higher unemployment coming in the future. But I dunno: maybe the future is now.

Well for one thing, this is part of the reason why we need to improve the performance of our high schools and the affordability of our colleges. Historically, each generation of Americans has been better-educated than its predecessors, shifting the skill balance in the workforce. Over the past generation that pattern’s broken down.

But another thing here is America’s pathological reluctance to put people to work providing adequate public services. I think it’s pretty uncontroversial to say that picking up trash, cleaning streets, fixing potholes, etc. are the kind of things government should be doing. It’s also clear that if you compare the United States to other countries, it’s possible for a country to have cleaner, better-maintained streets than we have. Doing better on this score wouldn’t be brain surgery and would provide low-skill jobs. And, yes, it would cost money. But the United States of America is the wealthiest society the world has ever known. It’s a bit ridiculous that we can’t repair damaged sidewalks in a timely manner. Or, rather, given that we clearly can repair damaged sidewalks, it’s ridiculous that we don’t.

And you could really go nuts with this stuff. Smaller buses could run more frequently. Libraries could stay open longer. Playgrounds could be better-maintained. Not as “stimulus” but as a permanent decision to say “hey, we’re a rich country, we should provide public services at a reasonable level.” Instead, we’ve chosen to cut taxes for the wealthiest members of the most unequal rich country on earth. And apparently we’re going to regulate yoga studios. But I think we could be doing better.

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/07/public-services-mean-...

Mullet Pic Fix

Bra for men

A bra made especially for men is taking Japan by storm.

Mail order company Wishroom started selling the unusual underwear last year.

Unsure of its reception, at first they only produced 160 bras as the start. These sold out immediately, prompting the company to order 5,000 more.

Wishroom president Masayuki Tsuchiya says demand from customers prompted the company to create the male bra.

In Japan, men who wear bras are known as "Bra-o", which means "Bra men".

Wishroom's bras are available in a choice of white, pink and black and retail for around £20. They are all A cup size with chest size ranging from 32ins to 38ins.

According to Mr Tsuchiya, office workers in their 30s and 40s are Wishroom's main clients.

"Japanese salary men have a lot of stress, and the bras seem to relieve that," he said.

Another, more surprising, market has proven to be in their 50s and 60s who, it turns out, also partial to the calming effects of a bra.

"They were the generation we had been told were manly - they led Japan in the post-war period," explains Tsuchiya, speculating they may now be reacting against this stereotype.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3396061.html?menu=

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Free Democracy

Israel strikes settlement deal

ISRAEL and the United States have reached a deal allowing the Jewish state to build about 2500 housing units already under construction in West Bank settlements.

But the United States dismissed the report in Maariv as "inaccurate".

US State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said "the bottom line" for President Barack Obama's administration has not changed, "that all parties in the region have to honour their obligations".

He was referring to obligations laid out in the 2003 internationally-agreed roadmap for Palestinian-Israeli peace that calls for an Israeli settlement freeze.......

Starred In The Hound Of The Athensvilles

Submitted by toniD on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 9:30am.
...Did you ever try the Greek basil?...
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Basil Rathbonopoulos?

Don't Forget

A Reminder:
In 4 Hrs. (set your timer)
Saturday, July 11, 2009
Saturdays at 3 o’clock Eastern, rebroadcasts Sunday nights at 8 pm Eastern

This week on Ring of Fire, Sam Seder and Marc Maron from Air America’s Break Room Live will be taking over the studio while Bobby and Mike are out of town.

They’ll be talking with author and health journalist Maggie Mahar about the ongoing battle over healthcare reform, and how the big money interests of the insurance industry keep trumping the healthcare needs of US citizens.

We’ll talk with author Ryan Grim about the failures of the so-called war on drugs which he details in his new book “This Is Your Country on Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America.”

We’ve also got congressman Earl Blumenauer with us today to talk about the recently passed Clean Energy and Security Act, and we’ll find out if this piece of legislation does enough to protect our environment.

And we’ll be talking with Phil Angelides, Chairman of the Apollo Alliance, who’ll tell us what exactly a green economy would consist of, and what we can do to help make it a reality.

http://ringoffireradio.com/ddefault.asp

Breaking news

The shuttle launch for this evening has been scrubbed do to weather. per MSNBC

Potato famine disease

Potato famine disease striking home gardens in U.S.
By Julie Steenhuysen Julie Steenhuysen Fri Jul 10, 5:22 pm ET

CHICAGO (Reuters) – Late blight, which caused the Irish Potato Famine of the 1840s and 1850s, is killing potato and tomato plants in home gardens from Maine to Ohio and threatening commercial and organic farms, U.S. plant scientists said on Friday.

"Late blight has never occurred this early and this widespread in the United States," said Meg McGrath, a plant pathologist at Cornell University's extension center in Riverhead, New York.

She said the fungal disease, spread by spores carried in the air, has made its way into the garden centers of large retail chains in the Northeastern United States.

"Wal-mart, Home Depot, Sears, Kmart and Lowe's are some of the stores the plants have been seen in," McGrath said in a telephone interview.

The disease, known officially as Phytophthora infestans, causes large mold-ringed olive-green or brown spots on plant leaves, blackened stems, and can quickly wipe out weeks of tender care in a home garden.

McGrath said in her 21 years of research, she has only seen five outbreaks in the United States. The destructive disease can spread rapidly in cooler, moist weather, infecting an entire field within days.

"What's unique about it this year is we have never seen plants affected in garden centers being sold to home gardeners," she said.

This year's cool, wet weather created perfect conditions for the disease. "Hopefully, it will turn sunny," McGrath said. "If we get into our real summer hot dry weather, this disease is going to slow way down."

FUNGICIDES WILL CONTROL BLIGHT

According to its website, the University Maryland's Plant Diagnostic Lab got a suspect tomato sample as early as June 12, very early in the tomato growing season, which runs from April-September.

McGrath said the risk is that many gardeners will not recognize it, putting commercial farms and especially organic growers at risk.

"My concern is for growers. They are going to have to put a lot more time and effort in trying to control the disease. It's going to be a very tough year," she said.

"This pathogen can move great distances in the air. It often does little jumps, but it can make some big leaps."

McGrath said the impact on the farmer will depend on how much the pathogen is spread. "Eastern New York is seeing a lot of disease," she said.

She said commercial farmers will be able to use fungicides containing chlorothalonil to control the blight.

And while some sprays have also been approved for organic use, many organic farmers do not use them, making it much harder to control.

"If they are not on top of this right from the very beginning, it can go very fast," she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090710/sc_nm/us_blight_usa/print

SEC May Gain Clout to Ban

SEC May Gain Clout to Ban Broker Pay Practices, Wrongdoers in Obama Plan
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission would gain power under an Obama administration proposal to ban pay practices at brokerages and investment advisers and prevent individuals from working in the industry.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a1Y6EIaLxxtI

Media Moguls Twitter Over

Media Moguls Twitter Over Slump, Not Acquisitions, at Sun Valley Meeting

Media moguls Rupert Murdoch and Howard Stringer attend the annual Allen & Co. media conference in Sun Valley, Idaho, to kick the tires on new businesses. This year, they didn’t find much.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=afywErsV631s

So which is it?

U.S. Economy on `Cusp of Stabilization' as Growth Forecasts Are Increased

The U.S. economy will expand faster than previously forecast in the second half of this year and in 2010 as a revival in consumer spending signals an end to the recession, a Bloomberg News survey showed.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=a52y8O9Do928

or

Consumer Sentiment in U.S. Falls More Than Forecast on Rising Joblessness

Sentiment among U.S. consumers, whose spending is critical to an economic recovery, dropped in July after four months of gains as unemployment approached 10 percent.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=ai_J6BKVRC.U

China's World-Record

China's World-Record Currency Reserves May Top $2 Trillion for First Time

China’s foreign-exchange reserves probably topped $2 trillion for the first time, drawing attention to the difficulty the government faces in finding places to invest the world’s largest holdings.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=acAzOqr9lvKA

The adults bring maturity to the health care debate

Leadership hears Blue Dogs' bark

The Albany Herald Editorial Board

The leadership of the U.S. House was poised to introduce a final version of sweeping health care reform on Friday, but that plan was held up after a pack of 40 Blue Dog Democrats, including Albany's Rep. Sanford Bishop, told leaders some changes - some very sound changes - would have to be made first.

In a letter sent to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, the group known as the Democratic Blue Dog Coalition said its members would not support the House bill as it was written.

With Republicans not on board with the legislation, the 40-vote swing could scuttle the bill. Congress has 435 voting representatives, with 257 Democrats and 178 Republicans. If the Blue Dogs, a self-described group of fiscally conservative Democrats that also includes Rep. Jim Marshall of Macon, whose 8th District borders part of Bishop's 2nd, bucked Democratic leadership, the bill likely would not pass.

Legislation always comes down to numbers, and leadership can easily see the numbers don't look good right now. The Blue Dogs have sent a message that was heard as plans for a vote were postponed until next week when the issues could be worked out.

Bishop said Friday that he and his fellow Blue Dogs want to impart on congressional leadership that health care reform is an issue that needs to be paid for now - not passed on to future generations.

"Every American will be responsible for the national debt," he said. "But the health and well-being of our citizens should be paramount. We now must walk a delicate line between providing a reformed health care system that gives affordable care to every American, while not increasing the national debt."

The coalition said in the letter that "significant progress" had to be made on its concerns for its members to support a final bill.

The Blue Dogs outlined several points of contention with the House proposal.

"We have to take steps to control the cost of health care if we ever hope to put our country back on fiscally sustainable growth," the letter says. "As the Senate has done, this may require us to pare back some of the cost-drivers in order to produce a bill that we can afford."

The Blue Dogs say the current system must be examined for savings and maximizing the value of health care dollars spent before the government asks the public to pay more.

The group said it wanted to reiterate its position that a public option be voluntary and that providers be fairly reimbursed at negotiated rates. "A 'Medicare-like' public option would negatively impact hospitals, doctors and patients," they wrote. "Using Medicare's below-market rate would seriously weaken the financial stability of our local hospitals and doctors."

The Blue Dogs say that any legislation that comes to the floor has to be available "for a sufficient amount of time" before a vote is taken, including any amendments and changes.

"We need time to review it and discuss it with our constituents," the letter states. "Too short of a review period is unacceptable and only undermines Congress' ability to pass responsible health care reform that works for all Americans."

Other points in the letter include:

- Delivery system reform: Rather than adding new consumers to a broken system, the Blue Dogs want innovative reforms that would "properly align incentives to promote high-quality, efficient care."

- Small business protection: The Blue Dogs say they will not support a bill that worsens the challenges small businesses face, such as providing health care to employees.

- Rural health equity: The group says a "strong rural package is critical to our support."

- Bipartisanship: The Blue Dogs say health care reform has to include ideas of Republicans as well. "The American public is looking for us to work together, regardless of party affiliation, to pass comprehensive health care reform," they wrote.

These are some commonsense approaches that should have been incorporated by leadership to start with. An August deadline for the legislation is being pushed by the Obama administration, but even the president says that's not really "do or die."

Bishop, Marshall and the Blue Dogs are doing the right thing. It's much better that Congress take its time and make a true effort to hear from all sides on this reform bill. This legislation is far too critical to be rushed through half-read and poorly understood.

"I believe all these things because freedom is not America's gift to the world, it is the Almighty God's gift to every man and woman in this world."

George W. Bush

For Sunny "Gearhead" Jim

I am not attending a nearby estate auction today because I lack restraint when faced with an opportunity to buy a tiny, rare and weird vehicle. It is a 1980 HMV Freeway, three-wheel, enclosed minicar. ("Freeway" seems to be wishful thinking.) The model being offered is gasoline powered, although an electric version exists. More information is at the link below.

http://www.answers.com/topic/hmv-freeway

David Brooks Mystery Solved?

I think an exclusive interview with Senator Harris on BRL is absolutely necessary to get to the bottom of this!

"this machine kills fascists"

Good Afternoon Sederville. Thunderstorms & 78°

Obama's Biden Problem
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

Despite our high expectations, Vice President Joe Biden’s first months in office were disappointing. This, remember, is the man who opened the more recent of his two futile runs for the presidency by saying of Obama that he was "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Yes, that Joe Biden. The one who hollered at wheel-bound Missouri State Sen. Chuck Graham, to "stand up." The one who plagiarized a speech by Neil Kinnock. In other words a man who has flung himself into one rhetorical pratfall after another with the unswerving momentum of a blind rhino.

But then, as Biden and his wife Jill ensconced themselves in the Vice President's official residence at the Naval Observatory in northwest Washington, came a phase of decorum, irksome to those wagering that the former senator from Delaware is incapable of keeping his foot out of his mouth. There were those who said sadly, “Joe just isn’t Joe any more.”

They were wrong.

Appropriately, it was on the topic of Israel that, as vice president, Biden first tossed aside unmanly prudence. Even given the zeal of almost every member of the US Congress to satisfy the Israel lobby, Biden has always been conspicuous for his slavish posture towards the Holy State. Accepting Obama’s offer of the vice presidential nomination last summer, he announced emphatically that he would not have considered accepting the invitation if he had entertained the slightest suspicion that Obama was not one hundred per cent in Israel’s corner. In fact the Israel lobby did entertain these unworthy suspicions, which is why it pushed strongly for Biden as veep.

con't

http://www.counterpunch.org/

that's nice 60th

Brooks said he had is hand between his legs the whole dinner long.

men with bra

"Japanese salary men have a lot of stress, and the bras seem to relieve that,"

i can tell these japanese men they're in for a surprise; bras are anything but stress relievers - most of my daytime stress is due to having to bear a bra

i meant wear a bra but actually bear describes it better

lol

60th, that is funny about katherine harris, but the david brooks image eeewwww, i didn't even watch the video which was everywhere for a while, because i think i could not "bear" it

sam is an excellent interviewer

agreed

he's up there with bill moyers and studs terkel; just don't understand why don't the higher powers see this as well and start putting it to mainstream use.

i am sure texas t will tell us why this is :)

Today in the fast lane

At Nürburgring during qualifying. The racers are all out on dry tires when it starts to rain suddenly. The cars were like watching a drop of water hit hot oil. They went everywhere. Tomorrows race could easily be in the rain which will make it a blast to watch and hell to drive.

Unlike NASCAR, F1's don't go home in the rain and they race open cockpit.

Bra's actually cause men stress mire

and for some reason we are only allowed to use one hand to snap one off. Some of them are like armored fortresses just trying to get through those damn things. I figure women wear them as some dexterity test for us.

dinner plans: pasta

fernando, the pasta recipe is at the bottom of the other thread (and don't get it confused with the grappa'ed cherries); it looks confusing because i mixed italian and english translation; i should have deleted the italian but left it just for flavor :)

I am going to dinner to a friend's house who lives in a condo with a pool; we'll have my pasta salad and some other dish, strictly vegetarian, we'll wash it down with spanish green wine; i do hope to wash down all of this past week's worries, sorrows and aggravations

Stimulus Puns: The Gift That Keeps On Giving

Obama rejects 2nd stimulus: Give recovery time
The Associated Press - Matt Apuzzo - ‎25 minutes ago‎
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First Lady Speaks Out On Sex
Bait News Service - 1 minute ago

Iran gets through

- We Are Here
We Are Here
We are Here.

Thanks mire

I gotta run now but I'll be on that shortly.

Random Thought....

Ever notice how these Tea Baggers hold almost all their rallies in public parks?

Ideology FAIL....

Demand the NAACP Support Civil Rights Investigation for Mumia

Get on the Bus for Mumia!
July 13 in New York City
DEMAND a CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION NOW!

Action inside and outside the NAACP Convention at the Hilton Hotel, 1135 Avenue of the Americas & West 54th Street.

12noon Press Conference - Flyering inside and outside of the NAACP convention as Attorney General Eric Holder addresses the convention.

5-8PM Educational Rally - Flyering inside and outside the convention

Contact International Concerned Family and Friends of Mumia for bus tickets from Philadelphia - 215-476-8812

In 2004, the NAACP voted to "reiterate its support of the international movement for a new and fair trial for Mumia Abu-Jamal." Yet the organization has done nothing since that time to ensure justice for Mumia.

This April the US Supreme Court ruled against Mumia's final appeal, which provided ample evidence that racism during jury selection and throughout the trial led to his 1982 conviction. As a result the only legal possibilities are for Mumia to be re-sentenced to the death penalty (which the DA is seeking) or life in prison with no possibility of parole.

Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department have the power to review Mumia's conviction and air the evidence that can overturn it. The NAACP, as the oldest civil rights organization in the country, has to live up to its promise of 2004 and its historic mandate. On July 13 Eric Holder will be speaking at the annual NAACP convention in NYC. This is the perfect opportunity for the movement to address these issues and concerns. Please join us in the struggle for justice for Mumia and all of those wrongly imprisoned!

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FREEPERS CALL MALIA OBAMA, "GHETTO TRASH" & "WHORE"

Someone with nic "The Halfrican" has posted a link to the Freepers site which displayed the pictures below. Apparently, the Freepers let it be know what they think of an 10 year old black child, her attire, and her family. This is not hyperbole Sederville. This is highly disturbing.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/9/164711/4347

FREEPERS COMMENTS ABOUT MALIA!

Freepers comments:

we;’re being represented by a family of ghetto trash."

"Looks like a bunch of ghetto thugs. A stain on America."

"Looks like a typical street whore."

"What we now are sending the ghetto over to represent us. and if so who the hell is that flea bag who looks to be dragged from the trash dumpster."

"you could go down any ghetto right now and see exactly the same."

"could you imagine what world leaders must be thinking seeing this kind of street trash and that we paid for this kind of street ghetto trash to go over there"

"the world must be laughing like mad right now at that we have this kind of street trash in our white house."

Racist minds sure do think alike, don't they?

"Wonder when she will have her first abortion."

sad isn’t it that we now have ghetto street trash over there representing us in Europe.

Sad isn't it that the only black people you like are Jesse Lee Paterson, Alan Keyes, the star from your favorite sports team, and MAYBE Juan Williams.

"AND NONE I REPEAT NONE of the Palin kids never even ventured into the public arena making anykind of statement comparable to this Obubbo’s daughter"

....THE FUCK? (I cut out this poster's "trash" quote

"This disgusting display makes me more and more eager for the revolution.

They make me sick.... The whole family... mammy, pappy, the free loadin’ mammy-in-law, the misguided chillin’, and especially ‘lil cuz... This is not the America I want representin’ my peeps."

I need a fucking drink.

I hope all these Freepers have children that grow up to either marry black people or fuck them in high school.

edit: Rec List! Thank you Kossacks for realizing why we need to stomach reading this kind of vile shit. Ignoring it isn't good enough sometimes.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/9/164711/4347

I know Fernando

But Brooks could've easily mistaken her for a man. Or, at the very least manlier than he...

I can see how he might have been confused especially after a couple of Rohypnol martinis.

"this machine kills fascists"

Big Easy Rollergirls will chase hard-core runners through French

Quarter

Members of the Big Easy Rollergirls, from left, Monica Ferroe, Jordan Blanton, Sherri Montz and Jamie Schmill -- get ready to take to the streets at last year's San Fermin in Nueva Orleans.

When Mickey Hanning first saw the annual running of the bulls in Pamplona on television when he was 15, he knew that one day he would travel to Spain and be in that number.

What he didn't know was that he would bring the tradition to life in his hometown of New Orleans, spawning a national trend.

Hanning is a co-founder of San Fermin in Nueva Orleans: The Running of the Bulls in New Orleans, happening Saturday. Modeled after the festival of San Fermin in Spain, which started Tuesday, the local event involves hundreds of people in white and red gathering at 8 a.m. to run through the streets of the French Quarter. But instead of running from bulls, they will be running from something equally fearsome: the Big Easy Rollergirls. Armed with foam-core bats and wearing horns on their helmets.

"There's just such a raw, chaotic environment, infused with energy, " said Dylan O'Donnell, another co-founder of the event.
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http://images51.fotki.com/v1541/photos/1/127099/7135086/2008048513-vi.jp...

http://blog.nola.com/entertainment_impact_tvfilm/2009/07/medium_bigeasyg...

Wisin & Yandel - Ahora Es

Uhhh, ya. This is encouraging....

John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

I know Holden co-wrote this a long time ago...and I know it was only speculation...but we are now close to the type of global overpopulation crisis posited in his book...The solutions he proposed are very disturbing.

I certainly hope his thoughts and feelings on how to handle this type of global crisis have changed....

I wonder what will happen if this story hits the mainstream...

Sorry for the "concern trolling", but this shit is scary way over the top and needs to be put out there and accounted for.

Holdren C.V.

This should be out there too

"this machine kills fascists"

It's ALL about the yoni.....

isn't it?

eya gang!

nice morning here, and i finally got my ISP to fix my line into the house.

that potato blight is scary, hope ewe get through that ok. we have quite a few impending scenarios like that ahead.

very "interesting" car Cranker. I'd love to build a small car myself. the boxy body is a turn-off though.

60th... Lars and the Real Girl was GREAT! Wonderful & Original

Just finished watching the rest of it...I guess it was either me or the movie being too slow last night when I started watching...but WOW! I loved it!

The people were so compassionate towards Bianca & Lars

a ♥ mover..

I don't have Chubbs phone number...thought I did..

has anyone called him?

I know :) that's exactly how I felt, Alice

It's nice to see a filmmaker focus on our innate compassions instead of exploiting our fears.

"this machine kills fascists"

Sammy and Mark on Ring of Fire....

...Real Girls are expensive....

http://realdoll.com

Provides stress free companionship.

Cheaper than most alternatives (meaning real women).

Sam and Mark on Ring of Fire....

Not just ON it but completely hosting the whole show instead of Pap and Bobby.

Ring Of Fire

Hey, Sam & Marc are on Ring of Fire, guest Hosting

Hey, Sam & Marc are on Ring of Fire, guest Hosting, Glad to hear them, AAR give them their own show.
http://www.whatnowtoons.com/images/what-now-224-color-150-dpi-Lg.jpg
Cartoons for the coming progressive age
www.whatnowtoons.com

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You're my hero, Jmach1JP!

Jeez I've been futzing around on air america's site trying to get it to play forever now! Thank you for posting the direct links... :)

Holdren CV..

Very impressive. Obviously a genius scientist of the highest caliber...more than academically and experientially qualified for the appointment Science Czar...

Heh - He left the Ecoscience book listed in his bibliography...

Guess he is not entirely ashamed of it...

Mengele had a diploma too....

yes alice

I was going to listen to the local station but
then I remembered it plays the show 2 hours
after the aar stream, 4-7pm local time.

so I can catch the begining which I missed.

None of them will play on dial-up.. :(

Sucko.

dial -up

yes that is a drag.
I think aar abandoned it's low bitrate stream
last year.
I used to listen to Radio Nation w/ Laura Flanders
on saturdays, and then I could no longer listen
without major choppyness breakups rebuffering ect.
I could nolonger tolerate it.
So I finaly jumped into the lowest cost dsl i could find.

Alice & P on the farm.."Sucko".. ;)

Dial-up ?

It's not my pic that's screwing up thread for IE'ers..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Cool.

RIng of Fire on fire! Thanks, Jmach.

Alice - Didn't you say you guys were going to broadband? Oh - And that Real Doll thing gives me the creeps - I was gonna say "willies," but definitely NOT.
Thanks, anyway. Already got a beauty, though.

Major choppiness stinks like rubber on rye bread...

it's like TRYING to drive yourself crazy....

(instead of letting it happen naturally....) ;)

Is anyone else

having problems with this thread ?

It won't line up right here..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Haha, MM... :)

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We're getting wireless on the 16th, ellwort...they came up and said I have a direct line to the new god-tower of power up on the hill, but they were all out of equipment and rescheduled us for the 16th...which is also the day we take new team photos for derby...so I'll be delayed that night trying it out...

I was at dinner with my birth mom and her husband the other night and wondering why this wireless place is advertising 1,000 kpbs for 50 a month...why don't they say 1mb instead? It sounds bigger...

good here rules

firefox 3.5

That doll site is quite disturbing....

have you seen that movie tho, ellwort? Maybe it's slightly less creepy after seeing that movie, for me?

Looks nermal to me, MM

Firefox 3.0.11

Lars and the Real Girl?

The movie you were talking about, Alice? Is that adults only too?

I may not be mature enough to see it.

OK on Safari too

Through DHL. A little slow, but I think my son is downstairs downloading a rhinoceros.

Probably,my crappy wireless !

SUCKO !

Man,I lost Cat Chews link to a 50foot Ethernet Cord (White).

I need one Pronto..

Don't want to reboot my wireless router during the show..

It's only happening here..

That's what I get for teasing Alice.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

It could even be for kids, ell...

It's lovely...

My whole right side of the thread is

gone & it's now underneath "Post Comment",weird..

Anyone having the same problem with IM ?

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I have an ethernet cord I can send you MM..

It's HUGE and I don't need it...

Send me your address...I'll send it...

Alice

Those streams Should work on dial-up.

I disconnected my DSL, and started my ibm/att dial up
service, I have both.

I am connected at 48kbs.
My winamp player says the aar stream is a 32kbs stream.

I think the problem is you can't Listen AND Blog at the same time.
You have to choose one or the other.

Send Ensign that creepy doll

48!!!

The highest I can get about once a month is 28.8..it's usually 26.4...

MMRules

Yes this thread seams to have the content from the
right column relocated below.

I'm switching back to my dsl.. back in a bit

-You have to choose one or the other.-

Ok Morpheous... ;) ....but on wireless will I be able to do both?

Thanks Alice..Is it white ?

Need white to run it down the hallway on the ceiling..

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I removed my pic above & thread is still messed up..

Anyone having the same problem on IM ?

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

obese blubbery and full of zeats (picture a young karl rove)

the freepers

malia is so beautiful, lithe and healthy looking they just can't stand it

I know we have a few Nevada people here....

Peace Activists to Rally Monday Outside Creech Air Force Base: Will Call For End to US Drone Attacks in Afghanistan, Pakistan
WHAT: CODEPINK and others rally to "Ground the Drones!" WHEN: 6:30 to 8 a.m. Monday, July 13
WHERE: Outside Creech Air Force Base (35 miles NW of Las Vegas)

INDIAN SPRINGS, Nev. - July 10 - At the gates of the Creech Air Force Base here, where American soldiers inside use advanced technology to aim and fire pilotless drones at human targets thousands of miles away in Afghanistan or Pakistan, peace activists from several organizations will rally to stop the use of these drones, violations of international law and fuel for Taliban and Al Qaeda.

"These are war crimes being committed from our own backyards," said rally participant Father Louis Vitale, a Franciscan friar for 49 years of Oakland, CA, a well-known peace activist. "It's unbelievable that from thousands of miles away, we're dropping bombs on people's houses."

The demonstrators, which also includes the pink-clad women of CODEPINK, the Nevada Desert Experience and more, will also explain that drones are largely inefficient -- the number of militants killed is unjustly outweighed by civilians killed. David Kilcullen, a former top adviser to U.S. Army General David Petraeus, recently testified to the House Armed Services Committee that the rate of civilian deaths do not justify the drones. Since 2006, drone attacks killed 14 Al-Qaeda leaders but also killed about 700 civilians, a 50:1 ratio of innocent victims to targeted enemies.

"Here in the beauty of the desert, it's even more painful to know that so much death and destruction is set into motion here," said Janet Weil of CODEPINK. "Even just in the past few days, there's reports of a terrible loss of life. The sheer number of people who've died in Afghanistan and Iraq is very much accelerating, largely from our drones."

Drone attacks anger the Pakistani and Afghan populations against the U.S. efforts, fuel Al Qaeda and the Taliban and prompt further distrust in their own governments' actions. About 82 percent of Pakistanis consider the U.S. drone attacks on militant camps in Pakistan as unjustified, and 69 percent have an unfavorable view of the U.S. government, according to a July poll by the WorldPublicOpinion.com. Meanwhile, Taliban and Al Qaeda has risen, increasing violence and leading to a never-ending battle.

Meanwhile, the U.S. soldiers who aim and fire these drones experience psychological damage from their work. After driving to the base from their homes in Los Vegas, they take a 12-hour shift of aiming and firing drones using technology much like a video game -- with a control stick and a screen that shows the targets thousands of miles away, before and after they are struck. Vitale, who has spoken at length with military chaplains and other commanders, said these men are mostly 19 and have little combat experience.

"The only preparation for something like this is time in the arcade, and the arcade is a game to see how many people you can kill," Vitale said. "Another commander told me that he's afraid they feel it's just another game, it's an arcade. But then they realize the real damage they're doing."

The demonstrators will also call on Congress to stop spending American tax dollars on drones and other military efforts in Afghanistan and Pakistan but on humanitarian aid and diplomacy.

For more information, please call Janet Weil, Bay Area CODEPINK coordinator, at 925-212-7477 or Jean Stevens, CODEPINK national media coordinator, at 508-769-2138.

Link

Thanks Jmach1JP..Now I know it's just not me..

MMRules
new
Submitted by Jmach1JP on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 4:07pm.
Yes this thread seams to have the content from the
right column relocated below.

I'm switching back to my dsl.. back in a bit
*******

I'm guessing someone on Firefox did something ?

I don't know..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

cent, on that Ecoscience thing...

I have seen it too within the last couple of days, it is now being circulated all over the alarmist wingnut blogs and according to the original source, the zombietime report "was inspired" by frontpagmag.com article (linked to at the top of the report), which is uber nutjob David Horowitz's site:

"News, analysis, commentaries and links to outside articles with a conservative perspective from David Horowitz's Center for the Study of Popular Culture.
"

He's the guy who thinks the conservative perspective isn't taught enough in our "liberal" colleges and universities and publishes the wacko "most dangerous academics" list.

I looked elsewhere for some context to the excerpts, but no dice...but this "zombietime" source is very Alex Jones-ey.

Considering that, I would say that, at the very least, context is needed and you can tell by the writing style that alarmism is their bread and butter, they are extrapolating a whole lot and putting words in the authors' mouths as if they are advocating everything wholesale versus demonstrating possible scenarios and how they could happen were the world to become overpopulated.

It's a 900+ page book and I see excerpts noted here from just a few pages, so a LOT of context is missing.

just sayin'

"this machine kills fascists"

Mozilla 1.7.6

I'm using ie 6 on win-98, however i opened a Mozilla browser window
and this thread looks normal in it ?

Well,I'm using ie 7 on IM (Newest)and the thread is

Freakin ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

the pap-attack!

:)

"Attorney General Eric Holder may probe Bush-era torture"

Independent’s Day

"Four knowledgeable sources tell NEWSWEEK that he is now leaning toward appointing a prosecutor to investigate the Bush administration's brutal interrogation practices, something the president has been reluctant to do. While no final decision has been made, an announcement could come in a matter of weeks, say these sources, who decline to be identified discussing a sensitive law-enforcement matter. Such a decision would roil the country, would likely plunge Washington into a new round of partisan warfare, and could even imperil Obama's domestic priorities, including health care and energy reform. Holder knows all this, and he has been wrestling with the question for months. "I hope that whatever decision I make would not have a negative impact on the president's agenda," he says. 'But that can't be a part of my decision.'"

Lots of things under the microscope right now...interesting.

"this machine kills fascists"

Oh FFS..edna's post about what those nimrods wrote is so

pathetically incomprehensible...stoopid...tardness to the maximum...& beyond belief that I can't even digest it...and I've hereby resigned any hope for today...

Two great West side derby teams are playing tonight in Sacramento...Rocky Mountain and Sacred City...I bought tickets and now I don't feel like driving there tonight...I feel too broke to go have fun..that's way sad...

Richard Avedon , Photographs 1946-2004

the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art (SFMOMA)

...

In the 1960s and '70s, Avedon expanded his artistic reach with a series of studio portraits representing charismatic figures of the sexual and intellectual counterculture movements then under way. The Beatles, Twiggy, Allen Ginsberg, César Chávez, Andy Warhol, and Malcolm X all make an appearance. His portrait work during this time ultimately expanded to encompass a cross-section of individuals from an enormous range of social realities: artists (Jasper Johns, Francis Bacon, Willem de Kooning); writers (Truman Capote, William Burroughs, Jean Genet); government and business officials (Ralph Nader, Henry Kissinger, Katharine Graham of The Washington Post); as well as various drifters, aristocrats, and radical political protesters.

http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2009/07/11/14369361.html

It's happening on Sam's home Page and

this thread only..

The other threads are ok..

Maybe,it's all the video's Sam posted above ?

O'well.I'll stop whining now..

Hopefully,a new thread will straighten it out..
**
Alice,what color is that Ethernet chord ?

Thank you

But,U might want to keep it if your new wireless isn't that great..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Black or Blue I think

.

.



Derby teams give other derby teams free or discounted

tickets to bouts and I always forget that...

What are Sam Seder and Marc Maron talking about

do they sound different on a different show?

Alarmist...agreed...

The site is definitely a little out there, no question about it. (I told you I was a consiracy theorist ;)

The extraneous commentary is definitely hyperbolic, and I am good at filtering that crap out, but the excerpts from the book are real...and that is what has me concerned...and a little pissed off actually.

I would probably feel better if I heard them framed in a different context....preferably from the source...I guess I will have to wait until the mainstream gets a hold of it and debunks it, or read the whole book...that is exactly what I meant in my original post when I said these comments need to be put out there and accounted for...I am not saying the implications are true, only that they had damned well better not be...

I am glad you took a little time to actually look in to it in stead of just dismissing it out of hand...that was the desired effect...

Rules...

Here is a good cheap site to buy cables...

50' White Cat5

Just for you Mire.

Karl Rove
Olympus High School
Salt Lake City, Utah 1968

Rove

figures he was from Utah.

Too many whack jobs seem to be from that state.

Sinnerman!

Sinnerman!

Sick leaders create a sick society

Submitted by Alice on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 4:28pm.
pathetically incomprehensible...stoopid...tardness to the maximum...& beyond belief that I can't even digest it...and I've hereby resigned any hope for today...

------

It's pretty awful Roller Girl. It causes one to ponder, what kind of a culture produces these people? But don't let it ruin your day. After all, it's people like you that makes a difference.

Human Behavior

Rove's right eye-

seems to have a life of it's own.

Ring Of Fire

The tip of the Cheney Domestic Spying Iceberg

Cheney wants the whole iceberg to melt before we investigate it.

Or maybe sit out the statute of limitations?

Or better still, until Obama and his Holder DOJ completely okay and continue every single Bush Era domestic spy program (same TECHNIQUE as when Bush took away 'habeus corpus' and then had the Congress just okay it all in the Military Commissions Act; or like the telecom corporations spying on us for Bush and then getting a Congressional nod of approval retroactively! I never want to hear again anyone dismiss them with that "the Bushies were stupid and incompetent"). Is more of the RETROACTIVE IMMUNITY in our future?

Get on the phone! Tell them "NO"!

REMEMBER when Ashcroft was in his hospital bed and Gonzales and somebody tried to get him to sign an authorization for "something"?

Boy -- if Ashcroft wouldn't sign "something", it must really have been bad. The plot thickens.

It is IMPERATIVE to find out what President of Vice Cheny and his Brain ADDINGTON were up to!!!

In the meantime, Gov. Schwarzenegger can save some money in cash-strapped California by making sure the Regents of the University of California know IT IS TIME TO FIRE the-war-criminal-and-traitorous-domestic-spy-enabler JOHN YOO from the UCBerkeley Law School!

Thanks Cent !

I lost Cat Chews link when i had to Re-install my windows..
It's always something.. :)

**

Thanks Alice..
But,I need White so I can string it down our hallway ceiling here..
I don't want my landlord to freak.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

dismissed

I read something about it somewhere...probably LGF because I have been interested in their transformation for a while

"Weblog covering issues dear to both conservatives and US liberals."

huh?

anyway, since you brought it to my attention again, thought I'd look into it more.

It kind of reminds me of science fact/fiction books I used to read in the 80s and 90s. I can think of similar Arthur C. Clarke or David Brin stuff these guys would have issues with.

"this machine kills fascists"

breaking news - cheney (nyt)

i didn't see this upstream but if i missed it....

nyt breaking news:

Cheney Is Linked to C.I.A. Concealment of Terror Program

The Central Intelligence Agency withheld information about a
secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years on direct orders from former Vice President Dick Cheney, the agency's director, Leon E. Panetta, has told the Senate and House intelligence committees, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.

The report that Mr. Cheney was behind the decision to conceal the still-unidentified program from Congress deepened the mystery surrounding it, suggesting that the Bush administration had put a high priority on the program and its secrecy.

Mr. Panetta, who ended the program when he first learned of
its existence from subordinates on June 23, briefed the two
intelligence committees about it in separate closed sessions
the next day.

====

i suspect that as this unravels that it will explain why cheney has been frantically trying to get his and his daughters face on the tube to say they did nothing wrong for the past several months.

(lynn, where's our passports and tickets to paraguay?)

edna, you remind me that I heard this man say a long time ago

on tv, that "different doesn't mean better or worse, it simply means different"...

I wish they still had that PBS show where they would as an ethical or moral question to a table of smarties and they discussed it..

Crazy, mp3

Something tells me...

A Cheney wouldn't last long in South America...

"this machine kills fascists"

Yeah you don't want to make them mad, MM

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time for the Saturday nap....bbl..

California Dreamin'

How the State Can Beat Its Budget Woes

By ELLEN HODGSON BROWN

"As goes California,” says the adage, “so goes the nation.” All eyes are therefore on the Golden State as it attempts to solve its $26 billion budget deficit. The world’s eighth largest economy is not going quietly into that pit of debt and devastation that has devoured Third World countries whole. The State’s voters have drawn a line in the sand against further tax hikes, while Democratic leaders have drawn a line at further cuts in services or selloff of public assets. State legislators are deadlocked, caught between the rock of tax ceilings and the hard place of debt limits.

“Expect the best and accept nothing less,” says another adage that typifies the attitude sometimes called “California dreaming.” You create your own reality. Instead of trying to prop up an old model that has failed, you can dream up a new one. If anyone can come up with an original solution to the problem, Californians should be able to. But what? While waiting for developments, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has started paying the State’s bills with IOUs (“I Owe You”s evidencing debt, technically called “registered warrants”).

Hmm . . . Pay the bills with IOUs. Not a bad idea! That was, in fact, the original innovation that got the American colonists out of their financial straits back in the 18th century, when they lacked the silver and gold used in the Old World for conducting trade. Money, after all, was just a medium of exchange, an acknowledgment of goods and services delivered or a debt owed. The notion that the government could pay in paper receipts was first hit on by the governor of the province of Massachusetts in 1691, when he needed money to fund a local war. The use of a paper currency had been suggested in an anonymous British pamphlet in 1650, but the proposal was modeled on the receipts issued by London goldsmiths and silversmiths for the precious metals left in their vaults for safekeeping. The problem for the colonies was that they were short of silver and gold. The Massachusetts Assembly therefore proposed a different kind of paper money, a “bill of credit” representing the government’s “bond” or IOU. The paper money of Massachusetts was backed only by the “full faith and credit” of the government...
http://www.counterpunch.org/brown07102009.html

How can we do it, Phil?

Tax the uber wealthy
Regulate capitalism
Increase wages
support unionization of workplace
Stop de-industrialization

Why are we

begging?
Make demands and see that it happens.

LGF...hahaha...

They have always been a wingnut freak site...

zomblog is definitely a conspiracy site, in the jones/norry and Right wing genre...but they have good takes once in a while...

I usually would never post something directly from them. but they are always a good place to find bizarro suppressed news to investigate further. This fits that bill.

science fact/fiction...yeah, also, now that I consider the times and his location at the time, it wouldn't surprise me if Holdren had a little "help" with his imagination while they were penning it. ;)

Karl Rove Olympus High School Salt Lake City, Utah 1968

jeez...fucker was always crazy...

Report: Holder may yet initiate torture probe

In spite of President Barack Obama’s reluctance, Attorney General Eric Holder may yet appoint a special prosecutor to plumb the depths of the Bush administration’s torture program, according to a published report.

“Four knowledgeable sources” told Newsweek that Holder’s decision could come in a matter of weeks.

“Such a decision would roil the country, would likely plunge Washington into a new round of partisan warfare, and could even imperil Obama’s domestic priorities, including health care and energy reform,” the magazine reported. “Holder knows all this, and he has been wrestling with the question for months. ‘I hope that whatever decision I make would not have a negative impact on the president’s agenda,’ he says. ‘But that can’t be a part of my decision.’”

President Obama’s attorney general has called waterboarding “torture,” affirming that under his watch, “my Justice Department will not justify it, will not rationalize it and will not condone it.”

“The use and sanction of torture is at odds with the history of American jurisprudence and American values,” he said in March. “It undermines our ability to pursue justice fairly, and it puts our own brave soldiers in peril should they ever be captured on a foreign battlefield.”

Holder also led a review of the treatment of terror suspects.

Obama ordered the review as one of his first acts in office, as he also ordered the closing of the infamous Guantanamo Bay detention center, the CIA’s secret prisons abroad and special interrogation authorities for terror detainees.

With AFP.

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/11/report-holder-may-yet-initiate-to...

Art Punk Redux - Getting Nowhere Fast & Roxy Music..

http://thecargoculte.blogspot.com/2009/07/art-punk-redux.html

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

thank you edna (i guess)

for the juvenile karl rove pic...

so i guess i was wrong, the blubber and zeats developed later

Things are heating up in the Senate....

Review skeptical of Bush snooping program’s effectiveness

Sen. Leahy calls for inquiry; Sen. Feingold slams ‘blatantly illegal and unconstitutional’ abuses

A US government probe has concluded that a secret wiretap program launched after the September 11, 2001 attacks had a “limited role” in preventing fresh strikes.

The report found that most intelligence officials “had difficulty citing specific instances” when the National Security Agency’s covert wiretapping in the country contributed to successes against terrorists.

Many senior intelligence community officials, the document said, believed that the program “filled a gap in intelligence collection” thought to exist.

The warrantless spying, referenced by the review as the “President’s Surveillance Program,” was kept under careful lock with only certain officials being “read in” to the program. For a time, even members of the FISA court were kept out of the loop, and only three Department of Justice lawyers were aware of it, the report says.

Though numerous top Bush administration officials agreed to be interviewed by the inspectors general, former Attorney General John Ashcroft and former CIA Director George Tenet declined.

The report was compiled by the inspectors general of five government agencies, including the Central Intelligence Agency, and the Departments of Defense and Justice.

It admitted that FBI agents, CIA analysts and officers and other officials “had difficulty evaluating the precise contribution” of the program “to counterterrorism efforts because it was most often viewed as one source among many available analytic and intelligence-gathering tools.”

While the program obtained information that “had value in some counterterrorism investigations, it generally played a limited role in the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s overall counterterrorism efforts,” the report concluded.

Former President George W. Bush had authorized the program and was reauthorizing it every 45 days.

The CIA and other intelligence organizations also viewed the program, which allowed eavesdropping without warrants on the international communications of Americans, as a useful tool.

But even they could not link it directly to counterterrorism successes, the report said.

Officials at the CIA also stated that much of the reporting received thanks to the electronic surveillance program authorized by Bush “was vague or without context.”

The report said the secrecy surrounding the program may have limited its effectiveness.

So few rank-and- file officers were informed about the program at the Central Intelligence Agency that the agency often did not make full use of the leads the wiretapping generated, according to the report.

The inspectors general concluded that the use by the intelligence community of information collected under the program “should be carefully monitored.”

Democrat Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a statement that the conclusions of this review should help shed more light on these rule-of-law issues that the previous administration avoided for a long time.

“This report underscores why we should move forward with a nonpartisan commission of inquiry,” Leahy said. “Without a thorough, independent review of decisions that run counter to our laws and treaties, we cannot ensure that these same mistakes are not repeated. Such a commission must have bipartisan support to be able to truly get to the bottom of these issues with objectivity and credibility.”

Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), in a prepared statement on Saturday, said the report challenges Bush administration arguments that “stopping the program would have had catastrophic results.”

“This report leaves no doubt that the warrantless wiretapping program was blatantly illegal and an unconstitutional assertion of executive power,” he said. “I once again call on the Obama administration and its Justice Department to withdraw the flawed legal memoranda that justified the program and that remain in effect today.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/11/review-skeptical-of-bush-snooping...

Cheney doesn't have to run away; he's still got the missing nuke

weaponry perhaps, or some of that bioterra pathogens missing from Fort Dietrick perhaps? Cheney reminds me of one of those mad villians in a 007 or Batman mega-movie. Always ready with his failsafe plan, perhaps. (Like, if someone discovers the 9/11 hijackers were patsies -- Cheney can say, "Hey, don't worry. We tortured the others in the patsy pool until they were vegetables. No one can track back the plan from these rutabagas." Not to worry, he can tell the cabal.) And doesn't he look SCARIER than any of those villians in those 007 flicks? And with no make-up!!!

And what's with these "the next terrorist attack" threats he always makes?

Cheney rubs his hands together, then lifts one hand stiffly to wipe the trickle from the corner of his drooling mouth, and he says to his daughter, Liz, "My little mouthpiece, it is time. Tell them it is a 'go'."

Ceci Connolly Was the

Ceci Connolly Was the “Play” in the WaPo’s Pay2Play Dinner
By: emptywheel Saturday July 11, 2009 6:21 am

Close to the end of OmbudAndy's long assessment of his paper's Pay2Play scandal, he includes this tidbit:

Brauchli conferred with Pelton about the salon dinners. At one point they showed up at the newsroom desk of reporter Ceci Connolly, who covers health care, which was to be the discussion topic of the July 21 dinner. Subsequently, she said, "Charles asked me for some contact phone numbers and e-mails, which I provided."

[snip]

On June 17, another Word document was provided by Pelton to The Post's advertising staff soliciting a $25,000 sponsorship -- "Maximum of two sponsors" -- for the July dinner. Under "Hosts and Discussion Leaders," it listed Weymouth, Brauchli and "Other Washington Post health care editorial and reporting staff." It said participants could "Interact with core players in an off-the-record format."

A week later, the flier was distributed to the ad sales staff.

At the same time, e-mails were being sent over Weymouth's name to lawmakers and others inviting them to the July 21 dinner. They said she, Brauchli and "health care reporter Ceci Connolly" were hosting the evening. An accompanying invitation said it would be off the record and noted that it would be underwritten by a single sponsor, Kaiser Permanente. [my emphasis]

Somehow I just knew Ceci Connolly would be involved in this Pay2Play.

That's because she has spent the last month "reporting" stories that scold progressives for insisting on real reform. There was the article, for example, where she said,

Activists say they are simply pressing for quick delivery of "true health reform," but the intraparty rift runs the risk of alienating centrist Democrats who will be needed to pass a bill.

And falsely claimed Adam Green could offer no reason for a public option. Problem is--that's not what she asked him.

Connolly then asked me why progressives were picking a political fight on the public option, as opposed to another issue. I guess the fact that it's the #1 domestic issue of the day -- one that affects millions of American families -- wasn't explanation enough.

I figured she was looking for a quote summarizing the political stakes, so I though for a moment and said, "The public option has become a proxy for the question of whether Democrats will stand on principle and represent their constituents."

I was quite proud of that answer. It summarizes what a lot of people are feeling -- the public option is the "line in the sand" issue for Democrats, something Chris has written about here on OpenLeft several times.

Connolly's take on that quote:

Green, in an interview, was hard-pressed to articulate a substantive argument for the public plan but said that it "has become a proxy for the question of Democrats who stand on principle and represent their constituents."

WHAT? Connolly asked me a question on the politics, and when I gave her an answer on that, she said I didn't answer on the substance?

More recently, Ceci Connolly reported on a poll and focused on the 80% who were satisfied with the quality of their care, and not the majority who are dissatisfied with the health care system overall in this country. More...

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/11/ceci-connolly-was-the-play-...

HeeHee,Edna.. :)

Rove's right eye-
Submitted by edna ellen poe on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 5:03pm.
seems to have a life of it's own.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Kirk still running -- with

Kirk still running -- with one big caveat

Want a sign that the Illinois Republican party is in disarray?

The state party chairman, Andy McKenna, is the one stumbling block preventing the GOP’s leading recruit, Rep. Mark Kirk, from officially announcing he’s running for the Senate.

Kirk, who has been courted by national Republicans for months, told party officials today that he would only be running if they ensured that McKenna won’t be challenging him in a primary.

McKenna was originally planning to run only if Kirk passed on the Senate race, but he had become angered over Kirk’s vote in favor of cap-and-trade energy legislation -- and has told GOP officials he wouldn’t necessarily step aside.

Republican officials have now been pressuring McKenna, who served as Kirk's first campaign finance director, to step aside. He will be making a final decision over the weekend, according to Illinois GOP sources.

Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) spoke with Kirk this afternoon and he told her he was still planning on running, according to Kathleen Lydon, Biggert's chief of staff. Kirk had already scheduled July 20 as the date for his Senate kickoff announcement.

Lydon said she was shocked that McKenna was still seriously considering a campaign.

“He could not keep that party chairmanship if he ran for the Senate,” said Kathleen Lydon, Rep. Judy Biggert’s chief of staff.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/0709/Kirk_still_running__with_on...

i'm currently rebuilding squeeky tennis balls

Ruzz looking on as i perform surgery.

Update: ;)

Thread still screwed up here..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

This is so weird!!

That high school picture of Rove was on a dump I took, just last week.

I felt screwed because I didn't get a Jesus. I cudda made some money with that.

no space shuttle launch tonight

the pad was hit by lighting during a storm in the past few days:

nasa is delaying until tomorrow night to double check for damage.

Ring Of Fire

Segments
Aproximate times including intro & outro bumper music:

Topics / Guests
01. Karl Rove 9:24
02. EXXON VALDEZ OIL SPILL 8:47

ads, DOJ - ACLU -Detanee Prosecutions
03. Opium Drugs in Afghanistan 12:48
04. EnviromentalProtctnAgncy, FoodDrugAdmin, 7:55
05. Marc Talks with Earl Blumenauer 10:27
06. Earl Blumenaeur 8:40
07. Sam Talks with Ryan Grim 10:10
08. Ryan Grim war on drugs 9:59
09. Marc Talks with Phil Angelides 9:14
10. Phil Angelides 8:24
11. Sam & Maggie Mahar (Health Care) 13:12

12. Maggie Mahar 6:17

Audio Whole Show:
Page: http://airamerica.com/node/107910

File Download:
http://airamerica.com/ondemand/play/107910.mp3

http://voxcast.airamerica.com/broadcasts/2009/07/aarf071109.mp3

19811 KB, 1:52:40, 24kbs

WCPT radio in Cicago

repeats Ring of Fire tomorrow in case anyone missed it or wants to listen again.

I'm out of here soon to go to dinner.

Have a great night!

All In The Family: A "C" Street Musical Situation Comedy

Intro song (sung by John and Darlene Ensign, and Cynthia and Doug Hampton):

John and Darlene: Boy the way Cubby Culbertson played
Songs that made the Hit Christian Parade
Guys like us we had it made
Those were the days.

John: Didn't need no welfare states
Every lady pulled her weight
Me and Darlene ran for office great
Those were the days

Darlene: And you knew who you were then
Girls were wives and our men were our men
Mister, I'll never hoover you again

Doug Hampton: People seemed to be content
A campaign job paid the rent
Freaks were in a circus tent
Those were the days

John Ensign: I sent a Sunday FedEx then
Monday Cynthia made me sin again
We had ourselves a dandy day before the tabloid din

Cynthia: Your hair shirt was long and my skirt was gone
Doug can't keep his up nearly as long
James Dobson's got it all wrong

All: Those were the days!

Parody Cup Runneth Over

Here is the lyrical passage I wrote...

Darlene: And you knew who you were then
Girls were wives and our men were our men
Mister, I'll never hoover you again

And here is the lyric that was ditched so that Darlene could have a part in the song...

Doug Hampton: And you knew your wife won't pose
After rippin' off her clothes
To hoover a golf ball through a hose

The Family

It needs some work on the metre but it has promise.

I suspect that dozens, if not hundreds, of satirists have already headed down the All In The Family trail.

What are U smokin

Crank.. ;-)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

AP sources: Cheney told CIA not to discuss program


WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Dick Cheney directed the CIA eight years ago not to inform Congress about a nascent counterterrorism program that CIA Director Leon Panetta terminated in June, officials with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.

Subsequent CIA directors did not inform Congress because the intelligence-gathering effort had not developed to the point that they believed merited a congressional briefing, said a former intelligence official and another government official familiar with Panetta's June 24 briefing to the House and Senate Intelligence committees.

Panetta did not agree.

Upon learning of the program June 23 from within the CIA, Panetta terminated it and the next day called an emergency meeting with the House and Senate Intelligence committees to inform them of the program and that it was canceled.

Cheney played a central role in overseeing the Bush administration's surveillance program that was the subject of an inspectors general report this past week. That report noted that Cheney's chief of staff, David Addington, personally decided who in Bush's inner circle could even know about the secret program.

But revelations about Cheney's role in making decisions for the CIA on whether to notify Congress came as a surprise to some on the committees, said another government official. All spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the program publicly.

An effort to reach Cheney was unsuccessful.

A former intelligence official who was familiar with former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden's tenure at the CIA said Hayden never communicated with the president or vice president about the now-canceled program and was under no restrictions from Cheney about congressional briefings. The official said Hayden was briefed two or three times.

Exactly what the counterterrorism program was meant to do remains a mystery. The former intelligence official said it was not related to the CIA's rendition, interrogation and detention program. Nor was it part of a wider classified electronic surveillance program that was the subject of a government report to Congress this past week.

The official characterized it as embryonic intelligence gathering effort, and only sporadically active. He said it was hoped to yield intelligence that would be used to conduct a secret mission or missions in another country — that is, a covert operation. But it never matured to that point.

The Cheney revelation comes as the House of Representatives is preparing to debate a bill that would require the White House to expand the number of members who are told about covert operations. The White House has threatened a veto over concerns that wider congressional notifications could compromise the secrecy of the operations.

That provision, however, would have no effect on programs like this one.

The former intelligence official familiar with Hayden said Congress has a right to contemporaneous information about all CIA activities. But he said there are so many in such early stages that briefing Congress on every one would be too time consuming for both the CIA and the congressional committees.

The New York Times initially reported about Cheney's direction not to tell Congress of the program on its Web site Saturday.

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Never heard of this site before -- Clay and Iron

Lotsa stuff on bioterra and otha scary topics...including altering human genetics, retroviruses, immune failure research (before AIDs), H1N1 swine flu....

http://www.clayandiron.com/audio.jhtml?method=categories

Unfortunately most kids today don't even know what

"All in the Family" was....

sports bra

Bra for men
new
Submitted by Kevin © on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 10:17am.
==
not men
bounce o meter
http://www.shockabsorber.co.uk/bounceometer/shock.html

~`ordinary's just not good enough today - olp`~
Jamesbennett

It's A Natural

MMRules,

Ever since I read that The Fellowship, The Fellowship Foundation, National Fellowship Council, Fellowship House, The International Foundation, National Committee for Christian Leadership, International Christian Leadership, C Street, and the National Leadership Council are commonly known as The Family, the All In The Family theme song parody has been nagging at me.

Crank,Oh..

Ya still didn't answer my question.. ;)

I'm just goofing on ya..

I wonder how dr's doing..
I haven't seen him here in a long time..
I sure hope he didn't go overboard or something..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

You Kids Stay Off My Lawn!

Unfortunately most kids today don't even know what
Submitted by nora on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 9:48pm.
"All in the Family" was....
--------
My target audience drives a Buick with the blinker on.

Why is this blog STRETCHED?

It's not me, is it?

Not Gonna Do It. Wouldn't Be Prudent.

Why is this blog STRETCHED?
Submitted by nora on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 10:02pm.
It's not me, is it?
--------
All together now:

"That's a violation of Rule #2."

JB..Interesting site..

sports bra
Submitted by jbenet on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 9:52pm.
Bra for men
new
Submitted by Kevin © on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 10:17am
*******
I hate to ask what U were looking for,to pull that site up.. ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Update:

I guess I'm not the only one where this thread is all screwed up..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

It's stretched for me too

but only on IE. Firefox and Safari display it just fine

"this machine kills fascists"

I hate to ask what U were looking for,to pull that site up.. ;)

I was looking for a new sports bra :)

Rimshot Time

Submitted by Kevin © on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 10:14pm.
I was looking for a new sports bra :)
------
Judge not lest ye be jugged.

Which reminds me of an old joke...

She: "Listen buster, you don't know what it's like lugging these things around all day."

Kevin: "I'd never leave my house."

Bras for men

"According to Mr Tsuchiya, office workers in their 30s and 40s are Wishroom's main clients.

"Japanese salary men have a lot of stress, and the bras seem to relieve that," he said.

Another, more surprising, market has proven to be in their 50s and 60s who, it turns out, also partial to the calming effects of a bra.

"They were the generation we had been told were manly - they led Japan in the post-war period," explains Tsuchiya, speculating they may now be reacting against this stereotype".

That's some weird psychology. We should gift them discreetly to Republican congressmembers. We could change history and no one would ever know it but us and them.

(and the bomb squad)

"this machine kills fascists"

JB..Interesting

JB..Interesting site..
new
Submitted by MMRules on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 10:07pm.

I hate to ask what U were looking for,to pull that site up.. ;)
==
I don't remember. I found it a year or two (or3) ago and it's been in my 'science' bookmark folder waiting to share.

~`ordinary's just not good enough today - olp`~
Jamesbennett

God don't make no mistakes.

God don't make no mistakes. That's how He got to be God. - Archie Bunker

A four-letter Italian word for good-bye...BANG - Archie Bunker

I got nothin' against mankind. It's people I can't stand. - Archie Bunker

If you liberals keep gettin' your way - we're all gonna hear one big loud flush. The sound of the U.S. of A. goin' straight down the toilet. - Archie Bunker

I'm saying I can't afford to make no donations to no Catholic charities. If you need the money that bad, wire the Pope! He's got more money than God! - Archie Bunker

It ain't supposed to make sense; it's faith. Faith is something that you believe that nobody in his right mind would believe. - Archie Bunker

Jesus was a Jew, yes, but only on his mother's side. - Archie Bunker

Listen Edith, I know you're singing, you know you're singing, but the neighbors may think I'm torturing you. - Archie Bunker

http://www.basicjokes.com/dquotes.php?cid=578

Just for you Mire. Submitted

Just for you Mire.
Submitted by edna ellen poe on Sat, 07/11/2009 - 4:45pm.

Karl Rove
Olympus High School
Salt Lake City, Utah 1968

**********

Wonder how he survived all the ass kickings he got ... you know he was put head first in toilets in school.

Sarah’s Secret Diary

Excerpt:
No one understands me. It’s like I’m speaking some Eskimo dialect or something.
Andrea Mitchell follows me all the way to Kanakanak Beach and I get a French manicure
and set up this huge photo op for her, even though she spooked the salmon.

Todd and me are in our cool fishing bibs. Piper’s helping out on the boat. It’s an amazing day that shows
how our Creator favored my beloved Alaska, gatekeeper of the continent, and makes a great shot for all
the network reporters up here to milk. This progresses me away from my image as some kind of flaky
“rogue diva” and back to my image as a tough huntin’ and fishin’ gal.

But Andrea makes such a darn big deal about how I’m quitting in the middle of my term.
"You’re not listening to me!" I snap. She says maybe I didn’t want to go back to the nitty-gritty of
Alaska politics after the bright lights of the national campaign. "The nitty-gritty, like, you mean,
the fish slime and the dirt under the fingernails and stuff that’s me?" I said. Awesome response, huh?!!"

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/opinion/08dowd.html?_r=1&partner=rssny...

Deep Thought

Mark Sanford should quit and team up with Sarah Palin for a Mantracker episode.

"this machine kills fascists"

Found this at C2C..Wasn't that the guy who use to post here

During the first half of the program, George spoke with documentary producer Bill Murphy, who shared details from his various paranormal investigations in Louisiana, aboard the Queen Mary, and at the the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado. Open Lines followed
*******
all the time Looking for his uncle ?

Just wondering..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

George Bush's $10 billion giveaway to Barrick Gold

File under Bush Crime Family..
I don't know the validity of this article..
**
by Mark Sonnenblick

In 1985-86, Barrick Gold Corp. paid two other mining companies $63 million for a small working Nevada mine, called Goldstrike. Within a few years, it was found to contain 24.6 million ounces of gold, worth about $10 billion. Goldstrike was on federal property. Under existing legislation, designed in 1872 to populate and bring development to the West, miners could operate on federal land for free, once they had filed a claim. They could obtain full legal title to the land at $5 an acre, upon completion of a long and expensive process called ``patenting.''
In 1992, however, pressure was building for a new mining law to require that those given federal properties pay a royalty, a certain percentage of what they mine each year. As expected, when the Clinton administration took office in 1993, it sought a 12.5% royalty. At that rate, the 25 major mine claims then in the process of being privatized, would eventually yield an estimated $10.75 billion to the U.S. Treasury.
Mining companies caused a major jam-up at the Bureau of Land Management, as they rushed to obtain patents before Congress applied royalties. By 1992, the long waiting line at the BLM Nevada office made it doubtful that many mines would get over the critical hurdle in the patent process in time. It would normally take several years for a mine of Goldstrike's size and complexity to complete the process, a BLM source commented, and the average during the previous four-year period was 10.3 months. But, Barrick made it in only 4.8 months.
Barrick filed its applications for 1,144 acres of land in March and April 1992. That summer, a pilot program for ``expedited processing'' of Nevada patents was instituted by BLM chief Delos Cy Jamison, a Republican who had been appointed to that post by President George Bush in 1989. Jamison concocted this speed-up procedure with the BLM Nevada state director, without informing his own staff. ``Bells went off in my head when I heard about it,'' a former BLM staffer told {EIR.}

http://www.afrocentricnews.com/html/georgebushgiveaway.html

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Evening all

MMR that was Billy Mumphrey!

Excellent interview w/ Taibbi, Sam!

Here's another one!

Exclusive Interview: Rolling Stone Journalist Matt Taibbi
@ Wall St. Cheat Sheet

Of course you've seen how The Fed has threatened the economy should they (ack!) be AUDITED.

    Fed warns oversight will destabilise markets and threaten future generations
    @ Financial Times.

    ~snip~
    Ron Paul, the Texas Republican, has gathered the support of a majority of the House of Representatives for a bill that would audit the Fed’s monetary policy decisions. He told a Congressional hearing he wanted the power to prevent the Fed being "secret and clandestine and serving special interests”.

    ~snip~
    Donald Kohn, vice-chairman of the Fed, argued at the House financial services subcommittee hearing that any sense of political interference would negatively affect markets. “Any substantial erosion of the Federal Reserve’s monetary independence likely would lead to higher long-term interest rates as investors begin to fear future inflation,” he said.

    Not only did Mr Kohn argue that the Fed should be given the power to regulate large systemically significant companies, but he argued against giving up responsibility for consumer protection, asking Congress to overturn the Obama administration’s proposal to create a new Consumer Financial Protection Agency.

    ”I would hope that the Congress might think about whether there are ways of strengthening the Federal Reserve’s commitment to consumer regulation as an alternative to creating a new regulator,” he said.

To explain it all, let's go to a "banker of bankers", the Bank for International Settlements (BIS for short).

    THE MAN NOBODY WANTED TO HEAR
    By Beat Balzli and Michaela Schiessl
    Der Speigel

    William White predicted the approaching financial crisis years before 2007's subprime meltdown. But central bankers preferred to listen to his great rival Alan Greenspan instead, with devastating consequences for the global economy.

    William White had a pretty clear idea of what he wanted to do with his life after shedding his pinstriped suit and entering retirement.

    White, a Canadian, worked for various central banks for 39 years, most recently serving as chief economist for the central bank for all central bankers, the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), headquartered in Basel, Switzerland. (6 long pages)

Lastly, the Sunday Funnies are up!
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/5017
Brick TeeVee Match-Up Sunday!

Good Evening, Sederville!

MMRules

I don't remember the cable/link but here're a couple of choices from the place I like to shop for 'puter stuff:
50 ft. Cat 5e White Network Cable ($8.79 + shipping + CA sales tax)
50 ft. Cat 6 White Network Cable ($7.49 + shipping + CA sales tax)

Thanks Cat Chew..

With Yours & Cent's links I should be able to find one..

Thanks again... :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Oh..Your right,Toni..

Evening all
Submitted by toniD on Sun, 07/12/2009 - 12:03am.
MMR that was Billy Mumphrey!
*******
I was close but no cigar.. ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

More GHWB $10B giveaway

WHOA MMRules!

I'm a gold bug so when I saw the name "Barrick" I said, "Hmmmmmmmm. What's this?"

My add...

    http://www.afrocentricnews.com/html/georgebushgiveaway.html
    The approved biography of Peter Munk explains a bit of what happened: ``For much of 1993, [Munk] spent a lot of time in the District of Columbia ... lobbying. At that stage Brian Mulroney, Canada's former prime minister, had just joined the Barrick board and he immediately went down to Washington to establish contact with key senators, using his close relationship with George Bush to good advantage.''

So even CANADA has been pillaging American landscape and minerals! Not surprising, is it? See The Bismark Tribune from Feb 23, 2008 Uranium boom hits home in small town. At the time I read a blogger (maybe at here at Sederville or DU?) who lived 7 miles from this proposed uranium mine. I'm sure I responded to his petition or email link, but it was another "land management" legal ordeal that Powertech Uranium Corp. of Canada was sure to win.

It wouldn't be right if I didn't post a TAKE ACTION LINK
http://www.defendblackhills.org/
http://www.powertechexposed.com/

Yeah all that and a cuppa coffee, and I still want to know what happened to all the gold in Bldg 7.

clean sheets folks

trapper

New Thread !

And,for the IE folks the threads back to normal..

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/5018

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Cat 5e CatChew

Is that PLENUM RATED? (aka fire regs for over drop ceilings, etc.)

Plenum-rated wire went through the roof when Dow (the patent holder of the plenum-rated chemical technology) had a factory close. A 500' spool of CAT5e used to be about $90 back around 2003. Then the price shot up to $200 and up for the same spool. Non-Plenum-rated is still cheap, but if it burns it will create even more toxic vapors. Just an FYI, before you buy non-plenum-rated for your home installation.

1980 HMV Freeway, three-wheel, enclosed minicar

Hubby almost bought one of those long ago. We went to look at a yellow one in one of the Boston suburbs in the early 1980s.

The wide front view is not how I remember it, not the angle
you really see them from.

I wonder what this one sold for.

Re: Is that PLENUM RATED? (aka fire regs... etc)

Holy smoke!
I had no idea.

Back in my time we had one cable.
It was clay-beige, it was 6-feet long,
and it didn't have any fancy-shmancy name.
We made do and we were content.
Those were the days!