MAJORITY REPORT ARCHIVES

Many kudos Fernando...

kinks... it seems (after only a couple of minutes of random clicking) that stuff before april 1 or so of 2005 are offline or cannot be reconciled.

May 15, 2007

it has links to bluestateblogs for mrr that don't exist

the logo www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/MRR%20LOGO.jpg is missing.

i presume you need a batch editor to update a lot of these links.

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of course it goes without saying that this is really great of you to be doing this. sorry for letting my inner engineer talk first.

I was uploading till I fell asleep and only got to tinker with it for half an hour this morning.

I will try to address all of the errors identified here over the weekend. It's supposed to rain for the next couple of days anyway.

Gosh I hope I don't start drinking that Tequila tonight and go inserting faux comments from Chubby to Alice professing his undying love or anything. Whew, that would just look bad bad bad.

Great job!!!

I've been checking different dates and they seem to be working fine.

Seder is right. You did an awesome job!

the back up data is in a bunch of formats. The only way to get it running right is to get help from you guys to check it all out.

Wow! I've got to love a fella who is so generous with his time and talent. It's very nice!
Wow!
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!
Makes me wish we had a MRR/SSS Blog Awards night.
We do have some time before the fifth anniversary to think up categories...

I'd love to tune in to the Sam Seder Radio show again

And Marc. I love Marc but he needs his own show.

Then we could have 4-6 hours of the boys
every day m-f! :)

CeeCee, may I recommend you put me in the Darwin category along with the couple who strapped a dildo to the reciprocating saw.

i have the early bloggies.

Holy crap, yes!

Sunshine Jim's Open Mic
04 MRR Bloggie Archives 1 to 10
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/4476

Definitely not the prototype for a blog award statuette:
Not safe for work picture.
(Yes, I'm wondering why Phyllis Schlafly's name is on that page.)

By the way, I'm not related to the blogger known as CeeCee.
Not that I would mind, it's just a fact.

I should post my scrambled brain disclaimer.

If you can get the early years to me Sunshine Jim, I'll post and link them correctly. I can't find them in the compressed file archive I got from Sam.

So far so good

i downloaded april of oh five
each file one at a time and it
turned out to be twentythreeMB just for
one month

http://www.majorityreportradio.com/archives/2005/04/

thanks F.
ecrasez l'infame

Thanks Fernando ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

- 2004
- 2005

thanks; for you oldies it must trigger a lot of memories but for me newbie it just means additional frustration at not having the time to take in all this "new" old stuff; as it is i can barely keep up with random participation in this here daily real time blog :) but kudos Fernando, really well done

kudos!!!

I clicked on the link, saw that familiar old banner and felt a tear in my eye.

It felt like I'd traveled back in time. Now if we could only reconstruct the old audio archives too.

- Click on the musical notes next to the title.

I have 4gigs of archives to upload so this is going to take a while.

I know I will be wasting much time going over the old threads. Summer of 2006!

Finding Out True Love Is Blind - Louis XIV

Many Old MRR Bumper Tunes & Yes,some of the links still work..Who knew ? ;)

The First of Many-Music Oasis Uno

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Fernando,maggiesboy,sunshine jim

I missed that first month back in '04
and wasn't hip to the blog until late that year.

The local Chicago station was a medium power
inner city station 950am that could not
be heard 35 miles N.W. of the city where I lived.
It took a few weeks to find a low bandwidth stream
and a player to match the format.

I have a few audio recordings of sam and janeane on the
phone with another AAR show host from the 3rd and last
week of april and was unsure of the exact date.

Now that Fernando has re assembled the blog of that
first month I was just able to determine the dates
of these recordings i downloaded in '05 from the archives
of that other AAR show.

Fernando and Jim. Thanks for letting some up us old-timers relive those early days..

;-)

You're a wonder Fernando!

Site *and* sound and I can relive those glory days once again!

'tis a pity the old Unfiltered fans (me being one of them) aren't as organized, eh?

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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Kennedy%20Terror%20List Just in case some suspicious persons may have been forgotten by our government, le me add the following: John Lewis, General Manager, Los Angeles Zoo; John Lewis, Chairman and CEO, The Bank of Fayetteville; John Lewis, President and CEO Knowledge Networks; John Lewis, CEO - Berbice; John Lewis, Vice Chairman, Comerica inc.; John Lewis, CEO, Centerre Healthcare Corporation; John Lewis, chairman, president/CEO, Capitol Bancorp Ltd.; John Lewis, Senior Research Associate of the Center for Governmental Studies, Northern Illinois University; John Lewis, First Vice-President, Manufactured Housing Council; John Lewis, President of the Board of Trustees, Case Western Reserve University; John Lewis, Associate Professor, Villanova University. -- However, perhaps of MOST CONCERN is the American Jihadist, John Lewis, Ph.D., Assistant Professor of History at Ashland University, who has said: "What is needed is an all-out immediate attack, nuclear if necessary, on targets chosen by the US. ... Touch an American, and fire falls out of the sky onto you and anyone who breathes the same air as you. ... Morally there is no difference between an environmentalist who bans DDT at the price of millions of malaria deaths, the Unabomber who selects his victims personally, the anarchist who smashes store windows and dreams of smashing structural steel, and a terrorist who rides a passenger plane into the World Trade Center. ... And we must do it because we are good."
http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1098 Perhaps it is John Lewis, Ph.

I'm here for post show.

When skunks duel, wind direction is everything.
Michael A. Loduha (on environmental factors in legal cases vs. the attorneys' skills; from a lecture series) It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
Thomas Jefferson (sounding a bit like lao-tzu…) If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.
Thomas Jefferson If half the lawyers would become plumbers, two of man's biggest problems would be solved.
Felton Davis, Jr.: "Reflections on the Lake," published in The Gainesville Times (GA)

heya t, hi ilo

FURTHER NOTICE TO "JOHN LEWIS": Airline passengers who believe they've been wrongly detained or confused with someone on the watch lists can call that office at 877-266-2837. The task of clearing up the problems belongs to the agency's ombudsman, Kimberly Walton, and her 26 staff members. Last month, the office received 579 inquiries related to the no-fly lists.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Kennedy%20Terror%20List -- now that the name, "John Lewis", is on the No-Fly list, I suspect the Office of the Ombudsman will be getting a while lot more business this month, don't you? Posted by: ilo at August 23, 2004 10:11 PM

"DESERTER" "THE STORY OF GEORGE W. BUSH AFTER HE QUIT THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD" "An examination of the Bush military files within the context of US Statutory Law, Department of Defense regulations, and Air Force policies and procedures of that era lead to a single conclusion: George W. Bush was considered a deserter by the United States Air Force." http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm

Fuck The Violence

Yo Dada!
How's it going?

and let's not forget this... "Bush's Bogus Medals" "In this picture, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA - the wing) and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon (SAEMR)." http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04346.html

We are getting a lot of wierd ^^..^^'s on the blog lately.
Must be boring at the right wing blogs.
Can imagin it would with all that vitriol they spew. More fun here.

Nobody,
Rest a bit boy and talk to us.

Okay, who put that infernal bubble wrap link up?
My husband's driving me nuts with all the popping corn-like sounds.
Worse, there's no popcorn or butter around the house!

Yes, yes: Hello hello hello.
Heloo everyone!

I always rest and listen to mike...he relaxes me ;) Just had to throw down the troll repellant ;)

Pants without zippers or button? NO FLY ZONE

Oooops one last thing... PollingReport.com National Trial Heat Summary http://www.pollingreport.com/wh2004.htm

Well for all the ladies out there....
FINALLY A MALE BLONDE JOKE -
>>
>> A BLONDE GUY GETS HOME EARLY FROM WORK AND
>> HEARS STRANGE NOISES COMING FROM THE BEDROOM. HE
>> RUSHES UPSTAIRS TO FIND HIS WIFE NAKED ON THE BED,
>> SWEATING AND PANTING.
>>
>> "WHAT'S UP?" HE SAYS.
>> "I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK," CRIES THE WOMAN.
>> HE RUSHES DOWNSTAIRS TO GRAB THE PHONE, BUT
>> JUST AS HE'S DIALING, HIS 4-YEAR-OLD SON COMES UP
>> AND SAYS "DADDY! DADDY! UNCLE TED'S HIDING IN YOUR
>> CLOSET AND HE'S GOT NO CLOTHES ON!"
>>
>>
>> THE GUY SLAMS THE PHONE DOWN AND STORMS
>> UPSTAIRS INTO THE BEDROOM, PAST HIS SCREAMING WIFE,
>> AND RIPS OPEN THE WARDROBE DOOR. SURE ENOUGH, THERE
>> IS HIS BROTHER, TOTALLY NAKED, COWERING ON THE
>> CLOSET FLOOR.
>>
>> "YOU ROTTEN SOB ," SAYS THE HUSBAND, "MY
>> WIFE'S HAVING A HEART ATTACK AND YOU'RE RUNNING
>> AROUND NAKED SCARING THE KIDS!"

Several of my uploads didn't post or partially posted tonight. What happened?

Hey, everyone, I seemed to have left my favorite crucifix and my AK-47 layin' around here someplace. Anybody seen my stuff?

I was having problems with the blog too...also had problems with my own blog... I dunno

Several of my uploads didn't post or partially posted tonight. What happened? Mercury's retrograde until Sept. 2

Gotta run. Been busy cleaning computer house.
My PC had more trojans than a high school prom.

Maybe there is alot of blog screening going on.

Hello Ren and Stimpy. I'm not ignoring you, you just make me blush. Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 23, 2004 09:58 PM "Maybe Cathy in Seattle does like us, Ren." "She is a wonderful woman, Stimpy. Just wonderful."

~~~ Mercury's retrograde until Sept. 2 ~~~ So's Uranus

Without continuity the point is missed or confused

...thanks for the great music dada...send it along anytime... http://www.lsi.usp.br/usp/rod/magick/crowley0.jpg
Excerpt from "Song to the great lord of destiny"
an old Taoist shaman number ...and a big whoa-cool there too...
*********** hi miss anne if you're here...any new sun oven masterpieces? and you mean you take people on errands to the doctors and things?
************** What city are you in? I'll see if I can't find you a decent source of cheap meat.
Posted by: the power of The Ineffable JIK, to you all, at August 23, 2004 06:54 PM i live in sonora..but i've tried the meat thing and only one of 19 will eat it and even then not much...some like broccoli...like four of them like milk in small doses...the one meat eater roman likes wet iams food...and pork when it's near my house...(lol..ick!)
**************** I just Vomited in my mouth from that
Posted by ...XConner LingusX..... at August 23, 2004 07:09 PM LMAO!!!!
*********** poor lonely blog, cut down in it;s prime...
Posted by at August 23, 2004 07:22 PM and again with the LMAO!!
:)

Who was that Barry person? Wierd stuff.
Not the typical troll stuff but it could be a troll pretending.

Toni the old trolls got wore out ;)

trolls...LMAO!!

hey t its been kind of like this lately.. "The so-called artistic temperament explains the faliure of innumerable talented men and women who never get over the frontier line of accomplishment.Symtoms of the artistic temperament should be fought to the death.
Work, work, whether you want to or not. I throw away a whole day's work sometimes, but the simple effort of turning it out has kept up my steam and prevented me from lagging behind. You cannot work an hour at anything without learning something.
The matter of giving life to the pages of a novel is the result of industrious study of human beings. Writing is the result of thinking about things to write about and studying the details of contemporaneous life, so that you may set them down, not imaginatively, but accurately."
--David Graham Phillips. --- sort of like that in a way, but with music too

Toni, I couldn't quite place where Barry was coming from either. I'm not thinking he was a typical freeper.

BEIJING, Aug.24 (Xinhuanet) -- US warplanes have bombed Najafj's cemetery and the historic center while US soldiers fought fierce battles on the ground with a Shiite militia in the town. Witnesses said tanks approached within 250 meters of the Imam Ali Mosque, where many militants have sought refuge, the closest they have come to the compound in recent days. US snipers were on rooftops around the shrine, reported China Radio International http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-08/24/content_1871755.htm

Views from NYC August 2004
"The 2004 Republican National Convention will be held for the first time ever in New York City at Madison Square Garden from August 30 - September 2, 2004. " RNC
Republican National Convention Protest Viewpoint
Diana Schmidt On The Ground In NYC
Reports From The Heart of The City
August 21, 2004
By Diana Schmidt
Face our fears with bravery, don’t hide from them.
I refuse to live my life in constant fear from all of the unknowns in our world.
Right now, I fear the Bush Administration more than any unknown.
Most Americans face fear and terror every day of their entire lives – fear of destitution – fear of getting sick without health insurance – fear of getting kicked out of their apartments for not being able to pay rent on time – fear of getting beaten up in their neighborhoods.
The last time there were massive protests that turned sour was during the Vietnam “war”. I was in college; it was after Kent State (4 students were killed by the police during protests in Ohio). There were student protests in the Park Blocks of Portland State University in Oregon. I remember watching from the glassed in overpass between buildings. I wanted to go down and protest the draft that took many of my friends away, never to return. I wanted mine to join the voices that were protesting an unjust and unnecessary “military action”. But I didn’t go. I didn’t speak out. I was afraid. I’ve always regretted not being brave then.
Too many pundits, both left and right, have been stirring up our fears about protesting against the Bush agenda in New York City during the Republican National Convention:
The right (including John Ashcroft’s “Justice” Dept.) tells us to watch out for terrorists among the protestors – there is “credible” information that they’re planning to attack during the Convention. Credible, but perhaps more 3-year old information?
The mainstream media reports that Al Qaeda is planning an attack to affect the election – ( like bin Laden and all the new recruits can tell the difference between Bush and Kerry!). They refer to Madrid without mentioning that 90% of the Spanish people had always

"So's Uranus" Hey, watch it bub. There's ladies here...
maybe

Thanks and Good Night

Did I hear that Bush has sex with sheep?

Bush Raped Sheep for Truth- "he touched me in a baaaaaad place"

And the Horseman rode into the dark of night, calling out, "One if by media, two if by politics." Thus, the War on Democracy had begun.

Good night Dr.

that Malloy is really something

good night Dr. robert

Good Night sleep tight

Oh it's so not sheep...it was A goat...

The presidential campaigns of George W. Bush and John Kerry are at each other's throats like dogs in a fighting pit over a war that ended 29 years ago. The mainstream news media, along with the alternative news media, have enjoyed watching the show, dutifully reporting every detail and nuance of the fiery exchanges between the camps. Somewhere in these last 24 days of August, however, while arguing over a three-decades-old war, we managed to forget that another war is happening. Here are some details that have been missed: Army Spc. Armando Hernandez, age 22; Army Spc. Anthony J. Dixon, age 20;Marine Cpl. Dean P. Pratt, age 22; Army Spc. Justin B. Onwordi, age 28; Marine Sgt. Juan Calderon Jr., age 26; Army Pfc. Harry N. Shondee, Jr., age 19; Marine Capt. Gregory A Ratzlaff, age 36; Army Sgt. Tommy L. Gray, age 34; Marine Lance Cpl. Joseph L. Nice, age 19; Marine Gunnery Sgt. Elia P. Fontecchio, age 30; Army Spc. Donald R. McCune, age 20; Marine Sgt. Moses D. Rocha, age 33; Army Pfc. Raymond J. Faulstich Jr., age 24; Marine Sgt. Yadir G. Reynoso, age 27; Marine Lance Cpl. Larry L. Wells, age 22; Army Spc. Joshua I. Bunch, age 23; Marine Cpl. Roberto Abad, age 22; Army Pfc. David L. Potter, age 22; Marine Lance Cpl. Jonathan W. Collins, age 19; Army Capt. Andrew R. Houghton, age 25; Marine Lance Cpl. Tavon L. Hubbard, age 24; Marine Staff Sgt. John R. Howard, age 26; Army Capt. Michael Yury Tarlavsky, age 30; Marine Lance Cpl. Kane M. Funke, age 20; Marine Lance Cpl. Nicholas B. Morrison, age 23; Army 1st Lt. Neil Anthony Santoriello, age 24; Marine Corps Pfc. Geoffrey Perez, age 24; Marine Corps Pfc. Fernando B. Hannon, age 19; Army Spc. Mark Anthony Zapata, age 27; Army 2nd Lt. James Michael Goins, age 23; Army Sgt. Daniel Michael Shepherd, age 23; Army Pfc. Brandon R. Sapp, age 21; Army Sgt. David M. Heath, age 30; Army Spc. Brandon T. Titus, age 20; Marine Lance Cpl. Caleb J. Powers, age 21; Army Spc. Jacob D. Martir, age 21; Marine Sgt. Harvey E. Parkerson III, age 27; Marine Lance Cpl. Dustin R. Fitzgerald, age 22; Army Pfc. Henry C. Risner, age 26; Pfc. Kevin A. Cuming, age 22; 1st Lt. Charles L. Wilkins III, age 38; Pfc. Ryan A. Martin, age 22. That is the list of dead A

"(Kerry's) only hope...is to start running for president as though he doesn't especially want the job. As though he were 27 years old and testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee; not seeking to deflect and dance away, but drilling straight through, as though he were finally willing to say -- again -- yes, America, Vietnam was horrible. Do you want to know how horrible? I will remind you. Whose fault was it? The people who put us there. Who put us there? People just like the people who put us in Iraq. His only hope is to run as though he is simply interested in looking people in the eye and telling the truth as he sees it. The question is will Kerry allow himself to be that person, and, if so, will he do so in time." Andrew Christie http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0823-09.htm

That is the list of dead American soldiers in Iraq from the last 24 days. That is August, so far... http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/082404A.shtml

That's what I thought too, C-Sea.
Tried to get him to talk more, get what he was all about.

Hello denezins of the blog.

USGS photos, see how your neighborhood looks from above: http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/advfind.aspx

Iraq from the last 24 days. That is August, so far... And you don't hear any of this on the news. Like these kids are invisible.

USGS photos, see how your neighborhood looks from above: http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/advfind.aspx Posted by at August 23, 2004 10:45 PM +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
i already know what my neighborhood looks like from above, like a crack ghetto, same as from the ground.

What happened to your blog, Nobody?

~~~ And you don't hear any of this on the news. Like these kids are invisible. ~~~ God bless You, Toni.

Dateline: Iraq "Suddenly the silence of the night was broken by the airplanes that came, dropping their many bombs. All of my family, my neighbors, too, have been killed. My home is destroyed. I have never felt such tremendous joy! Thank you, George Bush, for now there is freedom in Iraq!" [The statement above is a direct quotation from one of our many fictional allies in Iraq.]

And you don't hear any of this on the news. Like these kids are invisible. Posted by: tonid at August 23, 2004 10:45 PM It seems that to the Right Wing media, these kids are invisible. CNN is promoting the RNC like it's a fucking rock concert but, they are ignoring the American and Iraqi victims of Bush's war for oil. It's fucking disgusting.

G'night, Dr. Z.

FBI Fumbled on Terror Financing, 9/11 Panel Says
Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:21 AM ET By Kevin Drawbaugh
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The FBI knew about specific suspected al Qaeda fundraisers before the Sept. 11 attacks but failed to tackle the problem, the Sept. 11 Commission said in a staff report released on Saturday. In a broad critique of the government's surveillance of terrorist financing, the report said "gaps appear to remain in the intelligence community's understanding of the issue." The report said the government should resist creating "a terrorist financing czar" or some other specialized entity to focus on the problem. Instead, it backed an existing interagency committee led by the National Security Council. "The total elimination of money flowing to al Qaeda ... is virtually impossible," the report said. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6036422

It won't allow me to post on it...I'll try later...

It seems that to the Right Wing media, these kids are invisible. CNN is promoting the RNC like it's a fucking rock concert but, they are ignoring the American and Iraqi victims of Bush's war for oil. It's fucking disgusting. Posted by DarkeningBolt at August 23, 2004 10:48 PM
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i've gotta question, how do ratings work? wouldn't it just be better if we never watched any of the major news affiliates, therefore making the ratings drop and that would hopefully force them to do real reporting or is that not how it works?

I don't understand how being in Alabama on a political campaign is considered serving in the National Guard. It's not is it? I mean, they're two different things - right? Or is the message that the military runs the electoral process? Oh right, Florida 2000. Um? It's not just me right? Caesar's naked.

Dole defends attack on Kerry's military record as 'political hardball' http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&u=/afp/20040823/pl_afp/us_vote_kerry_veterans_040823225520&printer=1 Headline should read, "Grouchy, senile 'old fuck' has little control over what he says."

Bush Optimistic on Progress in Iraq DEB RIECHMANN Associated Press
CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush, who faces a tough re-election ballot in just 10 weeks, portrayed the ongoing occupation of Iraq in optimistic terms Monday even as the U.S. death toll nears 1,000. "We're making progress on the ground," Bush said about Iraq, where Marines are engaged in fierce battles with followers of a radical cleric holed up in the holy city of Najaf. Bush spoke at his Texas ranch after spending more than three hours mapping defense strategy with his top national security advisers. "We talked about Iraq - the way forward in Iraq, the way to help the Iraqis get to elections" by January, Bush said. http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/9473311.htm

For Barry, if you ever come back: The Majority Report Blog isn't the obvious place to find enlightenment, my friend. But you can find enlightened smart-asses with pretty good news stories refuting the lies of the right. for Enlightenment I'd suggest:
http://eserver.org/philosophy/kant/what-is-enlightenment.txt Political Activism and Enlightenment:
http://www.hermes-press.com/ Nuts and Bolts Enlightenment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enlightenment

>>> wouldn't it just be better if we never watched any of the major news affiliates, therefore making the ratings drop and that would hopefully force them to do real reporting or is that not how it works?
Yeah but then advertisers wouldn't advertise and prices would drop. Horrible. I SO need someone advertising food and clothes to me because otherwise I would never need them.

"Grouchy, senile 'old fuck' has little control over what he says."
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 23, 2004 10:54 PM
-------------------------------
"Election confuses erection promoter."

HAHAHAHA!

>>> three hours mapping defense strategy
That's a typo. It was three hours NAPPING defense strategy.

heh heh
"I have no special regard for Satan, but I can at least claim that I have no predjudice against him. It may even be that I have been a little in his favor, on account of his not having a fair show. All religions issue Bibles against him, but we never hear his side. We have none but the evidence for the presecution, and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind this is irregular. It is un-English, it is un-American.
Of course, Satan has some kind of a case, it goes without saying. It may be a poor one, but that is nothing; that can be said about any of us. As soon as I can get at the facts I will undertake his rehabilitation myself, if I can find an impolite publisher. It is a thing we ought to do for anybody who is under a cloud.
We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents. A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race, and political head of the whole of it, must be granted the posession of executive abilities of the loftiest order. In his large presence the other popes and politicians shrink to midgets for the microscope. I would like to see him. I would rather see him and shake him by the tail yhan any other member of the European Concert." --Mark Twain.

Crank, what would we do without you and your crank humor!!!

God bless You, Toni. Posted by Fishgrease at August 23, 2004 10:47 PM what is one to make of a self-proclaimed atheist granting God's blessing? sort a funny, in a second-handed loaning from Peter to pay Paul sort a way

I remember the "Weathermen" RADICALS PLOT BAD WEATHER
August 23, 2004 -- EXCLUSIVE A number of extremists with ties to the 1970s radical Weather Underground have recently been released from prison and are in New York preparing to wreak havoc during the Republican National Convention, The Post has learned. A top-level source with extensive knowledge of police plans wouldn't disclose the names of the aging rabble-rousers but said a handful of them are already here and will play a behind-the-scenes role in attempting to disrupt the GOP gala. "These people are trained in kidnapping techniques, bombmaking and building improvised munitions," the source said. "They've very bad people." "They're not likely to take direct action," the source continued, "but they'll be orchestrating operations." Originally called "The Weathermen," the anarchist organization came into existence in June 1969 as a radical splinter group of the Students for a Democratic Society. During a two-year stretch, the group bombed a number of high-profile government buildings, primarily to protest the Vietnam War and racism in America. http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/29286.htm

Just a reminder, the last post was from the New York Post. But I do remember the "Weathermen".

primarily to protest the Vietnam War and racism in America. Good things to protest, don't you think!!!

...satan...ppffffttt...

i wouldn't believe a word of it personally, although i'm sure rupert murdoch would love to see something like that happen.

sort a funny, in a second-handed loaning from Peter to pay Paul sort a way Posted by: at August 23, 2004 11:01 PM Nickless, I am uncertain how to take your posts right now. Are you just lashing out randomly to vent your spleen or are you kidding around?

I love this version of "Wish you Were Here". It's kinda like Muzak, but it's so high tempo that I almost can't keep up.

interesting subject imo.... In later Christian tradition Satan was described as the tempter, the accuser, the punisher, the leader of the fallen angels; and Christianity has always regarded Hell, the region of fiery torment below the earth, as Satan's realm. In the advent of God's kingdom, he and his demons will be ultimately defeated. Many other cultures outside the Hebrew tradition have a concept of a leader of the powers of darkness. The Babylonians, Chaldeans, and Persians believed in a dualism between the forces of darkness and light. Ahriman, in Zoroastrianism, and Seth, the god of evil in Egyptian mythology, and 'Mara' in Buddhism manifest characteristics similar to Satan's. Names for Satan include not only the usual demonic ones, but several popular ones, such as 'Prince of Darkness', 'Old Dragon', 'Old Horney', 'Old Nick', 'Old Scratch', 'Lusty Dick', 'Black Bogey', 'Old Gentleman', 'Angel of Rome', and 'Old Lad Himself', amongst others. http://www.occultopedia.com/s/satan.htm

'father of lies' and, i think, 'lord of the flies' as well

Bob "still a hack" Dole: newsflash nixon hatchet-man cum-erectile projectile fires fissile missile into liar's fires, then harrys-kerry and pushes-bush

Personally I think that Satan is defeated when the universe ends. Then it just BigBangs again and we start this whole thing over again. Like a waveform. What a drag, I may never get my mortgage paid off.

lord of the rings?

i wouldn't believe a word of it personally, although i'm sure rupert murdoch would love to see something like that happen. Posted by at August 23, 2004 11:06 PM I'm not believing it, this is what the neocons are trying to put accross. We are back to the 60's baby.
Same ole, same ole.

הילל hêylêl
hay-lale' From H1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning star: - lucifer.

with a names like these...'Old Horney'...'Lusty Dick'...'Black Bogey'....i guess it makes sense that some people are in denial of sex and sexuality...

sort a funny, in a second-handed loaning from Peter to pay Paul sort a way Posted by: at August 23, 2004 11:01 PM Nickless, I am uncertain how to take your posts right now. Are you just lashing out randomly to vent your spleen or are you kidding around? Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 23, 2004 11:07 PM no offense intended whatsoever thought it was an inadvertently funny comment in an ironical absurdist sense, tho i have a spleen that needs some venting, too you mind much?

Alice,
remember what we were discussing last night about hippys and the Viet Nam war.
The Neocons are trying to resurect the whole thing.

Apocalypse Later!

הילל hêylêl
hay-lale' From H1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning star: - lucifer.
Posted by: at August 23, 2004 11:13 PM
========================================
man i love that song, didn't know outkast had anything to do with satan. oh well makes them cooler in my eyes.

~~~ what is one to make of a self-proclaimed atheist granting God's blessing? ~~~ Better you should ask how the name of the most powerful being in the universe has been denegrated to a figure of speech... a simple wishing of good tidings.... when his very name once supposedly parted seas and killed, selectively, the first born males of entire populations.

The Neocons are trying to resurect the whole thing. Posted by at August 23, 2004 11:15 PM
yes i see tonid...(is that you?)
:)

Then it just BigBangs again and we start this whole thing over again. Like a waveform. -- very likely uncle sam tho the other half of the story might be that the universe grows consciousness to transcend time which is pretty easy for some folks like when you forget to look at the clock

Yes it is Alice,
the blog forgot me again.

Better you should ask how the name of the most powerful being in the universe has been denegrated to a figure of speech... a simple wishing of good tidings.... when his very name once supposedly parted seas and killed, selectively, the first born males of entire populations. Posted by: Fishgrease at August 23, 2004 11:17 PM
Pat Sajak did all that? Wow. He really gets around. Just goes to show that all those years of sucking up to evil prince of darkness Alex Trebek really paid off.

Posted by: Alice at August 23, 2004 11:13 PM The early Christian Empire (The Holy Roman one) wanted to suppress the elder religions of Greece and Rome. One of the most popular gods to worship was Pan, the little goat-footed all-father of yore. Pan, pangenitor; Pan, panphage. The association of Satan with Pan started out with the association of the image of Pan with Satan. The horns, the goat's lower body of Pan was associated by the Christian church with the ultimate evil their religion presented in order to suppress the Pan cults that were still so very popular among the people(Pan cults emphasized drunkeness and sex so they were *very* popular).

Want to read about that era? Check into
Abbie Hoffman
Here's a link... http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/Chicago7/hoffmanA.html

you mind much? Posted by: at August 23, 2004 11:14 PM Not at all. Just wanted to be sure you were kidding around. Usually, I'm much thicker skinned.

on the way to do errands today i saw that someone has painted giant rocks with dusty pink paint all up and down the road.... in one area they are much larger and grouped together...there are bible and rapture warnings painted in black on the large sized rocks... maybe made to match the pile of the same stuff on the other side of the road that has always been there....who knows?

>>> the other half of the story might be that the universe grows consciousness to transcend time Ok, now we're talking philosophy mixed with physics - I LOVE THAT. I so love that. I like to envision a singularity being God/Universe, and everything else being 'things'. Meditation and trauma can heighten the feeling of 'being at one with the universe', but each of us is relegated to being a 'sub-unit' of the overall Unit. That we can perceive a single entitity might exist shows that we are connected to that bery thing we feel we are apart from/of. Words will always make me look foolish when i discuss philosophy.

Check out the "Chicago Seven" http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/Chicago7/chicago7.html

"The power of hate is strong, but Love conquers all. God is Love."

excerpt of Apocalypse! by burroughs... When art leaves the frame and the written word leaves the page,-not merely the physical frame and page,but the frames and pages that assign the categories-
a basic disruption of reality itself occurs
The literal realization of art.
success will write apocalypse
across the sky
The artist aims for a miracle.
The painter wills her pictures to move off the canvas with a separate life
movement outside of the picture,
And one rent in the fabric is all it takes
for pandemonium to sluice thru... last act:THE END
This is where we all came in
The final apocalypse
is when everyone sees what they see feels what they feel hears what they hear...
the creatures of all your dreams and nightmares are right here right now solid as they ever were or
ever will be...

"Won't you please come to Chicago."

///0-0\\
John Lennon says: "Love is the answer!"

Not Pat Sajak, silly.... Judge Reinhold!

When you believe in something, you never stop trying.
One of the Chicago 7.... August 27, 1998
David Dellinger, aged 83, is arrested while demonstrating at a nuclear reactor.

That we can perceive a single entitity might exist shows that we are connected to that bery thing we feel we are apart from/of. Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:23 PM Actually, this as good a description of the perception of the integration of everything as any other one I have read. The Buddha described the experience as "a net of jewels where, at each node of the net a jewel is set that reflects all of the other jewels". Aleister Crowley outlined a ritual magick that would bring the same consciousness in "Magick in Theory and Practice". He called it the "Middle Pillar Ritual". Point...it was around here someplace...oh yeah...these experiences are almost impossible to describe. People who can express them best become artists and poets. The end of the video for "Parabol" by Tool is not a bad illustration of it.

Words will always make me look foolish when i discuss philosophy.
Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:23 PM
it's funny; words aren't my problem; i always make me look foolish when i talk philosophy, not words words never fail me tho' ideas often do being simple ain't easy

well, i wish the one true god of love would do something about american military aggression already Tat Tvam Asi: "tag, you're it"

Pan cults emphasized drunkeness and sex so they were *very* popular).
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 23, 2004 11:20 PM *were* very popular?!! hahaha....
(i don't care for drunkeness but...apparently biology has "done something to me"...at this particular age...)
************************ thanks for that link toni!...i'll check it out...my husband tells me stuff too...he's 10 years older than i am...he recently read the martin torgoff book can't find my way home and loved it!!!
******************* philosophy mixed with physics I LOVE THAT. me too! if it all gets mixed up maybe then it makes more sense? i don't know...it's like they're all pieces to something...
********* Words will always make me look foolish when i discuss philosophy.
Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:23 PM pantomime then maybe?....tee hee
:)

>>> the goat's lower body of Pan was associated by the Christian church with the ultimate evil Makes you wonder if the Jewish and Islamic revulsion at pork (animals with cloven hooves) has anything to do with it. Note that Hindus won't eat cows. If animals were sacred, why were some evil?

hey dada i sent you an email with tons of music links...did you ever get it? my friend told me that she cannot email me links...so i wonder if that meant that my outgoing ones weren't going either...

unify in order to know.
attracting healing,
seal the store of accomplishment
with the magnetic tone of purpose.
i am guided by my own power doubled...........

Thomas Hardy's prophetic poem, "The Man He Killed." "Had he and I but met
By some old ancient in,
We should have sat us down to wet
Right many a nipperkin! "But ranged as infantry,
And staring face to face,
I shot at him as he at me,
And killed him in his place "I shot him dead because--
Because he was my foe,
Just so: my foe of course he was;
That's clear enough; although "Yes; quaint and curious war is!
You shoot a fellow down
You'd treat, if met where any bar is
Or help to half-a-crown."2

Anyone ever see "The Usual Suspects"? "The greatest lie the Devil ever told was convincing the world that he did not exist." I still fear Kevin Spacey.

iblis' curse..... make wrong fair-seeming.................. ......................................

The activities of those millions who expressed public opposition to Washington's involvement in the U.S.-Indochinese War are well worth remembering, for they succeeded through their efforts in affecting both the conduct of U.S. war policies and the national self-image itself. There is no need to doubt the abiding belief held by peace-seekers in the 1960s that victory on Washington's terms in Viet Nam would be worse for the U.S. and world peace than any foreseeable alternative. "Victory in a war such as the United States is waging in Vietnam would demean our country more than defeat," The Nation asserted in 1965. "That is the crux of the opposition."4 http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Texts/Scholarly/Howlett_Doves_01.html

Makes you wonder if the Jewish and Islamic revulsion at pork (animals with cloven hooves) has anything to do with it. Note that Hindus won't eat cows. Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:33 PM Pork is considered taboo in Judaic and Islamic societies due to strictures of cleanliness imposed upon them by religion but, the root is really refrigeration. Before refrigeration, trichinosis and other diseases that were carried by swine ran roughshod over the tribal societies. Some smart, religious leaders noticed that people who ate pork or who herded swine tended to get sick(and die) more often than others; thus, to keep people from getting sick, they made eating pork illegal. The cow thing with the Hindus I'm not very clear on. I know it has something to do with a legend involving one of their major gods (Brahmin, I believe).

Washingtonpost finally writes something about Iraqi teens being abused in Abu Ghraib. When was the first time the blog reports this? 2 months ago? http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27048-2004Aug23?language=printer Iraqi Teens Abused at Abu Ghraib, Report Finds
Officials Say Inquiry Also Confirms 'Ghost Detainees'

Pork is considered taboo... I always thought the shellfish prohibition had something to do with red tide

Don't tell me it's not the same ole, same ole!!! What about those millions who protested? Is it not time to examine objectively and comprehensively the impact of antiwar actions during the Viet Nam conflict? One point must be made clear from the start, however. The opponents of the war found it always difficult, and often impossible, to agree on the best way of opposing it. One reason for this dissension within dissension was that the war was actually a secondary issue to many of the organizations most active in trying to end it. The dozen or so minor socialist and revolutionary groups in the United States made no secret of their primary interest in bringing down capitalism. The civil rights organizations were more concerned with injustice at home than war abroad. "I am not looked upon as an equal citizen in everyday life," said a black activist named John Otis Dumrall in December, 1966. "Why am I looked upon as an equal citizen when it comes time for me to report for induction?... I would feel just like the KKK over there. Denying those people freedom of choice, just like black people are denied freedom of choice in the U

hola...alicimo...lux de dada...dinot...etcetemaba.......

Hiya, "Tone-Id" ROFL!!!!! Hiya dada, Fishy!!! p :)

I always thought the shellfish prohibition had something to do with red tide Posted by: at August 23, 2004 11:43 PM Bingo. That planketon is bad poison...

hi 13ben...howz it going?

I know it might not be politically correct to believe in a God, or collective conciousness, but I do, and I think it communicates with each and everyone of us all the time. I understand the things Bush says, but I don't believe that he does. I don't believe in any of that crap that asks me to deny others. The ancient Jews realized they could take their church with them in their minds when they were taken to babylon and then forced to leave. I can take mine with me too, so long as i don't try to force it on you. Blah blah blah - It all works out in the mix.

sing it sammie

Father Lucifer you've never looked so sane,
You always did prefer the drizzle to the rain,
Tell me that you're still in love with that milk-maid,
How's your Lizzy? How's your Jesus Christ been hangin'?
-Tori Amos, "Father Lucifer"

Hey, Petey!

i saw those brahma bulls all over the place a few weeks ago on the way to l.a....weird they were every where i looked it seemed like...is that the same animal as the brahmin?

"...the most galling aspect of the whole Swift Boat Veterans nonsense...It has distracted us from realizing that our children still burn in Iraq, while simultaneously insulting every veteran who was given a medal for service in action. It implies that medals awarded for service in Vietnam somehow do not count, which when taken to the end of the argument, implies that medals awarded for service anywhere do not count." http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/082404A.shtml

DarkeningBolt - Thanks for the pork paragraph. That makes a lot of sense. I can vaguely remember being told not to eat raw pork as a kid because of trichinosis(sp?).

excellante.............. seeing how when i blipped in the 2 things i noticed we apocolypse (dada) and devil (unclesam)....... got a few paragraphs you might want thrown into the pot................ here's the first...... if you want more..... i'll keep em coming............
.................................... The key point in the consideration
of the Universal Religion is free will.
The Universal Religion is the necessary
accompaniment to free will, for free will
without the ethic of Universal Religion
becomes arrogance and insolence
in the face of the divine plan. The purpose of free will is to test
the intelligence of the soul
in determining whether it can align
its free will with the divine universal plan
or not. This is why the supreme injunction
of the Universal Religion is "Remember!"
This is also why the cosmology of the Qur'an,
as of all universal religion,
is first and foremost a moral cosmology. .................................................

Makes you wonder if the Jewish and Islamic revulsion at pork (animals with cloven hooves) has anything to do with it.
Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:33 PM
=============================================== I wonder if this has anything to do with the revulsion I experience when someone lights a cloven cigarette??? p :)

Sound familiar ? Vietnam War Protests

Many 1960s antiwar activists came to believe that the Viet Nam war was not a mistake but a deliberate attempt by a loosely-knit but powerful coalition that controlled the U.S. to retain a small but highly-regarded part of its empire, fueled by Cold War ideology. It followed, then, that the real cause of the Kent State shootings had been the desire of the Nixon administration to suppress domestic objections to its Viet Nam policy so that it could have more of a chance of successfully retaining Viet Nam for the capitalist world. Many in the antiwar and May 4th movements drew such conclusions; others did not. The antiwar movement of the 1960s was a broad and diverse coalition and many in it could agree that the war in Viet Nam was illegal and immoral without seeing it as a struggle to save Viet Nam for the capitalist world.
http://www.vietnam-war.info/protests/index.php

hey pete!! i REALLY appreciate you sending me the wedding invite...it'll go in my treasure box now as my first wedding invite...thanx petemoon
XOXOX

XOXOX
Posted by: Alice at August 23, 2004 11:50 PM
============================================= "I love you more!" p :)

Brahmin is an Indian caste - no? The ones with the string around they torsos? From my understanding they were like the Republicans. They were in power both in government and in the trades. You had to born a Brahmin, you could not ascend there, unless you bribed enough Brahmins to do it. Something like that only accurate. ;)

Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:44 PM I think that most people believe in some kind of God, whether they want to admit it to themselves or not. Scientists believe in math, stockbrokers believe in money...it's the quality of your personal God that counts. Are you a better person because of your beliefs? If you are, then I could care less what you choose to label your God. My folks are true Christians. They are kind, charitable, loving, unjudgemental people, unfortunately, most Christians do not live up to the name. Many Christians are not "Christ-like". They use Christianity as a dodge and they preach the Bible of fear and hatred. Me personally, I wrestle with the concept of God. I look at the universe in all of its glory and pain and I find that it must be conscious...it must have continuity. We are all the stuff of stars and we are all connected. Of course, that might just be the acid...;)

>>> I wonder if this has anything to do with the revulsion I experience when someone lights a cloven cigarette???
I do the same thing - it must be true! This may be an important sign from God! Holy Smokes!

Brahmin is an Indian caste - no?
Something like that only accurate. ;)
Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:53 PM
=============================================== Isn't the "affliction" suffered by upper crust, lily-white people from Connecticut that causes them to speak with their teeth clenched called, "Brahmin lockjaw?" p :)

Will you open your heart for 3 minutes? On Friday 3 September from 11:57 to 12:00. We’ll stop the whole town! Everyone in Aarhus will step out into the streets and city squares to hold hands in total silence focusing on love. Imagine a whole town joined together in love for the first time in world history! Our vision is to create the biggest manifestation of love ever seen in Denmark. Join us: go into the streets, take a break at work, stop school and university on Friday 3 September …. hold hands for 3 minutes! Open your heart and focus on love in deep silence – a whole town – together. Local television and radio will cover this loving event – whereever you are. http://www.aarhus-in-love.dk/

Brahmin is an Indian caste - no? The ones with the string around they torsos?
Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:53 PM The Brahmin are the religious, ruling caste of ancient India, so, yes, they are like Republicans! LOL!

This blog Folks!

The Maya long count of the trial of humanity begins at BC 3113 and endson winter solstice, AD 2012. As a count of days, the time of trial is aperiod of 1,872,000 kin or days. The number of kin is subdivided into thirteensets of 144,000 kin each, called baktuns. 144,000 is the number set asideby Allah to be free of Iblis' curse. Each baktun of slightly less than fourhundred years, or 20 generations, represents a cycle of opportunity forthe 144,000 to remember the original plan and to advance the cause of theUniversal Religion on Earth. History is the name given to the trial period measured by the Mayan baktuncount and represents the battleground between Iblis and the human soul.Iblis/Satan is actually the demon of human ego. Human ego arises in thezone between free will and the choice of remembering. To listen to Satan,who is ever active in the trial period, is to give in to ego, and followthe lower course of listening to one's own base desires. When history begins,knowledge of the universal ethic and religion is already forgotten amongmany of the Children of Adam. Only messengers can remember, and throughthe remembrance of the messengers can be read the history of Universal Religionon Earth.

Holy Smokes!
Posted by: UncleSam at August 23, 2004 11:55 PM
================================================= (*spews Heineken and then R's OFL!!!!!!*) p :)

Me personally, I wrestle with the concept of God.
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 23, 2004 11:53 PM
=============================================== I wouldn't believe in any God who would have me as his creation. p :)

Me personally, I wrestle with the concept of God.
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 23, 2004 11:53 PM
=============================================== I wouldn't believe in any God who would have me as his creation. p :) Posted by: petemoon at August 23, 2004 11:58 PM This would be the Groucho God! "Hello I must be...going!"

I wouldn't believe in any God who would have me as his creation. p :)
.......................................... if i can believe in you.... than the heart of the universe can believe in you too.......... (:

Most jews feel no revulsion over pork - that particular dietary law is now considered a matter of tradition in industrialist societies. Being buried in a pig skin won't send them to hell.
In Islam, pigs are considered spiritually unclean as well, so a person wrapped in a pig skin is trapped in hell. In India, the sacred staus of cows is due to the use of cow dung for fuel. Their weather makes clearcutting inadvisable, so burning wood for fuel would be a very bad idea.

The most dramatic opposition to the war came from the soldiers themselves. Between 1960 and 1973, 503,926 members of the US armed forces deserted. Many soldiers began to question the morality of the war once they began fighting in Vietnam. One soldier, Keith Franklin, wrote a letter that was only to be opened on his death. He was killed on May 12, 1970: "If you are reading this letter, you will never see me again, the reason being that if you are reading this I have died. The question is whether or not my death has been in vain. The answer is yes. The war that has taken my life and many thousands before me is immoral, unlawful and an atrocity... I had no choice as to my fate. It was predetermined by the war-mongering hypocrites in Washington. As I lie dead, please grant my last request. Help me inform the American people, the silent majority who have not yet voiced their opinions." http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/VNprotest.htm

Posted by: blue magnetic hand (13ben) at August 23, 2004 11:57 PM
=============================================== If that was in ALL CAPS, I'd suspect that you were Patrioterer in disguise!!! p :)

"I love you more!"
p :)
Posted by: petemoon at August 23, 2004 11:52 PM fun!!
...i'm swooning and melting pete moon... "Brahmin lockjaw?" lmao!!
son of a bing - son of a bam
time for pete...
**************************** i'll be back in a bit...
dishes and laundry call glad you're back pete.

>>> upper crust, lily-white people from Connecticut "The rain, in Spain, falls mainly, on the POOR." --------------------------------------- I think 13Ben has just laid out an amazing refrain of the truth. Is that ad-lib or did you cut-n-paste it?? It doesn't matter except to compliment your ego - well done!

God is not the heart of the universe. God is a very fast mexican mouse in a tiny sombrero.

you dont have to believe in a god in order to realize the universe as a vibrant being that exists as more than the limited spectrum of radiant light that our eyes see..... the is a cosmic/galactic/divine (call it what ever you want)
order underlying the apparent chaos............ it lies in understanding the cyclical as well as harmonic nature of natural time... if you think that you are all there is that keeps you alive............. then where does the electricity that beats your heart come from..................

This would be the Groucho God! "Hello I must be...going!"
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 24, 2004 12:00 AM
==================================================
Are you the famous Captain Spaulding? the African Explorer?
if i can believe in you.... than the heart of the universe can believe in you too..........
Posted by: blue magnetic hand (13ben) at August 24, 2004 12:00 AM
==================================================
Yeah, okay, I can go with "heart of the universe." As long as there's no paper-wafers and sweet wine involved, I'm cool. :) p :)

God is not God. God is the spirit that exists in your being
Exists in the planets, the sun, the moon and the stars
God is the energy of the child you once were
God is love
God is the moment of orgasm
God is great

WOW Toni D. I never read that. The foresight and the sadness is so bittersweet. I was in my formative years when that war was in full swing. Whenever I asked about it no one would talk. Right now I feel like I do whenever I hear MLK's last "I have a dream" speech. So sad, sad sad. The poignancy of what is being said and the urgency to change it transcend the sadness. Bittersweet doesn't describe the intensity. Dang it.

You all are in a different area than I am tonight.
But I need the rest so ...Good Night all.
Reccommend you read those posts I left. May open your eyes to what is ahead. G'night!!!

PEASE TELL ME I’M WRONG I think we're coming up against another brick wall in this election. It just seems like the republicans have all the cards in their deck. They have the governor of Florida, the Supreme Court, both houses of congress and even the guy who's making the electronic voting machines. There's just too may areas where they can play dirty pool and get away with it. Seriously where is the outrage? I mean outside of the 45% of us you don’t even hear these things being brought up. If this is another close one as it appears it will be then we’re in trouble.

I know people who are fairly intelligent who just don’t see a thing wrong with Bush. They say “everyone knows the former president is responsible for the next president’s economy.” Or they argue abortion is murder yet say nothing about the slaughter in Iraq. It’s like we’re stuck in this bizzaro universe where up is down and down is up. Nothing you say even seems to register with people. All these people see Bush as this great man of god who just so loves our military. Yet here he is doing everything I was told Christ taught not to do. He’s starting wars, screwing the poor and then smearing decorated war veterans. Not to mention cutting benefits and not providing armor for our current troops. I think Janeane maybe on to something when she said there certain portion of the population who are into golden showers. I mean that’s basically what they are doing to us, pissing on us.

ad-lib or did you cut-n-paste it....
.............................................. part of info given by one of the only humans that floated close enough to my path for me to consider them a teacher of mine.............. but literally they are essenses of words that have been created by us all and stored on my compooter.................not the first time thought....
....................
it should be apparent what stuff i post is prepared and whats sponty......

Good Night Toni D! ~Thank You~

On Angels All was taken away from you: white dresses,
wings, even existence.
Yet I believe you,
messengers.

There, where the world is turned inside out,
a heavy fabric embroidered with stars and beasts,
you stroll, inspecting the trustworthy seems.

Shorts is your stay here:
now and then at a matinal hour, if the sky is clear,
in a melody repeated by a bird,
or in the smell of apples at close of day
when the light makes the orchards magic.

They say somebody has invented you
but to me this does not sound convincing
for the humans invented themselves as well.

The voice -- no doubt it is a valid proof,
as it can belong only to radiant creatures,
weightless and winged (after all, why not?),
girdled with the lightening.

I have heard that voice many a time when asleep
and, what is strange, I understood more or less
an order or an appeal in an unearthly tongue:

day draw near
another one
do what you can.
Czeslaw Milosz
b.
June 30, 1911
died
Aug. 14 -2004

I wouldn't believe in any God who would have me as his creation.
p :)
.......................................... if i can believe in you.... than the heart of the universe can believe in you too..........
(:
Posted by: blue magnetic hand (13ben) at August 24, 2004 12:00 AM This is one of the coolest things I've read on the blog, 13Ben. (and I shore this fragment against my ruin thank you very much TSElliot).

lol shorts=short

I think Janeane maybe on to something when she said there certain portion of the population who are into golden showers. I mean that’s basically what they are doing to us, pissing on us.
Posted by mr. bungle at August 24, 2004 12:11 AM *******************************************
unfortunately dude yr just preachin to the choir, we all know these things, so do alot of others. truth is they don't care. they've got a nice shiny car, some food in the fridge and a cushy job and thats all they want

The poem from Milosz sounds very much like Rilke. Are you familiar? Milosz=Hungarian?

polish

Opening Prayer For The RNC: Heavenly Chief Executive Officer, give us POWER. We need POWER to spread your word in its purest form; we need POWER to bend over little Iraqi boys and bugger them the way Jesus intended; we need POWER to keep the godless brown people from destroying our Holy American Lifeways. You will give us power, heavenly father, because we DESERVE it, because we're the right color, the right religion, and faithful lords of this earthly domain you have given us. It's what you made us for, so you HAVE to give us power. Go along to get along, God... Karl Rove has a file on you too, pal. AMEN.

"Or they argue abortion is murder"
- on convincing Bushies to vote Kerry I heard it this way: 1. Regardless of who is president, people will still have sex and some of them will have abortions. 2. If Bush is anti abortion - why is it that in 3.5 years with the most powerful soapbox in the world AND a Pro-Life Congress - he can't get people to stop having abortions? 3. See #1. Ask them if spending money on sex education is more moral than spending money to kill people.

dear god
from xtc is a good song too.

I ask because half of my ancestors are Hungarians, and the family names contain the "sz" combination (Tuszkes, Szabo), dropped upon immigration to America. I didn't know the Poles had it too...

A Poem For the End of the Century

When everything was fine
And the notion of sin had vanished
And the earth was ready
In universal peace
To consume and rejoice
Without creeds and utopias, I, for unknown reasons,
Surrounded by the books
Of prophets and theologians,
Of philosophers, poets,
Searched for an answer,
Scowling, grimacing,
Waking up at night, muttering at dawn. What oppressed me so much
Was a bit shameful.
Talking of it aloud
Would show neither tact nor prudence.
It might even seem an outrage
Against the health of mankind. Alas, my memory
Does not want to leave me
And in it, live beings
Each with its own pain,
Each with its own dying,
Its own trepidation. Why then innocence
On paradisal beaches,
An impeccable sky
Over the church of hygiene?
Is it because that
Was long ago? To a saintly man
--So goes an Arab tale--
God said somewhat maliciously:
"Had I revealed to people
How great a sinner you are,
They could not praise you." "And I," answered the pious one,
"Had I unveiled to them
How merciful you are,
They would not care for you." To whom should I turn
With that affair so dark
Of pain and also guilt
In the structure of the world,
If either here below
Or over there on high
No power can abolish
The cause and the effect? Don't think, don't remember
The death on the cross,
Though everyday He dies,
The only one, all-loving,
Who without any need
Consented and allowed
To exist all that is,
Including nails of torture. Totally enigmatic.
Impossibly intricate.
Better to stop speech here.
This language is not for people.
Blessed be jubilation.
Vintages and harvests.
Even if not everyone
Is granted serenity. Czeslaw Milosz

Who translated the Milosz poem? I have a translation of poems by my favorite poet, Rilke, but it's not satisfactory...
:-(

ah- well, not my area, but believe I've heard it
in Polish names in other cases.

Alice, are you posting from a website, or do you have a book of his poetry? Sorry to be so insistant, but it's hitting a nerve.

Hiya, C-Sea!!! Rilke ROCKS!!! p :)

i just grabbed it from the net- he wrote in english as well, & if I amthat one may have beenoriginally english, the cut and paste job
however, could have used a tranlator
I pulled from a poor source sorry. :)

You see, I want a lot. Perhaps I want everything: the darkness that comes with every infinite fall and the shivering blaze of every step up. So many live on and want nothing, and are raised to the rank of prince by the slippery ease of their light judgements. But what you love to see are faces that do work and feel thirst. You love most of all those who need you as they need a crowbar or a hoe. You have not grown old, and it is not too late to dive into your increasing depths where life calmly gives out its own secret. -r.m.r.

alright..............
5 years ago i attended the 'World Summit on Peace and Time' in costa rica, at the UN University for Peace in Santa Ana................. the purpose was for a collective of all the earths peoples to come under a common banner...
and create a document drafted by 7 commisions, built with members from cultures from all continents (except anartica (sorry))..... 7 commisions...
Time...Education...Wealth...Biosphere...Spirituality...Peace...Art and Culture i was co-speaker for the Commission on Time...
.........................
Article I.
Resolution of the Commission on Time Preamble In order to return to an original wisdom and safeguard the future evolutionary unfoldment of the human species, we, the people of planet Earth, call for the establishment of a harmonious measure of time. To prevent the further desecration of the biosphere, this measure must reflect the natural pulse of the planet. Time is primarily a function of consciousness and has a much richer structure than can be modeled with the linear geometry of three-dimensional space. Our analysis demonstrates that the mechanical clock and the Gregorian Calendar are artificial and entropic time-templates the following of which has a discordant effect on the conduct of the human mind, adversely influencing the entire fabric of global civilization. This adverse influence is due to the way that the species-wide use of these humanly contrived time-defining systems throws the patterns of human life out of phase with the life-giving rhythms of the biosphere as a whole, effectively disconnecting humanity from nature. The Calendar of Peace catalyzes a global shift in consciousness by the harmonization of the human species with the natural order of its life support systems. In the course of our research we have become convinced that to elevate the quality of human experience and deepen our reverence for all life, the realm of natural time must be entered wholeheartedly. To live and grow in natural time we declare to be a universal human right.

http://www.poemhunter.com here ya go miss cathy...drkhrs freaked me out because i was going to post Czeslaw Milosz earlier tonight but didn't...then i saw that post...so i dug up that one that i like from that site...
:)

Petey, I'm so glad I share this love of Rilke with you! Most people haven't heard of him... Did you know that it was his poetry which inspired the German film "Wings of Desire"
(my favorite film of all time)

Yeah Alice - what gives with the poignancy?
That stuff's good. I wish I wasn;t so tired so I could listen/read more. I need to digest it and so to sleep.
Good night everyone: 71 more days [x] Kerry
[ ] Evil Bastard

i would like to bring up the fact that their is a band called rainer maria, and they do indeed "rock" as well********

Good night Uncle Sam.

Did you know that it was his poetry which inspired the German film "Wings of Desire"
(my favorite film of all time)
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 24, 2004 12:30 AM
============================================ I did not. I'll check my local offbeat video store!!! p :) p.s. didn't know about the band, either.

Michigan paper article about Juan Cole:
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6648

there's always a lot of digesting for me too when people write about love and god and angels and "all that" too uncle sam...it'll be awhile til i get it all out of this thread... mmm mmm goooood cookin eh? (i'll get back to you after i look up poignancy)
lol....
:)
good night
see you
next time
i hope

yeah-alice- been in back of my mind since hearing of his death but certainly a full life -93
***********************
enjoyed pete

g'night all you sweet people

Here's one for you, Pete~ The First Elegy Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the angels' hierarchies?
And even if one of them suddenly pressed me against his heart, I would perish in the embrace of his stronger existance.
For beauty is nothing but the beginning of terror which we are barely able to endure
and are awed because it serenly disdains to anniihilate us.
Each singel angel is terrifying.
And so I force myself, swallow and hold back the surging call of my dark sobbing.
Oh, to whom can we turn to for help?
Not angels, not humans: and even the knowing animals are aware that we feel little secure and at home in our interpreted worl.
etc
Rainer Maria Rilke
translated by Albert E. Flemming
goodnight ceres~

goodnight, Alice~

http://www.wim-wenders.com/movies/movies_spec/wingsofdesire/wingsofdesire.htm Wings of Desire by Wim Wenders (1987) not to be confused with insipid American knock-off with Meg Ryan and Nick Cage.

Ooooh -- here's another old favorite that was in the same folder as the Rilke:
================================================
I think it’s a mistake to ever look for hope outside of one’s self. One day the house smells of fresh bread, the next of smoke and blood. One day you faint because the gardener cut his finger off, within a week you’re climbing over the corpses of children bombed in a subway. What hope can there be if that is so? I tried to die near the end of the war. The same dream returned each night until I dared not to sleep and grew quite ill. I dreamed I had a child, and even in the dream I saw it was my life, and it was an idiot, and I ran away. But it crept onto my lap again, clutched at my clothes. Until I thought, if I could kiss it, whatever in it was my own, perhaps I could sleep. And I bent to its broken face, and it was horrible . . . but I kissed it. I think one must finally take one’s life in one’s arms. -- Arthur Miller, After the Fall

7 commisions...
Time...Education...Wealth...Biosphere...Spirituality...Peace...Art and Culture i was co-speaker for the Commission on Time...
KICK ASS COOL FUN...!!
********************** good night ceres...i've been liking your posts...you're name...is that the name of the statue on top of the chicago board of trade? i can't remember its like the god of agriculture or something...eh..whatever...night night...
******************************* yeah-alice- been in back of my mind since hearing of his death but certainly a full life -93 that tripped me out man...i would explain but...
ya know...

>>I dreamed I had a child, and even in the dream I saw it was my life, and it was an idiot, and I ran away.<< reminds me of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Creating something we just can't love. As oppose to Ann Rice whose Vampires create things incapable of loving them back as much as they are loved by their creator. Either way, it's the human condition, although as a mother I can relate more to Ann Rice.

Autumn Landscape
Drop by drop rain slaps the banana leaves.
Praise whoever sketched this desolate scene: the lush, dark canopies of the gnarled trees,
the long river, sliding smooth and white. I lift my wine flask, drunk with rivers and hills.
My backpack, breathing moonlight, sags with poems. Look, and love everyone.
Whoever sees this landscape is stunned. *******************************************8
night ceres alice cathy pete et all *crashing* I shift my pillow
closer to the
full moon.
(Saiba 1858)

. . . as a mother I can relate more to Ann Rice.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 24, 2004 12:47 AM
================================================ Oh, yeah? I wanna have a little talk with your kids!!!!! p :)

Article IV. Commission on the Biosphere Acknowledging: -That peace is the process of respecting the principles of nature through which all life exists.
-That seeds, fertile soils, pure waters, and natural time cycles are the basis for all plant and animal life on Earth, including humanity.
-That only freely available organic seeds can guarantee the continuity of life, and
-That local self-sufficiency is basic to a viable world economy.

Ho Xuan Huong translated from the Vietnamese by John Balaban
Autumn Landscape oops thought I had authorship

Ho Xuan Huong translated from the Vietnamese by John Balaban
Autumn Landscape oops thought I noted authorship

Ho Xuan Huong translated from the Vietnamese by John Balaban
Autumn Landscape oops thought I noted authorship

Ceres...goddess of grain/agriculture whose daughter is persephone. When ceres mourns the loss of persepone the year goes into winter. When persephone re-emerges from the underworld we experience spring and summer. hope I remembered that right.

on second thought miss cathy...i feel sort of funky light headed right now so i'm going to go "yoga it off"...good night for now...loved all the stuff and will be reading this thread for days on end i'm sure...
:)
xoxoxo

And . . . come to think of it . . . how come I haven't heard anybody singing this lately? ================================================= I’ve heard it all before!
-- from Shenandoah
-- music by Gary Geld
-- lyrics by Peter Udell
-------------------------------
Stand and show your colors,
Let’s all go to war,
The Lord will surely bless us,
I’ve heard it all before! I’ve heard it all,
A hundred times,
I’ve heard it all before,
They’ve always got a holy cause,
To march you off to war. Tyranny or justice,
Anarchy or law,
We must defend our honor,
I’ve heard it all before! I’ve heard it all,
A hundred times,
I’ve heard it all before,
They’ve always got a holy cause,
That’s worth the dying for. Someone writes a slogan,
Raises up a flag,
Someone finds an enemy to blame.
The trumpet sounds the call to arms,
To leave the cities and the farms,
And always, the ending is the same,
The same,
The same,
The same. The dream has turned to ashes,
The wheat has turned to straw,
And someone asks the question,
What was the dying for? The living can’t remember,
The dead no longer care,
But next time, it won’t happen,
Upon my soul I swear! I’ve heard it all,
A hundred times,
I’ve heard it all before,
Don’t tell me it’s different now!
I’ve heard it all,
I’ve heard it all,
I’ve heard it all before!

Oh!! Alice!!! Thought I'd missed you while I was typing!!! Nighty-night, sweetie!!!!! p :)

goodnight drkhrs thanks for your posts...

g'nite alicimo............ i better split too....................
everyone else........ i salute..............

Good Night all you sleepy heads! Diggin' the poetry tonight. Sad about everything that Malloy is talking about tho'

goodnight again, Miss Alice, this has been a special edition of the blog...

goodnight 13ben,
I am sleepy too, and now melancholy. Eastern European poets will do that to me. Hit me where I live, being 1/2 Hungarian and all... Goodnight all who's left, and Pete, my existentialist friend....

Goodnight all who's left, and Pete, my existentialist friend....
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 24, 2004 12:58 AM
============================================ Nighty-night, C-Sea, sleep tight. p :) p.s. A friend of mine once said he wanted to get a job painting the white letters on those green signs for the interstate highways, 'cause then, his job title would be "Exit Stencilist." p :)

13ben...there are way too many topics that i'm salivating at the thought of discussing with you...the blog isn't big enough imo for all of it...i emailed you as well and since i haven't heard back from you i can't tell if you received it or not...
******************** pete moon...sayin "sweetie" does not help a light head...lol...i gets all a flitter ya know...
:)
**************** xoxox
l8r
A.L.I.C.E. bot

and now melancholy
..................................................
so i leave you with this............
............................
Everything you see has its roots in the unseen world.
The forms may change, yet the essence remains the same.
Every wonderful sight will vanish, every sweet word will fade,
But do not be disheartened,
The source they come from is eternal, growing,
Branching out, giving new life and new joy.
Why do you weep?
The source is within you
And this whole world is springing up from it. sufi

Wow. You guys are scared pantsless, huh? After the 100 punds of feces slung at Bush43 by multiple 527s and millions upon millions and millions of dollars, 1 pound slung back by just 1 527 with under a quarter of a million bucks has gotten a lot of panties in a bunch. I guess the truth hurts. The whining about all this is only going to expose the liberal 527s and the agendas and FAR greater millions and connections to the DNC and Kerry behind them. Woops, ya shoulda thought before you lept. Anyhoo. Been basking in the sun. Hanging with the ghost of Rick James, we read _Unfit For Command_ even tho the Kerry censors tried to stop us with their liberal lawsuits and angry lawyer letters to TV stations and booksellers. I guess freedom of speech only applies to the "proper" kind of speech, eh Rick?? Rick was also wondering why it's so hard to find John Kerry's lovely tome, _The New Soldider_. Well, Rick. It's because years ago Kerry bought up most copies when running for other offices because they were quite embarassing. Copies go for $350-500 on eBay now. But an enterprising person has PDFed it for the masses online at $15 a hit. Tho one could probably find it for closer to $0. PS, I'm acquainted with the ghost of Rick James and I'm back, bitches. PPS, I took 10 minutes to cobble together and read the results of a script to pull down threads from the last few weeks and grep out keywords to track any potential loser nic stealers. Nothing major. Surprising. And not. I did notice before they only come out to play when I am here. But I did notice a new fan I'd never been aware of. She (??) expressed remorse at my absence. I think my last thread was when I had a hissyfit because Darlene could not get thru her head that I was not the large Canadian child the incorrect and less-than-stellar-researchers here came up with as "me" and everyone pointed and laughed at the fat kid (always a compassionate move by the way). This post is for you, Alice.

quick............. phungyboy is here......... everybody run.......................... those who stay.................... dont look directly at the POSTS......................... choose LOVE, not HATE phungyboy..............

Now I am near tears...! Time for bed and maybe I'll dream of the impchild who is my life....

sufi
Posted by: blue magnetic hand (13ben) at August 24, 2004 01:01 AM
============================================ Thanks, ben!!! One of my brothers is a sufi, but I've never looked into it at all, their writings, that is -- just dismissed them as a bunch of dizzy twirlers. Shame on me. :( p :)

Speaking of Kerry's book:
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=NewSoldier

you are a beautiful light to the world seacat.... muchas gracias.............. buenos suenos......................

PHUNGUS!!! no wonder i had a headache!!
(ahhh..i'm razzin ya) where have you been? (and yes you read correctly...when you left...i noticed and i thought and wrote that i recalled that it was in fact that very night you describe...)
:) Alice

HILARIOUS: Currently this is the top user review on Amazon.com for "Unfit for Command", the book by "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" about Kerry in Vietnam. I don't know when Amazon might take it down, so I thought I'd cut & paste it here: "Reviewer: Bob Davis (Berkeley, CA) - See all my reviews

I appreciate the effort these men went to, to try to clarify for us all what really happened in Vietnam oh-so-many years ago, and it was such a good read, really a pleasant book, so of course I recommend it to anyone looking for a good summer read. However, they haven't convinced me of their point - that Kerry was AWOL for the Vietnam War - and so I have trouble giving a whole-hearted endorsement of this book. I guess I'm a bit conflicted - it was a good read, but as a political book it was ineffective. I want to praise the authors and to criticize them too. I feel the book would have been better if it had really delved into the minutiae of why exactly it was that Kerry was seen in Alabama for a dentist appointment, but not for his flight physical. Especially on page 132 where the authors reprint his pay stubs, I guess I'm confused why they didn't go all the way and just interview the men he served with. Thank you for the pleasant times and I hope to read your next book. -Bob Davis
www.bobdavisart.com "

goodnite P:)

Dish Network doesn't carry TRIO. Pissed.

Wouldn't expect our resident phungal infection to be able to distinguish between one organization accepting the hard-earned, $10 and $20 donations of tens of millions of concerned citizens, looking to have their opinion voiced, versus an organization funded entirely by one or two fat-cat bigots who, for some inexplicable reason, he thinks would give him the time of day if he asked. p :)

Bush puts up, Kerry stays shut up and silent?? Of course he does. Like he can afford to not take that fat fat Soros $$$. --
Bush criticized the groups' first commercial and all other outside group attack ads - many of which have targeted his own re-election. "That means that ad, every other ad," he said. "I can't be more plain about it. And I wish - I hope my opponent joins me in saying - condemning these activities of the 527s. It's - I think they're bad for the system. That's why I signed the bill, McCain-Feingold." Bush's comment about 527s was a reference to independent groups that raise money in unlimited amounts. The so-called McCain-Feingold bill, a campaign finance overhaul bill which Bush signed reluctantly earlier in his term, banned the political parties from raising such funds. While Kerry and Democrats have demanded that Bush condemn the attack on his war record, the president has been targeted by an estimated $60 million in commercials by outside groups since the campaign began. Kerry has declined to call for an end to those ads, which helped him at a time when he did not have the funds to compete with Bush' campaign advertising budget. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040823/D84L7OKG0.html

I hope my opponent joins me in saying - condemning these activities of the 527s. It's - I think they're bad for the system.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 01:12 AM
=============================================== Oh. So, Bush thinks free speech is "bad for the system." It all makes sense now. p :)

I'm so dumb I swallow everything that is against my own self interest. In short, I like getting pissed on by the greedy extremist right wingers.

Does anyone here know about cats? Are they "progressives"?

//
Wouldn't expect our resident phungal infection to be able to distinguish between one organization accepting the hard-earned, $10 and $20 donations of tens of millions of concerned citizens, looking to have their opinion voiced, versus an organization funded entirely by one or two fat-cat bigots who, for some inexplicable reason, he thinks would give him the time of day if he asked. p :) Posted by: petemoon at August 24, 2004 01:10 AM
// Hi to you too! And what org would that be? Do you honestly think you can find a major one not backed by major outside money or linked to former Clinton lackeys? Sure they take the activists suckers PayPal bucks. As an aside to the major outside money of Soros, Heinz-Kerry, foreign donors who are not even US citizens, etc, etc. Please detail these pure orgs of yours.

//
PHUNGUS!!! no wonder i had a headache!!
(ahhh..i'm razzin ya) where have you been? (and yes you read correctly...when you left...i noticed and i thought and wrote that i recalled that it was in fact that very night you describe...)
:) Alice Posted by: Alice at August 24, 2004 01:07 AM
// Been around, just not here. Been sunning. Reading. Rpaping with Rick James. Yeah, I think the last thread I was on was sniping with DBC. I just got sick of repeating myself. DBC was unfortunately the victim of an old trick. If you repeat a lie often enough, most people think it's the truth. She swore up and down she saw pictures of me that came from my website. Some other Phungus entirely that some idjit here merely assumed (Probably wantingly, as it's always funny to make fun of fat kids, right people?? Cough.) was me because their cognitive research skills just plain ole suck. Oh. Also been busy taping every single enthralling moment of every NBC telecast of the Olympics, and watching it all at least twice. NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, Telemundo, USA, Bravo, HDTV.

Does anyone here know about cats? Are they "progressives"? Posted by Roman & Dolly at August 24, 2004 01:17 AM how obvious can you possibly be mr j.b.?

//
I'm so dumb I swallow everything that is against my own self interest. In short, I like getting pissed on by the greedy extremist right wingers. Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 01:17 AM
// Wow. The nic stealing lameass poser thief is back. You are such an inspiration to...well, I guess other dumbasses like yourself?

I've cracked the code: it's rubbish It's the book they're all talking about on the beach this summer. . . more fool them, says a disappointed Christopher Howse All along the Mediterranean littoral, tourists awake to find their torsos marked with pale oblong patches, 178mm by 196mm. This is the mark of Da Vinci. It's what happens when you fall asleep in the sun with a copy of The Da Vinci Code carelessly open on your body.

Dan Brown's novel has sold six million copies, and its 605 pages seem just the thing to shove in the hand-luggage for a holiday read. But, goodness, it has annoyed people. Presses turn day and night printing books rebutting every error in Brown's fat farrago: The Da Vinci Hoax; Da Vinci Code Decoded; Cracking the Da Vinci Code. Somehow, they add up to more copies than the original. The reason for the anger is that the novel says rude things about Jesus and the Church. In that respect, it's a sort of Satanic Verses, only even worse written. "Everyone in the reception area gaped in wonderment at the half-naked albino offering forth a bleeding clergyman," is an example of the stylistic register. Yes, it's rude about albinos, too. The baddy is an albino. This is to make him creepy. Just as Blind Pew, tap-tapping along in Treasure Island is creepy, or Quilp in Little Dorrit is creepy because he's a hunchback, so is the assassin Silas, because he is albino. Albinos are not amused. Silas the albino is supposed to be an Opus Dei "monk" in the novel. Not that members of Opus Dei are monks. But what's the point in pointing out all the errors? It's like Boots loyalty cards: life is too short. I mean, Brown has Pope Clement V burning Templars whose ashes are "tossed unceremoniously in the Tiber River"; but Clement lived in Avignon and never went to Rome. Who cares? Never mind little facts when the big plot's so absurd. Jesus was married to Mary Magdalen, and the proof of that is that Leonardo Da Vinci shows her leaning against him in The Last Supper. You thought that was St John? Think again. You see, the Church has kept the Magdalen marriage secret because she had a baby by Jesus, and this secret was passed on by the Templar

oh yeah..the olympics...me too...
:) i'm sorry i have to go phungus
but i suppose you'll be coming around again right? ...be sure to come packed and fully loaded when you do too..the bloggerz have only become more powerful since you left.... love you!
nite again..

You see, the Church has kept the Magdalen marriage secret because she had a baby by Jesus, and this secret was passed on by the Templars and the "Priory of Sion". And that's proved by the Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland and the Temple Church in London. And Isaac Newton knew the secret, and so did Victor Hugo. And the Roman Catholic Church will do anything to make sure people don't find out the secrets of the Gnostic Gospels; so albinos will kill you if you buy a copy of The Da Vinci Code at the airport. Not so much a plot as a conspiracy. And haven't we heard it before? What about The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, written by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln in 1982? That featured the marriage of Jesus and Mary Magdalen, and the Templars, and the Priory of Sion in the French town of Annemasse, sworn to the return to power of the Merovingians (descendants of Mary Mag). Oh, and a sprig of Rosicrucianism for the pot. At one level, one doesn't know whether to weep with laughter or with frustration that people can be taken in. It is all of a piece with a sort of Daily Mail headline: "Is this code the secret to the Bible?" (or the Pyramids, or Flying Saucers, according to the week). A desire to believe it is the same appetite that goes for Madonna's red-string Kabbalah. The pedigree of The Da Vinci Code is clear. It derives from a shivery kind of Gothic novel of which the archetype is Ambrosio, or The Monk, published in 1796 by Matthew "Monk" Lewis, of whom Byron wrote: Wonder-working Lewis, Monk or Bard
Who fain wouldst make Parnassus a churchyard;
Even Satan's self with thee might dread to dwell,
And in thy skull discern a deeper hell.
That novel had a nun immured by a sadistic Mother Superior, clutching to her bosom a long-dead baby, plus hooded figures, rotting corpses and the depraved Ambrosio, Abbot of the Capuchins of Madrid (never mind that Capuchins don't have abbots, this is fiction). In Lewis's day, "monkish" was a synonym for wickedly ignorant; respectable churchgoers were convinced the Pope was Antichrist.
Translate the genre to modern times and anyone can spin a conspiracy tale based on the premise that what you see in

//
Oh. So, Bush thinks free speech is "bad for the system." It all makes sense now. p :) Posted by: petemoon at August 24, 2004 01:14 AM
// He and Kerry have a lot in common then huh? Kerry tries to threaten TV stations via lawsuits over the ads. Kerry complains to the FEC about the ads. Kerry complains to book retailers about the book. A champion of free speech he is not. I'm of the opinion that M/F was a mistake, and a violation in some aspects of free speech. And see what has happened? Other demons have sprung up because of it, to get around it, that are in ways much worse. Doom on Congress and Bush for M/F in the way it was passed.

http://www.post1.com/home/kktanhp/reincarnation_htm.htm

And what org would that be?
Please detail these pure orgs of yours.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 01:18 AM
=============================================== MoveOn.org PAC was the one I had in mind. If by "Clinton lackey," you mean the 68% of U.S. Citizens who gave him a favorable job rating at the end of his term, and are giving whatever we can afford to MoveOn to do whatever is neccesary to end the reign of terror of the Warmonger-In-Chief, then, guilty as charged! But, seriously, do you have some information about large donations to MoveOn? I haven't researched their funding. Have you? p :)

Introduction to the Technology of Oneness
If you want to change a person, change his behavior -- if you want to change him a lot, change his paradigm. (Principle Centered Leadership by Steven R. Covey) This information has changed my paradigm -- it will change yours. Why do I lecture and write under the Pen Name, David Allisone? Primarily for the protection of my family -- to avoid having them feeling like they have to apologize for the beliefs that I have. Also, I find that David Allisone can think more freely and take certain positions without feeling restrained by some type of pre-existing mold that shaped my thinking in the past. MY PATH: Baptist, Catholic wife, Unitarian, Agnostic, ARE/Taoist/Unity/Rel. Science/LDS. I have always been a seeker and I continue to follow truth where ever it leads me. I am a Christian I am a Jew I am a Hindu I am a Muslim I am a Baha’ i I am a Buddhist I am a Mormon David Allisone Where all religions meet -- there is One God. (Cayce)

Translate the genre to modern times and anyone can spin a conspiracy tale based on the premise that what you see in the Catholic Church is not what you get. Let's think. Did you know that Pope John Paul on the feast of St Lucy knotted, by moonlight, the rope that was to hang Roberto Calvi beneath Blackfriars Bridge? The Blackfriars were in it up to here with the Mafia and the Banco Ambrosiano and Russian gold. It all fits. It's only a novel, for heaven's sake. Didn't Mozart put a lot of Masonic fal-de-lal in The Magic Flute? And in Dracula, Van Helsing suddenly produces the Host - "I brought it from Amsterdam. I have an Indulgence" - and scatters the sacred elements around Lucy Westenra's tomb. This is unpleasant to a Catholic sensibility, and necessitates the hard work of unravelling the misunderstanding of what an "Indulgence" is. The immunity of fiction to factual correction is undermined by two things about Brown's book. One is that readers believe some of the novelistic assertions of the narrative's truth. The other is the surprising ease of selling as the basis for a story the judgment that the Catholic Church is a monster of deception. Will it come within the terms of David Blunkett's law against incitement to religious hatred? The most obvious fantasy in the novel is making Opus Dei a kind of training school for assassins. In truth, the Pope declared the founder of Opus Dei a saint, at a crowded ceremony in St Peter's Square in 2002, the year before The Da Vinci Code came out. If the Pope is Antichrist, of course, that is the sort of thing you might expect. But, in reality, the men and women in Opus Dei are friendly and do good works. I was a member of the English branch in the 1980s and you couldn't find nicer people - seldom a cross word, let alone firearms. They wouldn't be unkind to albinos. One small detail undermines any remaining confidence in Dan Brown's scholarship. I was reminded of it by Craig Brown's exposure of Gore Vidal. "Disillusion first set in," Craig wrote, "when I heard him on the BBC speaking with apparent authority about the British secret services. It was only when he began talking about 'M-Fifteen' and 'M-Sixteen' that I realised th

Seth on Jesus Scientific theories are "proven", at least partially, based on their predictive value. If a theory has high predictive value then it is more likely to be correct. In this spirit, I am going to place a "theory" in front of this group. Though this "theory" was proposed by "an energy essence personallity" named Seth who was "channeled" by a woman named Jane Roberts, I am only offering it as a theory to be tested by its predictive value. According to Seth's theory, Jesus did not get a stand in for the crucifixion but rather tried to dissuade a "volunteer". Here are Seth's words on this subject: Here is a portion of what Seth had to say about Jesus: -Now: For your edification: Christ, the historical Christ, was not crucified. - You will have to give me time here. (Pause.) He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was a necessity. Christ did not take part in it (Pause.) There was a conspiracy in which Judas: played a role an attempt to make a martyr out of Christ. The man chosen was drugged-hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross (see Luke:23) and he was told that he was the Christ. He believed that he was. He was one of deluded, but he also himself believed that he, not the historical Christ, was to fulfill the prophecies. Mary came because she was, full of sorrow for the man who believed he was her son. Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be "blamed." (Pause at 10.00.) This is difficult to explain even for me to unravel. The tomb was empty because the same group carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after (see Matthew 28). (Long, pause.) Christ was a great psychic. He caused the wounds to appear then upon His own body, and appeared both physically and in out-of-body states to His followers. He tried however, to explain what had happened and His position but those who were not in on the conspiracy would

A champion of free speech he is not.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 01:37 AM
============================================== Perhaps not in this case. I ding him for expediency -- the obviously winable case for both slander and libel would take years to get through the courts. Rescind M/F and bring back the fairness doctrine!!! p :)

Where all religions meet -- there is One God. relgions =/ God God=Jesus Where all relgions meet enter the unification church

Your Christ figure represents, symbolically, your idea of God and his relationships. There were three separate individuals whose history blended, and they became known collectively as Christ - hence many discrepancies in your records. These were all males because at that time of your development, you would not have accepted a female counterpart. These individuals were part of one entity. You could not but imagine God as a father. It would never have occurred to you to imagine a god in any other than human terms. Earth components. These three figures worked out a drama, highly symbolic, propelled by concentrated energy of great force. (Long pause at 9:52.) The EVENTS as they are recorded, however, did not occur in history. The crucifixion of Christ was a psychic, but not a physical event. Ideas of almost unimaginable magnitude were played out. (Pause at 9:55.) Judas, for example, was not a man in your terms. He was - like all the other Disciples - a blessed, created "fragment personality," formed by the Christ personality. He REPRESENTED the self-betrayer. He dramatized a portion of each individual's personality that focuses upon physical reality in a grasping manner, and denies the inner self out of greed.

http://www.post1.com/home/kktanhp/reincarnation_htm.htm Now, I'm a little fuzzy on the following material, but the general concepts should be adequate. Among a number of frightening tenets of hard core new agers is the notion of the universal "Christ Consciousness" which supposedly incarnates on the earth periodically to enlighten mankind with a new flavor from the Seven Rays of universal wisdom. The vehicles for this message are the avatars, like Buddha, Jesus and Krishna, each one bringing the earth family up to speed to the current level of universal revelation and psychic mastery. The previous stage of consciousness was the fish or Pisces, characterized by certain necessary qualities. The next stage we are about to embark on will be Aquarius, the Water-Bearer, bringing it's own consciousness-perfecting qualities as well. According to Benjamin Creme, the Masters live in a dimension that hovers over the Gopi Desert, and are led by Sanat Kumara, which Theosophist Dane Rudyar referred to as "King Satan." (Blavatsky explained that Satan is just as necessary as Lucifer in a dualistic universe and thus we needn't be ashamed of the image.) The world has been continually infiltrated by Theosophists, with what they believe to be consciousness-altering "light" in order to prepare us for the unity necessary to receive Sanat Kumara as our world leader and true spiritual identity. The next expected avatar who will bridge the gap between western rationalism and eastern mysticism will supposedly be Maitreya, who is one of the higher Kumaras, who will usher in the wide reception of Sanat Kumara. (Did somebody say, Delusion?) So, in summary to this section, we see the motive of New Age Disciples to leaven (change) the world in preparation for the coming of their Christ, Maitreya, in preparation for the final stage of the earth's evolution, to become one divine being. Our beliefs, social structure, politics, religion and self-concept and mastery of magic are all very important steps to the fulfillment of the "Aquarian Conspiracy" (Marilyn Ferguson's words, not mine) Now here is a smattering of disciplines and beliefs that

But the bait can be transformed into secularized gimmicks that pull anti-religious people and organizations into their game plan, as well. Often the bigger pictures are identical but focus out into the different sub-plots, whether religious, atheistic, sensual, philosophical, training, team-building or whatever. Habitat for Humanity, for example, comes in the guise of Evangelical Christianity, helping poor people. How nice! How can anyone badmouth charity? But when the facilitators come in and train the workers at the initial session, it is made very clear, leave your doctrines, Bibles, and denominations at home. This is the place for unity and tolerance, not strife. As soon as someone stands for truth to the point of dissension, he will be asked to leave. The point of the activity is not housing the poor, but team-building interdenominationally, or ecumenical unity, a hallmark of Jimmy Carter's career and new age psycho-salvation faith. Remember, he was a convert of his sister, the inner healer, Ruth Carter Stapleton, who could as easily reach Buddhists, Hindis and Muslims with her avatar-based visualization into a watered-down humanistic kingdom. Jimmy is a disciple of the Plan, whether he is a hard-core Baileyite or not. And he is now successfully ram-rodding fundamentalists into a radical "spiritual" movement that they would never have considered joining if it were so identified. And he is leading them into it voluntarily, another unique hallmark of the Plan.

Jimmy Carter explains how the Christian right isn't Christian at all.
By Ayelish McGarvey
Web Exclusive: 04.05.04 Former President Jimmy Carter, America's first evangelical Christian president, still teaches Sunday school at his Baptist church in Plains, Georgia, and he and his wife, Rosalynn, continue their human-rights work in developing nations through the Carter Center at Emory University. In recent months, the Carters toured Togo, Ghana, and Mali to raise awareness of the public-health needs of those nations. In February, Carter spoke about the role of evangelical Christianity in democratic politics with Prospect writing fellow Ayelish McGarvey. Republicans have been extremely successful at connecting religion and values to issues like the fight against terrorism, abortion, and gay rights. Democrats have been far less adept at infusing our issues -- compassion, help for the poor, social justice -- with any sense of religious commitment or moral imperative. Why do you think that is? When I was younger, almost all Baptists were strongly committed on a theological basis to the separation of church and state. It was only 25 years ago when there began to be a melding of the Republican Party with fundamentalist Christianity, particularly with the Southern Baptist Convention. This is a fairly new development, and I think it was brought about by the abandonment of some of the basic principles of Christianity. First of all, we worship the prince of peace, not war. And those of us who have advocated for the resolution of international conflict in a peaceful fashion are looked upon as being unpatriotic, branded that way by right-wing religious groups, the Bush administration, and other Republicans. Secondly, Christ was committed to compassion for the most destitute, poor, needy, and forgotten people in our society. Today there is a stark difference [between conservative ideology and Christian teaching] because most of the people most strongly committed to the Republican philosophy have adopted the proposition that help for the rich is the best way to help even poor people (by letting some of the financial benefits drip down to those most deeply in need). I

Hi everyone!
Hi pete ... thanks for the invite! Hi phungus ... be seein ya soon!

Today there is a stark difference [between conservative ideology and Christian teaching] because most of the people most strongly committed to the Republican philosophy have adopted the proposition that help for the rich is the best way to help even poor people (by letting some of the financial benefits drip down to those most deeply in need). I would say there has been a schism drawn -- on theology and practical politics and economics between the two groups. What has attracted conservative Christians to a party that protects corporate interests and promotes an aggressive foreign-policy agenda? How do those square? There is an element of fundamentalism involved, which involves the belief on the part of a human being that [his or her] own concept of God is the proper one. And since [he or she has] the proper concept of God, [he or she is] particularly blessed and singled out for special consideration above and beyond those who disagree with [him or her]. Secondly, anyone who does disagree with [him or her], since [he or she is] harnessed to God in a unique way, then, by definition, must be wrong. And the second step is if you are in disagreement with [his or her] concept of the way to worship, even among the Christian community, is that you are inferior to [him or her]. And then the ultimate progression of that is that you’re not only different and wrong and inferior but in some ways you are subhuman. So there’s a loss of concern even for the death of those who disagree. And this takes fundamentalism to the extreme. This is an element of the fundamentalist cause in this country. If you are a wealthy white man, then you are naturally inclined to think that the poor are inferior and don’t deserve your first consideration. If you are a wealthy white man, then you also take on the proposition that women are inherently inferior. This builds up a sense of prejudice and alienation that permeates the Christian right during these days. What issues do you see galvanizing moderate evangelicals as they go to the polls in November? I’ve been involved in national politics now for more than 25 years. But this year we will see the Democratic Party more united than ever before in m

You really have to wonder about the world when kindness is suspect at every turn. And labels with scads of varied meanings mean more than one's direct personal experience.

Eat Pork!

I’ve been involved in national politics now for more than 25 years. But this year we will see the Democratic Party more united than ever before in my memory, and even the earlier history that I studied before my life began. I think we’re completely united with a determination to replace the Bush administration and its fundamentalist, right-wing philosophy with the more moderate qualities that have always exemplified what our nation is: a nation committed to strength in the military. I served longer in the military than any other president since the Civil War except Dwight Eisenhower. I was a submarine officer. I used the enormous and unmatched strength of America to promote peace for other people and preserve peace for ourselves. Now it seems as though it is an attractive thing in Washington to resort to war in the very early stage of resolving an altercation; a completely unnecessary war that President Bush decided to launch against the Iraqis is an example of that. And I think that a reaction against that warlike attitude on the part of America to the exclusion of almost all other nations in the world -- and arousing fear in them -- is going to be a driving issue. I think that the abandonment of environmental issues even endorsed by President Nixon when I was governor (as well as virtually all of the Republicans and Democrats) has been notable under the Bush administration. One of the things I learned as a young Baptist boy was to be a steward of the world that God blessed us to enjoy. And I think the abandonment of basic environmental standards by the Bush administration rallies us. And I think the third thing is the obvious orientation of the Bush administration toward Halliburton, Enron, and other major corporations. You see this in the enormous tax reductions that have been granted to people that make more than $200,000 a year. That is another issue on which the Democrats will rally a common goal. Do you think that Democrats will be able to attract Bible-believing Christians in a year that gay marriage will be used as a smokescreen to distract attention from those issues? I think so. There isn’t a major candidate who has endorsed gay marriage; they are in fa

hey phungus ... I thought you were emersed in yoga so you could blow yourself? what ever happened to your commitment?

i think so. There isn’t a major candidate who has endorsed gay marriage; they are in favor of equal protection through a civil-union arrangement. I personally, in my Sunday-school lessons, don’t favor the religious endorsement of a gay marriage. But I do favor equal treatment under the law for people who differ from me in sexual orientation. What about abortion? How would you speak to moderate evangelicals who withhold support for Democratic candidates on that single issue? This was an issue that I had to face when I was campaigning 25 years ago. I have always been against abortion; it’s not possible for me in my own concept of Christ to believe that Jesus would favor abortion. But at the same time, I have supported the Supreme Court ruling of our country as the law of the land. And the present arrangement, whereby a woman is authorized to have an abortion in the first trimester of the pregnancy, or when the pregnancy is caused by rape or incest -- these are the things that moderates who have beliefs like mine can accept as the present circumstances in our country. The liberality of abortion is anointed by the laws of our country, including the ultimate ruling of the Supreme Court. How do you think the fundamentalist Christian right has misrepresented Christianity, as well as the democratic process? Well, what do Christians stand for, based exclusively on the words and actions of Jesus Christ? We worship him as a prince of peace. And I think almost all Christians would conclude that whenever there is an inevitable altercation -- say, between a husband and a wife, or a father and a child, or within a given community, or between two nations (including our own) -- we should make every effort to resolve those differences which arise in life through peaceful means. Therein, we should not resort to war as a way to exalt the president as the commander in chief. A commitment to peace is certainly a Christian principle that even ultraconservatives would endorse, at least by worshipping the prince of peace. And Christ reached out almost exclusively to the poor, suffering, abandoned, deprived -- the scorned, the condemned people -- including Samaritans and those who were dis

Btw ... MoveOn.org is a 501 ... the 527 is MoveOn Voter Fund ... MoveOn.org (which does the ads) would be uneffected by the law ...

And Christ reached out almost exclusively to the poor, suffering, abandoned, deprived -- the scorned, the condemned people -- including Samaritans and those who were diseased. The alleviation of suffering was a philosophy that was enhanced and emphasized by the life of Christ. Today the ultra-right wing, in both religion and politics, has abandoned that principle of Jesus Christ’s ministry. Those are the two principal things in the practical sense that starkly separate the ultra-right Christian community from the rest of the Christian world: Do we endorse and support peace and support the alleviation of suffering among the poor and the outcast? You spent so much of your career working toward a reasonable, peaceful solution to violence and strife in Israel and Palestine. Increasing attention has been paid to traditionalist evangelicals’ strong support for Israel, based on the New Testament prophecy that the reconstruction of the ancient kingdom of David will usher in the “end times” and the Second Coming of Christ. As a believer and a peacemaker, how do you respond to this? That’s a completely foolish and erroneous interpretation of the Scriptures. And it has resulted in these last few years with a terrible, very costly, and bloody deterioration in the relationship between Israel and its neighbors. Every president except for George W. Bush has taken a relatively balanced position between the Israelis and their enemies, always strongly supporting Israel but recognizing that you have to negotiate and work between Israel and her neighbors in order to bring about a peaceful resolution. It’s nearly the 25th anniversary of my consummation of a treaty between Israel and Egypt -- not a word of which has ever been violated. But this administration, maybe strongly influenced by ill-advised theologians of the extreme religious right, has pretty well abandoned any real effort that could lead to a resolution of the problems between Israel and the Palestinians. And no one can challenge me on my commitment to Israel and its right to live in peace with all its neighbors. But at the same time, there has to be a negotiated settlement; you can’t just ordain the destruction of the Palestinian

I assume I'm not the only one who is just paging past these huge posts ...

That’s a completely foolish and erroneous interpretation of the Scriptures. And it has resulted in these last few years with a terrible, very costly, and bloody deterioration in the relationship between Israel and its neighbors. Every president except for George W. Bush has taken a relatively balanced position between the Israelis and their enemies, always strongly supporting Israel but recognizing that you have to negotiate and work between Israel and her neighbors in order to bring about a peaceful resolution. It’s nearly the 25th anniversary of my consummation of a treaty between Israel and Egypt -- not a word of which has ever been violated. But this administration, maybe strongly influenced by ill-advised theologians of the extreme religious right, has pretty well abandoned any real effort that could lead to a resolution of the problems between Israel and the Palestinians. And no one can challenge me on my commitment to Israel and its right to live in peace with all its neighbors. But at the same time, there has to be a negotiated settlement; you can’t just ordain the destruction of the Palestinian people, and their community and their political entity, in favor of the Israelis. And that’s what some of the extreme fundamentalist Christians have done, both to the detriment of the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Heya people yow nik

WHO FUCKING CARES WHO BELIEVES WHAT !FUCK! I COULD NOT CARE LESS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DECIDE TO BELIEVE ABOUT ANYTHING

You know ... if you really want anyone to read a long ass post ... the least you could do is supply a nic ... I mean ... how hard could it be?

I COULD NOT CARE LESS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DECIDE TO BELIEVE ABOUT ANYTHING
Posted by: at August 24, 2004 02:18 AM quite a wordsmith you are ... I agree! ... especially as applies to you ...

CAN ANYTHING BE SAID HERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PICKED APART AND JUDGED EVERY WHICH WAY TO SUNDAY - LEARNING AND PERSONAL EDIFICATION ARE NICE AS WELL.

Hi Red! How's your morning going?

Morning is lovely, nik And how's your night?

LEARNING AND PERSONAL EDIFICATION ARE NICE AS WELL.
Posted by: at August 24, 2004 02:21 AM you point being ... you've got a broken caps lock key?

CAN ANYTHING BE SAID HERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PICKED APART AND JUDGED EVERY WHICH WAY TO SUNDAY - LEARNING AND PERSONAL EDIFICATION ARE NICE AS WELL. Posted by: at August 24, 2004 02:21 AM _______
Blasphemer
would do well not to mention Sunday in my presence

And how's your night?
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:22 AM just got back from doin laundry ... its only 40 miles away to the nearest laundromat ...

sorry 65 kilometers

Well gee I missed Phungus...I had a few things for him...Ya know to see how he could explain W's fake medals and such...

Hmm, do you live, like, in the middle of nowhere, nik? 40 miles, that's funny, I live 40 miles from dimona ;)

//
MoveOn.org PAC was the one I had in mind. If by "Clinton lackey," you mean the 68% of U.S. Citizens who gave him a favorable job rating at the end of his term, and are giving whatever we can afford to MoveOn to do whatever is neccesary to end the reign of terror of the Warmonger-In-Chief, then, guilty as charged! But, seriously, do you have some information about large donations to MoveOn? I haven't researched their funding. Have you? p :) Posted by: petemoon at August 24, 2004 01:41 AM
// No. By Clinton lackeys I meant the Clinton people who are now infused in such groups behind and supporting Kerry as Harold Ickes (Media Fund) and Steve Rosenthal (ACT). But you know all that. Quit playing. Of course I have researched MoveOn and their funding. You haven't??? If you were under the impression they were "just" a "grassroots" org that was composed of concerned private citizens like you, you were quite deluded. What did you donate to MoveOn? Probably well under $1,000? The least "top" named contributors list stops at $1,000. Who is at the top, for 2004 thus far (never mind 2003)? 1) George Soros, 2.6 million (worth 7 bil)
2) Peter B Lewis, 2.6 million (worth 1.6 bil)
3) Stephen Bing, .971 million (worth .5 bil) Those are the top 3. #4 is a big drop, at just .309 million, "retired", a catch all. This pattern is repeated over the other big lib 527 groups. ACT, Media Fund, Join Victory Campaign 2004, Service Emplyees Int'l Union. The first 3 are front groups for billionaires with spare cash. But isn't the fourth interesting? A union jamming millions of union dues into the political process. With all the billionaires, millionaires, and special interests groups, the libs aren't looking like they present themselves, hmm? 87% of 527 money is being spent by liberal groups, as ABC News has reported. The major media was happy to ignore this fact. But now Kerry's boohoo bleating has started the fall of the house of cards. Woops. Wake up, Neo.

Blasphemer
Posted by: Lucifer at August 24, 2004 02:23 AM hey Lucifer ... I rebuke you! ... return to Fox News! the power of Christ compels you!
the power of Christ compels you!
the power of Christ compels you!

Oh there he is...Hey Phungus...guess what? "Bush's Bogus Medals" "In this picture, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA - the wing) and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon (SAEMR)." http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04346.html

in the middle of nowhere, nik?
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:25 AM pretty much ... I can walk out my front door and fire a gun in any direction and not hit anything ... but grass ... maybe a chicken

the power of Christ compels you! To your yahooo-hoo

FOX news is but one of my stomping grounds I will soon devour the world in fell swoop;
with help my devout followers you laugh now, but who can later when you will
be servants of the real king of this world

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04346.html
Posted by: Nobody at August 24, 2004 02:28 AM Hey Bush with one eye-brow! ... kinda neanderthal eh?

No I mean really Phungus have I mentioned W's fake medals?...Seems likes he's done it on more than one occasion... "George W. Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he did not earn" "We can clearly see that in this picture, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon, however, on line 24 of his ARG22 National Guard discharge form, George W. Bush has NO awards listed:" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x654437

pretty much ... I can walk out my front door and fire a gun in any direction and not hit anything ... but grass ... maybe a chicken
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 02:28 AM Poor chickens... Where do you live actually? Not that it would tell me much, I really suck at US geography...

fools!
i demand full attention
how can i decieve you if you do not listen?

But now Kerry's boohoo bleating has started the fall of the house of cards. Woops.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 02:25 AM Not that you can distinguish this ... but Kerry was responding to lies ... MoveOn gets slammed for telling the truth ... but again ... the ads are from MoveOn.org (a 501) the campaign contributions from MoveOn Voter Fund (the 527) just get contributed to Kerry ... fyi ... bitch

But then again 30 months of his entire "service" was fake as fake can be... "DESERTER" "THE STORY OF GEORGE W. BUSH AFTER HE QUIT THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD" "An examination of the Bush military files within the context of US Statutory Law, Department of Defense regulations, and Air Force policies and procedures of that era lead to a single conclusion: George W. Bush was considered a deserter by the United States Air Force." http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm

The left just got louder... and more full of religious crap.

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Rescind M/F and bring back the fairness doctrine!!! p :) Posted by: petemoon at August 24, 2004 01:48 AM
// You're posting on a politically slanted blog about wanting to bring back the "fairness doctrine"??? In my brief absence did you become the ObHighBlogWhore? What we have now on radio is fair. People can say what they want. And it's up to the recipient to process it and come to their own believes. The free market dictates hat is heard on air. If people like what they hear, radio expands and grows via a profit profile. Of course, you also have the AAR profile, a lossleader short timer not in the game for profit but for propoganda. If you advocate a return to the the "fairness" doctrine, you are advocating censorship and the silencing of your own voice. Think harder.

religion is but one way to suck you in

Yo Lucifer you still owe me $20 on that bet you lost you cheap ass.

//
hey phungus ... I thought you were emersed in yoga so you could blow yourself? what ever happened to your commitment? Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 02:14 AM
// Must be swimming with what you call "wit" and "humor". Never exsisted in the first place.

hee hee
i forgot about that who knew your mama was so good?

I really suck at US geography...
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:31 AM North Dakota ... its kind like Israel ... only its totally flat ... and there's no people ... and its cold in the winter (-35C) ...

Go suck somebody else. I'm on record as being against it.

//
I assume I'm not the only one who is just paging past these huge posts ... Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 02:17 AM
// Sinec Sam Seder Sensor curtailed post length, they are not that long, get over it. Yes that is alliteration.

North Dakota ... its kind like Israel ... only its totally flat ... and there's no people ... and its cold in the winter (-35C) ... Posted by Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 02:37 AM That sounds exactly like Israel! Only completely different. You can't scare me with cold winters though, I'm from Moscow, I even have that big fur hat somewhere in the back of some closet

Never exsisted in the first place.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 02:36 AM I don't know if I should chuckle and point at your tiny pecker or be sad ... perhaps I'll just stick with ... bitch!

candy=religion

alice=bitch

[looks at his watch]

hey are not that long, get over it.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 02:38 AM I simply page over it ... perhaps you have time to read all that krap ... I've got more important matters to attend ... bitch

Rubin... them Russian fur hats? Women look absolutely cuddly in those! Love em!

alice=bitch=oh yeah baby!

God damned remedial trolls...15 minutes behind the blog.

You can't scare me with cold winters though, I'm from Moscow, I even have that big fur hat somewhere in the back of some closet
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:39 AM I really like winters here ... I much prefer them to the summers ... I can't wait for the cold ... In the summer we get bugs ... lots and lots of bugs ... I raise organic crops and animals ... so my bugs are self-actualized (they do yoga) ...

Most Iraqis would define liberation as the end of the American military occupation and their ability to choose a government of their liking. It seems highly likely that the Iraqi elections scheduled for January 2005 will be postponed for a good long time, allowing caretaker Prime Minister Iyad Allawi to consolidate his power (though whether the ongoing resistance to the occupation will allow him to do so is in doubt). Liberation as self-determination is not in evidence in either Afghanistan or Iraq. That is why the Iraqi soccer team spoke out against Bush. -- Juan Cole http://www.juancole.com/

I like yoga

Yeah, fishy ;) It's rather useless over here though... No, it's completely useless My mum also has a fur coat... Very non politically correct the whole thing...

I like WBush when he prays he prays to ME

[looks at his watch again]

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Not that you can distinguish this ... but Kerry was responding to lies ... MoveOn gets slammed for telling the truth ... but again ... the ads are from MoveOn.org (a 501) the campaign contributions from MoveOn Voter Fund (the 527) just get contributed to Kerry ... fyi ... bitch Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 02:32 AM
// Oh I know how your shell game works, son. After all, I know what the definition of "is" is. The American people know the difference. The jig is up.

I like yoga too

I'm generally a winter person, nik, so you can see how living here kinda... doesn't make much sense. I haven't seen snow in years! I should go up to Jerusalem or mount Hermon this winter and play in the snow... (did that sound sexual at all?)

I like phungus he is my partner remeber the summer of '69, Phungie?

~~~ Very non politically correct the whole thing ~~~ Pollitical correctness is a disease of only a tiny portion of the population. I don't like fur coats because they make the wearer look like a damned Neanderthal. The same cannot be said for those Russian fur hats. Very stylish. Cute as hell.

http://www.juancole.com/
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 24, 2004 02:43 AM I don't know what the people are thinkin ... we should just high-tail outta there ... I be we could get every person and stick of furniture home in less than a month ... if we put our minds to it ... then we would really see cheering in the streets ...
Very non politically correct the whole thing...
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:44 AM If its from farm minks ... its totally fine ... of course ... traps are mean ... I wouldn't use them on a Republican ... well maybe phungus ... the rat

I really enjoy unamerican extremist greedy rethuglicans pissing on me all the time. I'm such a gullible sheep that I speak & vote against my best interests.

I like yoga too Posted by: Alice at August 24, 2004 02:46 AM i know dear you are mine
all
mine

(did that sound sexual at all?)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:46 AM Of course! ... perhaps you could elaborate?

//
But then again 30 months of his entire "service" was fake as fake can be... "DESERTER" "THE STORY OF GEORGE W. BUSH AFTER HE QUIT THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD" "An examination of the Bush military files within the context of US Statutory Law, Department of Defense regulations, and Air Force policies and procedures of that era lead to a single conclusion: George W. Bush was considered a deserter by the United States Air Force." http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm
Posted by: Nobody [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2004 02:33 AM
// Hi. This is the Kerry Campaign. We are threatening to sue you for speaking out of turn and voicing your opinion. Cordially,
Kerry Campaign Pussies

keep up the good work
phungie

Welp it's official Phungus skipped right past these articles... "Bush's Bogus Medals" "In this picture, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA - the wing) and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon (SAEMR)." http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04346.html "George W. Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he did not earn" "We can clearly see that in this picture, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon, however, on line 24 of his ARG22 National Guard discharge form, George W. Bush has NO awards listed:" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x654437

The American people know the difference. The jig is up.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 02:46 AM What are you talkin about? The american people watch "The Apprentice" ... hello? ...

GW
is my main
main

Of course! ... perhaps you could elaborate?
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 02:48 AM
Do I really need to? I mean, playing in the snow... I think it's obvious I'm talking about kinky kinky sex.

No It's not talking out of turn phungus...it's breaking the law...of course tha's nothing new for your side is it?

Kerry Campaign Pussies
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 02:48 AM Speaking of which ... I would assert that:
"Secrets are for Pussies" That makes Dick a pretty little kitten huh?
Bush is the "Hang in there" baby
Ashcroft is stuck to a windsheild

Phungus, do not listen to Nobody Laws are flismy things, made to be broken Made to be manipulated and twisted Laws are relative, like anything else

"How Do They Get Away With It?" "It is not an enjoyable experience watching the Republican Party descend into the depths of propaganda and falsehood. Today's disaffected Republicans once believed the GOP to be the party of principle. Any remaining claim to principle ended with Bush's invasion of Iraq" http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=3431

Nik... I've challenged all the liberals who say we must stay to come up with the best means of pulling out of Iraq if some other international situation made it absolutely necessary. Like if we need (I mean like REALLY need) our forces elsewhere. My guess is once we come up with those best means of leaving... they'll be obviously better for all involved than our staying. That's my present way of placing the argument. A thought experiment, of sorts. Once people are out of the box... they find it difficult to climb back in.

//
Never exsisted in the first place.
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 02:36 AM I don't know if I should chuckle and point at your tiny pecker or be sad ... perhaps I'll just stick with ... bitch! Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 02:39 AM
// It's refreshing to know that when I suffer a dearth of hearing about my ass or my pecker, I can turn to this ass and pecker obsessed blog and bask in the down below wit of this country's most formidable mentally challenged underpants humorists whose knowledge of current events equals what they find in their diaper every day. PS, next time I can take off even longer if that is what it takes for you to move past 7th grade wordsmith skillz. Or is that 4th grade mental skillz for you? Shrug. And with that, good day, Audi5. ..I shall return (Alice)..

I think it's obvious I'm talking about kinky kinky sex.
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:51 AM Yeow! ... wearing nothing but a fur hat ... a Czech security guard ... looking threatening with that riding crop ...

alice=bitch
Posted by: at August 24, 2004 02:40 AM that's so 1st grade...and yet enough to prove how ignorance is bliss for some... yes that does hurt my feelings...for like a minute...and then it's over and done... and so am i... 8/23/04
11:55pm

"Why Bush is on the carpet with Hoover" "We are likely to hear a lot about former United States president Herbert Hoover in the coming months as the US election approaches in November." "But it is a name that president George Bush would rather forget." http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,1288551,00.html

... the best means of pulling out of Iraq
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 24, 2004 02:55 AM The best way to pull out is ... immediately ... followed by ... "we are really really sorry dudes!"

Rubin... ~~~ I think it's obvious I'm talking about kinky kinky sex ~~~ Okay.. I get it... the "snow" is analogous to the white background of a drawing... no... a cartoon. Yes, I see it now. heh heh heh

And with that, good day, Audi5.
..I shall return (Alice)..
Posted by: phungus at August 24, 2004 02:56 AM Seeya later ... bitch!

Aww gee phungus is leaving again...and he didn't get to see the good stuff yet... "Swift Boat To Dirty Politics" "(CBS) Well, here we go again." "Just when we needed a campaign about serious issues -- and for a minute there, it looked as if we might get one -- along comes the Swift Boat crowd and their charges that John Kerry didn't deserve the medals he won for valor under fire in Vietnam." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/16/opinion/schieffer/main636333.shtml

"Okay.. I get it... the "snow" is analogous to the white background of a drawing... no... a cartoon. Yes, I see it now." Yes, that is exactly what I meant. hehe, sex in the snow in jerusalem... on Shabat! You know, there are a few orthodox neighbourhoods where, if you drive on a shabat, they throw shit at you... What would they do if you had sex in the snow on shabat?

I mean come on phungus can't your side face any issues at all? "Bush Misleads on Connection to Smear Campaign" "President Bush has adamantly denied any connection to discredited and unsubstantial attack ads, run by the so-called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT), a group that aims to smear John Kerry's record of honorable military service. On Friday, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said that the White House and the Bush/Cheney campaign "weren't involved in any way in these [SBVT] ads."" http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df08232004.html

Thing about the Pogues on Sundance... I kissed my girl
By the factory wall
Dirty old town....

Donny : How come you don't roll on Saturday Walter?
Walter Sobchak : I'm Shomer Shabbos.

Donny : What's that Walter?

Walter Sobchak : Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't drive a car, I don't fuckin' ride in a car, I don't handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit [shouts] Don't fucking roll! Shomer shabbos!

What would they do if you had sex in the snow on shabat?
Posted by RedRubin at August 24, 2004 03:01 AM Same as they always do ... join in!

Same as they always do ... join in! Posted by Nik E Poo at August 24, 2004 03:07 AM Ov vey...

Shomer shabbos!

Shomer shabbos!
Posted by Fishgrease at August 24, 2004 03:09 AM Oy! that reminds me I need to call my shrink... it's fucking impossible to get her on the phone... terrible

Should we talk about the issues? ... naw! ... well maybe just one ... http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=Business&cat=Labor_and_Workplace Pretty sweet how that works huh?

Nik... you think my thought experiment is a good idea? Seems okay to me but must need something. I don't see anyone jumping up and down trying to implement it. But I think Kerry will have to. The American people are just not going to permit our continued occupation of Iraq. So somebody better start thinking about the best way of getting out.

Oh.. that was from The Big Lebowski, by the way. I'm sure everybody knew that anyways.

So somebody better start thinking about the best way of getting out.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 24, 2004 03:14 AM I'm still in favor of a heartfelt apology and a "tail-between-the-legs" adios

I should go up to Jerusalem or mount Hermon this winter and play in the snow... (did that sound sexual at all?)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 24, 2004 02:46 AM
=============================================== Sorry for being a half hour behind (story of my life). :) Shall I Mount Herman, or will you do the honors? p :)

lol pete worth the half hour wait... ;)

I see that phungus nick impersonator using typeface(punk stole it first) that posted all those idiot posts was back tonight. I'm the asshole of assholes no matter which phungus you see. I love unamerican extremist greedy coward rethuglicans pissing on me all the time. I'm so gullible that I'm against my own best interests.

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spit it all out don't hide your feelings anymore. its the season of the witch.blueberry fields for ever

spit it all out don't hide your feelings anymore. its the season of the witch.blueberry fields for ever

saw that 2 days ago A. So much stuff.

NICE WORK ! :)

However i noticed the pages of the December 15, 2005 missing 3 images,
2 of which I saved.

hour one <-Page Link

^grab this from me ^ and put it on your server in the proper folder
making sure to rename it by placing spaces in the file name:
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hour three <-Page Link

^grab this from me ^ and put it on your server in the proper folder
making sure to rename it by placing spaces in the file name:

.tv/Archives/majorityreport/weblog/jg mm studi 001.jpg

Photobucket apparently will rename a file if
it is uploaded with spaces in the name.

got it!

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