Survival Sam

"cloverdale" is that asshole who thinks he's Robert Plant

...he isn't

I just realized how much botanical humor potential is in that statement....

too bad I'm not a botanist...

One more day of work..I am looking forward to Frontline tomorrow...I hope I learn something...

So if what Soros said was true..about that it doesn't matter what the form of government is called if they don't care for their population..(and I see how they are twisting Obama's teases of a better life for American people as a boost in spending and not spending towards war as increasing govt - WHICH IS BULLSHIT should he do something for WE the PEOPLE - Tweety's show did anyway...)...But I do get the feeling that Chavez and Morales et. al. DO more GIVE more to their citizens than here..but I don't know for sure, since I don't live there...

Goodnight, All...
xoxo

Do tell..

There are two, sort of....

[spoilers removed]

I remember that there were a couple more easter eggs, but that's all i can think of right now. Now, go watch it again. ;-)

10. I can see Russia, but I can't see five feet behind me.

(Letterman tonight)

nite alice.

When I watched the special features I found they had more answers than I had questions about Cloverfield.

It was Friends meets beast from 1000 fathoms. in a good way.

but I still think of Ross and Rachel facing the monster.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

..but the splash you mentioned is just the wake of the ferry....it's pretty distinct...

I have to look up the easter eggs tomorrow...thx!

night everyone!

I'll have to get Cloverdale again and look for the easter eggs
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

I'm turning in too, night all.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

I have no idea if that was planned or pareidolia, but it made for a good argument with my best friend for a while (he saw the splash as significant, i'm unconvinced). We'll find out if they do the sequel.

Night, everyone!

...I can't believe I am laughing fully. wow.
Cheers.

BTW >>> KEVIN <<

...3 times so far...eye-roll
This again and again is what I wrote...
Did that confuse the heck out of me ... grrr..errr WHY??? this what I wrote:

...I can't believe I am laughing fully. wow.
Cheers.

BTW >>> KEVIN <<

... I must contemplate, hopefully figure out what "I" most likely did wrong...and repost and Kevin, you might get my full greeting then besides just >>> KEVIN <<<
:D

OLD MESSAGE S T I L L
I AM TRYING TO POST

...I can't believe I am laughing fully. wow.
Cheers.

BTW >>> KEVIN <<< What Are You Doing? Probably sleeping... :D Do you like animals? :D
Well back to work. ;);(
Sea-U ; *poof*

Now it posts AND I did NOTHING DIFFERENT!
GRRR

I'm sure you have ideas that could help.

but no one knows how to fix it!

All these people yapping on my TV! Every one of them with a differest view of what should be done. AHHHHH! Stop them!

Wachovia execs to receive over $98 million?
Chris in Paris · 11/25/2008 04:14:00 AM ET · Link
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Is it really asking too much for Congress to lower the boom here? Andrew Cuomo is great but surely he's not the only person who knows how to go after such excesses. Again, let's look at who lost billions and who was rewarded (and continue to be rewarded) very handsomely. The GOP needs to quit blaming the poor for this historic failure because it's Wall Street who is killing capitalism through their greed. Of course, if they're never held accountable, why would they not behave this way? Even now, it's not as though Congress or Paulson are aggressively overseeing this process.
Wachovia Corp (NYSE:WB - News), which lost $33 billion in the last two quarters, said 10 top executives may be entitled to $98.1 million in severance pay after the bank is acquired by Wells Fargo & Co (NYSE:WFC - News).

In a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filing, Wachovia said the executives would receive severance under their employment agreements if the merger closes by December 31, as expected. Wachovia said shareholders will vote on the merger on Dec 23.

The 10 executives do not include Robert Steel, who in July replaced the ousted Ken Thompson as Wachovia's chief executive, and does not have an employment agreement.

Wachovia also said a closing would entitle its 11 executive officers, who include Steel, as well as Chairman Lanty Smith to $2.5 million in equity-based awards under existing stock incentive plans. But the executives' stock options are worthless, the bank said.

U.S. regulators pushed Wachovia to find a merger partner after losses soared on a $118.7 billion portfolio of option adjustable-rate mortgages. The bank largely took these on when it bought California's Golden West Financial Corp in 2006.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/081124/business_us_wachovia_wellsfargo_severance...

Will buy $600 Billion of Risky Holdings

Per CNN and MSNBC

The only way to save the economy is to find value in the labor they employ.

I think there should be corporate tax breaks for those that employ more Americans. I think if you automate a factory, you should pay more taxes. I think if you send business out of America, you should pay much higher taxes. Then, if you import products, there should be tariffs unless they achieve parity in environmental and human rights laws.

Fed Commits Up to $800 Billion in New Programs to Unfreeze Credit Markets The Federal Reserve announced two new efforts to unfreeze credit for homebuyers, consumers and small businesses, committing up to $800 billion.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=alCncP3b8qYY&refer=n...

Geithner Struggled to Rally Action After Spotting Dangers of Default Swaps Timothy Geithner was among the first policy makers to shine a light on the unregulated $47 trillion credit-default swap market back in 2005. The New York Federal Reserve president has struggled since then to get dealers to carry out reforms.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aRn.RysEpWd0&refer=n...

i wasn't always the sharpest one in math but aren't they spending that 700,000,000,000 a couple of times over?

I agree, but will it be done?

Dell, I heard, is now backing off their decision of opening more call centers in India. I sent an email so I know others have also.

I've noticed that the money from the Fed and the money from the Treasury (Paulson's booty) are two different pools.

The Fed seems not to need the congress but the Treasury does.

So we've paid out trillions from the Fed that is not even part of the TARP!

U.S. GDP Shrank 0.5% Last Quarter, Most Since 2001, Amid Consumer Retreat The U.S. economy shrank in the third quarter faster than previously estimated as consumer spending plunged by the most in almost three decades.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=adRLNv1tKq4M&refer=n...

So this is the proof that we are finally in a Recession! So they are saying on MSNBC

on MSNBC by that Dillon guy from CNBC that said the FED is a seperate entity from the Congress passed TARP bill and is giving money out hand over fist.

This Dillon guy is pissed about it and said that this admin is allowing this to happen with no tranparency of the independent FED.

Seems like Paulson's Treasury is a smoke screen and no one is watching the FED

When doing your Christmas cards this year, take one card and send it to this address. If we pass this on and everyone sends one card, think of how many cards these wonderful special people who have sacrificed so much would get.

When you are making out your Christmas card list this year, please include
the following:
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> A Recovering American Soldier
> c/o Walter Reed Army Medical Center
> 6900 Georgia Avenue! ,NW
> Washington,D.C. 20307-5001

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

You know that Obama has another news conference today.

Now MSNBC is saying that

Hank Paulson will have a newser....and....

John McCain is also having a Newser today!!

What is this? More of the campaign?

McCain, go away!!!! You lost!!!!

History

Fareed Zakaria: "Some of us--especially those under 60--have always wondered what it would be like to live through the kind of epochal event one reads about in books. Well, this is it. We're now living history, suffering one of the greatest financial panics of all time. It compares with the big ones--1907, 1929--and we cannot yet know its full consequences for the financial system, the economy or society as a whole."

--Josh Marshall

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163449

how does an autoworker, who for the lack of a 25B loan, doesn't know if he/she is going to have a job two months from now, doesn't know if they are going to lose their house because they have no work, explain to their child that college is going to have to be put off and maybe you won't even get a chance to go while the same person reads in the paper that 10 people at wachovia, a bank that was driven into the ground by these same people are going to get to share 98,000,000 dollars because another bank came in and bought what was left of what they had destroyed?

at some point, don't contracts employment and otherwise get thrown out because of fraud?

Getting Pathetic
Bloomberg ...

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, less than a week after indicating he would let the Obama administration decide how to use the second half of the $700 billion financial fund, is considering asking for the money.
--Josh Marshall

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFcSMtrPJRw8

i knew 2 days of the market rising would be too much...

He thinks Bush is trying to stick it to Obama so that he will fail.

He said that after Obama is sworn in there will be more info coming out on this Bush admin. I told him I hope he is right! They should have impeached them! Bush and Cheney! They screwed this country royally!

Group blames unions for carmakers’ woes
By Ian Swanson
Posted: 11/23/08 10:07 AM [ET]
Unions are to blame for the Big Three automakers’ problems, according to a television ad meant to stoke public opposition to organized labor’s number one legislative priority.

“Steel, auto, airlines. What do these industries all have in common?” asks the ad sponsored by the business-backed Employee Freedom Action Committee, which was active in several hotly contested Senate races this year. “Hundreds of thousands of lost jobs and union bosses that helped put them out of business.”

The advertisement urges people to fight the Employee Free Choice Act, which unions hope will be taken up quickly by the Democratic Congress and President-elect Barack Obama. The bill would eliminate the requirement for workers to cast secret ballots in deciding whether to organize, making it easier to form unions.

Business groups are paying for the ad to run on CNN and the Fox cable news network Monday through Wednesday, according to the group’s spokesman, Tim Miller. He said the ad buy was “fairly substantial” but declined to specify a figure. A similar ad ran in Mississippi and New Hampshire in conjunction with Senate races in those states, where business groups worked to tie Democrats to the Employee Free Choice Act.

“If Americans like what the unions did to Detroit’s economy, they’ll love what the unions will do to the country,” said Richard Berman, the business group’s executive director.

“The unions have played a significant role in nearly bankrupting the Big Three automakers with untenable inefficiencies which have put tens of thousands out of work,” Bergman said. He said the union bill, known as “card-check legislation,” would do the same to millions of jobs across the country.

Alan Reuther, legislative director for the United Autoworkers, blasted the ad and Bergman’s comments. He said the auto industry’s problems rest on a series of bad trade and healthcare policies, and that the credit crunch is to blame for the current crisis.

Reuther also said major concessions offered by unions in their 2005 and 2007 contracts will result in the elimination of the cost-gap between union and non-union plants. “We feel that we’ve stepped up to the plate,” he said.

He also pointed to a 2007 report by two auto industry consulting firms that found nine of the 10 most-efficient auto plants in North America have workers organized by the United Autoworkers or the Canadian Autoworkers.

Congressional leaders have asked the cash-strapped auto companies to come up with a business plan over the next two weeks if they want $25 billion in aid. Executives from the three companies were in Washington this week pleading for help.

Besides arguing that it would slow the economy, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other business groups warn that card-check would let union bosses intimidate workers into forming unions.

Labor groups charge that the current system allows employers to use intimidation tactics to stop workers from organizing. Allowing workers to form unions by checking cards authorizing a specific union to represent them ­ rather than casting secret ballots would solve the problem, they say.

Separately, a coalition of business groups wrote to members of Congress urging that they not sign on to card-check legislation.

“Particularly at a time of economic uncertainty, Congress should not enact measures that threaten our economic competitiveness, including the Employee Free Choice Act,” stated the letter, which was signed by dozens of business groups.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/business-backed-group-blames-unions-...

and they failed! Not from Unions but from bad leadership!

Same thing for the Big 3 Automakers that were for many years, tight wilth big oil!

Caravan of auto dealers, suppliers, workers to head to Washington

8 hours ago

DETROIT, Michigan (AFP) — A group of auto dealers, suppliers and union workers are planning to drive a caravan of fuel-efficient, American-brand vehicles to Washington to press lawmakers to rescue the Big Three US carmakers.

The aim is to build grassroots support for a federal aid package in the wake of criticism that executives from General Motors, Ford, Chrysler and the United Auto Workers did not make a convincing case at congressional hearings last week.

"There was so much misinformation in the hearings last week. I'd love to see something come to fruition where people show what this industry means to the country," said Carl Galeana, president of Galeana Automotive Group, which has domestic and import dealerships in Michigan, South Carolina and Florida.

"I'll do whatever I can to save this industry."

The idea hatched by supplier Dura Automotive on the weekend soon gained support from the Big Three and the UAW.

But while their executives are expected to eschew their much maligned corporate jets, it was unlikely they would drive to Washington with the caravan.

While the caravan is a "great idea ... it's just not something we are in a position to sponsor or manage," said GM spokesman Tom Wilkinson.

"As for our mode of transport, it can be safely assumed it will not be by company plane," Wilkinson said.

A Chrysler spokesman said the automaker was reviewing the plan and had not yet taken a position while Ford spokesman Mike Moran said "We absolutely support their effort. But we are not involved in putting it together."

The plan is to hold a rally in Detroit and then set off on a road trip to Washington with stops along the way for rallies and news conferences.

"We want to help dispel the myths" about the competitiveness of the US automotive industry, said Sean McGuire, Dura's vice president of marketing.

"It's important to show that these are truly high-tech companies that produce a variety of alternate-fuel and high fuel-efficiency vehicles."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g_4JBWanc-GkzcES3yre0xCk0N9A

Who's in charge here - Bush or Obama?

As George Bush doesn't seem to want to be president any more, and Barack Obama can't take over until January, who is running the world's biggest economy at this crucial time?

The difference between their two most recent news conference could not have been more marked. Outlining his treasury team, Barack Obama looked presidential and raring to go from the moment he walked in and the press rose to their feet.

George Bush by contrast looked jaded and reluctant to still be in the job as he announced yesterday's bail-out for Citigroup on the steps of the treasury department. He fumbled through the poorly recorded and low-key press conference with Hank Paulson standing awkwardly beside him.

Is Bush working any more, asked Michael Tomasky. He doesn't seem to want to - referring repeatedly to Obama in his press conference as if it was the president-elect's problem now and not in 60 days' time.

So does America have two presidents at the moment, or none?

Earlier this month, Obama refused to go the Washington summit on the financial crisis because he didn't want to tread on Bush's toes.

"The president-elect will respect the fact that we have one president at a time," his aide said.

But Obama's behaviour since has suggested he is not respecting that convention, and that he is acting as kind of co-president. Some call it a "split-screen presidency", although he has no formal power until the end of January.

As Bush "is hardly being president at the moment", others wonder why Obama can't just take over now.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2008/nov/25/bush-obama-trans...

Obama Holding Press Conference Today
Barack Obama is holding a press conference today at 12 p.m. ET in Chicago, his second press conference as president-elect. He'll probably face some big questions about the economic crisis, about his cabinet picks -- especially Hillary Clinton at State -- and who knows, maybe the dog issue will come up again.

McCain Holding Press Conference, Too
John McCain will be holding his own press conference today, at 2 p.m. ET in Phoenix. It's not quite clear exactly what McCain will be discussing.

http://thepage.time.com/2008/11/24/mccain-to-meet-the-press-tuesday/

Darling to unveil 45p tax on rich to fund recession package

Alistair Darling will announce today that income tax for those earning more than £150,000 a year will rise to 45p in the pound during the next parliament to help pay for Labour's £15bn anti-recession emergency package.

Faced with the challenge of reducing state borrowing from an expected £120bn next year, the chancellor will use today's pre-budget report to break New Labour's 15-year taboo on raising income tax on the wealthy. Darling will also unveil a one-year cut in standard-rate VAT from 17.5% to 15%, in the hope consumers bring forward spending and shorten the recession.

The government hopes that, by targeting the rich, people on low and middle incomes will be reassured that they are not to be the victims of an aggressive spend-now-tax-later strategy. It is expected the measure will raise £2bn.

Robert Chote, the director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, the UK's leading tax thinktank, said the change would affect only 400,000 high earners. "You are not going to raise an enormous amount of revenue from this," he said. The current top rate of tax – 40p in the pound – hits earnings of more than £39,825 a year, affecting about 4 million people.

Today Darling told the cabinet "that the central objective of the PBR is to support firms and businesses now in difficult times when people need help the most, while ensuring that we remain on course for economic stability and sustainable public finances in the medium term," according to the prime minister's spokesman.

"He emphasised the importance of acting now in order to prevent lasting damage to the economy," the spokesman said. "And he noted that there was widespread support for this type of fiscal stimulus to the economy around the world."

Vincent Cable, the Liberal Democrats' Treasury spokesman, echoed Chote in saying that the measure would raise "negligible" amounts of revenue.

Philip Hammond, the shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, said that the proposed top-rate tax increase "won't even begin to touch the sides" when it came to filling the hole left in the government's finances by borrowing.

"We would prefer there not to be tax increases. Clearly if the government is going to announce the package of additional borrowing there will have to be large tax rises after the election and of course people on higher incomes will have to pay their share of that," Hammond told the BBC.

Geoffrey Robinson, the former Treasury minister and a key Brown ally, admitted on BBC Radio 4's Today programme that the amount of money raised by a new 45p band was "not significant" in relation to the overall amount of money the government would need to find. But he said it was still a "big change" that would make an important statement about fairness.

"After all, those earning over £100,000 over the last 10 years have seen their earnings after tax increase at more than double the rate of those below. They have done extremely well," he said.

con't

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/24/pre-budget-report-alistai...

Palin To Hit Campaign Trail In Georgia Senate Runoff
By Eric Kleefeld - November 25, 2008, 9:43AM
Sarah Palin is going back on the trail!

Palin will be criss-crossing Georgia this Monday on behalf of GOP Sen. Saxby Chambliss, in the final day of campaigning for the very unpredictable Senate runoff, the Chambliss campaign just announced.

Palin will be holding four rallies across the state, in a race that will make the difference in the Dems' efforts to get 60 seats this year, along with the Minnesota recount. This runoff election is all about jazzing up the base -- and whatever her faults, few if any Republicans did as good a job of that this year as Palin.

Chambliss has had some big names coming in for him, like John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney. Democratic challenger Jim Martin, who is lagging by a few points in the polls, has had Bill Clinton and Al Gore come in for him, among others, but one huge Democratic name has eluded him: Barack Obama.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/palin_to_hit_cam...

Obama's Stimulus May Include Work On Highways, Energy, Education
Laura Tyson, an economic adviser to Barack Obama, says that a massive stimulus -- which Sen. Dick Durbin says could reach $700B -- could be used to fund a range of infrastructure projects along with tax cuts.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aipsWW4mbCqI

Who's in charge here - Bush
Submitted by toniD on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:02am.
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Ego-maniacal, narcissistic males- that don't give a damn about this country.

Obama's tax hike for the rich may be delayed

By JIM KUHNHENN – 15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — An economic crisis, rising joblessness and a credit squeeze can make a president-elect refine his words. Today's word is "repeal." During his presidential campaign, Barack Obama promised to repeal President George W. Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy ahead of their scheduled expiration in 2011.

It was part of how Obama would pay for an overall net tax cut aimed at low- and middle-income taxpayers, and an effort to bring what he called "fairness" to the tax system.

No one is talking tax hikes now.

Over the weekend, Obama said he has charged his new economic team with devising a plan that would create or preserve 2.5 million jobs over two years. He said the plan would include broad spending plans as well as the middle- and low-income tax cuts he described during the campaign.

Aides later said the plan would not include any of the tax increases Obama, as a candidate, had said he would impose on taxpayers who make more than $250,000.

Asked Monday when those hikes might go into effect, Obama said, "Whether that's done through repeal, or whether that's done because the Bush tax cuts are not renewed, is something that my economic team will be providing me a recommendation on."

If repealed early, Obama's tax increase on the rich would have generated significant revenue, but not enough to compensate for the cost of his tax cuts. An analysis by the Tax Policy Center, based on January 2008 income projections, estimated that the increases would result in about $43 billion in revenue in 2009 and $45 billion in 2010. Those numbers would be smaller now, as the economy has lowered expected incomes.

Obama's economic advisers say he will not propose any tax increases in the economic plan he unveils in January. It is to be focused entirely on job creation and economic recovery.

Found this video on counterpunch

I hate the Beatles!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sAmWwEIpbs&eurl=

The rights of women as casualties of war
By Ramzy Baroud
Online Journal Contributing Writer

Nov 24, 2008, 00:18

Qurban-Bibi and Nahil Abu-Rada are two women, one Afghan and the other Palestinian, who made news with similar tragedies. But their losses also helped further delineate the plight of millions of women in war zones and poor countries.

The United Nations news service reported on the troubles of Qurban-Bibi, a pregnant woman who simply needed to reach a hospital. Doctors had instructed that she must deliver in an equipped medical facility, considering her previous Caesarean delivery. The desperately poor husband and her brothers opted for a delivery at home, citing the unaffordable taxi ride. The woman almost bled to death. When the delivery turned for the worst, the family rushed her to Faizabad hospital in a nearby province. Her life was saved, but, evidently not that of her baby.

con't

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4043.shtml

Gag ball for Christmas maybe?

He thinks Bush is trying to stick it to Obama so that he will fail.
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Me thinks your brother is right. The question is, will Obama prosecute any of these people?

Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:45am.
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Saw it Nando. Same bull!

make sure and come blog on Friday ok!

Woot Woot !

November 25, 2008 --

THAT although we didn't think it would be possible to silence Ann Coulter, the leggy reaction- ary broke her jaw and the mouth that roared has been wired shut . .

Link

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:50am.
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Wouldn't miss it!

he's going to be too busy putting bush fires out and will take the gerald ford route and put all that distasteful stuff behind us...

(at the risk of being virtually flogged, drawn, and quartered i will point out that a bush fire is the national equivalent of the brush fires that have been devastating california)

she suspects a bad "crying game" moment ensued causing a stiff upper cut to the face.

MMRules on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:53am.

I think there has to be a loud public outcry for justice if there is going to be any hope of making a good case to prosecute the Bush Administration.

I say we get the pitch forks and torches.

What ya doing on Fri.for Sammy's Birthday ?

EmaiL me,if you have to.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

but I'm hoping you participate.

Submitted by MMRules on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:53am.
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I think MM this is one of those lies told when someone is having plastic surgery. It you've seen old footage of Ann-her masculine jawline has strangely become more feminine. Furthermore, she seems to have these disappearing acts. Perhaps keeping those giants balls in a knot is too much.

Okay MM, I'm slapping myself.

eep
Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:57am.

I think there has to be a loud public outcry for justice if there is going to be any hope of making a good case to prosecute the Bush Administration.

*******

Letters,Emails,Phone Calls,Letters,Emails,Phone Calls,Letters,Emails,Phone Calls,Letters,Emails,Phone Calls,Letters,Emails,Phone Calls ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

from 12 - 5 PM CT

Let me know when you are doing this!

I have to email you MMR
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Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:00pm.
but I'm hoping you participate.
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That's a joke NSA man.. ;)

*******

That makes sense Edna about ManCoulter having Plastic Surgery..
But,I was thinking that maybe some drunk dude was trying to get some & found out he/she was a dude too & hit her/him....

Hell,now I'm even confused.. ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

blogshine...

Submitted by MMRules on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:04pm.
I agree Fernando and MM.

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Perhaps we can select a day or week where the blogesphere can send emails & letters. We should encourage friends, family, as well as put pressure on the progressive media. Ring of Fire has been very good about this subject.

really? Never stray even a little? MMR for Pope?

It took me 15 damn minutes to open the freakin jar!!!!

It seems that the glue they use to hold that extra seal on the top of the jar, under the lid, had seeped into the area where the lid screws on.

Good thing none of you could hear me, because it was 15 minutes of heavy cussing. I wanted to throw that jar at something so badly!!!

All that, just to make a sandwich to eat before I have to go to work today!

I did finally get it open with a screw driver.

But,I was thinking that maybe some drunk dude was trying to get some & found out he/she was a dude too & hit her/him....
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MM, may I say, I think your analysis is excellent.

Hot Babes Edition..

I got every question correct..2240 points..

Average score..635 points..

Does that make me a Perv ? ;-)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Your joking right ?

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

another case of i fought the jar and the jar won...

whenever i find myself somewhat overwhelmed by all this top down economic FUBARicity all i have to do is remember that "W" is out of there in january.

is there any way I could get a snail mail address emailed to me from you?

I'd love to send you a holiday card.

I just had a fight with a mayonaise jar!
new
Submitted by dan on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:39pm.
another case of i fought the jar and the jar won...
*******

www.instantrimshot.com

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:45pm.
remember that "W" is out of there in january.

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Correct Jim. Perhaps on January 19, we should have a real New Year's celebration. At the stroke of midnight, we should get the pots & pans and drive the evil spirit of W out.

Then what?

Who ya gonna blame then?

You will still have the same Dems in Congress that drove this bus in the ditch.

Well I guess we can all just agree to support Barack in his War on Terror and let it go at that!

i'm gonna put a set of speaker horns on my VW and go down to Sumas and drive around with my "thank gawd, thank gawd he's out of there" recording.

oh, i don't know, how about YOU

AND firecrackers!

i think the chinese got it right.

morning leah!

life is good,

time for a dogger walk.

What is the attraction?

I don't get it....

"I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain."
-James Baldwin

http://www.feministing.com/archives/012348.html

I'll email it to you.

I'm off to work in a few. Then grocery shopping for what I am going to make for my Nephew who is having Thanksgiving dinner this year.

Pastitsio, which is Greek lasagna.

Submitted by OBAMAS 97 PERCENT on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:59pm.
"W" is out of there in january.
Then what?

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Then! You're out, BITCH!

the chosen one had a short press conference at 12N to announce a few more positions.

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the absolute ignorance and stupidity of the people calling in on the republican line is astounding.

Have a great afternoon

Later

C-Klan has encourage every bit of this backward thinking. Most of their callers are from the south. Texas and Louisiana are especially ignorant.

After the passage of Prop 8 and the ban on adoption by gays and lesbians in Arkansas, this is a welcomed victory:

A Miami judge has struck a blow against a Florida law banning adoptions of children by gay people.

Miami Dade Circuit Judge Cindy Lederman ruled Tuesday there was "no rational basis" for prohibiting gays from adopting children.

The ruling will allow 47-year-old Martin Gill to adopt two young brothers he has cared for as foster children since 2004.

Florida has one of the strictest bans on gay adoptions in the country. A judge in Key West ruled in September that the ban was unconstitutional, but that ruling has had limited legal impact.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/25/11499/247/933/666221

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When do I get to vote on YOUR marriage?

We are just starting to mold President Obama.

So far so good!

Nice thing is Barack is very malleable.

He has quickly absorbed the Clinton Staff and Hillary.

He has moved to press forward the War on Terror without missing a beat.

Tax cuts in place.

President Obama is learning his new job quickly.

We are pleased.

I've gotta turn off the C-klan & Hartmann.

:)

Oh, Lordy. It is that time again. Thursday is Thanksgiving— the official kickoff event of the 2008 holiday season. For a lot of progressives, these festivities also mean that we're about to spend more quality time with our conservative relatives over the next six weeks than is strictly good for our blood pressure, stress levels, or continued sanity.

These family gatherings were hard enough to stomach through the appalling years of the Bush Adoration—but this year, it's likely to be even worse. Our beloved family wingnuts were insufferable, in a grotesque Mayberry-on-acid surreal kind of way, while crowing into their succotash about the manly Godliness (or was it Godly manliness?) of Our Divinely Ordained Commander-in-Chief. But this year's different. This year, they're on the way out of power—and they're scared witless about it. Which means big steaming heapin' helpings of liberal-bashing are likely to be featured prominently on the menu next to the mashed potatoes, as they put fresh vigor into every paranoid anti-liberal fantasy ever spouted by Rush, Reverend Pat, or their new darling, Sarah Palin.

The black guy won. Armageddon — or, at the very least, socialism, atheism, gun control, and a national epidemic of erectile dysfunction—must certainly be at hand.

As you prepare to head once again into the family fray, it might be useful to note that most of the right wing's favorite anti-liberal slanders are rooted in some deeply-held—and deeply wrong—assumptions about who liberals are, and what we believe. If your relatives, God bless 'em all, insist on going down that road, your best defense this year might be to listen closely for these underlying myths and fables at work—and be prepared to challenge them head-on when they surface in the discussion.

Here's a basic set to get you started. Tuck it away in your bag with your Xanax and Maalox, and apply (liberally, of course) as needed.

Talking Turkey: Ten Myths Conservative Believe About Progressives

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When do I get to vote on YOUR marriage?

Not Progressives..

You mean Liberals...

But you still have it wrong.

No one worries about Liberals.

Nancy and Harry are Liberals.

Barack is a Liberal!

It's the 3% ya gotta watch.

It's the 3% who hate Capitalism...

It's the 3% who want redistribution...

Why do you think President Obama fought so hard when they tried to tie him to the 3%???

THROUGHOUT the years here -- BUT if it takes a MAN for women & men HERE (for it did not in L.A.,C.A. plus that "area" -- for it is media central} to respond {yawn, eye-roll}
to FINALLY send a few CARDS, then whatever. Remember, the different WAYS of SENDING CARDS... ... then whatever.
The IMPORTANT thing is ORGANIZE then KICK ASS in whatever way.

I feel The People these years whilst I was away and in the mountains have gotten to be SOFT!
WRITING POSTCARDS {of diff types} is THE BLOODY EASY thing to do!

I'VE BEEN like this since I was 4 and now I am 108...

I am *flying* about and will check back if anyone wants to say "sweet or sour" things to me ... cuz everyone has a "right" to VENT, even to me...
*MAJOR Poof*

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081124/pl_politico/26523

After 12 years, breaking up is hard to do...

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. ~ George Bernard Shaw

http://cboblog.cbo.gov/

...their new darling, Sarah Palin."

Like making the kids watch as she demonstrates how Thanksgiving Turkeys come to the table?

Tofurkey sales must be goin' through the roof again this year...

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. ~ George Bernard Shaw

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If we have a chance to do any holiday baking this year, i'd like to do an extended batch to send to someone currently serving, who wouldn't mind passing around a plate of cookies, krumkake, or whatever we make. Any service addresses or leads appreciated.

And by the way, if you get a new cell phone, please consider donating your old one here:
www.cellphonesforsoldiers.com

I'd say how about VP-elect Biden's kid?

Security concerns would probably get in the way....

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. ~ George Bernard Shaw

Date: Nov 24, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Tibetan Glaciers Melting at Stunning Rate
Body:
Tibetan Glaciers Melting at Stunning Rate

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Getty Images | Discovery News Video

Disappearing Water Supply

Rongbuk Glacier in Tibet, as seen from Mount Everest. This and other glaciers in the area are losing more ice than scientists have realized, research shows. Glaciers serve as vital water resources for people living in the region and their disappearance could spell trouble.

Glaciers high in the Himalayas are dwindling faster than anyone thought, putting nearly a billion people living in South Asia in peril of losing their water supply.

Throughout India, China, and Nepal, some 15,000 glaciers speckle the Tibetan Plateau, some of the highest land in the world. There, perched in thin, frigid air up to 7,200 meters (23,622 feet) above sea level, the ice might seem secluded from the effects of global warming.

But just the opposite is proving true, according to new research published last week in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University and a team of researchers traveled to central Himalayas in 2006 to study the Naimona'nyi glacier, expecting to find some melting.
Mountain glaciers have been receding all over the world since the 1990's and there was no reason this one, which provides water to the mighty Ganges, Indus, and
Brahmaputra Rivers, should be any different.

But when the team analyzed samples of glacier, what they found stunned them. Glaciers around the planet are usually dated by looking for two pulses of radioactivity buried in the ice. These are the leftovers from American and Russian atomic bomb testing in the 1950's and 1960's.

In the Naimona'nyi samples, there was no sign of the tests.
In fact, the glacier had melted so much that the exposed surface of the glacier dated to 1944.

"We were very surprised not to find the 1962-1963 horizon, and even more surprised not to find the 1951-1952 signal," Thompson said. In more than twenty years of sampling glaciers all over the world, this was the first time both markers were missing.

He suspects the reason for this is that high-altitude glaciers, despite residing in colder temperatures, are more sensitive to climate change.
As more heat is trapped in the atmosphere, he said, it holds more water vapor. And when the water vapor rises to high altitudes it condenses, releasing the heat into the upper atmosphere, where high mountain landscapes feel the brunt of warming.

"At the highest elevations, we're seeing something like an average of 0.3 degrees Centigrade warming per decade," Thompson said.
"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projects 3 degrees of warming by 2100. But that's at the surface; up at the elevations where these glaciers are there could be almost twice as much, almost 6 degrees.
"

"I have not seen much as compelling as this to demonstrate how some glaciers are just being decapitated," Shawn Marshall of the University of Calgary said.

Marshall, who studies glaciers in North America, said it's striking how much worse glaciers near the equator are than those in the Canadian Rocky and Cascade mountain ranges.

The finding has ominous implications for the hundreds of millions of people who depend on the waters of the Naimona'nyi and other glaciers for their livelihoods. Across the region, no one know just how much water the Himalayas have left, but Thompson said it's dwindling fast.

"You can think of glaciers kind of like water towers, " he said.
"They collect water from the monsoon in the wet season, and release it in the dry season. But how effective they are depends on how much water is in the towers.
"

Related Links:

Discovery Blog: Earth Impacts
Global Carbon Project (GCP)
Related Content:

Project Earth

Mom = *Family First*
Mom Two♥
TIGER

Oy vey. Please, SYFPH already.

You were calling Harry and Nancy the 3%-ers before. You were calling Obama a 3%'er when you were creaming your jeans over Hillary. You always refer to this mythical 3% that has secret decoder ring powers to destroy America as you know it. Talk about a tin-foil hat theory giving such awesome power to a minute few.

You contradict yourself in a matter of two sentences within one post and don't even realize you've done it. Stop hitting the whiskey so early; you might make some sense.

But, if you want to just keep on showing us what an idiot you are, then be my guest. ;-p

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My dogs think I'm smart and pretty. Your dogs think you suck.

i'm not sure he's really a kid. seems to me i heard he was attorney general for delaware...

I'm sure he's my age.

I've encountered that before; people taking the term 'kid' as disrespectful. I guess I should be more careful. I've tried to keep it to people obviously younger than me; or when talking about someone in reference to their parents.

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. ~ George Bernard Shaw

>>My dogs think I'm smart and pretty. Your dogs think you suck

Me too!

I think just like th dogs!

not sure if it's a good thing,...

brb, I have an itch I need to scratch and the neighbor's butt to sniff. ;)
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

not an issue. i was thinking more in terms that palin's son serving over there is a "kid" being that he's maybe 19 and there as an option to being in jail for vandalism, while as biden's kid has been thru law school, held some jobs, got appointed or elected attorney general, and has a little more experience.

Before what???

I new Nancy and Harry were cool the minuite they took Impeachment off the table...

You have to go by Outcomes...

Funding Wars...

Lowering Taxes...

Supporting Homeland Security...

Those are all good 97% values...!!!

Good point. Probably explains what I've experienced too.

>>there as an option to being in jail for vandalism

I really wonder how much about Palin's son crime spree we don't know about.

I am certain Sarah was able to intervene and keep more serious (drug) charges off his record.

From what we know about her, she'd use her office to intimidate any underling that didn't play ball.

A very effective tactic in small town politics.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

the amazing double standard of the Repubi-dopes...

Remember how they still blame Clinton for 9-11? even though Bush had been in office for over half a year...

now they want to blame Obama for the financial crisis/recession that started months before he was elected.

Something in that reasoning doesn't add up...at least for anyone who believes in taking responsibility.

as in the party the claims to be all about personal responsibility.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

Seuss lawyers stop holiday Who-ville in Louisville

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_who_ville_stopped.html...

By BRETT BARROUQUERE
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- There will be no Who-ville in Louisville this Christmas.

The city of Louisville is scrapping plans to use the iconic Dr. Seuss village and characters as part of its annual Christmas display after receiving a cease and desist letter from Dr. Seuss Enterprises.

"It appears these lawyers' hearts are two sizes too small," Louisville Mayor Jerry Abramson said.

Barbara J. Orr, the San Diego, Calif., attorney who sent the letter, did not immediately return a Monday afternoon phone call seeking comment.

The city had planned to use "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" as part of its theme for the annual Light Up Louisville holiday celebration. The display called for an area called "LouWhoVille," complete with costumed characters from the Dr. Seuss classic such as Cindy Lou Who and the Grinch.

But the cease-and-desist letter from the law firm DLA Piper, which represents Dr. Seuss Enterprises, said the "Who-ville" name and image, as well as the Grinch, are copyrighted and cannot be used without permission.

The letter demanded the city and the Louisville Convention and Visitors' Bureau halt any use of the characters for the Christmas display and agree not to use the characters in the future without permission. It threatened legal action if the city and tourism bureau did not comply.

Kerri Richardson, a spokeswoman for Abramson, said the city complied with the request and renamed the display "Lou-ville."
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

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Rachel Maddow talks to Robert Redford about the Bush administration's environmental record and the last minute changes to regulations they're trying to get snuck through at the last minute:

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I just had a fight with a mayonaise jar!

Submitted by toniD on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:17pm.

It took me 15 damn minutes to open the freakin jar!!!!

... Good thing none of you could hear me, because it was 15 minutes of heavy cussing. I wanted to throw that jar at something so badly!!!

... I did finally get it open with a screw driver.

____________________

toniD is the only gal I knows who can sashay into the Mayo Clinic 'n come out w/a Rx for a screwdriver.

Mistress Blog Goddess of Sederville for President

Submitted by edna ellen poe on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:25am.

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Who's in charge here - Bush
Submitted by toniD on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 11:02am.
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Ego-maniacal, narcissistic males- that don't give a damn about this country.

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I lovingly inspected every facet of my super-stellar patriarchal intellect, and I came to the inescapable conclusion that I don't give a fuck.

< / sarcasm>

Lincoln and the myth of 'Team of Rivals'

Thinking of shopping at Wal-Mart this holiday season? -

Remember, as America's economy suffers, 70% of Wal-Mart's products are imported from China. America can't afford Wal-Mart any longer.

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>>Ego-maniacal, narcissistic males- that don't give a damn about this country.

I, for one, do give a fuck about this country.

so, I have disproven your point, at least from an existential point of view.

what I don't like about this sort of post...aside from the obvious sexism, is how all females are assumed to have the same POV as the writer.

If you checked there are a whole lot of women who voted McCain/Palin.

there are even Hawkish women in congress.

But I guess it is easier to make it all about sex....
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

Student arrested for 'passing gas' at school

Sheriff's report says the boy was 'disrupting his classroom environment'

The Associated Press | updated 8:47 p.m. CT, Mon., Nov. 24, 2008

STUART, Fla. - A student at a Florida school has been arrested after authorities said he was "passing gas" and turning off his classmates' computers.

According to a report released Friday by the Martin County Sheriff's Office, the 13-year-old boy "continually disrupted his classroom environment" by intentionally breaking wind. He then shut off some computers other students were using.

The Spectrum Junior-Senior High School student was arrested Nov. 4.

A school resource officer placed the boy under arrest after he confessed about his behavior, according to the report. He was charged with disruption of school function and released to his mother.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27898395/

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I'm surprised anyone has interest in the Grinch or Cat in Hat since those shitty movies.

>>those shitty movies.

good point, but concidering how many lazy parents would rather slap in a DVD than read a book to their kid.

I cry for the child who thinks of the movie first and may have never heard or seen the book.
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

being exposed to computers...they prefer visuals (like vids) to books....not all kids..we still have a bunch of extreme book reading kids..but the bulk of kids prefer visuals...

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 4:11pm.

>>Ego-maniacal, narcissistic males- that don't give a damn about this country.

... If you checked there are a whole lot of women who voted McCain/Palin.

there are even Hawkish women in congress ...

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Lysistrata cinches tight her chastity belt, throws open her war chest 'n bays feverishly like a lunatic War Dog for the lamentation of the (other).

Ohio police dog bites man accused of dogfighting

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_arrest_with_bite.html?...

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

DAYTON, Ohio -- Authorities said a police dog bit and helped apprehend a Dayton man wanted on dogfighting charges. Dayton police Lt. Patrick Welsh said a 31-year-old man fled on foot Sunday as officers were responding to a call.

Welsh said the dog grabbed the man on the wrist so officers could arrest him.

The suspect was treated for bites to his hand and taken to jail on previously filed charges of dogfighting.

dr, the action is here: http://maronvseder.com/ (hot post-show action!)

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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

Submitted by WisePolitics on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 4:21pm.

Student arrested for 'passing gas' at school

Sheriff's report says the boy was 'disrupting his classroom environment'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27898395/

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It is well known that George W. Bush likes to fart. He likes fart humor. He is known for frat-boy behavior like farting unexpectedly as a means of shocking people (as, e.g., White House interns).

Now, if Al Capone can be indicted for the lesser charge of tax evasion instead of the long list of his graver crimes, why can we not impeach fart-fanboy Jr. Codpiece in like manner for befouling the air of liberty?

Ooooo...! Those darn pesky 3%'ers! Oooooo!

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As reported on NBC, John Brennan has taken himself out of any consideration for a position in Pres-Elect Obama's cabinet.

John Brennan, President-elect Barack Obama's top adviser on intelligence, has taken his name out of the running for any intelligence position in the new administration.

"The fact that I was not involved in the decision making process for any of these controversial policies and actions has been ignored," he wrote, in a letter obtained by The Associated Press.

This is obviously great news, I would say that the criticism from the left played an instrumental role in preventing Brennan from having any position in an Obama administration. Brennan's position on torture is somewhat, well, tortured. He has come under quite a bit of scrutiny of course, given some of his statements on torture. His position on the issue isn't really clear (except the fact that he hasn't really taken a position), but the fact that he leaves himself open for question on the issue was of course a major problem. Unequivocal opposition of torture should be a prerequisite for any intelligence director, or any position in Intelligence or Justice for that matter.

...

"not involved in the decisionmaking" but there at every point to justify those policies.

Good riddance.

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When do I get to vote on YOUR marriage?

great clip on Crooks and Liars

watch all the other rightwing blowhards on the show laugh at him

I love it how John Amato digs out and resurrects this stuff to show the asininity of those snickering idiots

[F]rom the editors of the NRO:

Given their cavalier disregard for the freedom of conscience, it’s little surprise that the gay lobby is equally disdainful of democracy: They began pursuing legal challenges to Proposition 8 practically before they were done tallying the votes. Lamentably, the state attorney general defending the will of the people will be former Jerry Brown, the liberal former governor who was an open opponent of the measure and tried to sabotage it. The legal challenges will be heard by the same state Supreme Court that overturned California’s previous law forbidding gay marriage back in May. There’s a real possibility the will of the people will be spurned a second time, democracy be damned. They’ve already burned the Book of Mormon. The First Amendment is next.

You could point to regrettable incidents that some in the gay lobby may have taken part in, burning the book of mormon seems particularly inflammatory, if you pardon the pun, but the notion that the first amendment is at stake is pretty rich. The logic, according to our repressed wingnuts, is that the first amendment struggle goes something like this:

Wingnut- “Homosexuals are filthy sodomites who should not have access to marriage.”

Evil gay person- “Nonsense. I demand the same rights as you and will fight for them.”

Wingnut- “Why won’t you respect my right to free speech?”

And there you have the wingnut understanding of the Constitution.

Not to mention, We are a constitutional republic, "in which majority rule is tempered by minority rights protected by law."

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When do I get to vote on YOUR marriage?

Neat....Lysistrata
new
Submitted by Alice on Tue, 11/25/2008 - 4:42pm.

She Is A Grand Mother Teacher To All -- ;)
(Besides reading I also played The Trojan {but with an expanded roll} in the play in my 20's at college)

ahhhhh memories.

"fly'n" about. sea-ya. *poof*

>>(I played The Trojan {but with an expanded roll}

is this the proper setting for talk about `expanded condoms'? ;)

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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

I didn't even "THINK" about Trojans ... the funny is at 'SC that is our mascot DOH

I should have gotten that ... DOH!

"still blushing & laughing" EEK LOL

I reregistered at mVs the other day as AliceIs because I thought Alice was taken..and I'm the one who took it...now I am two Alice's there...

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>>now I am two Alice's there

it is ok. you can change your nic while on the chat.
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>>I didn't even "THINK" about Trojans

how many kids are out there because of people `not even thinking about trojans?'
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

is up!!!

;D LOL LOL

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/4121#new
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"The Once and Future Rajah of Bhong."

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/4121#comment-285284

Anyone who would care what is written about them on a 3% blog could never do the job.

and Who Wrote the Book of Love?

you know that...

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