Today ...Ted Rall, Greg Palast & Audio!

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I think it was mostly SNL News..Amy Pollar & Seth Meyers..But,not sure..
I taped it but,haven't watched much of it yet..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

How's everybody?

Rachel talks to Max Blumenthal about his article which will go up at Salon tonight written with Dave Neiwart that breaks the Palin-secessionist connection wide open.

The Salon article is online now: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnzvy2q5ciQ

Whirlpool to slash 440 Iowa jobs

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D93NB8DG0.htm

I hope you guys tried the new SEEMS LIKE. It's like listening to the Beatles backwards.

The torture techniques deployed against anyone George W. Bush unilaterally labeled an enemy combatant drove some of them insane: - Andrew

Dow up then down - up then down, down, down

Bush is going to reassure us that everything will be okay. NOT

Huh ? :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I did & it got me very dizzy.

mechanics jobs also. I read that in the paper yesterday.
I think it will take place in the San Francisco area. United
would not comment if there will be more lay-offs to come.

HuH?? I agree :)

How you doing ?

New house,cool..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I'm out of the loop on SEEMS Like..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Happe Talk

Doing good.. just a little frazzled @ times.
Yep... I closed on Tuesday - all we have to
do now is finish packing & move. I really hate
moving, this is a good move though.
Hope you are doing good.
We are having nice weather here 2. I hope it
lasts till I move. (Nov. 1st)

Im glad Im not the only one who is questioning
"seems like"

I did it and still don't get it though.

Happe Talk

Which Is It?
For days the McCain-Palin camp has been saying that Palin didn't fire Walt Monegan but that he quit as Alaska's public safety commissioner. But now they claim that the "investigative report" they released last night "will prove Walt Monegan's dismissal was a result of his insubordination and budgetary clashes."

So hard to keep the story straight.

--David Kurtz

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palin_exonerated_by_mc...

Thanks.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

A Whirlpool Corp. spokeswoman said Thursday that the company will lay off 440 workers, or more than 20 percent of the work force, at its Middle Amana plant.

Spokeswoman Jill Saletta says the layoffs are the result of sagging market conditions. The company informed workers of its plans Thursday.

The layoffs will comprise more than 20 percent of the more than 2,000 workers at the plant, which was part of Whirlpool's acquisition of Newton-based Maytag in 2006.

The majority of the cuts will be effective Oct. 20, with some coming a week earlier.

"It's a really tough time," Saletta said. "I'm fairly confident we're not the only ones."

The plant produces bottom-freezer refrigerators sold under Whirlpool, Amana, Maytag and other brand names.

Top Ten Reasons why it is imperative for the Troopergate report compiled by Stephen Branchflower to be made public

10: Maybe once the report comes out people will stop naming their pitbulls “Sarah” and making them wear lipstick. Because that is just all kinds of wrong.

9: It will give Meg Stapleton the opportunity to stop lying about Walt Monegan and Troopergate, and to start lying about why Sarah Palin got her ass handed to her in the Vice Presidential debate.

8: If it doesn’t come out then what will Alaska Progressive bloggers write about all weekend?

7: This investigation has cost Alaskans $100,000. The last time Alaskans spent that kind of money with nothing to show for it, was on exotic dancers and cocaine back in the oil drenched 1980’s.

6: Because the McCain campaign does not want the report to be made public, and when was the last time ANYBODY told Alaskans not to do something and we listened?

5: Once this report is finally out we can all stop pretending to like Dan Fagan.

4: The report will undoubtedly convince the Palins that they need to return home where surely they will be inspired to add yet another offspring to their brood, perhaps this one to be named “Phlegm Palin”?

3: It will allow Alaskans to stop focusing on this distraction and get back to watching for Russians trying to come over the border so that we can shoo them back to where they belong.

2: Once it is released perhaps it can be given as reading material to poor little Bristol Palin who apparently is secreted, along with Cathy Baldwin-Johnson and hockey stud Levi Johnston, in a secret vault deep under the White House, or in a bear cache in the wilds of Wasilla, until her mother’s doomed run for Vice President comes to an end.

And the number one reason why it is imperative for the Troopergate report compiled by Stephen Branchflower to be made public?

1: It will clear the name of Walt Monegan and make his mother, possibly the sweetest woman in Alaska, very happy. I mean just look at her, how can anybody not want to see justice done for her son?

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/

The SNL thing was funny...and especially the end with the Hall and Oates parody song...I haven't laughed that much at anything SNL in awhile...That's the video I want to find today when I get to wireless...

The Bush administration’s refusal to extend a helping hand to those punished by the economy it created is nothing new: Last month, the White House threatened to veto a second stimulus package over opposition to an expansion of food stamps benefits.

Transcript:

Q You mentioned earlier about the pain everybody is feeling as a result of all this. Well, the House passed an unemployment extension bill, which would extend unemployment for all states for seven weeks, and for those that have high unemployment, above six percent, for an additional 13. Would the White House support this bill?

MS. PERINO: Well, Paula, I don’t even think — Congress is not even in session, so there’s no legislation moving through Congress. We have supported unemployment benefit extensions in the past, although we wanted a shorter period of time than many had wanted. I don’t know if there’s some people recommending a 26-week extension. We cut that back to 13 weeks back in June. One of the reasons that we did that is because we want people to be able to return to the workplace as soon as possible.

So unless legislation starts moving that I’m not aware of when Congress isn’t here, I don’t know how we could support it.

Q The Senate comes back in November — November 17th –

MS. PERINO: Well, let’s take it up then, Paula. I mean, it’s October 8th; there’s a long way to go between now and then.

Q I know, but in the meantime, there are people that won’t have unemployment checks between October 15th –

MS. PERINO: Well, my point is, Paula, that one of the things that we want is we want people to be able to return to work. We understand that there are people that are hurting, but we’ve already extended the unemployment benefits. But if legislation isn’t moving between now and November 17th, if then, there’s not a lot that we can do in terms of getting a law passed.

Q So you assume that in states that have high unemployment that those people will be able to find jobs between October and –

MS. PERINO: I hope that everybody who wants to find a job is able to find a job. I can only imagine the anxiety for people who are looking for a job and can’t find one. And it’s hard to put myself in their shoes because I haven’t been in that situation. But obviously states — and there are many of them — that have high unemployment rates have a lot of people who are suffering. But getting back to work would be the best way to help all of us, collectively, them individually, and then us as a country.

By diachronic - October 9, 2008, 10:05PM

I favor the last of these possibilities.

In Glenn Greenwald's article on the NSA phone-sex snooping, he quotes the following exchange, set off with (what else?) a typically implausible lie from GWB:

ROSS: Kinne says she listened to hundreds of Americans simply calling their families …

KINNE: Personal, private things with Americans who are not in any way, shape or form associated with anything having anything to do with terrorism. It was just personal conversations that nobody else should have been listening to.

ROSS: President Bush has reassured Americans again and again:

GEORGE BUSH: It’s phone calls of known Al Qaeda suspects making a phone call into the United States.

KINNE: I would say that that is completely a lie — I would call it a lie — because we were definitely listening to Americans who had nothing to do with terrorism…

ROSS: Kinne says she intercepted, recorded, and transcribed conversations with the military, journalists, and Red Cross and aid workers.

Glenn Greenwald-Link

Now the point is that no one ever believed that particular lie of Bush's. And yet Democrats capitulated. They pretended they thought he was telling the truth, and voted to immunize telecoms that broke they law, they sanctioned these abuses.

I truly feel sorry for them

Link

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/video/episodes/#vid=74...

click on the episode with rachel below the screen

Happe Talk

While Obama was speaking, the DOW was on the rise. The second Bush interrupted, the DOW started back down again.

Everything the NeoCons touch turns to shit.

Every time one of these assholes opens their mouth, people lose something.

YES

ACK!

welcome to the "The Bush Depression"

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/update-thursday-debat...

This is rocking good news...!

Upset On Horizon? Franken Surging Ahead In Minnesota Senate Race

"A funny thing seems to be happening in Minnesota: Al Franken, who trailed in the polls for a long time and whose candidacy was written off by many observers, now seems to be surging ahead of incumbent GOP Sen. Norm Coleman.

And as of yesterday afternoon, Pollster.com has given Franken a narrow lead of 40.0%-39.2% in its trend-line."

Morning Bloggie!

awesome!! thanks for new thread....

...
JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, one of the things that we were talking as the film was playing, the—you’re not often getting Democratic leaders in some of these states really raising a ruckus about this issue.

GREG PALAST: Oh, yeah.

JUAN GONZALEZ: And why is that? In terms of your investigations, for instance, in New Mexico, you mentioned that some of the Democratic leaders were willing to go along with these kinds of purges.

GREG PALAST: Well, as—you know, why don’t Democrats stand up? For the same reason as jellyfish. They don’t—you know, invertebrates, but—or as my co-author, Kennedy, said, they’re cowards. But, you know, he’s true blue. I’m not a Democrat. And, by the way, the guide is totally nonpartisan, so you—which means you can take it into the booth with you, by the way, to protect yourself, the Steal Back Your Vote comic.

And why don’t the Democrats protect voters? Because they’re in on the game.

Can anyoone suggest what might be missing on my computer...I can get mvslive on my older desktop but not my laptop...both have xp, latest flash, firefox 3,etc where should i look next?

from an email from Mark Crispin Miller:

As predicted (here and elsewhere), the Republicans are using their huge propaganda apparatus to accuse the Democrats of planning to steal this election. To anyone who knows what's actually been going on these last eight years, the charge is laughable--
or would be, if it weren't so dangerous.

It's dangerous because so many of our fellow-citizens still haven't learned the facts about the stolen races in 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006, or about the GOP's long preparations to subvert the next election, too. Such facts are still unknown because the press has not
reported them, nor have most leading Democrats even acknowledged them. That silence has now made it very easy for the GOP to pose as victims of election fraud and vote suppression--and thereby to suppress more votes, and perpetrate an even greater fraud this time around.

What the party's done thus far is use the myth of Democratic "voter fraud" not just to cloud the issue, but to justify the passage of Jim Crow legislation, like the photo ID
law in Indiana, the birth certificate requirement in Pima County, Arizona, and other measures meant to disenfranchise Democratic/Independent voters by the tens of thousands.

And now the party plans to push that strategy to its ultimate expression: an effort to undo a Democratic victory on Election Day.

On Wednesday, Investor's Business Daily posted an editorial, "Is ACORN Stealing The Election?" (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=308358130652174)

The tease: "ELECTION FRAUD: A radical group Barack Obama used to work for
is committing voter-registration fraud in several states, ahead of the election. What does Obama know about this scam?"

The whole piece is a tissue of such shrill crapola, which it would take much precious time to blow away. Suffice it to say (one more time) that ACORN has, all along, been scrupulous in its observance of the laws (necessarily, since every move they make is under hostile scrutiny); and that the outfit has prevailed in every lawsuit brought against them by the GOP. As noted earlier, moreover, these recent ACORN "scandals" are a load of rubbish, patently contrived for propaganda purposes. In short, there's nothing there, as any rational observer will discover right away.

But the GOP is not engaged in rational debate or honest inquiry, but dealing in
sensational canards, so as to lay the groundwork for another stolen race--just as in Florida eight years ago, when Bush/Cheney's men deployed exaggerations, lies and livid buzzwords (and a telling moment of mob violence) to subvert the true result of that election and install themselves in power. The strategy for this election is laid out explicitly in the last paragraph of the Investor's Business Daily editorial:

"McCain would be wise to start preparing a challenge to voter registration rolls should he lose the race in a close contest. He'd be crazy not to contest the results in light of these events."

And so we would be crazy to allow the GOP to play that trick on us again. It's
therefore time to set the record straight: about what Bush & Co. has done to our elections in this century, and what they're doing now (the Democrats, as usual, colluding in such evil by just sitting there). Only by aggressively exposing the Big Lie that the Republicans are pushing can we keep them from reversing their quite possible defeat on this Election Day--a loss that they apparently foresee, or they would not be getting ready to "contest" it.

good to read ya.

give everybody my best wishes.

while trying to access the stream?

Just an idea...

from Fanny and Freddie", does Obama respond, finally, with Keating 5?

Yeah or Nay?

I say stomp his ass.

running around like a crazy person over here. this summer has been exciting, fascinating, productive...definitely not relaxing. can't wait to get back to my own bed after 3 1/2 months. just 10 more days!

things are calmer for you two, i hope?

I have the same Int sec on both computers...

Thanks hun!

I forgot to TiVo it.

when he finished it was at 8208....

I am beginning to see a trend here.

'Rednecks for Obama' want to bridge yawning culture gap
AFP

When Barack Obama's campaign bus made a swing through Missouri in July, the unlikeliest of supporters were waiting for him -- or rather two of them, holding the banner: "Rednecks for Obama."

In backing the first African-American nominee of a major party for the US presidency, the pair are on a grassroots mission to bridge a cultural gap in the United States and help usher their preferred candidate into the White House.

Tony Viessman, 74, and Les Spencer, 60, got politically active last year when it occurred to them there must be other lower income, rural, beer-drinking, gun-loving, NASCAR race enthusiasts fed up with business as usual in Washington.

Viessman had a red, white and blue "Rednecks for Obama" banner made, and began causing a stir in Missouri, which has emerged as a key battleground in the run-up to the November 4 presidential election.

"I didn't expect it would get as much steam and attention as it's gotten," Spencer told AFP on the campus of Washington University in Saint Louis, the state's biggest city and site of last week's vice-presidential debate.

"We believe in him. He's the best person for the job," Viessman, a former state trooper from Rolla, said of Obama, who met the pair briefly on that July day in Union, Missouri.

The candidate bounded off his bus and jogged back towards a roadside crowd to shake hands with the men holding the banner.

"He said 'This is incredible'," Spencer recalled.

It's been an unexpectedly gratifying run, Viessman said.

Rednecks4obama.com claims more than 800,000 online visits. In Denver, Colorado, Viessman and Spencer drew crowds at the Democratic convention, and at Washington University last Thursday they were two of the most popular senior citizens on campus.

"I'm shocked, actually, but excited" that such a demographic would be organizing support for Obama, said student Naia Ferguson, 18, said after hamming it up for pictures behind the banner.

"When most people think 'redneck,' they think conservatives, anti-change, even anti-integration," she said. "But America's changing, breaking stereotypes."

A southern comedian, Jeff Foxworthy, defines the stereotype as a "glorious lack of sophistication".

Philistines or not, he said, most rural southerners are no longer proponents of the Old South's most abhorrent ideology -- racism -- and that workaday issues such as the economy are dominating this year's election.

"We need to build the economy from the bottom up, none of this trickle down business," Spencer said. "Just because you're white and southern don't mean you have to vote Republican."

To an important degree, however, race is still the elephant in the polling booth, experts say, and according to a recent Stanford University poll, Obama could lose six points on election day due to his color.

Racism "has softened up some, but it's still there," Viessman acknowledged from Belmont University, site of Tuesday's McCain-Obama debate in Nashville, Tennessee.

Despite representing the heartland state of Illinois, and having a more working-class upbringing than his Republican rival John McCain, Obama has struggled to shoot down the impression that he is an arugula-eating elitist.

Surely he alienated many rural voters earlier this year when the Harvard-educated senator told a fundraiser that some blue-collar voters "cling to guns or religion".

But Viessman, who says he owns a dozen guns, said Obama "ain't gonna take your guns away."

The South traditionally votes Republican -- victories for southerners Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter were exceptions -- but with less than a month to election day, four states in or bordering the South are considered toss-ups: Florida, Missouri, North Carolina and Virginia.

Viessman says he'd like to think his grassroots movement could sway enough people in small-town America to make a difference.

"There's lots of other rednecks for Obama too," he said. "And the ones that's not, we're trying our best to convince them."

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/_Rednecks_for_Obama_want_to_bridge__1009200...

i thought the problem was carter, clinton and allowing black people to get homes (cause that's apparently all freddie mac and fannie mae did) according to the republican talking points. my brain is just not flexible enough to follow all their backflips...

I agree - - if/when will Obama bring up Keating 5 ????

This SEEMS LIKE.
It's about mob based social contracts.

Thank You -- Mr Viessman for telling the truth.

Iraqi MPs say the US is using the country's debts as leverage to force Baghdad into signing the Status of Forces Agreement. Iraqi lawmaker Mohammed Kamid al-Humedawi told Press TV that "Baghdad is under pressure by Washington to accept the security deal in exchange for clearing all of Iraq's debts," .

http://www.innworldreport.net/inn/

Sorry, work is tearing me up
Submitted by Fernando on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 11:38am.

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

just clanking along.

working on getting the crdit card debt down.

itching to do something else and enjoying a beautiful fall season.

A car bomb in Baghdad has killed at least 12 people and injured more than 20, say local police.

The blast struck a market in Abu Dshir, a mainly Shia enclave in the predominantly Sunni district of Dora, in the south of the Iraqi capital.

Several shops were reported to have been destroyed by the explosion and vehicles set on fire.

Dora had been known as an insurgent stronghold but analysts say security had improved in recent months.

Local police said that women and children were among the dead and injured.

Eyewitness Hussein Ali said the attacks was "a horrible catastrophe".

"I believed that my wife was dead when she fell on the ground. I thought shrapnel hit her body, but later on I thanked God that she was unconscious," he told the Associated Press.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7664057.stm

3 cheers for the "SURGE" <<<<< What a bunch of fucking shit.

Obama: McCain riles crowds 'stoking anger and division'

The increasingly rabid crowds that are frequenting John McCain's campaign stops to shout death threats and hurl other invectives at Barack Obama have caught the Democratic candidate's attention.

Obama told voters in Ohio Friday that he won't be distracted by McCain's attempt to "turn the page" away from discussion of the economy and toward negative attacks.

"I think that folks are looking for something different. It’s easy to rile up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that’s not what we need right now in the United States," Obama told the crowd in Chillicothe, according to his prepared remarks. "The times are too serious. The challenges are too great. The American people aren’t looking for someone who can divide this country – they’re looking for someone who will lead it."

McCain's campaign, which has struggled to connect with voters in the face of a deepening economic crisis, has spent the last two weeks making increasingly desperate attempts to paint Obama as an unacceptable choice for president. The GOP candidate and his allies are rehashing Obama's past association with William Ayers, a former '60s anti-war radical, and the attacks are stoking substantial anger within the Republican base.

Supporters of McCain and running mate Sarah Palin have been heard yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" at the candidates' rallies in response to their attacks on Obama.

This video is from CNN.com, broadcast October 10, 2008.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_McCain_riles_crowds_stoking_anger_10...

But I am talking "from the stump", on tv, the same way McCrepit is attacking him, infront of god and everybody where Jane 12 pack can see it.

Nearly half (47%) of Americans are worried that John McCain, if elected, would not finish his first term in good health, a CNN poll shows. Nearly 20% percent of respondents thought the same about rival Barack Obama. Only 7% of those questioned said that the health of a candidate would be the defining factor in their vote, while 24% said they would seriously consider it.

Age may also be a factor in people’s opinions about McCain, 72; a fifth of those surveyed said they would consider a candidate’s years at the voting booth. Both candidates are former smokers, but the electorate seems to care little about that fact, with only 14% expressing worry. McCain, who has had skin cancer, is at a disadvantage there: a third polled said they would be concerned about a cancer survivor.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/ftl.health.poll/index.html

Exxon Mobil Corporation 59.00 -9.00 (-13.24%)
Chevron Corporation 57.06 -6.94 (-10.84%)

Oil dropped below $80

Maybe we will be able to heat our homes this winter without asking Hugo for a handout...

In Race About Crisis, Obama, McCain Mirror Hoover, FDR

We should quit trying to pin the candidates down on policy specifics, writes EJ Dionne in the Washington Post. They’ve given us a “clear sense of who they are and how they would lead,” and that’s all we can ask. The economic crisis is moving so fast that “new ideas could become obsolete in a few days.”

This is not the moment, writes Dionne, to quibble over how the candidates will pay for their programs. We can worry about deficits during boom times, but in a recession, spending is the solution, not the problem. Like FDR, Barack Obama has emphasized no particular big program, but the need not to panic. And like Herbert Hoover, John McCain hopes to win by sowing panic about his opponent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/09/AR200810...

Crisis forcing debt-saddled
Americans to budget

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The bleak outlook for the U.S. economy and the worst credit crunch in decades are pushing many stressed-out consumers to learn some new skills -- budgeting and saving.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_consumers_budgeting;_ylt=Aum.yNngi.goL...

Prudential becomes
latest insurer to warn

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Prudential Financial is the latest major insurer to warn its quarterly profits would miss forecasts, as the shares of rivals were pummeled on concern they would need to raise capital.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_insurers;_ylt=Apxdc6tciMChQM3M23_TNTsDW7oF

Three States and Counting ...
Same-sex couples can now marry in Connecticut.

--David Kurtz

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/10/connecticut_court_overturns_ga...

Frank Schaeffer, writing in the Baltimore Sun ...

John McCain: If your campaign does not stop equating Sen. Barack Obama with terrorism, questioning his patriotism and portraying Mr. Obama as "not one of us," I accuse you of deliberately feeding the most unhinged elements of our society the red meat of hate, and therefore of potentially instigating violence.
At a Sarah Palin rally, someone called out, "Kill him!" At one of your rallies, someone called out, "Terrorist!" Neither was answered or denounced by you or your running mate, as the crowd laughed and cheered. At your campaign event Wednesday in Bethlehem, Pa., the crowd was seething with hatred for the Democratic nominee - an attitude encouraged in speeches there by you, your running mate, your wife and the local Republican chairman.

Shame!

John McCain: In 2000, as a lifelong Republican, I worked to get you elected instead of George W. Bush. In return, you wrote an endorsement of one of my books about military service. You seemed to be a man who put principle ahead of mere political gain.

You have changed. You have a choice: Go down in history as a decent senator and an honorable military man with many successes, or go down in history as the latest abettor of right-wing extremist hate.

--Josh Marshall

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.mccain10oct10,0,755...

More "Outcomes" as the incompedent McInsane campaign drives voters away. I can almost hear the w bush loving McSameVoter/WarPig squealing in agony as his candidates see themselves flailing away in dishonest desparation attacks. ;)
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McCain losing ground with working-class whites

By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer

KITTANNING, Pa. - The steel mills and coal mines of western Pennsylvania helped fuel the nation's economic engine. Today, old factory shells and boarded-up storefronts stand as bleak reminders of those once-prosperous times.

But the voters in working-class enclaves such as this still are a sought-after prize in presidential politics, and many are belatedly backing Democratic nominee Barack Obama.

In the Democratic primaries, working-class whites consistently supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Later polls showed them overwhelmingly favoring Republican nominee John McCain.

Now, driven by fears that their personal finances could further deteriorate, many see Obama as the better choice — their thinking in some cases driven more by concern about how McCain would handle the economy than any growing admiration for his rival.

"I don't know that there's anything I particularly like about him (Obama), but I dislike McCain, and I dislike the way the country is, and Republicans need to change," said lifelong Republican Ruth Ann Michel, 64, a retiree shopping in a market in Butler on a recent day. She said her vote for Obama would be her first for a Democratic presidential candidate...

STORY CONTINUES:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081010/ap_on_el_pr/working_class_voters;_yl...

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Former McCain Strategist Warns Against "Angry Mob"

John Weaver, John McCain's former top strategist, says the Republican candidate is making both a moral and a a tactical mistake by letting abusive hecklers have free rein at rallies:

"People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, the differences with Senator Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared to Senator McCain," Weaver said. "And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive."
Yesterday, McCain encouraged a questioner who ranted about "socialists taking over our country" and referred to Barack Obama and other Democrats as "hooligans." Watch: at link

Snip

One of Washington's longest serving political hands expressed bewilderment and fright over the vitriol coming from McCain-Palin rallies, saying that the anger of the crowds could lead to violence.

"One of the most striking things we've seen in the last few day, we have seen it at the Palin rallies and we saw it at the McCain rally today," said David Gergen, appearing on Anderson Cooper 360 Thursday evening. "And we saw it to a considerable degree during the rescue package legislation. There is a free-floating sort of whipping-around anger that could really lead to some violence. And I think we're not far from that."

Gergen's remark came hours after John McCain and Sarah Palin held a rally in Wisconsin that saw attendees pleading with them to go on the attack against Barack Obama over his past associations and "socialistic" behavior. Earlier in the week crowd members at other McCain-Palin events have screamed out that Obama is a terrorist, has committed treason, and should be killed.

"I really worry when we get people -- when you get the kind of rhetoric that you're getting at these rallies now," said Gergen. "I think it's really imperative the candidates try to calm people down."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/former-mccain-strategist_n_1335...

Better to Be...
Posted by Joe Klein

"a guy of the street" than a guy of the gutter.

But seriously, folks, I'm beginning to worry about the level of craziness on the Republican side, the over-the-top, stampede-the-crowd statements by everyone from McCain on down, the vehemence of the crowds that McCain and Palin are drawing with people shouting "Kill him" and "He's a terrorist" and "Off with his head."

Watch the tape of the guy screaming, "He's a terrorist!" McCain seems to shudder at that, he rolls his eyes... and I thought for a moment he'd admonish the man. But he didn't. And now he's selling the Ayres non-story full-time. Yes, yes, it's all he has. True enough: he no longer has his honor. But we are on the edge of some real serious craziness here and it would be nice if McCain did the right thing and told his more bloodthirsty supporters to go home and take a cold shower. But McCain hasn't done the right thing all year. His campaign is appalling, as the New York Times editorial board said today--and more, it is a national disgrace.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/better_to_be.html

did he get his 401k statement? maybe hes in Hawaii again?

Quote of the Day
"He is not the McCain I endorsed."

-- Former Michigan Gov. William Milliken (R), quoted by the Grand Rapids Press, backing away from his support of Sen. John McCain.

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/index.ssf/2008/10/former_governor_mill...

McCain Campaign Split on Attacking Obama
"Top McCain campaign officials are grappling with how far to go with negative attacks on Sen. Barack Obama in the final weeks of what is turning into a come-from-behind effort," the Wall Street Journal reports.

"Some McCain campaign officials are becoming concerned about the hostility that attacks against Sen. Obama are whipping up among Republican supporters. During an internal conference call Thursday, campaign officials discussed how the tenor of the crowds has turned on the media and on Sen. Obama."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122359909175421497.html

First Read: "The risk in all of this, of course, is looking out of touch in the current environment where the country's entire focus is on the economy. Already, we're hearing whispers -- even among some Dems -- wondering why the McCain folks decided to use Ayers now and not two months ago when they instead went the empty rhetoric/celebrity route."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1526687.aspx

Palin to Appear on SNL
Cindy Adams: "Sarah Palin is doing Saturday Night Live. Not Tina Fey doing Sarah Palin doing Saturday Night Live. But the Sarah Herself. She has already OK'd it. She's booked. It's confirmed. Done deal. Sketches are being sketched as we speak. She -- eyeglasses, haircomb, designer jacket and trunkful of gosh-darns, golly-gees and gol-dangs -- will be on SNL Saturday night, Oct. 25. Sarah's rehearsal time has already been penciled in for Friday the 24th. And it's because she wants to do it. "

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/gossip/cindy/golly__palin_to_play_h...

to just way below average.....

In one study, participants who had heightened activity in a region of the brain associated with a positive attitude produced greater amounts of flu antibodies.

I heard McInsaneVoter/WarDog was being held incommunicado by the FBI for shouting "Kill Him" & "Terroist" at the rabid hate rallies held by the McCain-Palin campaign.

;)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f66_1223515331

Sounds like the cops back home. (only half kidding)

I know this is only a small reassurance in that sad report, but it is a comfort to know at least they still feel they have to "justify" killing people, and they acknowledge there are actually "innocents" in that country.

>>McCain losing ground with working-class whites

this should not worry McCain in the least.

by election time there won't be a working class left!

Ritter was arrested in June 2001,[28][29] but never charged, in police stings in which officers posed as under-aged girls to arrange meetings. Ritter claimed the anonymous leaks of sealed court records of these arrests, which gave rise to these news stories, were a politically motivated effort to distract attention from his revelations about Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

sounds like a person who could easily be blackmailed for political purposes to me...

They ain't the same thing in the Great American Caste System.

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>>Don't confuse working class with middle class

I will confuse anything I wish! ;)

you are right. I saw `working' but read `middle'...

But, with the amount of job losses, the point remains the same.

3 episodes of Grey's anatomy and nursing this chest cold. It was nice to be completely unaware of anything for a period of time.

It is so over for McCain.

I heard an asshole on MSNBC say that as long as Obama is winning, the
stock market will go down. Sounded like a damn blackmailer to me. Just like the rest of them.

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ideological Ayn Rand libertarian guy. But he is also a very narcisisstic type of whistle blower who does it to get lots of attention. He is right about alot of stuff and will expose it to make himself be in the limelight. But basically he is a matcho, military libertarian.

this is all just my opinion.

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It's about to go into the 7000's..... damn... where's the floor???

I can just feel my addictive juices flowing. I think I have a MacBook addiction. God help me.........

Apple Inc. next week is expected to unveil new laptop computers -- including a model that sets a new low price point for the company -- as it sets its sights on one of the fastest-growing categories in the business.

The Cupertino, Calif.-based company issued invitations to media and analysts on Thursday for an event Tuesday that indicated the event would focus on its portable Macintosh line. The invitation shows a single spotlight on the company's logo on a notebook computer.

An Apple spokesman declined to provide further details, but the company is widely expected to unveil new versions of its MacBook and MacBook Pro notebook computers, including a model that would be priced below $1,000 for the first time.

Some analysts are expecting the laptops to start at less than $800, compared with $1,099 now.

That would bring Apple closer in line with the rest of the industry, which is aggressively cutting prices.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122359450578421085.html

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McCain

The Financial System

next we should hear that something bad has happened to Greenspan. et al

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A Possible Solution to the Economic Crisis
What is to be Done?

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Readers have been pressing for a solution to the financial crisis. But first it is necessary to understand the problem. Here is the problem as I see it. If my diagnosis is correct, the solution below might be appropriate.

Let’s begin with the fact that the financial crisis is more or less worldwide. The mechanism that spread the American-made financial crisis abroad was the massive US trade deficit. Every year the countries with which the US has trade deficits end up in the aggregate with hundreds of billions of dollars.

Countries don’t put these dollars in a mattress. They invest them. They buy up US companies, real estate, and toll roads. They also purchase US financial assets. They finance the US government budget deficit by purchasing Treasury bonds and bills. They help to finance the US mortgage market by purchasing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds. They buy financial instruments, such as mortgage-backed securities and other derivatives, from US investment banks, and that is how the US financial crisis was spread abroad. If the US current account was close to balance, the contagion would have lacked a mechanism by which to spread.

One reason the US trade deficit is so large is the practice of US corporations offshoring their production of goods and services for US markets. When these products are brought into the US to be sold, they count as imports.

Thus, economists were wrong to see the trade deficit as a non-problem and to regard offshoring as a plus for the US economy.

The fact that much of the financial world is polluted with US toxic financial instruments could affect the ability of the US Treasury to borrow the money to finance the bailout of the financial institutions. Foreign central banks might need their reserves to bail out their own financial systems. As the US savings rate is approximately zero, the only alternative to foreign borrowing is the printing of money.

Financial deregulation was an important factor in the development of the crisis. The most reckless deregulation occurred in 1999, 2000, and 2004.

Subprime mortgages became a potential systemic threat when issuers ceased to bear any risk by selling the mortgages, which were then amalgamated with other mortgages and became collateral for mortgage-backed securities.

Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan’s inexplicable low interest rate policy allowed the systemic threat to develop. Low interest rates push up housing prices by lowering monthly mortgage payments, thus increasing housing demand. Rising home prices created equity to justify 100 percent mortgages. Buyers leveraged themselves to the hilt and lacked the ability to make payments when they lost their jobs or when adjustable rates and interest escalator clauses pushed up monthly payments.

more:

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts10122008.html

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words we post here if we looked at all of their wiki entries?

Credibility and truthfulness are difficult to gauge when we all are so embedded in our own political leanings....

"Everyone sits in the prison of his own ideas."
-Albert Einstein

Instead of wasting $700 billion on a bailout of the guilty that does not address the problem, the money should be used to refinance the troubled mortgages, as was done during the Great Depression. If the mortgages were not defaulting, the income flows from the mortgage interest through to the holders of the mortgage-backed securities would be restored. Thus, the solvency problem faced by the holders of these securities would be at an end.
The financial markets must be carefully re-regulated, not over-regulated or wrongly regulated.
To shore up the credibility of the US Treasury's own credit rating and the US dollar as world reserve currency, the US budget and trade deficits must be addressed. The US budget deficit can be eliminated by halting the Bush Regime's gratuitous wars and by cutting the extravagant US military budget. The US spends more on military than the rest of the world combined. This is insane and unaffordable. A balanced budget is a signal to the world that the US government is serious and is taking measures to reduce its demand on the supply of world savings.
The trade deficit is more difficult to reduce as the US has stupidly permitted itself to become dependent not merely on imports of foreign energy, but also on imports of foreign manufactured goods including advanced technology products. Steps can be taken to bring home the offshored production of US goods for US markets. This would substantially reduce the trade deficit and, thus, restore credibility to the US dollar as world reserve currency. Follow-up measures would be required to insure that US imports do not greatly exceed exports.
The US will have to restore sound lending practices. It the US government itself wishes to subsidize at taxpayer expense home purchases by non-qualified buyers, that is a political decision subject to electoral ratification. But the US government must cease to force private lenders to breech the standards of prudence.
The issuance of credit cards must be brought back to prudent standards, with checks on credit history, employment, and income. Balances that grow over time must be seen as
a problem against which reserves must be provided, instead of a source of rising interest income to the credit card companies.
Fractional reserve banking must be reined in by higher reserve requirements, rising over time perhaps to 100 percent. If banks were true financial intermediaries, they would not have money creating power, and the proliferation of debt relative to wealth would be reduced.
Does the US have the leadership to realize the problem and to deal with it?
Not if Bush, Cheney, Paulson, Bernanke, McCain and Obama are the best leadership that America can produce.
The Great Depression lasted a decade because the authorities were unable to comprehend that the Federal Reserve had allowed the supply of money to shrink. The shrunken money supply could not employ the same number of workers at the same wages, and it could not purchase the same amount of goods and service at the same prices. Thus, prices and employment fell.
The explanation of the Great Depression was not known until the 1960s when Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz published their Monetary History of the United States. Given the stupidity of our leadership and the stupidity of so many of our economists, we may learn what happened to us this year in 2038, three decades from now.

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Muqtada al-Sadr calls for anti-US protest
Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has called for an anti-U.S. protest to take place in Baghdad on Oct. 18 .The Sadrists oppose negotiations for a security agreement that would extend the presence of U.S. troops in the country beyond the end of the year.

Rogers said that the only solution to the market crisis was to let failing banks and speculators go bankrupt and stop pumping endless amounts of liquidity into the system

Latest US Drone Strike in North Waziristan Kills At Least Nine
A missile strike by a US drone hit a house in Ghundai, in Pakistan’s North Waziristan province today, killing at least nine people,five of them civilians, and four suspected foreign militants. It is the second US air strike in the province in less than a week, as a strike on Friday killed at least 21 people.

I hear you..this is stressing me out...

Have you been bailed out today?

Personality Diagnostic Checklist
World Health Organization ICD-10
Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV

• Callous unconcern for the feelings of others
• Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships
• Reckless disregard for the safety of others
• Deceitfulness: repeated lying and conning others for profit
• Incapacity to experience guilt
• Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors

Subject: The Corporation
Diagnosis of Personality Disorder: PSYCHOPATH
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http://www.thecorporation.com/
http://whocontrolstheworld.com/
http://5actions.org/

The Battle In Seattle in theaters 10/17/2008
http://www.battleinseattlemovie.com/
http://battleinseattlemovie.com/join/

The Corporation Film
pt.1 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3969792790081230711
pt.2 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7365345393244917682
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Is Rape and Plunder illegal yet?
"Public institutions can have a counter-cyclic property, so that means that they can maintain employment in periods of recession, which increases demand, which helps you get out of a recession. A private company can't do that, a recession comes, throw out the workforce, that's the way you make money."
Noam Chomsky
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Who owns... everything?

An AOL Time Warner subsidiary owns the rights to "Happy Birthday." That is why you never hear it used in movies, yet it is sung worldwide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glNjsOHiBYs
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I'm wondering if the only way out of this mess is total collapse.

~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett

In a letter to the editor published in the NY Times today, William C. Ibershof, who was

the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972)

says that he is

amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

Chubby Blooger.

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Blastin' the Bourgeois Bloogers Everywhere!!!!!!!

psychopathic for sure and full of psychopaths in terms of the CEO's as well.

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kudo's for the postal service!

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I started watching that the other day. It's kind of neat, but the people who aren't Noam Chomsky are annoying.

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http://www.vodamusic.com/blog/

The parallels between the collapse of the savings and loan industry in the late 1980s and the Wall Street meltdown of today are unmistakable. Few pieces explain the roots of the S&L debacle--and its relevance today--better than legendary investigative reporter Robert Sherrill's breathtaking 1990 exposé in The Nation, "S&Ls, Big Banks and Other Triumphs of Capitalism."
The section on jailed Lincoln Savings & Loan magnate Charles Keating is particularly memorable. "If any one hustler was the living symbol of the underlying rot of the savings and loan industry as created by Congress and Reagan's biography in the 1980s, it was Charles Keating," Sherrill writes.
A constant in both crises is John McCain. McCain and four other senators (dubbed the Keating Five) intervened to protect Keating from banking regulators. McCain was later rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for "poor judgment" and embarrassed by the $112,000 in campaign contributions, trips and gifts he had accepted from Keating. Cindy McCain and her father were also partners with Keating in a shopping mall development in Arizona. In his autobiography, McCain called the Keating episode "the worst mistake of my life."
McCain eventually became a born-again crusader for campaign-finance reform. But he continued to surround himself with corporate lobbyists and push for greater deregulation of the finance industry, missing the greatest lesson from Sherrill's story: "thievery is what unregulated capitalism is all about."
Sherrill's pathbreaking reporting sheds light on all that was wrong with the deregulatory politics back then--as well as on what has fed our current financial crisis. It's worth a second read: "S&Ls, Big Banks and Other Triumphs of Capitalism," from the November 19, 1990, issue.
Ari Berman

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081027/archive_intro

http://www.7-election.com/

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http://samsedershow.tv/index.html

http://www.mogulus.com/mvslive