Republicans: Waaaaaaa

Thankfully, Pinocchio Palen will give Tina Fey enough material to keep us all in stitches for years.

Poor little Caribou Barbie !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Whiney-Ass-Titty-Babies

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Oh, and ='s pathological liars as well.

Palin's Project List Totals $453 Million - WSJ

Last week, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain said his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, hadn't sought earmarks or special-interest spending from Congress, presenting her as a fiscal conservative. But state records show Gov. Palin has asked U.S. taxpayers to fund $453 million in specific Alaska projects over the past two years.

These projects include more than $130 million in federal funds that would benefit Alaska's fishing industry and an additional $9 million to help Alaska oil companies. She also has sought $4.5 million to upgrade an airport on a Bering Sea island that has a year-round population of less than 100. (Why don't you ask The Discovery Channel instead?)

During an appearance Friday on ABC's "The View," Sen. McCain said Gov. Palin shared his views, and hasn't sought congressional earmarks. "Not as governor she hasn't," he said.

In fact, in the current fiscal year, she is seeking $197 million for 31 projects, the records show. In the prior year, her first year in office, she sought $256 million for dozens more projects ranging from research on rockfish and harbor-seal genetics to rural sanitation and obesity prevention.

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Now caught in yet another bald-faced lie, they are saying 'what we meant is she's asked for much less than the previous governor did!' Less than now ='s zero. Who knew?

Sorry got a phone call. What's the question.

That's $694,785.28 a day. Six hundred ninetey-four thousand, seven hundred and eight five dollars and twenty-eight cents. Every day. Even Sundays!

Palin was grubbing six hundred ninetey-four thousand, seven hundred and eight five dollars and twenty-eight cents out of the federal trough on the very day when John McCain looked America in the eye and said she was taking zero.

And she took it again today, too.

I live here too...in a modest, but nice, condo. I'm right across the park (Washington Park) from the University of Chicago.

Obama lives in Kenwood, I live in Woodlawn...both are in the Hyde Park Township...ALL of the neighborhoods here in the Hyde Park have varying degrees of properties and property values, from dirt poor low-income housing to the million-plus homes and, if anyone who knows Chicago knows, they can be one or two streets over from each other.

The nicer homes here are mostly turn of the century Victorian homes. Obama's is nice, but there are way nicer ones AND much poorer people than him that own nicer homes because they've been here forever and the neighborhoods grew around them. The owners of these homes vary, as well, rich and middle class.

A million dollar home doesn't mean shit in Chicago. My buddy has a single family bungalow in a regular middle class neighborhood that cost him $600,000 four years ago.

Obama has a nice house, there's no question, but a mansion? That's laughable. A few blocks over and many white people would be afraid to get out of their cars.

Hell, I have a friend that won't get out of her car in my neighborhood because it's all black.

here's a map: "A" is Me "B" is Obama. I'm about 1.5 miles from him:

It was a dumb question any way.

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Even some of his family won't vote for Grampy... ;-p

This was the first Republican who, on a national stage, was saying things like, "If we repeal Roe vs. Wade tomorrow, thousands of young American women will be performing illegal and dangerous operations," and, "Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer-reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance." Wow!

Here was a man who was not abiding by partisan lines, who was, instead, living up to his promise of "straight talk" and commonsense thinking. The right-wing Republican base may not have agreed with everything he said, but the rest of America certainly respected him for speaking his mind honestly.

Jump ahead to the campaign Sen. McCain is currently running. Clearly, a lot can change in eight years. Our nation has gone from a time of unparalleled prosperity and peace to one marked by debt in the trillions of dollars, record foreclosures, and a global reputation for warmongering and neo-imperialism.

So, where is the straight-talking, commonsense John McCain of 2000? I'm afraid he is long gone, replaced by a desperate version of himself who seems to contradict nearly everything he once stood for.

What becomes apparent in his ideological about-face is just how out of touch McCain really is with America's working families.

...

But, as he continually demonstrates in this campaign, my cousin John is long gone. "Straight talk" has been replaced with "flip-flop." Saddest all, this is the same man who, when campaigning in 2000, told a crowd of supporters, "I don't think Bill Gates needs a tax cut. I think your parents do."

My parents, John, need some help after the economic destruction Bush has wrought in the last eight years, but it's clear you're not the one who'll give it to us. America's working families no longer recognize you, nor does your own.

Have you ever seen such coverage of a VP?

I remember when Obama got this kind of coverage.

Now everything is about Sarah.

Ya did good John!

For years and years the Bush's and Ronnie before Bush sr. flew into Cincinnati to collect a boatload of money and then they left. Nothing has changed.

You know I could see why FEMA failed so bad during Katrina in NOLA, cuz face it, there's a lot of non-white peeps there. I would have thought they'd be like the FEMA of the 90's if Texas ever got hit. Now they can't even do that right. What's Bush gonna say now? Just one more proof Republicans cannot govern competently.

Bill did a great job.

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I think they should move over to Ky myself. Leave the Dems there to re-colonize the place. Just get that twit Bill Cunningham the hell out!

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We're loving it! And note, doggie...there's so much to talk about today. Your Sarah's like the tart-y icing on a big cake of conservative incompetence, mismanagement and disaster!

Palin's LIES, McSame's LIES, FEMA still fucking up, "Biggest bankruptcy EVER", "Wall St. has WORST day since 9/11", more suicide bombings in IRAQ....on and on and on...

How many Pooches can Republicans fuck in one day??!?!

In an earlier post Sam mentioned his and Mark's new show. Is he referring to the Mon-Thur Maron vs Seder cast or did I miss an announcement and is something else in the offing?

I haven't been to Hyde Park in years. I remember that all the old Railroad Mansions were in that area. South Lake Shore Drive.

Back in the turn of the 20th century and through the depression it was a very high end area. It started to change in the 50's.

Stage one was denial.

Now we're at anger.

Lost was the certainty the this was a sure win, a walk across, for the Dems this year.

And who gets the credit for this stunning turn of events.

Why John McCain of course.

What a history making choice Sarah has become.

I was so busy today. But damn, every chance I got to catch some news everywhere I looked people were callin McCain/Palin liars. I work around only NeoCons. It was one heck of a fun day from that perspective.

I hate to say it but I made money again today in the bond markets.... That's never good.

at Balloon Juice:
"This is a great find - while the McCain campaign has Sarah Palin hermetically sealed in a press free zone, terrified that she might speak without a teleprompter, and while they are getting the vapors about things like… opposition research, it might be instructive to remember what certain campaign operatives thought about fact-finding in headier times. For example, how did our intrepid right-wing citizen journalists and conservative mainstream journalists react to noted politician and seventh grader Graeme Frost?"

From the link above:
"An eleven year old kid is expected to take whatever's thrown at him if he dares to speak out in public, but according to Malkin, a 44 year old woman who's running for the nation's second-highest office should be exempt..."

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

That's what the American voter is looking for.

That's how they live in thier home.

That's how they try to raise thier kids.

That's what they see in Sarah.

And I don't know how you can fight that.

way way way down. It's not over.

OMG!

in the Governors Mansion?

BWWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Fiscal Conservative MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!

is over. He has an apt in Chicago and just got called. His place is under water there.

>>here's a map: "A" is Me "B" is Obama.

You think you know somebody, then they go and do something that calls their whole existence into question..."60th street" has gone and opened a can of worms that will make the "Troopergate" can of worms look like...a much smaller can of worms by comparison,anyway.

Of course, I refer to location of`60th St (If that is your real name) 's house: the corner of South Woodlawn Avenue and East 47th St!!!

maybe we should have been calling you East 47th ST all this time?

First it's their, not thier home.

Second, she lives in her home 300+ days while governor and collects per diem. That's just trashy.

She raises her daughter to get knocked up by self-described fucking rednecks and a son who has to join the military because he got in trouble with the law. Also both her older kids have been said to be substance abusers.

Maybe that's typical for Republican families.

This woman gives trailer trash a bad name.

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John McCain may be trying to sell himself as a "maverick" and a "straight talker" who will tell the truth no matter the consequences, but independent, non-partisan watchdog groups aren't buying it. But, since he wrapped up his party's nomination, John McCain has offered more of the same false attacks and smears. To date, independent, nonpartisan fact checkers have published more than 50 fact checks debunking John McCain's lies and distortions.

To hold John McCain accountable to his own standard, the Democratic National Committee will count and chronicle the lies here on the McCainPedia's "Count the Lies" page.

52 Fact Checks.

http://www.mccainpedia.org/index.php/Count_the_Lies

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Sarah Palin is a fiscal conservative.
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Sarah Palin: Live Begins at Rape

Have you ever been to Alaska?

Have you ever been to Juneau?

You fly in, or take the ferry.

No roads, no trains.

I guess she could have kept the jet.

But that's Sarah for ya.

She's the real deal.

Please spread this wherever you can YouTube were already strong-armed into taking it down. Is Palin now ashamed of her religious practices?????

http://vimeo.com/1679097?pg=embed&sec=1679097

If someone knows how to embed it - even better.

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hahahahahahahahahaha.

This guy skipped Anger and went straight into Panic!

..it has a tanning bed.

So, she puts in the tanning bed but spends more nights at home?

Who does she think she is? George W. Bush? He has a similar problem staying on the job.

You're fucking weak mcvoodoo.

I'm tired trying to engage you.

You're dead to me.

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Sarah has a real family.

Just like the American voters who love her.

Can you imagine how powerful she will be by 2016?

Eight years as President of the Senate and she will run for President.

What a great country!

You can fix your multiples by:

1. Click Edit
2. Replace the Subject: and body with a "." Do not include the quotes. Blog will treat them as SPAM and eventually delete them. Be sure to leave one. ;-)

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Taking the Pale out of Palin
Gov. Palin's spokesman confirms to TPMmuckraker that she installed a tanning bed in the Governor's Mansion.

--David Kurtz
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/its_sunny_all_year_rou...

That sort of blog stutter has happened to many of us.
Ignore that mean-spirited boob upthread.

Palin cut funding for Alaska Special Olympics.
Campaigning in Colorado today, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) promised renewed attention to kids with special needs. She declared, “Ever since I took the chief executive’s job up North I pushed for more funding for students with special needs,” and cited her own family’s experience with the issue. Watch it: at link

It’s a stretch to say she “pushed” for any policy improvements. Though Palin did sign a law increasing special education funding in Alaska, “she had no role whatsoever” in its development, according to the bill’s author, Rep. Mike Hawker (R). Moreover, as governor, Palin vetoed $275,000 in Special Olympics Alaska funds (Page 100, SB 221 with vetoes), slashing the organization’s operating budget in half.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/palin-cut-funding-for-alaska-special...

Just Askin'.....

I can't even go grocery shopping without another hilarious story coming out about Palin.

All "small town-ey", un-elite hockey moms aspire to get that perfect tan at home in a $3000 box.

(picturing Tina Fey) "Thanks but no thanks, sun!
I'm not like that elitist Obama with his exotic Hawaiian vacations! I tan at home in a box!"

She's so in touch with the American Voter!

I wonder if she bought it on Ebay! Of course! She's a fiscal conservative!

sup?

Yeah, I love it here...Hyde Park's very liberal, moreso even than the rest of Chicago, and super diverse ethnically, economically and academically...nice and mellow...friendly people and great neighborhoods!

But you wouldn't be happy about the coverage.

She just keeps getting more popular.

Both CNN and Fox carried Sarah's speech this morning.

Tomorrow Hannity will interview Sarah.

That interview will be shown on Wednesday.

Palin won't meet with 'Troopergate' investigator By GENE JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
36 minutes ago

A campaign spokesman says Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin won't speak with an investigator hired by lawmakers to look into the firing of her public safety commissioner.

McCain campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan told a news conference Monday that the governor, the Republican nominee for vice president, will not cooperate as long as the investigation "remains tainted." He said he doesn't know whether Palin's husband would challenge a subpoena issued to compel his cooperation.

The campaign insists the investigation has been hijacked by Democrats. It says it can prove Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan was fired because of insubordination on budget issues — not because he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080916/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate_3&prin...

AIG asks for it's own Bridge to Nowhere
Chris in Paris · 9/15/2008 08:15:00 PM ET · Link
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Why would taxpayers want to extend a $40 billion bridge loan to AIG? This company has been mismanaged and gambled, so good luck figuring out how to make ends meet like everyone else. Maybe AIG should have spent more time worrying about being a sound company instead of making sure their CEO was showered with riches.

LINK

Rumors that the Fed will cut interest rates
Chris in Paris · 9/15/2008 06:48:00 PM ET · Link
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Absolutely not. Wall Street has already been propped up when they should have been left to die and if this rumor is true, the average American will again get shafted. Wall Street asks and asks and asks but remember, when the tables are turned we all know how much they give a damn about everyone else. There is no reason that we ought to push inflation up again because that is what a rate cut will do. We are now all stuck with Wall Street's problems in terms of debt, higher taxes (yes, they are coming) and a stagnant economy once we hit the bottom. The last thing consumers need is higher inflation now that oil prices are finally "lowering" to just under $100. A rate cut will do nothing to stop the dropping real estate prices nor will it help Americans live any easier. It will only help Wall Street, who only helps themselves.

Let Wall Street find their own way out of their self-create problem. Well, self-create with the help of friendly Republicans such as Phil Gramm and John McCain, that is. Let them pay for their own damned bailout and pay for their own damned wars. If the rich want it so badly, create a fund and leave the rest of us out. Enough is enough.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_bi_ge/fed_interest_rates;_ylt=...

I wish Cincy would secede from Ohio...
Submitted by maggiesboy
I second that motion. I hate Cinci,we lived there 10 long years.

Pastor: Palin Was Part of Abortion Clinic Disruptions
by huntsu
Mon Sep 15, 2008 at 03:30:26 AM PDT
There's a new article in Salon.com on the Reverend Howard Bess, a Baptist minister from outside Sarah Palin's Wasilla compound who regularly fought Palin and her right wing church. He wrote a book, "Pastor: I am Gay," that reports say Palin tried to ban from the local library.

Buried in the article is a little nugget. Palin was involved in an effort to take over the local hospital board and block all abortions in the facility. This forced any woman -- including women who were raped and had to pay for their own rape kit -- who even wanted counseling on abortion to travel to Seattle.

Locals sued the hospital and won an injunction from the state Supreme Court that required the hospital to provide the option, and the local religious right went nuts. They held a picket line to block access to the clinic. And on the picket line?

At one point during the hospital battle, passions ran so hot that local antiabortion activists organized a boisterous picket line outside Dr. Lemagie's office, in an unassuming professional building across from Palmer's Little League field. According to Bess and another community activist, among the protesters trying to disrupt the physician's practice that day was Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin is not only opposed to abortion, she is willing to block access to legal and certified clinics that provide it as an option.

But, no, she's not a threat to women's right to choose. Not at all.

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/15/62252/3231/830/599218

that a man....only thing i cannot bone them

meant to say "than" a man

.

Let's get together, it'll be alright.

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She's No Choice

Shannyn Moore

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Woman mistakes skunk for a cat, gets sprayed

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_not_a_cat.html?source=...

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

MOUNT CARMEL, Pa. -- A Pennsylvania woman who thought she was petting a neighbor's cat got a smelly surprise when it turned out to be a skunk. Not only did the skunk spray the woman before dawn Monday, but it ran into her Mount Carmel home.

Police spent hours at the home before leaving the scene, but there was no immediate word if they were able to remove the animal.

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Information from: WKOK-AM, http://www.wkok.com

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Somebody warn Alice! Skunks are disguising themselves as cats!!!

Todd Palin is going to be on Greta's Fox show tonight.

Funny how Fox gets all the Palin interviews.

Must be because Fox has so many viewers.

I doth protest.
And not too much.

Play 3 O'Clock Roadblock!

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The crowds are getting smaller daily for these liars, the truth that Palin is Falwell in a dress is really starting to bother people on the right that can see the con.

...can we keep Kings Island? I'd hate to lose those awesome wooden roller coasters from my childhood.

Evenin' everybody! Heading home to help my kids with homework. It's a far easier task than the job y'all have been doing trying to help the trolls with theirs (at least my children want to get their facts straight). Mind the SPIT rule. ;-)

Cheers!
-you friendly neighborhood Spunk-Monkey

Jah would never give the power to a baldhead
Run come crucify the dread.

Time alone - oh, time will tell:
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell;
Think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.
Time alone - oh, time will tell:

Ya think youre in heaven, but ya living in hell.

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I love your dirty little lies....

;-)

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See no evil...

Hear no evil...

Time to round up your brother cause the organ grinder is coming and boy is he pissed!

You can keep Little Kings
You can keep Skyline Chili
Hell, keep Montgomery Inn.

Jean Schmidt and Bill Cunningham are off the table!
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Mudflats is must reading for the lastest on Palin.

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/

This McPal'Insane ticket is going to work. If Ali Baba doesn't get
us, his 40 thieves will with their voter-caging, challenging, rejecting,
abstentee-ballot rigging, voting machine jigging, media fixing and
misinforming from every level.

Did you know this Palin freak is a "holy-roller", speaking in tongues
and all the rest of that Pentacostal craziness insanity? God gets a
want-list from people like that, not wishes to fulfill his holy desires
that Christ made on the Sermon from the mount. Love thy neighbour?
Fuck that. Christ died on a cross so we could have a pipeline across
Alaska - get modern, dude.

I see a mix of rich and poor everyday in my office . 25% of the people in the village of 5,000 are on some kind of assistance and about 1% are multi-millionaires. Oh, just like America. The poor are almost all racist because they were raised that way, it's a family thing. What's interesting are the number who are starting to say "I'd rather vote for a black man than keep trying to pay $4.00 for a gallon of gas and a gallon of milk. "

That's when I tell them, "Well, Obama is half white."

Click goes the light bulb over their heads.

My work is done.

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Many years ago for a convention. Went to the ball park their and then went to Covington KY to a night club I believe was called Club Hollywood. Dionne Warwick was there at the time. In the 70's

I can remember that that night club burnt down shortly after.

No not Club Holiwood, but the Beverly Hills Supper Club.

http://judicial-inc.biz/bev..verly_hills_nightclub_fire.htm

You're preaching to the choir brother.

Her hometown church has been featured on prime time cable news (MSNBC Keith Olbermann). We know all about that, it's the gift that keeps on giving.

The only problem here is we often have to go to the UK to find out what's happening here. It is getting better.

We can only pray it continues.

Amen.

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Getting tired now.

Later

I must admit, I do like Obama's aggressive stance on attacking into Pakistan. Looks like if Obama can have his "own" war he is willing to kick some ass!

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Washington, Sept 15 (PTI) Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has supported the cross-border raids by US forces into Pakistan but described them as "baby steps" by the Bush administration in the right direction.
"Senator Obama has been saying for well over a year, in fact, has been saying frankly since before the invasion of Iraq that the central front in the war on terror is Afghanistan and Pakistan. And we need to invest there," Susan Rice, the top foreign policy adviser to Senator Obama, said.

"The Bush administration has come to that point of view. That's the kind of policy we have to pursue and continue, ...This is a baby step, but it's a baby step in the right direction and something that John McCain hasn't been willing to acknowledge," she said.

Senior officials of the administration have parried queries on attacks by American forces inside Pakistan that are supposedly signed by the President himself.

Rice said that President Bush and the administration was doing what Senator Obama believed in, saying invading Pakistan did not mean hurting the country's sovereignty but should be viewed as an act of self-defence.

"President Bush and the administration, indeed, are doing what Senator Obama said we must, well over a year ago. If we have actionable intelligence about a high-value terrorist target inside Pakistan and Pakistan is unwilling or unable to take that target out, such as Osama bin Laden, Senator Obama's view is we should act.

"Not to invade. Not to take over Pakistan's sovereignty, but to take out that target as an act of self-defence," Rice said

..walk towards the light.

There's a whole 'nuther world you're missing.

The longest journey begins with a baby step.

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September 15, 2008.

Lucille's playin' the tunes
McCainVoter sees something good in Obama
toniD is off to the land of Nod

..and so am I.

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G'nite
G'people
G'bloggin'

McCain hits administration policy, but doesn't name Bush
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/52544.html

How Jeb Bush and Lehman Brothers Robbed Florida Taxpayers
http://bartblog.bartcop.com/2007/12/21/how-jeb-bush-and-lehman-brothers-...

Lehman hired Jeb Bush as private equity advisor in '07
http://www.legitgov.org/jeb_bush_lehman_150908.html

Pleasant Days and Long Nights :)

Pakistan Says U.S. Copters Repulsed

By REUTERS

15/09/08 --- -ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Firing by Pakistani troops forced two U.S. military helicopters to turn back to Afghanistan after they crossed into Pakistani territory early on Monday, Pakistani security officials said.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20762.htm

Sarah has cancelled her Indian Hills appearance, she doesn't want to tie up resources. Wonder if she cancelled Hannity. Hannity and Willie both deserve to be thrown off the bus.
Parts of the town don't have power after a storm on Sunday.

For some reason, me, a life-long Democrat, got a solicitation for money from McCain's campaign. For the life of me I cannot figure how they got my name and address nor why they think I'm a Republican. I think it's funny but I'm hoping that there aren't shenanigans going on, like someone reregistering me as a Republican.

By Richard_C_Cook

15/09/08 "ICH" -- - “Train-wreck” doesn't even begin to describe what is starting to happen to the U.S. today with the financial crisis, an onrushing depression, and the failure of George W. Bush's war policy as he is faced down by Iran and the Russian bear.

But in an even broader sense, the West, as a civilization, after a century of world war and the utter failure of global finance capitalism, may have reached its limits.

On Bill Maher, She was great as usual :)

Man I miss her. She should be on more stuff.

Less than two weeks ago Mittens was singing his praises before a national audience...

....today....not so much...

....Now THAT'S change we can believe in!

"sitting on the dock of the bay"
by golly

That ole fart McCain had his way with Mittens. Made him campaign and forced him to turn tricks for funds. Sick really.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

It would have been so cool if Hillary was Obama's VP.

Of if Obama was Hillary's VP.

But Biden is such an afterthought now.

I kinda feel sorry for him.

Make Palin look like more of a clueless joke than she al lready is in the debates

he doesn't need any help.

She can do that all by herself.

I keep hearing that.

But she keep proving them all wrong.

The folks just love her.

I don't know if the folks love Biden?

Even Kissinger is jumping on the Obama bandwagon...

Kissinger Backs Direct Talks 'Without Conditions' with Iran

Look at all of these Republicans crashing our party, adopting Obama's slogans, backing his words and turning on old Pappy McPantsonFire, I think we're gonna hafta add a few cars to the bandwagon...sorry doggie, I guess fucking the pooch is taking its toll...

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Was is not Henry Kissinger who surrendered S. Vietnam to the North.

Then allowed a million people to be sacrificed to the communists?

I think ol' Henry proves the McCain / Bush / Palin point.

Astronomers have taken what may the first picture of a planet orbiting a star similar to the sun.

This distant world is giant (about eight times the mass of Jupiter) and lies far out from its star (about 330 times the Earth-Sun distance). But for all the planet's strangeness, its star is quite like our own sun.

Previously, the only photographed extrasolar planets have belonged to tiny, dim stars known as brown dwarfs. And while hundreds of exoplanets have been detected by noting their gravitational tug on their parent stars, it is rare to find one large enough to image directly.

"This is the first time we have directly seen a planetary mass object in a likely orbit around a star like our sun," said David Lafrenière, an astronomer at the University of Toronto who led the team that discovered the star. "If we confirm that this object is indeed gravitationally tied to the star, it will be a major step forward."

Further study will be needed to prove that the planet is in fact orbiting around the star, as opposed to the possibility, however unlikely, that the two objects just happen to lie in the same area of the sky at roughly the same distance from us.

"Of course it would be premature to say that the object is definitely orbiting this star, but the evidence is extremely compelling," Lafrenière said. "This will be a very intensely studied object for the next few years!"
Astronomers have taken what may the first picture of a planet orbiting a star similar to the sun.

This distant world is giant (about eight times the mass of Jupiter) and lies far out from its star (about 330 times the Earth-Sun distance). But for all the planet's strangeness, its star is quite like our own sun.
ing this star, but the evidence is extremely compelling," Lafrenière said.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080915-first-exoplanet-picture.htm...

that's like f'n amazing.

BUSH DIDN'T WIN EITHER ELECTION!!! Janeane Garofalo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0LfzBETb4Q

Possible First Photo of Planet Around Sun-Like Star
Submitted by gbasin on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 12:31am.

*******
:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

So fucking loosen your tie with some WD40, unplug yourself from that Nazi motherboard and maybe for the 1st time ever in a human form BREATHE...

Possible First Photo of Planet Around Sun-Like Star
Submitted by gbasin on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 12:31am.

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I Wonder If They Ran Around With Their Dinosaurs Too ? ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Young Pat

72 yr old Pat - NOT

http://sryun.blogspot.com/2008/09/deams-white-horses.html

Monday, September 15, 2008

Someone ask me the other day – ‘If you are a writer and a lesbian…Shannon, how come you’ve never written a love story?” I had to laugh, because this was obviously from someone who’s never read any of my scripts, as all of these ‘stories’ are ultimately a love story in one way or another. Billy ends up with the ‘french fry girl’ in MEN IN THE PILLOW. In SHOOT THE MOON, Jeff ultimately falls in love with his family. Even Sarah, in MODEL FAMILY is in love - she’s in love with her family and her world and doesn’t want to lose it.

But, okay…I got the point - how come I’ve never written a Lesbian Love Story and I thought about it and decided – okay, why not a lesbian love story….but not just any lesbian love story. It has to be the best lesbian love story…thus Dreams and White Horses was born.

Three things I love are: anything mystical and magical (i.e. psychic phenomenon, paranormal, spiritism), women, and sci-fi (not necessarily in that order). The thought that I might combine them all into a great lesbian love story seemed rather challenging but I thought I might be up to the task.

Seeing as I’ve always loved Jean Auel’s ‘Clan of the Cave Bear’ and that whole entire series, which although considered historical fiction one can draw out a whole lot of conclusions from her main character, the first ‘white person’, the first Anglo Saxon – what about the first lesbian Jean! She was stronger, athletic, smarter and well, let’s face it she was a lesbian. 

Also, fascinated by Jane Roberts ‘The Seth Material’ and all of that series including Jane’s books she wrote (minus Seth) such as ‘The Education of Oversoul 7’ I thought what better way to incorporate all of these things into a love story than combine all these elements of historical time and places, up to and including now and then include such things as the future and parallel universes as in an ‘Overlord 7’ type fashion, where the main characters meet up with each other as different recarnational lives throughout time and beyond….

Our characters are SoulMates destined to meet throughout time – a world away and sometimes only 2 doors down. Sometimes they meet up and sometimes they don’t and sometimes they get it just right. Mind you throughout time sometimes they are male/female, sometimes they are female/female, so it doesn’t make for a total lesbian love story, but it’s close.

It also enable me to incorporate several small short stories that I had, into a complete narrative but combining them all into a theme – that these 2 soul mates, live many lives and yet still seem to be drawn to each other in each life.

More later on Dreams…
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TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND
ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH...

We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your month of October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be visible within your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states.

We give to you the name of Alabama.

It has been decided that we shall remain within your atmosphere for the minimum of three of your twenty four hour periods.
...

[they're coming to take you away..haha..heehee..] :)

on the ballot in Louisiana and Wisconsin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnA8GUtXpXY
Dr. Rupert Sheldrake

"Have your photo with Obama"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXk4nLIv5jo

http://www.realitysandwich.com/reinventing_collapse

We can love everyone. The Russian, the Ukraine, the Serb or Croat, the Nigerian, the Mexican or the Peruvian or Chilean or whomever. How, though, do we get this general kindheartedness transmitted faithfully?

Americans as US citizens, must apply excoriating and even corrosive analysis to itself by comparing the putative 'ideals' of what it means to be a citizen and the principles espoused at the beginning and eliminate all contradictions to this principle.

I haven't bothered to listen to AAR in a long while but seeing Rachel Maddow on MSNBC made me wonder if she was still doing her radio show. From what I can tell, she isn't; it's just Lionel, Thom Hartmann, and Ron Kuby. It seems really stupid that they won't get someone else to add some variety. I really liked Sam Seder, Marc Maron, and Hal Sparks (who was a very pleasant surprise). All three should get airtime if they still want to do a radio show.

How have you been? :)

Rachel still does her radio show.

episode was just on [adult swim]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy,_the_Daughter_of_the_Devil

~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett

On AAR in about 2 1/2 weeks ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

- a monument to his years in office, is in the planning stages.

The Library will include:

The Hurricane Katrina Room, which is still under construction.

The Alberto Gonzales Room, where you won't be able to remember anything.

The Texas Air National Guard Room, where you don't even have to show up.

The Walter Reed Hospital Room, where they don't let you in.

The Guantanamo Bay Room, where they don't let you out.

The Weapons of Mass Destruction Room, which no one has been able to find.

The National Debt Room, which is huge and has no ceiling.

The Tax Cut Room, with entry only to the wealthy.

The Economy Room, which is in the toilet.

The Iraq War Room. (After you complete your first tour,
they make you to go back for a second, third, fourth, and sometimes fifth
tour.)

The Dick Cheney Room, in the famous undisclosed location, complete with shotgun
gallery.

The Environmental Conservation Room, still empty.

The Supremes Gift Shop, where you can buy an election.

The Airport Men's Room, where you can meet some of your favorite Republican
Senators.

The Decider Room, complete with dart board, magic 8-ball, Ouija board, dice,
coins, and straws.

Note: The museum will feature an electron microscope
to help you locate and view the President's accomplishments.
www.AllHatNoCattle.net

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

LTR

An interesting item from Los Angeles, as Salem Communications owner Ed Atsinger is being sued for the obvious right-wing slant of local talk station KRLA. The Glendale News Press reports that the plaintiff, David Birke, who describes himself as a Democrat, is suing the station and its hosts, including Salem's Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt and Mike Gallagher, KRLA local host Kevin James (link), TRN's Laura Ingraham and Westwood One's Dennis Miller. Birke alleges that the station defrauds the public and misrepresented itself to the FCC by featuring only conservative hosts and "Republican issues."

Birke's complaint alleges that KRLA "has never allowed a Democrat to host a show; uses call screening to 'suppress' calls from Democratic supporters; and violates "campaign finance laws by providing free media for advertising, attacks on Democrats, fundraising and promotion exclusively to GOP officials and candidates.'"

Con't-Scroll down abit at link

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

McCain has ZERO history to suggest he will properly regulate Wall Street
Chris in Paris · 9/16/2008 04:19:00 AM ET · Link
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In fact, all history points towards leaving Wall Street alone to do whatever they want. Let's be clear about McCain's history here. He started his political life in DC in the Keating Five scandal. McCain used his influence to deflect regulators from investigating Charles Keating's troubled S&L, Lincoln Savings. Thanks to McCain's involvement the US taxpayers ended up getting stuck with the $2.6 billion.

Fast forward to this campaign where McCain has relied on Phil Gramm, former Senator who set up the economic problems on Wall Street today and who now works for exclusive Swiss bank UBS. Gramm helped rescue a failing McCain campaign last year and McCain has repeatedly referred to Gramm as his economic brain and his rumored Treasury Secretary. Gramm has a long history of changing Wall Street rules, creating an "anything goes" atmosphere that never, ever, never includes regulation. So for McCain to suggest he is now in favor of regulation is a ridiculous assertion. Who honestly believes that 72 year old John McCain, without any history of encouraging regulations on Wall Street, can change and suddenly be in the lead on regulation? C'mon.
Mr. McCain’s reaction suggests how the pendulum has swung to cast government regulation in a more favorable political light as the economy has suffered additional blows and how he is scrambling to adjust. While he has few footprints on economic issues in more than a quarter century in Congress, Mr. McCain has always been in his party’s mainstream on the issue.

In early 1995, after Republicans had taken control of Congress, Mr. McCain promoted a moratorium on federal regulations of all kinds. He was quoted as saying that excessive regulations were “destroying the American family, the American dream” and voters “want these regulations stopped.” The moratorium measure was unsuccessful.

“I’m always for less regulation,” he told The Wall Street Journal last March, “but I am aware of the view that there is a need for government oversight” in situations like the subprime lending crisis, the problem that has cascaded through Wall Street this year. He concluded, “but I am fundamentally a deregulator.”

Later that month, he gave a speech on the housing crisis in which he called for less regulation, saying, “Our financial market approach should include encouraging increased capital in financial institutions by removing regulatory, accounting and tax impediments to raising capital.”

http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/mccain-has-zero-history-to-suggest-he...

Asia markets continue the fall
Chris in Paris · 9/16/2008 03:07:00 AM ET · Link
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When Republicans scoff at the idea of Obama being popular overseas, sure, I get what they're saying but at the same time, they're also showing how ignorant they are to why that matters. We've seen what an unpopular President does for foreign relations and to an equal degree, the GOP has no idea how unpopular Bush has been from a business perspective. People who generally are more conservative and pro-business think Bush has been a disaster. His policies have been no better in terms of business than they have in anything else. The world does have something to lose when the US chooses poorly because when the US economic engine sputters or stops, everyone feels the pain. (Don't even try telling me China or India are taking over as the new economic engine. That's a joke.) Everyone has seen enough of the mindless Republican policies and want a change. Real change, that is.

To that end, Asian markets have been clobbered today thanks to the failed Bush-McCain economic policies. They allowed Wall Street to gamble beyond its means, ignoring history as well as the basic regulatory functions that they were supposed to provide. Because of those failures - policies which McCain's economic brain still thinks are solid - the world is paying the price. At this moment, the major markets (Hong Kong, China, Tokyo) are all down around 5% and Seoul is down 6%.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26727113

McCain failed to mention his own ties to the Wall Street collapse today
Chris in Paris · 9/16/2008 12:50:00 AM ET · Link
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And if Obama fails to make this the central issue and doesn't put McCain on the hook for this meltdown, we can forget about November. This is the issue on everyone's mind so losing control of this debate will hurt badly. Obama must remain ahead on this problem and quit giving McCain a free ride or launching an intellectual debate over McCain's role (though we saw Obama fighting harder later in the day on Monday, and that's good). He's already given up too much, too easily on owning "change" and without a hard move, he's going to lose on the economy as well. This is a Republican problem and McCain is making a move to appear as though he had nothing to do with it.

David Corn, who has had some brilliant articles on the McCain-Gramm links, has another classic out today. Learn more about what McCain failed to explain today when he criticized the Wall Street failures.
If McCain wants to hold someone accountable for the failure in transparency and accountability that led to the current calamity, he should turn to his good friend and adviser, Phil Gramm.

As Mother Jones reported in June, eight years ago, Gramm, then a Republican senator chairing the Senate banking committee, slipped a 262-page bill into a gargantuan, must-pass spending measure. Gramm's legislation, written with the help of financial industry lobbyists, essentially removed newfangled financial products called swaps from any regulation. Credit default swaps are basically insurance policies that cover the losses on investments, and they have been at the heart of the subprime meltdown because they have enabled large financial institutions to turn risky loans into risky securities that could be packaged and sold to other institutions.

Lehman's collapse threatens the financial markets because of swaps.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9718_mccain_lehman_...

HP to chop 24,600 jobs
Chris in Paris · 9/15/2008 10:43:00 PM ET · Link
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The Republican economy takes its toll, again. After the third quarter GDP numbers come out, we will be seeing much more of these reports.

P.S. One of McCain's top advisers, Carly Fiorina, used to run HP. She got herself a "$21 million severance package" when she was shown the door.

Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch contribute to meltdown

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The carnage capped a tumultuous 24 hours that redrew U.S. finance. Lehman Brothers, an investment bank that predates the Civil War and weathered the Great Depression, filed the largest bankruptcy in American history. A second storied bank, Merrill Lynch, fled into the arms of Bank of America.

http://news.yahoo.com/story/ap/20080916/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown;_...

Merrill Lynch associates were largest contributors to McCain campaign

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Individuals associated with Merrill Lynch, which sold itself to Bank of America in the market upheaval of the past weekend, have given his presidential campaign nearly $300,000, making them McCain’s largest contributor, collectively.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/us/politics/16record.html?_r=1&hp=&adx...

AIG workers on edge as
once-safe company in turmoil

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Disbelief and anxiety were written on the faces of staff at American International Group Inc as they grappled with the idea that their company, which was once the largest insurer in the world and one of the safest places to work, was struggling for its survival.

http://news.yahoo.com/story//nm/20080915/us_nm/aig_mood_dc

McCain may try to shut down
non-partisan Palin investigation

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In July, the four Democrats and eight Republicans on Alaska's Legislative Council voted unanimously to investigate the circumstances of Monegan's dismissal. Although Monegan was an at-will employee who could be fired for almost any reason, lawmakers wanted to see whether Palin tried to use her office to settle a personal score with Wooten.

http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080916/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate

Ike survivors may wait weeks
for hot meals, baths

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Tens of thousands of residents first hunkered down to wait for Hurricane Ike's brutal punch. Those survivors on the wrecked Texas coast must now wait again — for food, water and ice, for the electricity to return to their homes, for that first hot meal and shower.

http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080916/ap_on_re_us/ike

House to vote on
offshore drilling Tuesday

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The House of Representatives is expected to vote on Tuesday on a comprehensive energy package that would open most of the U.S. coastline to offshore drilling, a Democratic aide said on Monday.

http://news.yahoo.com/story//nm/20080916/ts_nm/usa_energy_congress_dc

McCain campaign says Palin won’t talk to Troopergate investigator.
The McCain campaign said tonight that Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) “won’t speak with an investigator hired by lawmakers to look into the firing of her public safety commissioner” in the controversy known as “Troopergate.” The campaign declared the investigation to be “tainted,” despite the fact that the five-member committee is composed of three Republicans and two Democrats. Palin had previously agreed to cooperate and thus was not subpoenaed. Reporting the story tonight, Keith Olbermann said, “It is like installing a giant neon sign over her head saying, ‘I’m hiding something.’”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/mccain-campaign-says-palin-wont-talk...

Bush Administration Forcing HPV Vaccine On Immigrants
In July, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services quietly amended its list of required vaccinations for immigrants applying to become citizens. One of the newest requirements? Gardasil, which vaccinates against the human papillomavirus (HPV). From the agency’s press release:

CDC’s revised Technical Instructions to Civil Surgeons for Vaccination Requirements require the following age-appropriate additional vaccinations to adjust status to legal permanent resident:

* Rotavirus
* Hepatitis A
* Meningococcal
* Human papillomavirus
* Zoster

This regulation goes directly against the advice of Dr. Jon Abramson, chairman of the CDC’s advisory committee on immunization practices. In Feb. 2007, Abramson said that he and other committee members advised that Gardasil should not be mandatory because HPV is not a communicable disease like chicken pox.

The problem with this regulation is that the HPV vaccine is not mandatory for U.S. citizens. Therefore, U.S. citizens are allowed to weight the costs and risks associated with Gardasil, but immigrants are forced to pay-out-of-pocket for a vaccine they might not want to take. Some of the problems with this scenario:

Cost: Without health insurance, the three-shot vaccine can cost $162 per dose, making it the most expensive vaccine on the market. Gardasil manufacturer Merck, which lobbied heavily for state mandates for school girls, would profit greatly from the new regulations

Testing on underserved populations: WOC PhD writes how immigrants and women of color have historically been used as human test subjects: “[Although] Gardasil has already been approved by the FDA recent complications in patients using the drug, 3500 major complaints in a single year and 8000 since the approval, as well as multiple deaths, could indicate that more testing is needed. Why pull the drug off the market when you can study the results through a mandated population?”

Immigration barrier: Jessica Arons, Director of the Women’s Health and Rights Program at the Center for American Progress, expressed concerns to ThinkProgress that this mandate will block women from immigrating: “Given Gardasil’s high cost, and the fact that there does not seem to be a public health justification for this particular mandate, I’m concerned that its real purpose is to create a financial barrier for immigrant women who seek to lawfully enter this country.”

HPV is the most common sexually transmitted viral infection in the United States. The two most deadly strains are “responsible for most of the cervical cancer in the U.S., affecting over 10,000 women each year and killing more than 3,700 of them.”

Gardasil has so far proven to be extremely effective in preventing women from contracting HPV and should remain a widely available option for women. But as Jill at Feministe notes, “[E]very woman deserves the right to decide for herself if the benefits of Gardasil outweigh the risks. And we all need to be vigilant when we see the history of reproductive exploitation of bodies of color repeating itself

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/immigrant-gardasil/

Alaskan right wing Talk show host exposes names of Alaska Women that railled against Palin: Called them Maggots
By: John Amato @ 1:00 PM - PDT

Typical conservative maneuver. Right out of the Malkin playbook. KBYR’s Eddie Burke attacks the ladies that organized a rally against Gov. Palin and outs their names on air. Freedom to protest is something right wingers don’t seem to like very much. I’ve been staying off the Palin dog and pony show for the most part because it distracts from John McCain, but this is outrageous behavior by this conservative talkie.

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KTUU:

Opponents of Gov. Sarah Palin’s policies are being threatened. Alaska Women Reject Palin, a local group that opposes the Republican vice presidential candidate, on Wednesday announced plans to host an anti-Palin rally this weekend.Since that announcement organizers say they’ve received intimidating messages.

KBYR talk radio host Eddie Burke admits he is a conservative and a “Palinista.”But on Wednesday Burke resorted to name calling when he found out Alaska Women Reject Palin planned to host a Saturday rally.

“They’re a bunch of socialist maggots, that’s what I’m going to call them — socialist maggots, that’s what they are, a bunch of socialist baby-killing maggots,” said Burke.

I think it’s appropriate to go after Gov Palin’s policies ,but respect her. Burke is out of his mind.

And Alaska is not happy with Palin’s appearance on Burke’s show.

The governor’s appearance on KWHL’s “The Bob and Mark Show” last week is plain and simple one of the most unprofessional, childish and inexcusable performances I’ve ever seen from a politician. Anchorage DJ Bob Lester unleashed a vicious, mean-spirited, poisonous attack on Senate President Lyda Green last week while our governor was live on the air with him.

(Read the rest of this story…)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/15/draft-alaska-conservative-talk-...

Happe Talk

McCain is doing today. He's been on every news program this morning. He's getting all the coverage and where's Obama?

Happe Talk

because you are to busy taking care of your family and are not studying the blog i just wanted you to know something

Incubus cuts me off each time I speak and Mishandled and Icewater pop up to stare in my eyes each time i say something they do not like

just thought i should throw that out there (i told them i would tell on them in a heart beat)

now.....good morning punks!!!

good morning yourll

and a special good morning to spunky monkey because he has always been nice to me and i noticed he popped in last night

LONDON (AFP) — Pink Floyd guitarist David Gilmour has paid tribute to the band's keyboard player Richard Wright, who died of cancer aged 65, praising his "quiet touch" that brought their classic albums to life.

Wright, a founding member of the progressive rock group, wrote and sang several numbers from classic albums including "The Dark Side of the Moon" (1973) and "Wish You Were Here" (1975).

He died on Monday after a short struggle with cancer, his family announced.

Gilmour praised his bandmate's "vitality, spark and humour".

"No-one can replace Richard Wright -- he was my musical partner and my friend," he said. "In the welter of arguments about who or what was Pink Floyd, Rick's enormous input was frequently forgotten.

"He was gentle, unassuming and private but his soulful voice and playing were vital, magical components of our most recognised Pink Floyd sound."

Nice that the Gov. Palin wanted to stay at home and thought it was ok, with her job providing her a home, to charge for personal gain her time while she was not reporting to her office or availible at her job in case of emergency. What I suspect is missing from these figures is the technology it took to have someone in this position availible at her home as well as the security that had to be with her. Given her performance so far in the campaign and her lack of memory for facts I am sure office staff was present every day.

Interesting that she charged to stay home but how much were the costs above that?

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan's military has ordered its forces to open fire if U.S. troops launch another air or ground raid across the Afghan border, an army spokesman said Tuesday.

The orders, which come in response to a highly unusual Sept. 3 ground attack by U.S. commandos, are certain to heighten tension between Washington and a key ally against terrorism.

Pakistan's civilian leaders have protested the raid but say the dispute should be resolved through diplomatic channels.

However, army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas told The Associated Press that after U.S. helicopters ferried troops into a militant stronghold in the South Waziristan tribal region, the military told field commanders to prevent any similar raids.

"The orders are clear," Abbas said in an interview. "In case it happens again in this form, that there is a very significant detection, which is very definite, no ambiguity, across the border, on ground or in the air: open fire."

U.S. military commanders accuse Islamabad of doing too little to prevent the Taliban and other militant groups from recruiting, training and resupplying in Pakistan's wild tribal belt.

Pakistan acknowledges the presence of al-Qaida fugitives and its difficulties in preventing militants from seeping through the mountainous border into Afghanistan.

However, it insists it is doing what it can and paying a heavy price, pointing to its deployment of more then 100,000 troops in its increasingly restive northwest and a wave of suicide bombings across the country.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/16/pakistan-orders-troops-to_n_126...

Happe Talk

sederville!!

All of a sudden, the culture war seems entirely beside the point, an unaffordable luxury in a time of economic turmoil. What politicians actually believe about the economy, what fixes they propose, whether they side with the wealthy few or the hurting many—these become the stuff of elections, the reasons behind people’s votes.

And nothing more exposes the hypocrisy of financial elites riding the coattails of those who revere small-town religious values than a downturn that highlights the vast gulf in power between the two key components of the conservative coalition. Even cultural conservatives will start to notice that McCain’s tax policies are geared toward the wealthy investing class and Obama’s toward the paycheck crowd. Even the most ardent friends of business have begun to argue that a re-engagement with sensible regulation is essential to restoring capitalism’s health.

For some time, McCain’s strategists figured they could deflect attention from the big issues by turning Palin into a country-and-western celebrity and launching so many ill-founded attacks on Obama that the truth would never catch up. The approach of the McCain strategists reflected a low opinion of average voters and some Obama supporters began worrying they might be right.

But those so-called average voters understand the difference between low- and high-stakes elections. They develop a reasonably good sense of who is telling the truth and who is not. And though it sometimes takes a while—and a shock like this week’s economic news—these voters almost always turn on politicians who manipulate cultural symbols by way of escaping the consequences of their policies.

In 1936, FDR argued that “private enterprise, indeed, became too private. It became privileged enterprise, not free enterprise.” He insisted that “freedom is no half-and-half affair. If the average citizen is guaranteed equal opportunity in the polling place, he must have equal opportunity in the market place.”

The stakes in this year’s election went way up this week. The days of Paris, Britney and the exploitation of divisions around race, gender and religion are over.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080915_mccains_political_games_can...

Happe Talk

Consider this parallel: Does anyone believe that if McCain were president and had selected Palin under the 25th Amendment to fill a vacancy in the vice presidency Congress would have confirmed her? Not likely. In fact, it is even less likely that McCain would have even attempted to do so, for he would have embarrassed himself.

While the Constitution does not expressly set forth qualifications for the vice presidency, it strongly implies them --- and Palin falls short.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080912_palin_falls_short_of_vp_sta...

Happe Talk

Fourth Horseman of the Tire-Swing-pocalypse?
Richard Cohen jumps waaaaaaaaaay off the tire swing.

I mean, this is betrayed lover counter-tire-swingism. Must read.

--Josh Marshall

The article:

The Ugly New McCain

By Richard Cohen
Wednesday, September 17, 2008; Page

Following his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 South Carolina primary, John McCain did something extraordinary: He confessed to lying about how he felt about the Confederate battle flag, which he actually abhorred. "I broke my promise to always tell the truth," McCain said. Now he has broken that promise so completely that the John McCain of old is unrecognizable. He has become the sort of politician he once despised.

The precise moment of McCain's abasement came, would you believe, not at some news conference or on one of the Sunday shows but on "The View," the daytime TV show created by Barbara Walters. Last week, one of the co-hosts, Joy Behar, took McCain to task for some of the ads his campaign has been running. One deliberately mischaracterized what Barack Obama had said about putting lipstick on a pig -- an Americanism that McCain himself has used. The other asserted that Obama supported teaching sex education to kindergarteners.

"We know that those two ads are untrue," Behar said. "They are lies."

Freeze. Close in on McCain. This was the moment. He has largely been avoiding the press. The Straight Talk Express is now just a brand, an ad slogan like "Home Cooking" or "We Will Not Be Undersold." Until then, it was possible for McCain to say that he had not really known about the ads, that the formulation "I approve this message" was just boilerplate. But he didn't.

"Actually, they are not lies," he said.

Actually, they are.

McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains -- his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that's all -- but just as honorably. No more, though.

I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty. Those doing the accusing usually attributed my feelings to McCain being accessible. This is the journalist-as-puppy school of thought: Give us a treat, and we will leap into a politician's lap.

Not so. What impressed me most about McCain was the effect he had on his audiences, particularly young people. When he talked about service to a cause greater than oneself, he struck a chord. He expressed his message in words, but he packaged it in the McCain story -- that man, beaten to a pulp, who chose honor over freedom. This had nothing to do with access. It had to do with integrity.

McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR200809...

Make a Note of This
Who would you expect to announce that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin won't cooperate with the Alaska Legislature's probe into whether she abused the power of her office in Trooper-Gate?

Not Palin herself. Nor the spokesperson for the Governor's Office. Nor the lawyer the state is paying to represent her in her official capacity in the case.

Instead, that announcement was made today by a spokesperson for John McCain's presidential campaign.

Just keep that in mind as this case unfolds.

--David Kurtz

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/palin_wont_meet_with_trooperga...

by Mike Sauceda/KTAR

Some tough words for Republican presidential nominee John McCain from a man who worked with him in Washington, D.C.

Former Sen. Dennis DeConcini, a Democrat, served eight of his 18 years in the Senate with McCain before DeConcini retired in 1995.

Both Arizonans were among five members of the U.S. Senate investigated as the ``Keating Five" during the collapse of Valley financier Charles Keating's American Continental Corp. empire.

DeConcini believes McCain may have tried to throw him under the bus by leaking information from a Senate Ethics Committee hearing.

``John McCain would throw anybody under the bus as is so clear through his election here," said DeConcini, adding that McCain wasn't able to hurt him too much because McCain had his own problems in the Keating investigation. However, DeConcini said the Ethics Committee gave him a harsher rebuke than McCain.

As for McCain's surprise selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his Republican running mate, DeConcini said, ``John McCain wanted to do something drastic in order to get his campaign quick-started and off the dime, it just didn't appear that it was going to go anyplace."

McCain's campaign has said that Palin will not talk to the media until reporters can address her with ``respect and deference."

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Just Thinking
Let me get this straight. John McCain's top economic advisor, former Sen. Phil Gramm, is the guy who authored the deregulation law that most agree is the ultimate cause of today's financial meltdown. Tomorrow's and probably next week's too. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. John Thain, CEO of Merrill Lynch, which swirled into brokerage oblivion today, is one of McCain's top economic advisors too. And now McCain says he's going to clean up the mess by putting in tighter regulations and oversight even though he's always supported lax oversight and his top economics guy is the one who loosened the rules in the first place.

--Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/mccain_wall_street_woes_point_...

Jewish voters report calls disparaging Obama

Jewish voters reporting "push poll" calls disparaging Obama, tying him to Palestinian causes

KELLI KENNEDY
AP News

Sep 15, 2008 20:14 EST

Jewish voters in Florida and at least one other state are being targeted by a telephone survey tying Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama to Palestinian causes, an advocacy group alleged Monday.

The Jewish Council for Education in Research says at least two women in separate states were push polled, or asked questions intended to influence voters while pretending to take a poll, on Sunday afternoon from a caller who said he was from Research Strategies.

Joelna Marcus says she became uncomfortable when the caller asked if she was Jewish, whether she was Orthodox and how often she attends synagogue.

The caller then asked if Marcus would be influenced if she learned that Obama had donated money to the Palestine Liberation Organization. The caller also asked how she would vote if she learned that someone on the Illinois senator's staff had close ties to Palestine.

Marcus, a 71-year-old former college professor, said she was furious.

"I said you're not polling me. This is un-American. This is unacceptable," said Marcus, a snowbird who lives in New Jersey and has a house in Key West. "And then this is the scary part. He said if you had not said that you were Jewish, you would have been disqualified."

Deborah Minden, who lives in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood in Pittsburgh received a similar call Sunday afternoon. After asking basic demographic information, Minden, 56, said the caller said, "I'm going to ask you some things about Sen. Obama and you tell me if it would make you more or less likely to vote for him."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/jewish_voters_report_calls_dis...

and is down -101 already.

Asia markets are bad. The whole world markets are down.

Just looked again-150

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no one dares utter the d (depression) word. What else could this be? This is a parallel of 1929 - excesses of Wall street leading to an economic collapse. Then as now, Washington supported the actions of Wall Street that lead to the collapse. This is a repeat of history.
I really hope this opens people's eyes to the nature of capitalism.
I also ask: where has the Securities and Exchange Commission been? That agency is supposed to regulate Wall Street to prevent what has just happened.

End of rant.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

I just love the Left.

What are you going to do Sen Obama?

Sarah to meet with Hannity today.

The SEC has been loaded with rightwingers. Phil Gramm's wife was on the SEC and left to take a position with Enron. What does that tell you?

All these years of republican rule allowed deregulations and people were appointed that looked the other way for profit's sake.

On Wall St., a Problem of Denial
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/business/16nocera.html

Because after you get past the mind-numbing complexity of the derivatives that are at the heart of the current crisis, what’s going on is something we are all familiar with: denial.

Indeed, it is not all that different from what is going on in neighborhoods all over the country. Just as homeowners took out big loans and stretched themselves on the assumption that their chief asset — their home — could only go up, so did Wall Street firms borrow tens of billions of dollars to make subprime mortgage bets on the assumption that they were a sure thing.

But housing prices did drop eventually. And when people tried to sell their homes in this newly depressed market, many of them had a hard time admitting that their home wasn’t worth what they had thought it was. Their judgment has been naturally clouded by their love for their house, how much money they put into it and how much more it was worth a year ago. And even when they did drop their selling price, it never quite matched the reality of the marketplace. They’ve been in denial.

That is exactly what is happening on Wall Street. Ever since the crisis took hold last summer, most of the big firms have been a day late and dollar short in admitting that their once triple-A rated mortgage-backed securities just weren’t worth very much. And, one by one, it is killing them.

Take Richard Fuld, the chief executive of Lehman Brothers. Last summer, as the credit crisis first gripped Wall Street, Mr. Fuld’s firm, which was fundamentally a bond-trading firm, concluded that the problems would be short-lived — and that those firms willing to take big risks would be the ones that would reap the big rewards once things calmed down. So Lehman doubled down on mortgage-backed derivatives — not unlike a Florida condo owner buying a second one to flip 18 months ago.

Big mistake. Ever since then, Lehman has had a terrible time admitting the magnitude of its mistake — or properly pricing its securities. As mortgage derivatives became increasingly toxic, they also became increasingly illiquid. So firms were left to set their own “mark-to-market” price. And just like so many homeowners, they kept pricing their securities higher than they should have.

Earlier this year, for instance, when the hedge fund manager David Einhorn was making his public case against Lehman (he now refuses to talk about the firm), he stressed his belief that Lehman was valuing its securities too high. He turned out to be exactly right.

For a second I thought McCain was going to do something good~~then I came back to reality and realized he was just speaking awkwardly. He's going to appoint a 9-11 commission to investigate finances? Wow, hope it's as effective....

Submitted by papers on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 9:47am.

On Wall St., a Problem of Denial
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/business/16nocera.html

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And by that line of thought, the Republican Party should be collapsing pretty soon.... (let's just hope they don't take the whole country down with them....)

After all the nice things she says about his little Sarah for the past two weeks, Grumpy Grandpa McSame, just can't handle even a basic question from evil commie leftist Mika...in the spririt of true bipartisanship!

oh, and Mike Murphy comes back from exile to share a moment with his "friend", y'know, the friend he called "cynical" a couple of weeks ago off mic....lovely!

should we tell him?....nah

was just on CNBC saying that they the gov't won't step in to save any more companies. He suggested that Dodd was holding a meeting today re the financial mess.

The newsers on CNBC dropped their jaws as he spoke.

What did smart people like me (and hopefully you) do? We didn't fall for the oldest trap in the world. The sure thing. We didn't over extend by taking on debt that was dependent on already rock bottom interest rates continuing to go down or at least stay the same and already sky high real estate prices continuing to go up or at least stay the same. It's called a bubble and they only grow so big and then they either shrink slowly or burst. High risk is just that: high risk. Greed can cause people (and hence companies) to make very foolish decisions. We've been here before. The dot-com bubble of the late 1990s, the savings and loan crisis of the 1980s.

Smart people, like me (and hopefully you), saw this coming years ago when they saw people taking out INTEREST ONLY LOANS that they could not afford to buy property at hugely inflated prices. Or people taking out variable rate loans that maxed them out when the rates were rock bottom and that would break them if the rates went up and the chickens came home to roost.

Greed. It makes people do very, very stupid things. If you don't believe me, just go to Las Vegas or Atlantic City.

Conyers hearing on the fbi and Mueller

Happe Talk

Yep - that was my point about the SEC.

Fed pumps $70B into nation's financial system By JEANNINE AVERSA, AP Economics Writer
20 minutes ago

Urgently trying to keep cash flowing amid a Wall Street meltdown, the Federal Reserve on Tuesday pumped another $70 billion into the nation's financial system to help ease credit stresses.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York's action came in two operations in which $50 billion and then another regularly scheduled $20 billion were injected in temporary reserves.

The maneuver takes place as Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and his central bank colleagues prepare to meet to decide their next move on interest rates and conduct a fresh assessment of the country's financial and economic troubles.

Some believe the financial system turmoil raises the odds the Fed will cut rates. Others still predict the Fed will hold its key rate steady at 2 percent.

In the last few days, the American financial system has been badly shaken as bad bets on dodgy mortgage-backed securities claimed more Wall Street giants.

Lehman Brothers, the country's fourth-largest investment bank, filed for bankruptcy protection. A weakened Merrill Lynch, deciding it couldn't go it alone anymore, found help in the arms of Bank of America. Now, the insurance giant American International Group is dangerously wobbling. Against this backdrop, Wall Street on Monday plunged 500 points, the most since the September 2001 terror attacks.

The cash infusion Tuesday was designed to help ease a spike in the overnight lending rate between banks. A sharp rise in such borrowing costs makes banks reluctant to lend to each other and to hoard cash, worsening already tight credit conditions. Harder-to-get credit has crimped spending by consumers and business, a factor in the slowing economy.

To help grease the financial plumbing Monday, the Fed pumped a total of $70 billion into the system through open market operations.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080916/ap_on_bi_ge/fed_credit_crisis&printe...

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Happe Talk

except your wiring's still a little crossed and your data a little truncated.

"Greed can cause people (and hence companies)..."

should be

Greed and deregulation can cause corporations to hire lobbyists to spend millions to earn the ability to write laws that allow them to invent ridiculous interest rates. And, greed and deregulation can cause corporations to flood people's mailboxes and telemarket them with shady and dishonest "gotcha" offers but not be required to fully and openly explain the fine print and pitfalls or the fees they charge to people.

I know it's hard for you to understand buddy, but don't worry, you're getting there and we're always glad to help you along, after all, you're the little guy, and the little guy is in debt up to his ears.

Don't you not own a home? A car?
Hell, in Bush/McSame's America, you're born into debt.

Pakistan orders troops to open fire if US raids By STEPHEN GRAHAM, Associated Press Writer
27 minutes ago

Pakistan's military has ordered its forces to open fire if U.S. troops launch another air or ground raid across the Afghan border, an army spokesman said Tuesday.

The orders, which come in response to a highly unusual Sept. 3 ground attack by U.S. commandos, are certain to heighten tensions between Washington and a key ally against terrorism. Although the ground attack was rare, there have been repeated reports of U.S. drone aircraft striking militant targets, most recently on Sept. 12.

Pakistani officials warn that stepped-up cross-border raids will accomplish little while fueling violent religious extremism in nuclear-armed Pakistan. Some complain that the country is a scapegoat for the failure to stabilize Afghanistan.

Pakistan's civilian leaders, who have taken a hard line against Islamic militants since forcing Pervez Musharraf to resign as president last month, have insisted that Pakistan must resolve the dispute with Washington through diplomatic channels.

However, army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas told The Associated Press that after U.S. helicopters ferried troops into a militant stronghold in the South Waziristan tribal region, the military told field commanders to prevent any similar raids.

"The orders are clear," Abbas said in an interview. "In case it happens again in this form, that there is a very significant detection, which is very definite, no ambiguity, across the border, on ground or in the air: open fire."

U.S. military commanders accuse Islamabad of doing too little to prevent the Taliban and other militant groups from recruiting, training and resupplying in Pakistan's wild tribal belt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080916/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan&printer=1;_y...

mombo is the one that said he owns no debt. It's what he said. Do I believe him? No. But if he's a kid that could be true. But then ask his parents how much debt they have.

The Strategy:

The only way John McCain has a chance against Obama is to BECOME HIM!!!

To steal his hard work, to fool voters that he is everything Obama is, but white and (R)....

Notice the poll shift once MP embraced "change", and how crystal clear their lies and deception became...

SO I ASK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...

Do you prefer originals or imitations?, do you prefer respectability or dishonesty?, do you prefer vision or nostalgia? The choice is just that simple.

MoveOn's giving them away totally free--no strings attached. I just got mine, and wanted to share the opportunity with you.

Click this link to get a free Obama button:

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Looks like the Ferengi are returning to reclaim Daemon Rove.

Every child born in this country is automatically 30,000 (also rounded) dollars in debt.

Our national debt has always risen; and, dramatically since the 80s, and UBER-dramatically since Bush took office. There is absolutely no room for deregulation and increased spending, especially on national defense, which is the Socialist program to where the vast majority of our money goes. We spend more on that than all other programs combined. There is no need, but Republicans are a frightened bunch and they need to keep people frightened in order to keep spending on national defense.

Think about how much al Quaeda spent to enact 9/11 relative to how much we've spent on the "War on Terror". It's laughable to think we're winning. The only thing we're winning is the spending war.

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And in the Washington Post, Richard Cohen goes off on McCain, seizing on the Palin pick as a sign of how far gone the candidate is:

McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains -- his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that's all -- but just as honorably. No more, though.

His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.

European, Asian markets slide on growing US financial crisis

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World stock markets swooned again Tuesday as global financial crisis make investors worry that asset prices had yet to hit rock bottom. "My guess is that we haven't seen the bottom," said Tony Dolphin, director of economics and asset allocation at Henderson Global Investors in London.

http://news.yahoo.com/story/ap/20080916/ap_on_bi_ge/world_markets;_ylt=A...

Submitted by [War Dog] on Mon, 09/15/2008 - 8:42pm.

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So very nice to have our resident ijit back.

So, you are saying that Obama's family isn't real? You're a racist piece of shit, War Dog.

And what makes a "real family" in your eyes anyway, War Dog? Statutory rape and teenage pregnancy? Shooting animals from helicopters and airplanes? Pathological lying?

Nevermind. I answered my own question.

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Morning everyone :)

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said ''no thanks'' to a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere.

But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, that's a different story.

A $600 million bridge and highway project to link Alaska's largest city to Palin's town of 7,000 residents is moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales. ...

... ''This is basically an incredibly expensive project that doesn't help commuters, doesn't help create jobs and may drive whales to extinction,'' said Justin Massey, an attorney advising environmentalists opposed to the proposal. ''It is also a project that serves the area where the governor is from, which is near and dear to her heart.'' ...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Palin-Bridge-to-Wasilla.ht...

NOW Endorses Obama-Biden

The blowback on the Palin nomination continues. While the main thread of the netroots buzz is shifting to economic issues - Obama's strength, the reactions to the Palin candidacy are still percolating up from all areas of the electorate.

The other shoe is being dropped on McCain's ill-fated move to attract Hillary Clinton's supporters. It is being seen for what it is ... a McCain/Rove/Bush/Cheney MANipulation of women. No surprise ... guess it's not working out so well for the Repubs after all.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/16/84835/3373/659/600382

According to a press release from NOW, the announcement will be made today at the National Press Club around 12:30 PM. NOW will be joined by a host of women’s rights groups including Feminist Majority PAC, Business and Professional Women/PAC, National Association of Social Workers PACE, National Congress of Black Women, and the Women’s Information Network.

This endorsement is important for a number of reasons. The Rovian-Schmidt attack machine purposefully offered up an unqualified female candidate to take advantage of perceived dissatisfaction among women who put all their hopes on Senator Clinton. What the McCain Campaign has failed to realize is that American women are among the smartest and most well-informed voters in the Nation. We know when we are being manipulated. Assuming women will flock to a woman simply because of some inherent gender sympathy is a sexist assumption of the highest order, and everyone knows what happens when you assume . . .

National Public Radio reported on Morning Edition today that the National Organization for Women, the Nation’s leading women’s rights group, has decided to throw its weight and resources behind Senator Obama. According to NPR, NOW is endorsing Obama today because the organization believes that American women should not be deceived by the addition of Sarah Palin to the Republican ticket. Senator Obama, they argue, is promoting policies and positions that support a woman’s right to bodily integrity and bolster the success of working-class women who deserve a government that is responsive to their concerns. NOW president Kim Gandy explained this morning that this endorsement is a rarity as NOW usually remains neutral in presidential elections. But this time around, claims Gandy, the stakes are too high to stay on the sidelines.

According to a press release from NOW, the announcement will be made today at the National Press Club around 12:30 PM. NOW will be joined by a host of women’s rights groups including Feminist Majority PAC, Business and Professional Women/PAC, National Association of Social Workers PACE, National Congress of Black Women, and the Women’s Information Network.

This endorsement is important for a number of reasons. The Rovian-Schmidt attack machine purposefully offered up an unqualified female candidate to take advantage of perceived dissatisfaction among women who put all their hopes on Senator Clinton. What the McCain Campaign has failed to realize is that American women are among the smartest and most well-informed voters in the Nation. We know when we are being manipulated. Assuming women will flock to a woman simply because of some inherent gender sympathy is a sexist assumption of the highest order, and everyone knows what happens when you assume . . .

http://starcityharbinger.com/?p=1012

See GBC, I'm slowing up!

Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Republican presidential nominee John McCain said the U.S. government should let American International Group Inc. fail to prevent the financial burden from being placed on taxpayers.

``I think you have to, but I also know that there are great efforts being made to try to raise sufficient capital to keep AIG in business,'' McCain said in an interview with CNBC from Miami.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3QsD0.948uc&refer=h...

I doubt it. All of my theories are well supported.

Which theory?
new
Submitted by mambo on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 11:12am.
I doubt it. All of my theories are well supported.

Heh!

I needed a good laugh today!

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said investors shouldn't expect taxpayers to bail them out when financial markets are in turmoil and proposed closer scrutiny of credit-ratings services.

The Illinois senator, reacting to the collapse of New York- based Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., said regulation of Wall Street needs to ``catch up'' with changes in financial markets.

``Whether it's Freddie Mac or some of the investment banks, at some level what you had is a situation in which investors and management at these firms were taking extraordinary risks with enormous upside when the market was good, but you can't have a situation where you expect the taxpayers to foot the bill when times are bad,'' Obama said in an interview yesterday with Bloomberg Television. ...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080916/pl_bloomberg/akvmvsnc5ghk_1

I know I am relatively new here, but I just don't understand why you engage with mumbo et al. I thought we were into spitting. I was not here when war dog was here, but it seems that you oldtimers had quite a relationship with him. Can anyone give me the family history on that? I am quite confused as a new adoptee.

Happe Talk

McCain's family's real because it supports AmeriKKKA... right warpiggie....

Democrats eat into McCain's lead as Palin's halo starts to slip
By Leonard Doyle in Washington
Tuesday, 16 September 2008

There were growing signs yesterday that the "Sarah Palin effect" is starting to wear off and that the Republican candidate, John McCain, has peaked. Democrats took heart from four national opinion polls which show that despite the bounce caused by interest in Mrs Palin, Mr McCain now leads by an average of just 1.6 points, his smallest margin since the Republican convention.

The latest polls come amid a flurry of critical news reports into Mrs Palin which cast doubt on some of her claims to be a squeaky clean reformist. Senator McCain's claims that his running mate had not sought special interest funding from Congress have been shown to be wrong. It emerged yesterday that she had asked the US to fund $453m worth of projects in oil-rich Alaska for the past two years. Among the requests was $4.5m for an airport serving fewer than 100 people on a Bering Sea island and $9m to help Alaska's already hugely profitable oil companies.

Democrats mocked the Alaska governor as "an earmark queen". The disclosures come on top of evidence that her administration also held on to more than $500m in federal funds for a much-derided "bridge to nowhere" which she maintains she vetoed. For two weeks the McCain campaign has wallowed in the media's obsession with Governor Palin. A huge bounce in the opinion polls followed, with women especially declaring that they were changing their allegiance because they admired her so much.

But that appears to be changing as the focus of the election turns to the economy, especially in northern states. In Iowa, a poll in the Des Moines Register gives Barack Obama a comfortable lead of 12 points. In traditionally Republican southern states, however, the McCain campaign remains strong (he has a 20-point lead in South Carolina).

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/race-for-whitehouse/democrats-eat-into...

Remember how you were practically wetting yourself over your post about ONE woman from NOW endorsing McCain-Palin... oh, forget it.

Talking to you reminds me of that Far Side cartoon about talking to dog's and what they actually hear...

Blah blah blah, MAMBO! Blah blah blah blah, Mambo!

oops - i mean governor?

LOL. I'll leave that for Crank to describe.

;-p

But, I will say he definitely ain't "family."

War Dog was on the MRR blog from close to the beginning. For awhile everyone thought he was a plant by Sam. Ther was even photos at our MRR pic site. He posted pictures of what he said was him, his wife, his RV and him bicycle riding. Friendly but sarcastic. Made some way out wierd comments and always posted polls that showed the Pubs in the lead.

Always braged he was financialy set. Always talked about his hot tub. His travels. This new incarnation is easy to spot because he uses similar spelling and gramatical errors and certain phrases like "I love the left".

For awhile, the way he phrased things, I thought that he was foreign born and english was a second language. I still think so.

Sunny Jim and others here can fill you in on more.

He was like a friendly adversary, I think is the best way to explain.

THIS, just might be why...

The McCain campaign says it can prove Monegan was fired in July because of insubordination on budget issues

In a July 7 e-mail, John Katz, the governor's special counsel, noted two problems with the trip: the governor hadn't agreed the money should be sought, and the request "is out of sequence with our other appropriations requests and could put a strain on the evolving relationship between the Governor and Sen. Stevens."

That's right: they claim Chief Monegan was fired for trying to get money to investigate and prosecute rapists, because Palin didn't want to do so.

That should woo women voters!

Speaking of SPIT, wouldn't an ignore feature be really nice to have? Would allow those who enjoy the bickering to carry on, and the rest of us to enjoy comaraderie.

engage him....like an old strange uncle who is always yelling for the kids to get out of his yard.

Happe Talk

at the time, it was my first time blogging. At first, I used to enjoy debating things, but that got old fast for me.

You have to ask the others what their thoughts are on engaging him on the blog. It creeps out once in awhile for me but I am trying to control it. Strange uncle is a good description though.

At the time we had many trolls, Some nastier than others. Many threatening, others like a sliver under your skin you can't get out.

At first many of us thought to engage to know your enemy. When they got nasty and threatening, many stopped and many trolls were banned. Anna saw to that!

War dog told us once, he was writing a book about the blog. Alice will tell you more about that.

We asked Sam for an ignore button a long time ago. He didn't seem to want to do that. Sam engages right wingers on his show and loves to debate them. I guess he thinks we will to.

Q: "Independent economists say that Barack Obama is actually cutting taxes for about 90% of Americans, do you agree with that?"

McCain: "No because many Americans are not paying taxes at all."

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helped create BlackBerry. That's credible right?

Evangelicals and social conservatives have embraced McCain's vice presidential pick for what they call her "pro-family," "pro-woman" values. But in Alaska, critics say Gov. Sarah Palin has not addressed the rampant sexual abuse, rape, domestic violence and murder that make her state one of the most dangerous places in the country for women and children.

Alaska leads the nation in reported forcible rapes per capita, according to the FBI, with a rate two and a half times the national average, a ranking it has held for many years. Children are no safer: Public safety experts believe that the prevalence of rape and sexual assault of minors in Alaska makes the state's record one of the worst in the U.S. And while solid statistics on domestic violence are hard to come by, most - including Gov. Palin - agree it is an "epidemic."

Some members of Palin's administration were focused on the issue of sexual violence. Officials in the Department of Public Safety were devising an ambitious, multi-million-dollar initiative to seriously tackle sex crimes in the state...

...but Palin's office put the plan on hold in July.

Days later, Palin fired its chief proponent, Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, after he declined to dismiss a state trooper Palin accused of threatening her own family members. Palin has said she fired Monegan because she wanted to move his department in a "new direction," and he was not being "a team player on budgeting issues." The dismissal is now at the center of a hotly-contested investigation by the state legislature.

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Yes, that's right. ... [S]he fired the state's leading advocate for domestic violence prevention. Because he wouldn't agree to fire her ex-brother in-law, State Trooper Mike Wooten, on her say-so.

About 274,000 without power, 84 Ohio counties reported wind damage

by Molly Kavanaugh and Ellen Kleinerman/Plain Dealer Reporters

Monday September 15, 2008, 11:38 PM
Strickland declares state emergency, restoring power could take days, clean up could take weeks

For the thousands of homeowners in Bay Village, Shaker Heights, Brecksville and elsewhere who have relied on flashlights, ice chests and carryout food since Sunday, the worst may not be over.

Crews will need several more days to restore electric power, FirstEnergy Corp. spokesman Mark Durbin said.

"We're trying to be as honest as possible. It could be by the end of the week," Durbin said.

Dozens of Northeast Ohio schools were expected to remain closed today because of power outages.

Cleanup of the debris could take weeks.

Sunday's strong winds were blamed for five deaths across the state, including a 12-year-old boy in Lorain. A boater was still missing late Monday after his boat capsized on Lake Milton in Mahoning County.

Gov. Ted Strickland declared a statewide emergency, saying 84 of Ohio's 88 countries had reported damage from high winds that pummeled much of the state for hours Sunday afternoon and evening.

Read the full story in our online Metro section

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/09/about_274000_without_power_84.ht...

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Adviser Says McCain Helped Create the BlackBerry
"Move over, Al Gore. You may lay claim to the Internet, but John McCain helped create the BlackBerry," the AP reports.

"At least that's the contention of a top McCain policy adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin. Waving his BlackBerry personal digital assistant and citing McCain's work as a senator."

Said Holtz-Eakin: "You're looking at the miracle that John McCain helped create."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MCCAIN_BLACKBERRY?SITE=VANOV&SECT...

Former top diplomats urge next president to engage Iran
17 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Former US secretaries of state on Monday urged the next US president to work closely with key allies, engage with Iran, and avoid ruptures with awkward partners Russia and China.

Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, Warren Christopher, James Baker and Henry Kissinger gave advice at a panel here that often appeared closer to the views of Democratic candidate Barack Obama than than to those Republican John McCain.

And although they did not actually endorse Obama, Republicans Powell and Baker joined Albright, a Democrat, in saying that Obama's election as the first US black president would send a powerful message to the rest of the world.

On Iran and Syria, both Republican and Democratic former secretaries backed engagement when they spoke at a panel at George Washington University. McCain slammed Obama earlier in the campaign for taking a similar stand.

"I believe we need to engage with Iran," said Albright who served under President Bill Clinton during his second term.

Powell agreed with Albright.

"Let's get together and talk about nuclear weapons... Start a dialogue at a low level and let it grow over time," said Powell, who served President George W. Bush in his first term.

While serving for President George H.W. Bush in the 1990s, Baker recalled that the elder Bush's administration offered to meet with Iran at the highest diplomatic level, but Iran refused for its own political reasons.

Baker also said the United States might have to contain Iran just as it did with the Soviet Union for decades.

The next American president, he said, should be prepared to warn Tehran that Washington will aim its "strategic deterrant" at Iran if it points a nuclear missile at Israeli or US targets.

Kissinger, who served under both Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, said: "I'm in favor of negotiating with Iran."

..as long as the rapist is a magnificent ape.

Palin agrees but wants to include Grizzlies.

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Congratulations to the John McCain campaign, which has now officially been told off on all three big cable news networks! Attached is a video of MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell taking some hard swings at McCain's sacrificial spokesman, Tucker Bounds, about campaign lying Monday. Also attached: Video of Fox News's Megyn Kelly doing the same thing on right-leaning Fox News Channel. Wow. Remember when CNN did this to Bounds, so McCain cancelled a Larry King interview in a snit? Guess that won't work anymore. Bounds has become a human piñata like Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan before him, as the media hold him responsible for the crimes of his boss, who they can't get at. It's awesome to see, but still all too rare — on all the networks. Watch all the fun video after the jump.

MSNBC, Monday: video at link

http://gawker.com/5050339/mccain-spokesman-told-off-on-all-networks

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

since I am avoidant of confrontation, I will just keep spitting

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Krugman: Phil Gramm would be ‘just the guy’ to lead us into a Great Depression.Filed Under: Economy
By Faiz at 9:45 am Krugman: Phil Gramm would be ‘just the guy’ to lead us into a Great Depression.
Last night on MSNBC’s Countdown, New York Times columnist and Princeton economics professor Paul Krugman pinpointed Phil Gramm as one of the architects of the current financial crisis, and the “odds-on favorite to be the Treasury Secretary” in a McCain administration. Asked by Olbermann what Gramm’s nomination would mean for the economy, Krugman suggested it could lead to another Great Depression:

KRUGMAN: Ben Bernanke and I think Hank Paulson understand that we could manage to have another Great Depression if we work at it hard enough. I think Phil Gramm might be just the guy to do it.

Watch it: at link

Gramm orchestrated the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999 which “destroyed the Depression-era barrier to the merger of stockbrokers, banks and insurance companies.” He also pushed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act in 2000, which made legal “the mortgage swaps distancing the originator of the loan from the ultimate collector.” The Nation writes that “those two acts effectively ended significant regulation of the financial community.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/16/krugman-on-gramm/

Update Hunter at Daily Kos writes, “Given that…Phil Gramm has been credited as mover and shaker behind the very law that allowed the current financial meltdown to happen, I'd love to hear what McCain and Gramm think should be done to solve this crisis. … What's your advice to America this time, Gramm?”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/15/153433/053

I finally watched last weeks Bill Maher with our loverly Janeane... she was on fire I thought. :)

I was also floored by John Fund's ridiculously ignorant comment that terrorists only attack "liberal societies." So, he's saying we have to be a "conservative society" in order to protect us from those big bad terrrrists?

Sounds like he wants to impose something akin to Islamic Law on the U.S.

What on earth kind of logic is this coming from the right?

Five former secretaries of state — including Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, and Henry Kissinger — urged talks with Iran yesterday. “I agree with Madeleine, and I suspect my other colleagues, that we should try to talk to them,” Powell said during a forum hosted by The George Washington University.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1531958420080916?pageNu...

Let's go with the LIAR and COPYCAT sell out candidacy of McStupid/Barbie '08

Because Honesty is just so overrated......

Promoting radical Christian fundamentalists will only increase the likelihood of attack in the US by radical Islamic fundamentalists. The only difference between the two is one of them wear funny headdress.

Palin and pals would like nothing more than a Christian model of Iran's government here. A theocratic state is just that regardless of the religion it's founded on.

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mahppenow,
Submitted by toniD on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 11:54am.
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Their scummy little job does not include debating issues..

That's above their pay grade and intellect !

S.P.I.T.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

John Fund's ridiculously ignorant comment that terrorists only attack "liberal societies."
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Fund is just a Troll at a higher pay grade !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

The Senate will likely vote Tuesday on an amendment offered by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) “that includes language touting the success of the troop buildup that began last year.” Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Jack Reed (D-RI) have offered an alternative “that would offer a more nuanced assessment of the security situation in Iraq.”

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002951009

For reasons that this white woman cannot comprehend, John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin has resulted in a 53% to 37% lead for the GOP team among white female voters. Even more appalling, Newsweek reports that one in three white women is more likely to vote for McCain because he chose Palin as a running mate.
A scholar for the Center for American Women and Politics explains, "It's about how much Democrats can maximize the gender difference and how much the Republicans can hold it down."
Thank the good Lord that the new, aggressive Obama/Biden campaign released a new series of campaign posters to remind American women why they should vote Democrat:

look

http://www.236.com/news/2008/09/15/obama_stumbles_into_a_party_an_8955.p...

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The bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers — “the biggest in US history” — will have repercussions for South Florida. The investment bank controlled “nearly $2 billion in large loans throughout the region.” In late August, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) was reportedly hired “as an advisor to its private equity business.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/fundsFundsNews/idUSN3046902620070830?sp=t...

AIG — the nation’s largest insurer — “faces a cash crunch that grew more severe last night when the major credit-rating agencies warned investors that the company could have greater difficulty in meeting its obligations.” New York state is allowing AIG to use “$20 billion from its own insurance subsidiaries” as collateral for loans to “run its day-to-day operations,” while the Fed says it will not offer AIG any “direct injection from the government.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR200809...

US to sell bunker-busters to Israel
DoD plans to sell 1,000 of the powerful bombs in deal worth $77 million.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_to_sell_bunker_busting_bombs_to__0916200...

Intel rolls out computer chip with six brains

Intel on Monday rolled out its first chip with six brains, unveiling a "multi-core" microprocessor that boosts computing muscle while cutting back on electricity use.

The world's leading computer chip maker's new Xeon 7400 series microprocessor is tailored for businesses that want to boost server performance while conserving on space and energy.

Intel executives say the Xeon 7400 is part of an "incremental migration" toward chips with limitless numbers of "cores" that seamlessly and efficiently share demanding computer processing tasks.

Intel and rival Advanced Micro Devices have two-core and four-core chips on the market.

The six-core chip delivers 50 percent more performance than its quad-core predecessor while using 10 percent less electric power, according to Intel enterprise group vice president Tom Kilroy.

Electricity and cooling expenses can account for nearly half the cost of running company computer servers.

"It isn't just performance and energy efficiency but the use models," Kilroy said of the boon promised by increasingly powerful chips. "One of the major ones is virtualization."

Multi-core chips are boons to computing trends including high-definition video viewing online; businesses offering services applications on the Internet; and single servers running many "virtual" machines.

"There is a realization that we will be able to bring things to market that weren't feasible four years ago," MySpace vice president of technical operations Richard Buckingham said while discussing the new chip's potential.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Intel_rolls_out_computer_chip_with__0916200...

The Senate will likely vote
Submitted by toniD on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 12:41pm.
The Senate will likely vote Tuesday on an amendment offered by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) “that includes language touting the success of the troop buildup that began last year.”
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Reed,Please Stop Being Such A F'n Pansy !

Why is a BS Political Stunt Like that allowed to even see the light of day ?

It's like that Betrayus/MoveOn.org debacle..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/3783

Now, here, you see,
it takes all the running you can do,
to stay in the same place

hey mm what is this about a morning show?
Submitted by mhappenow on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 12:44pm.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Levin and Reed offered an alternate amendment. They are not on the same page as Lieberman.

Reed is Too Much Of A Wuss to play hardball with those Fascists..
They wouldn't even bring up BS like Lieberman's amendment if they knew they it would get laughed out of the Senate..

Remember when the Rethugs were in control ? ?
We don't have to be as Bad of Assholes as they were to the minority..

But,Reed and The Democratic Leadership Need to grow a pair within our lifetime ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

seems like all the activists are gearing up !

Melina has the info on Michael Moores new free movie!

http://www.ripcoco.com/

Come watch the trailer for the new Michael Moore movie entitled "Slacker Uprising". You will be able to download the entire movie for free on September 23rd if you sign up!

http://slackeruprising.com

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/3783#new

Arden Myrin did an impersonation of Cindy McCain on MadTv that would make one pee one's own trousers