Republicans hate

O'Reilly did not even bother to take off his hood for that one

there is no disguising that bit of lunacy

comment required

Seder: "Finally, how bat crap crazy do you have to be to think there's a secret conspiracy "to break down the white, Christian, male power structure" by simply importing low wage latino workers?!?!???"
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If it was up to me to topple the white, Christian, male power structure, I'd do it with infected golf balls.

precious Miller Lite from my nostrils.

Infected golf balls: Birdie flu.

is the white, Christian, male power problem. I suggest a mirror.

Oh, he got all'a that one!

Its in the hole!

Nobody but nobody can beat a dead horse like I can.

Another Bogey
new
Submitted by Crank Bait on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 12:22am.
Infected golf balls: Birdie flu.

A good chuckle. Thanks!

And he needs to go.

"What does "new" mean and how much time passes for it to cease to be new?"

I believe new means you haven't read it yet. A new post is one posted since the last time you looked at the thread.

It's new if it's new to you.

>>Bill O'Reilly: But do you understand what the New York Times wants, and the far-left want? They want to break down the white, Christian, male power structure, which you're a part, and so am I, and they want to bring in millions of foreign nationals to basically break down the structure that we have.

Way to go, Billy. That was supposed to be a secret from the African American, Hispanic, Jewish, and Asian Republican voters.

Oh, and your mother wants to remind you that those are your "inside your head" words.

OM bhur bhuvah svah tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi dhiyo
yo nah pracodayat.

Smokin' Banana Peels
Submitted by Crank Bait on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 12:36am.
They coulda made this easier for us simple folks.
And for the rest of my life I am gonna have to hold my tongue...
This is the sort of myth that can cause civil people to turn violent.
__________________

Crank Bait,
I can't imagine Crank "Banana Smoothie" Bait sayin' sumpin' that woulda cause any sorta of violence at Sam's Saloon. (Does it go by...Seder’s Salon and Blog now?)

(Does quoting Crank Bait break the rules? Rules are meant to be appealed, right?)

Crank Bait's Challenge:

"And for the rest of my life I am gonna have to hold my tongue..."

As Mr. Bait said,

"This is the sort of myth that can cause civil people to turn violent."

--------------------

Seriously, I like reading your posts.

p.s. In particular, I enjoy reading those serious posts by Crank Bait -- that he posts once in a blue moon!

Assimilated Press:

Washington, D.C. - The five major corporations that control most of the information management in the media are expressing remorse over their decision to help install and prop up the George W. Bush presidency. Over the course of the last year they have begun to realize that they severely miscalculated in their selection and are now worried that their ability to project themselves as serving the interests of the American public has been fatally compromised.

Unfortunately, they believe that their choices are limited and that they are now stuck with a pig in a poke. Given the urgency of the matter, these corporations have scheduled a meeting in the Bahamas which will include representatives from Exxon Mobil, Halliburton, Merck Pharmaceuticals, and Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia in which they will discuss new procedures to ensure that the next president they install meets minimal intellectual standards while still being able to faithfully follow orders without question.
Link

How's it going?Good I hope.
Alittle late nite bloggin?

A careful reading of the article...

I thought, (160,000 vs. 100,000 dollars is that all the solicitors bring in?)
like this right-wing blogger.

No, that is one person being quoted, so extrapolate times 65.

10,725,000 - 6,500,000 = 4,225,000 less.

The people really doing damage to the white, Christian, male power structure
are people like this [a very slick web site]
and this [a very sad website.].

you too mmr?
or early.. does it matter : )
doing research on a rudy Giuliani question
I expect him to be on the weekend watchdog soon.

But fortunately they covered their asses and are not in danger of losing stockholder money BECAUSE THEY OWN EVERYTHING!

edit no delete

re bill press

Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band,

yes it's THAT fox

huh? woman? king?

click the 3 books for a $ : )

shows the importance and power of accusing others First of your own failings.

They are your (neo-con) failings not the ones you accuse. It doesn't matter because the attention naturally falls on the accused.

Salon:

The U.S. government now outsources a vast portion of its spying operations to private firms -- with zero public accountability.

By Tim Shorrock

June 1, 2007 | More than five years into the global "war on terror," spying has become one of the fastest-growing private industries in the United States. The federal government relies more than ever on outsourcing for some of its most sensitive work, though it has kept details about its use of private contractors a closely guarded secret. Intelligence experts, and even the government itself, have warned of a critical lack of oversight for the booming intelligence business.

Con't

Question for Fred Thompson (re paraphrase Glenn Greenwald)

Mr. Thompson. Newsweek's Howard Fineman recently admiringly described you as "tough on defense," and youself as a "tough guy." You play a tough guy on TV, however, do you really expect the American people to believe that, when you have no military service, you were "a high-paid Washington lobbyist for both foreign and domestic interests" for over two decades and except when you were an actor in Hollywood, you've spent your entire adult life in Washington ?

Salon:

As administration lawyers scramble to find a new legal underpinning for "tough" interrogation techniques, the Senate Intelligence Committee slams a once-secret CIA program and its methods.

By Mark Benjamin
June 1, 2007 | WASHINGTON -- The Senate Intelligence Committee has signaled to the White House that an infamously abusive secret CIA program to interrogate high-level al-Qaida types may have to be scrapped, given "the damage the program does to the image of the United States abroad." It is a stinging rejection of a program that President Bush late last year called "one of the most successful intelligence efforts in American history" and comes as administration lawyers are reportedly crafting new, secret rules to govern it.

Con't

...

Radio Left:
by William D. Hartung
A few years back, when President George W. Bush described Libya’s decision to put aside its nuclear weapons program, he applauded the Qaddafi regime for abandoning its quest for “weapons of mass murder.”

When it became clear that Iran was seeking to develop its own capacity to enrich uranium, the Bush administration made veiled military threats by stating, “No options are off the table” in addressing Iran’s program.

Then after years of calling for sanctions and other “tough” measures, the administration engaged in serious negotiations with North Korea about its nuclear weapons programs.

This record of anti-proliferation activity – however uneven its application – certainly gives the impression that stopping the spread of nuclear weapons is a top administration priority. But a closer look at its policy on this issue suggests that nothing could be further from the truth.

Con't

Somehow fate seated me in the seat next to Robert Rubin at a local theater dinner in NY on Wednesday. I just wanted to share a few moments with the Seder blog.
Rubin said he didn't know what he would be doing in this election season when I mentioned the growing support Hillary was getting. He asked me what I thought of Hillary and I responded by saying that I am an Edwards supporter since the previous election. He looked surprised and said, "That won't last, he's running as a Populist." I disagreed.
I told him I was a big fan of David Sirota and he proceeded to tell me,"You should remove him from your email list." I told him that was not going to happen and that he should not be telling anyone to remove Sirota from their reading. He knew Sirota was moving from Montana and said "there were alot of people happy about that." I told him he sounded like a Republican.
Overall the conversation was very intriguing. He seemed surprised that I was discussing the secret trade deals, "they were done in the dark of night," or health care, or Casey vs. Santorum.
Rubin was not entirely comfortable with the DLC as a descriptive phrase but was totally aghast at the use of corporatist. He said, "You are making it worse." He said the division in the party "is all about trade and income distribution."
I told him I thought Krugman and Sirota were basically on the same page on trade and he said he had clipped Krugman's article and was going to reread it.
Having written off Edwards' run earlier in the evening, I found it very interesting when Rubin said,"If we get this back,(the presidency) we'll need re-education camps." I gathered for progressives. I told him I thought "camps" was a poor word choice and I preferred to go my own way.
In closing, just some things he was unaware of that really surprised me.
-Rubin did not know the phrase the Rapture Right or the definition of the Rapture.
-For a professional with his own Project, he had never heard of the Drum Major Institute.
-He didn't seem to know Keith Olbermann when I discussed Gore's interview the previous night.
-He hadn't heard of Greg Palast's book Armed Madhouse. So I am sending him a copy next week.
Overall I had fun talking to him but he only seemed progressive on healthcare issues. And interestingly, he was very excited about Obama's campaign, if I heard correctly there is an ardent free trader among his economic advisors There you have it.

going to sleep any time now
Submitted by jbenet on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 6:04am.
you too mmr?
or early.. does it matter : )
doing research on a rudy Giuliani question
I expect him to be on the weekend watchdog soon.

Did you see News Consumer post,last thread.Everything Rudy!
It looks like your not the only one with Rudy issues!Just kidding!

"NEWS CONSUMER"
Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 05/31/2007 - 4:46pm.
"NEWS CONSUMER" said...
Mobbed-Up Nyc Mayor
MOBBED-UP NYC MAYOR

Pigtown

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigtown,_Brooklyn

touch it and you're a goner.

while its always good fun to stick a sharp stick in o'liellys eye or limbaughs butt, its like shooting fish in a barrel. i think immigration has the ability to hurt all and even swing the election to the neocons. as individuals many of us share making the american dream available to all. at the same time, we all have a dark side, whether its unquantifiable fear or outright racism, whose nerve is touched by immigration.

consider that if you're older than 40 that theres a good chance your parents or your grandparents have memories of immigration or of being 1s.t generation americans. i don't know what the rules were then, but i've heard the stories about how individuals were so proud of becoming americans, that they embraced the english language as well as their native language and so on. the rules have changed. now there's fear that english won't be the oooficial language or that we will become a dual language society, that american traditions (whatever the hell those are) are being pushed aside. these older people whose lives were touched by immigration don't necessarily support whats going on today.

going back to o'idiot, he's not the real problem. the real problem is someone like lou dobbs who softly preaches hate of non-americans every day. they are taking your jobs. they are ruining your economy. they are stealing the dream. this registers at some subliminal level.

as we come up to the election next year, the republicans will use this below the surface emotion to stir up hate of a democratic candidate who supports anything short of sending 12 million people home.

bummer of a birthmark hal...

.

can you put a width attribute on your image tag so we can get the right frame back?

Tried to make comic smaller.Didn't work.
Blog signed me out,so can't edit.Shit!
But,at least I didn't lock up blog
like last time.Small wonder!
To make pix smaller,don't you just change
sizing numbers?2050to1000,or 200

I think I'll go hide for awhile!

Never would have posted comic
if I knew blog had signed me out..
Again Sorry!

I am old enough to be conflicted by this immegration issue. And I am 1st generation.

I agree with you that Dobbs is more of a problem than both O'Leily and Limbaugh but on some things I so agree with him because I experienced it.

The "thing" I agree with is the healthcare Public aid issue. At one point, because of my condition, I went to public aid to get some help and was refused. Of course a lot of this has to do with the public aid system and the numbers they use to consider who would need help. But what impressed me, after I got over being embarrassed about even being in the public aid office, was the people in the offcie.

There were several white and black young women who were there because they were single mothers and needed help with food stamps and healthcare for thier family. The rest, besides me, in the office were hipanics and East Indians and Pakistanis. The whole family was their for these Hispanic families. Many spoke no english and the Public Aid office had to have Spanish speaking people to translate.

These people were getting help. Food stamps, medicaid, help with rent, etc. I am sure that many in that office were not citizens or legal residents.

When I left, after having been turned down for the medical help I requested, I did feel that, after having paid taxes all my life and now needing a little help and was refused, and that people come here and had never paid taxes and got much help, I felt they were playing the system.

And they do. They know just what they can get. The girl that helps me, who is from India, told me that many people who come here, eventually bring their elderly parents and when they come, they collect Social Security and get medicare and medicaid.

So I do feel that things have to change in that regard.

I am not against immegration, however I do think it should be done legally. Both my parents came through Ellis Island and waited there weeks to be permitted into this country.

We do need better border control and we do need to make these people in this country already, legal residents so that they can help support themselves by paying taxes.

I think that the politicians have to address this issue. Limbaugh and O'Liely are wrong in the way they think, as is Dobbs, but there are things that do need to be addressed about these illegals.

i blew out the right hand side of the blog yesterday but found i could go back and edit so i for what its worth i used the following:

img src="xxx" width="500"

without the carrots so you can see the html.

Will be on C-Span in a bit.

This should be interesting.

i hear you. not sure where it was, but i agree with the idea that the current administration has deliberately ignored controlling immigration because it furthurs their economic goals of destroying the middle class and providing cheap labor for the corporations.

maybe the answer to public health is to send the bill to mexico, india, pakistan, whatever or apply it to the trade imbalance.

its almost like we need a new marshall plan to pull all these countrys up by their bootstraps as opposed to whats happening with the united states being pulled down.

taxes are a funny thing. i like you feel they should entitle you to something but the reality is different. i remember years ago when my wife quit work to be a full time mom. we were strapped for money and used her retirement savings only to get raped by taxes on it because we took it before reaching retirement.

if you think about it, the neocons have the weapon in their hands to achieve their desire of destroying social security. 12 million new people who haven't paid a lifetime into it can easily bankrupt the whole thing.

***

Does Turkey Have Plans to Invade Iraq?
Turkish Prime Minister Won't Talk Strategy, but Troops Have Been Deployed to Border

By TERRY McCARTHY
May 31, 2007
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Print Just when it looked like things in Iraq couldn't get worse, a new threat is emerging -- from Turkey. And it's creating a huge headache for U.S. policymakers.

Impatient at continued attacks against Turkey by the Kurdish guerilla group PKK (Kurdish Workers' Party), whose members are based mostly in northern Iraq, Turkey has moved troops and tanks close to the border with Iraq. Iraqi newspapers have expressed concerns that Turkey may be planning to cross the border in pursuit of the PKK guerrillas.

The PKK, which the United States has designated a terrorist organization, has conducted a low-level guerrilla war against Turkey since 1984.

Last week, a suicide bomber in Ankara, the capital, killed six people. The government said it was the work of the PKK. And a bomb in southeastern Turkey, where the PKK is most active, killed six Turkish soldiers.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said this week, "We want all acts of the terrorist organization to come to an end." When asked if Turkey would invade Iraq, Erdogan said, "One does not talk about whether these kinds of operations will take place or not, it would simply be carried out."

Some of Erdogan's rhetoric may be political posturing -- he faces an election in July and needs to appear tough on terrorism. But underneath the current tension is a bigger problem -- the growing autonomy of Iraq's 4 million Kurds.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3232007&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSF...

Regular C-SPAN

Washington Journal

gotta catch up on my chores before the weekend. no more bloggin this mornin.

if wado shows up encourage him to take a long bike ride...

I just spewed
Submitted by Fernando on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 12:14am.
precious Miller Lite from my nostrils.

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now that was funny. thanks cb.

ACLU files Arizona suit over TB case

same strain as the "I hope they will forgive me guy."

Daniels, 27, is under a court order and has been isolated in a jail ward at Maricopa Medical Center for 10 months, although he was not convicted or charged with any crime.

"There are cameras on his room 24 hours a day. He's subjected to strip searches. We think the county could make alternative accommodations for him while protecting the public."

"And he's at the mercy of Sheriff Joe Arpaio. [serves inmates green balogns and makes them ware pink underware] He needs as much support as possible, and the ACLU is supplying that support."
Arpaio maintains Daniels must abide by security measures. "I run a safe jail, and he's going to be treated like anyone else," Arpaio said.

Arpaio [another tough guy neo-con] said his office is considering possible criminal charges against Daniels.

wanted to share the tb

http://www.bilderberg.org/2007.htm#participant

31st May to 3rd June 2007, Istanbul

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/bilderberg-2007-agenda-and-partic...

Zoellick is also a member of the unelected policy makers and rampant globalization advocate groups the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. He is also a regular at the powerful global policy defining Bilderberg Group meetings, having attended in 1991, 2003 and 2006 and currently attending the 2007 Bilderberg meeting which begins today in Istanbul, Turkey.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17803.htm
Repudiation, Not Impeachment

By Scott Ritter

05/31/07 "Truthdig" -- -- It is a question I am faced with at every public event I participate in: What are my views on the impeachment of President Bush and others in his administration? Generally, the question is preceded by an emotional statement listing the “crimes” which Mr. Bush is accused of committing, and the questioner has already found him guilty. Whether it is the war in Iraq, conspiracy theories about 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, or any given variation of the theme of constitutional abuse of power, the one thing all of the questioners have in common (besides the desirable outcome) is their singular conviction that the president is guilty.

I have considerable sympathy for this stance. I myself have stated on more than one occasion that I believe President Bush has lied to Congress and the American people about the reasons for going to war with Iraq (i.e., the whole WMD/al-Qaida intelligence fabrication/misrepresentation fiasco). I also believe that the president’s sanctioning of warrantless wiretapping, along with a litany of other abuses of power stemming from the Patriot Act approved by Congress after Sept. 11, 2001, likewise constitutes grounds for impeachment. Several Democrats in Congress are actually discussing the possibility of impeachment of President Bush, and the irrepressible Congressman Dennis Kucinich has actually introduced articles of impeachment for Vice President Dick Cheney.

Even some Republicans are getting on board the impeachment bandwagon, although with caveats. “Any president who says ‘I don’t care’ or ‘I will not respond to what the people of this country are saying about Iraq or anything else’ or ‘I don’t care what the Congress does, I am going to proceed’—if a president really believes that, then there are ... ways to deal with that,” Sen. Chuck Hagel, a Republican from Nebraska, said of President Bush in obvious reference to impeachment.

Hagel is correct: Impeachment is the constitutional remedy for a unilateral president whose governance is an insult to traditional American democratic norms and values. However, impeachment alone is simply a measure which addresses the symptoms of a larger malaise that has stricken America. The arrogance associated with the concept of the unitary executive is prevalent throughout mainstream American political life. The passivity of the legislative branch is one byproduct of the dominance of the unitary executive. It is also an indicator that the will of the people, as expressed through their election of the people’s representatives to the Congress of the United States, no longer has the weight and bearing long associated with the American democratic experience.

continued at link

From Allen's Newsletter:

Propaganda, disinformation or the truth? You decide, but please remember ~ this is an illegal occupation, not the leading edge of Bush's self proclaimed war on terror.

Allen L Roland
http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2007/05/31.html

If I were an Iraqi, as I am an American, while a foreign troop was landed in my country, I never would lay down my arms ! Never! Never! Never! : Allen L Roland

Here is a short video message from the Iraqi resistance which is well worth listening to ;

MUST WATCH:

"We are simple people who choose principles over fear ~ once you said ' Bring it on ' and we did ~ do you have another challenge for us, Mr Bush ? "
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm

People of the world! These words come to you from those who up to the day of the invasion were struggling to survive under the sanctions imposed by the criminal regimes of the U.S. and Britain .

We are simple people who chose principles over fear.

We have suffered crimes and sanctions, which we consider the true weapons of mass destruction.

Years and years of agony and despair, while the condemned UN traded with our oil revenues in the name of world stability and peace.

Over two million innocents died waiting for a light at the end of a tunnel that only ended with the occupation of our country and the theft of our resources.

After the crimes of the administrations of the U.S and Britain in Iraq , we have chosen our future. The future of every resistance struggle ever in the history of man.

It is our duty, as well as our right, to fight back the occupying forces, which their nations will be held morally and economically responsible; for what their elected governments have destroyed and stolen from our land.

continued at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm

image tag
Submitted by dan on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 8:51am.
i blew out the right hand side of the blog yesterday but found i could go back and edit so i for what its worth i used the following:

img src="xxx" width="500"

without the carrots so you can see the html.

But,like I said earlier the blog
signed me out,somehow.So,I can't go back and edit.
I was using preview to try and get pic down
to size.Tried post.Thought no prob.I'll just edit.
But,logged out somehow.Thanks for the Code.
I tried to lower all
the numbers.Wrong. :)
There's Randi!

http://www.rosie.com/blog/2006/12/24/make-them-hear-u/

http://rawstory.com/comments/32439.html

Gore comes out against impeachment and suddenly Mr. "Inconvenient Truth" becomes....inconvenient to the Frothing-at-the-Mouth crowd!

How many Impeachers do you figure were "Gore in '08" guys hoping that Al would decide to run and knock out Hillary & Co.?

How many you figure do TODAY?

LOL!

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By Scott Ritter
Submitted by Alice on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 9:32am.

With AL GORE opposing impeachment (see above), it's got as much chance of happening as....

somebody who doesn't like Hugo Chavez being allowed to speak on Venezuelan TV!

Employers add 157,000 jobs in May

However, 12,000 jobs will disappear in June, Dell and Motorola layoffs.

when it comes to this admin!!

Zoellick likely to be approved
as World Bank chief
The Bush administration appeared on Thursday to have averted a fight with other World Bank member nations over its choice of Robert Zoellick to head the poverty-fighting agency, with his approval already widely considered a foregone conclusion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070601/pl_nm/worldbank_dc;_ylt=ApNZQpiuOLW2...

TB quarantine
raises legal questions

The case of a jet-setting tuberculosis patient might soon shift from the hospital wards to the courts. The patient, Andrew Speaker, an Atlanta personal injury attorney, could sue the federal government for being quarantined on the basis of federal regulations that some scholars see as unconstitutional.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070601/ap_on_he_me/tuberculosis_infection_l...

Oil prices rise
after US supply drop
Crude oil prices rose Friday after a U.S. government weekly fuel supply report showed an unexpected decline in crude oil stockpiles.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070601/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices;_ylt=AjHq1_kb...

how do you explain RCTV having an active license 02-til now?

Detroit expects half
of Iraqi refugees
Immigration aid workers here expect that as many as half of the nearly 7,000 Iraqi refugees who will be brought into the United States by the end of September will settle in the area.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070601/ap_on_re_us/iraqi_refugees;_ylt=AjqM...

Oh anonymous... (I'm going to call you Newman!, now)
Submitted by Alice on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 9:55am.
how do you explain RCTV having an active license 02-til now?

How do YOU explain why Venezuelan students are PROTESTING the shutting down of RCTV and "investigating" Globovision, when obviously Big Hugo has their best interests at heart and is trying to protect them from those evil counter-revolutionaries?

Perhaps they need some form of....re-education?

is so right on about Public Financing of Elections!!

-Walter Duranty

Seems to me that the majority of the college students in Venezuela are children of the opposition of Chavez since it is the wealthy that can afford to send their children to college.

I read somewhere that there would be a counter protest by the few college students that were for Chavez. Few because there are not many poor to middle class Vuenezuelans that are able to go to college.

CARACAS (AFP) - Hundreds of students marched for 182 minutes in Caracas Wednesday to demand the release of 182 people arrested this week while protesting President Hugo Chavez's decision to close an opposition TV station.

A letter was delivered to the city ombudsman's office "telling him we have 182 students under arrest simply because they want democracy, freedom of speech," student leader John Goicochea told reporters.

He said the ombudsman had told the students that a few detainees would be set free later Wednesday.

The Attorney General's office, in turn, told AFP it was seeking to prosecute some 45 detainees, including several minors.

Thousands of people have taken to the streets since last week to protest Chavez's refusal on Sunday to renew RCTV's license on grounds it was conspiring against him and had supported a brief, failed coup in 2003.

On Monday several people were injured in Caracas as police fired rubber bullets and tear gas at demonstrators.

The government later said 182 people, including 107 minors, were detained across the country during disturbances on Monday and Tuesday, and that 19 policemen were injured.

Chavez on Tuesday said the student demonstrators were being manipulated by people seeking to destabilize Venezuela, and called on Venezuelans to defend the country from "a new fascist attack."

In response, Central University of Venezuela student Carlos Julio Rojas told AFP that Wednesday's protest march was also meant to disprove Chavez' accusation.

"We want to show that we're not being manipulated by any political group," he said. "All we want is freedom."

The United States on Wednesday renewed its concern over RCTV's shutdown and the erosion of human rights it signals in Venezuela.

"We are obviously concerned ... about any actions that would be taken that would limit freedom of expression, that would limit the rights of people to gain information from a variety of sources," said State Department spokesman Tom Casey.

Top Democratic US lawmaker Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House of Representatives, issued a statement calling on Chavez to "reconsider this ill-advised decision."

"President Chavez should know that efforts to suppress the media will not only ultimately fail, but are also a detriment to one of the pillars of democracy: freedom of expression," Pelosi said.

RCTV has been broadcasting for 53 years and until its shutdown midnight Sunday was Venezuela's most popular network. It has been replaced by state-sponsored TVES.

Also, the station that was taken off had the most popular soap opera shows that the young seem to like to watch.

Why don't people look at the whole situation instead of just the sound bites.

I have been guilty of this from, time to time, myself.

Never thought of that ToniD....

and Nancy Pelosi is rich....so obviously she'd oppose it!

Good eye!

Top Bush Adviser Bartlett Resigns »

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AP | TERENCE HUNT | June 1, 2007 09:28 AM

Dan Bartlett, one of President Bush's most trusted advisers and his longest-serving aide, said Friday he is resigning to begin a career outside of government.

The move was announced on Bartlett's 36th birthday. He has been with Bush for nearly 14 years, from Bush's first campaign as governor of Texas, through two races for the White House and more than six years of a presidency marked by costly wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and an ongoing battle against terrorism.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070601/bush-aide-resignation/

As you drive in to the city of Caracas, which is surrounded by Mountains, all you see on the hillsides are tin roofed shanties. There are chickens and goats outside.

There are many poor in Venezuela. These poor have been ignored for years.

Chavez is their hope to educate their children and assimilate into the city life.

Like any other leader, Chavez isn't perfect, and needs guidance. There is oil money for this nation and it could be used to make life more equal.

Most of the poor are the Indians that were their before Spain took over the country. But they didn't have reservations with schools and they didn't have much help at all from former governments.

Have you been to Venezuela? Have you been anywhere out of the country? And if so, were you just a tourist or did you try to find out about the country you went to visit?

With a video from CNN announcing it.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/01/dan-bartlett-resigns/

Smart ass anon...
Submitted by toniD on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 10:28am.
Have you been to Venezuela? Have you been anywhere out of the country? And if so, were you just a tourist or did you try to find out about the country you went to visit?

Okay, so ....have YOU been to Iraq?

Then I guess you should shut the hell up about it, huh?

Seriously, you and Alice are the reason that "progressives" weren't trusted on national security and it took Bush's monumental SCREW-UP in Iraq to win Congress back for Democrats and change that image...atleast for Democrats, not their base.

Yeah, you read right...I think Bush screwed up and the war in Iraq is a disaster....but I also don't go around APOLOGIZING for socialist dictators repressing the Media, just because they're socialists, when, if you and Alice had ONE OUNCE of honesty, you'd admit that you'd NEVER apologize for some RIGHT-winger shutting down opposition Media in EXACTLY the same way for EXACTLY the same reasons.

You people have been pulling this crap for 70 years (since Duranty and the Soviet apologists of the 30s, to the Cuba apologists of the 60s, to the Gorbachev-philes of the 80s)....and all it's done is force the Democratic Party to try to distance itself from its nutty Fringe.

Want to learn the reason that the Party of Roosevelt, Party of Truman, Party of Kennedy became in the eyes of many Americans the "Weak On Defense" Party....look in a mirror!

Conservative columnist Peggy Noonan declares today that President Bush “has torn the conservative coalition asunder,” with consequences “for the American future.” This White House “thinks its base is stupid,” she writes, while “conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome.”

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110010148&mod=RSS_O...

because of this Venuzuela thing. That's typical.

Had you read the blog more you would have noticed that I did not approve of Chavez taking that station off. It was a bad move.

I posted that here a few days ago.

But there is more to this story. One dictator, Bush, tries to kill another ditator, Chavez. Chavez was able to escape and totally turned his venom on Bush.

Like I said before, lets get the whole story or at least most.

Both sides.

Maybe if you weren't so arrogant in your posts, ther would be more discussion and less insults. You seem not to like it when people come back at you but you instigate all the time.

So your rant in that last post is rediculous. Narrow vision.

And no, I have not been to Iraq. Turkey, Egypt and Morocco, but not Iraq.

Have you?

One dictator, Bush, tries to kill another ditator, Chavez.

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The Crazy Talk alone is worth the visit..!!!

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Not much left here, but they are fightin to keep the Crazy Talk alive...

Is today GONZO DAY...?????

hahahahahahahahahaha..!!!!!

You go girl!! :)

Cuz fuck the Democratic Party...they don't represent me....

No I wouldn't apologize, in case you haven't noticed the corporate airwaves are cluttered with right wing crap..there are no rules on them to even tell the truth...

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Star Vox...what I mean by entire govt...I mean a show that investigates Dem & Rep politicians & their ideas...coming from the view of the "little people", like me...They could also introduce new ideas, parties etc....

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Good Morning, & How cool you went to Venezuela, Toni..any photos?

Radio Left:
by William A. Collins
Read the paper
Every day?
News no longer,
Comes that way.

A professor recently informed us that the three newspapers in Nicaragua – one on the right, one on the left, and one in the mud – are all owned by the same conservative family. In Venezuela, all papers skew to the right, busily attacking Hugo Chavez. In Britain, they’re all over the place, and in the United States, they’re all no place. The only papers here that print regular serious opinions are the conservative offerings of Rupert Murdoch, Sun Myung Moon, and “The Wall Street Journal.”
Publishers, after all, have to watch what they say. They’re closely monitored by Wall Street, their own investors, big advertisers, and Alberto Gonzales, at least for the moment. And with the steep price paid for media companies nowadays, one can’t afford to alienate creditors, investors, or customers.

Con't

As of this morning the entire state of Maine is without Air america.

Air America has,without Any warning,been replaced by espn sports radio.

After 3 popular years and tens of thousands of rabid fans Nassau broadcasting decided to yank aar without any explaination.if this can happen here,it can happen to you.

please help us mainers out and call Nassau Broadcacting and tell them how disgusted and outraged you are by this horrible decision.

The local corporate suit here is Patrick Collins and he can be reached at (207-797-0780)ask the operator for his ext.

They tried to do the same thing two years ago but enough of us complained and we kept it on the air, so come on all you Sammy fans,help us keep AAR alive,Thankyou

I'm about to listen to a debate on the RCTV subject on DN, yesterday's show...

I have an open mind..I will listen carefully...

Listen

-Walter D.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 06/01/2007 - 10:40am.
Want to learn the reason that the Party of Roosevelt, Party of Truman, Party of Kennedy became in the eyes of many Americans the "Weak On Defense" Party....look in a mirror!
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I don't believe that commonly-held false "truisms" such as "the weak on defense party" have their foundations built on fact as much as their foundations are built on campaign sloganeering. In a sound-bite driven system, "ring around the collar" is repeated until many people actually believe that only one product can eliminate neckline shirt dirt.

Last I checked, a Democrat president is the only human on the planet to have authorized death by atomic detonations.

As support for my belief, I offer the righteous moral authority bestowed on Conservatism by the Moral Majority and, later, the "Religious Right". Some voters, driven by their religious zeal, actually voted for George Bush because he is "Born Again" as if, somehow, his being like them assured that his soul is stained by fewer sins than the other guy (and, presumably, that THIER souls are stained by fewer sins than the rest of the electorate's souls) and, further, that a whiter soul assures better governance.

Want more? I've heard the moniker San Fran-losi which (I guess?) is supposed to imply that all things San Francisco-an are undesirable and that nothing good can ever be found within anyone hailing from San Francisco.

I respectfully submit that such phrases generally ascribed to a group are a load of crap. I am in a minority (I think?) that believes that a "strong defense" can be achieved just like it was in WWII. That is; the resources of this nation can be shifted into a defense effort at any time and rapidly when the need is clear and broadly accepted. I believe that devoting a huge percentage of this nation's resources at all times to "a strong defense" (as if a mysteriously powerful bogeyman might arrive unexpectedly from Mars) is harmful to the nation and to the world and, just as important, is an ever-present temptation to Neocon-like nutjobs who ascribe to the notion that possessing a "strong defense" means that we should be using it as a geopolitical offense.

I am not "weak on defense". I don't think that it is possible for the U.S. to be "weak on defense". If the entire U.S. military were miraculously cut in half, across the board, from materiel to personnel, it could still be resurrected to full strength in very short order by a citizenry bent on repelling attackers.

I can make a very good argument that a weakened capability to defend ourselves has resulted from America's relentless dependence on oil to the exclusion of other energy sources...from WalMart helping to shift a huge chunk of Treasury notes to China...from the Health Care debacle that has drained resources away from other investments in our economy...

We would all do well to ignore the "ring around the collar" slogans. It makes a lot more sense for us to read the ingredients listed on the back of the soap boxes.

Let's keep it up! In less than three days, we've submitted an amazing 239,000 comments to the FCC urging them to open our airwaves for a better Internet.

The FCC deadline for public comments ends on Monday, June 4. Phone and cable giants are lobbying the FCC to hand control of these airwaves to them. We need to get more than 250,000 comments to the FCC. You can help put the public's interests before those of corporate gatekeepers by taking action:

Save Our Airwaves for a Better Internet

If used right, this public "spectrum" could revolutionize the Internet in America. Its wireless signal passes through concrete buildings and over mountains; it can connect tens of million of Americans who are being passed over by Internet providers like AT&T, Verizon and Comcast.

Broadcast television channels will soon vacate these airwaves when they go digital by 2009. These public airwaves could revolutionize the ways we connect to laptops, cell phones, PDAs, music players and other mobile Internet devices. They can deliver an open Internet into your house without the need for a telephone wire or cable modem.

Phone and cable lobbyists are pressuring the FCC to hand over this spectrum to companies like AT&T, Verizon and Comcast. Their plan is to horde this valuable public assert and stifle competitive and cheaper alternatives to their established networks.

This would be a disaster. After years of phone and cable company control over Internet access, the United States has fallen to 16th in the world in high-speed Internet rankings, with few choices and some of the highest prices for the slowest speeds in the world. We will continue this decline as long as we let AT&T, Verizon and Comcast dictate the terms of Internet access for the majority of Americans.

Help us end their stranglehold and demand a better Internet for everyone:

Act Now: Keep the New Internet Open to All

More than a quarter million comments to the FCC is an incredible accomplishment that cannot be ignored. Act now and help clear the path for a technology that will connect more Americans to a faster, more open and affordable Internet.

Thank you,

Timothy Karr
Campaign Director
Free Press
www.freepress.net
www.savetheinternet.com

http://www.savetheinternet.com/airwaves

Yes I have a few but not the greatest photos. I was on a very shakey bus. We had the cutest tour guide though. I must have asked him a gazillion questions.

I have one picture I posted before. Let me find it. It's of a memorial for Simone de Bolivar and his Generals and is on the parkway of the Costera Simone de Bolivar in Caracas.

We even took a tour up into the mountains and I saw my first 3 toe'd sloth.

Costera Simone de Bolivar, Memorial

oh right I remember now..duh..sorry Toni..I have that picture....

By: TeddySanFran

How cool was that, firedoggies? Wednesday afternoon, Connecticut Senator and presidential candidate Christopher Dodd vlogged at FireDogLake about his Amendment to this summer's Defense Authorization Bill. We had a great dialogue, thanks to your terrific questions, Dodd Squad blogger Matt Browner-Hamlin's excellent reading of our questions, and Senator Dodd's thoughtful and considered responses. For me, the video and audio worked great — for those of you with challenges, try watching the vlog again, or check out egregious's excellent transcriptions, starting about comment number 202.

Senator Dodd took a brave stance during the frustrating vote on the Supplemental Warbill, one I think got Senators Clinton and Obama to vote against the bill. Early on, he made clear he'd vote against the bill and challenged other Senators to join him. Teefs-n-Tufts Biden voted for more war, more death, more occupation. But Barack — and finally, Hillary — voted with Dodd to oppose the President. Dodd proved that you don't have to be an ex-Senator to show leadership to end BushCo's disastrous Iraq occupation.

Con't

Thanks, That was a great comparison.

Good rant too!!

AAR has been replaced by espn sports talk here in maine.

after 3 great years we are now without our progressive station

please call Nassau Broadcasting and tell them that you want AAR back

the local v.p. here is Patrick Collins (207-797-0780)

We saver AAR here once and with your help we can do it again

Call!!!!!!!

c'mom everyone,you could be next

Iraq war vets punished for free speech. “As some returning Iraq veterans join anti-war protests, free speech advocates say disciplinary cases against three outspoken former Marines could stifle dissent by those who may know the most about conditions in Iraq.” The cases involve members of the Individual Ready Reserve, “a group most servicemembers enter after active duty. Unlike regular reservists, they receive no pay and are not required to drill or attend annual training.”

UPDATE: While veterans speaking out against the war are being punished, Lt. Gen. William Boykin — who infamously described the war on terrorism as a battle between a “Christian nation” (the United States) and “Satan,” and claimed that Muslims worship an “idol” — was promoted to lead the U.S. special operations command.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/01/iraq-war-vets-punished-for-free-spee...

Defense Secretary, Top General Endorse 50-Year U.S. Presence In Iraq »
Defense Secretary Robert Gates and top U.S. commander Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno both declared yesterday that they support the “Korea model” vision of maintaining U.S. forces in Iraq for decades.

Gates told reporters in Hawaii that he is thinking of “a mutual agreement” with Iraq in which “some force of Americans…is present for a protracted period of time, but in ways that are protective of the sovereignty of the host government.” Gates said such a long-term U.S. presence would assure allies in the Middle East that the United States will not withdraw from Iraq as it did from Vietnam, “lock, stock and barrel.”

Later, Odierno, who oversees daily military operations in Iraq, said that having “a South Korean-style force there for years to come” is a “great idea.” “I think it would be very helpful to have a force here for a period of time.” Watch it:

Modeling our Iraq strategy off the U.S. experience in Korea relies on a grossly inaccurate historical comparison, and runs directly opposite Americans’ view that the U.S. should disengage from Iraq. As Fred Kaplan writes today:

To sum up, we intervened in South Korea as a response to an invasion and as part of a broad strategy to contain Communist aggression. We intervened in Iraq as the instigator of an invasion and as part of a broad strategy to expand unilateral American power. We remained in South Korea to protect a solid (if, for many years, authoritarian) government from another border incursion. We are remaining in Iraq to bolster a flimsy government and stave off a violent social implosion.

In other words, in no meaningful way are these two wars, or these two countries, remotely similar. In no way does one experience, or set of lessons, shed light on the other. In Iraq, no border divides friend from foe; no clear concept defines who is friend and foe. To say that Iraq might follow “a Korean model”–if the word model means anything–is absurd.

In Newsweek, Jonathan Alter adds:

The only two reasons to station troops in the Middle East for half a century are protecting oil supplies (reflecting a pessimistic view of energy independence) outside the normal channels of trade and diplomacy, and projecting raw military power. These are the imperial aims of an empire. During the cold war, charges of U.S. imperialism in Korea and Vietnam were false. Those wars were about superpower struggles. This time, the “I word” is not a left-wing epithet but a straightforward description of policy aims–yet another difference from those two older wars in Asia.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/01/korea-model/

In a number of carefully controlled trials, scientists have demonstrated

that if we drink 1 liter of water each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of Escherichia coli, (E. coli) the bacteria
found in feces. In other words, we are consuming 1 kilo of poop.

However, we do NOT run that risk when drinking wine (or rum, whiskey or other liquor) because alcohol has to go through a purification process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting..

Remember: Water = Poop, Wine = Health

Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, than to drink water and be full of shit!

There is no need to thank me for this valuable information: I'm doing it as a public service..*

I don't believe that commonly-held false "truisms" such as "the weak on defense party" have their foundations built on fact as much as their foundations are built on campaign sloganeering.

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Let me explain...

It's not all Democrats...

I'm a Democrat..

It is the Radical Left Wing that thinks Response is the Same as Defense...

From now until the Primary, you will hear lots of folks playin down the Defense of America..