Happy 4th of July

Fireworks, BBQ, no work, enjoy the fourth of July folks! Drive safely and enjoy the Holiday. 

Please keep in mind those people we have sent across the world and are serving because of their vow to protect the Constitution.

For me, I hope our Senators will protect that same Constitution upon their return on tuesday.
In the meantime, here's a refresher.

I suggest the Senators pay particular attention to the 4th amendment. You can help them remember the Constitution here.

What does July 4th mean to you?

Is it the 4th already?

ahhh

much better now. Thanks Sam

this year the 4th means activism....

Happy 4th Of July Everyone ! ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

the real skinny on climate change

my mom was lecturing us about this yesterday...

I covered an old coffee table with "pleather" for $30.00 yesterday. It is beautiful and is perfect for putting your feet up on.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July?

...
I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciations of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are, to him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy-a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages[T-here is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of the United States, at this very hour.

Go where you may, search where you will, roam through all the monarchies and despotisms of the Old World, travel through South America, search out every abuse, and when you have found the last, lay your facts by the side of the every day practices of this nation, and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival.

-Frederick Douglass, "The Meaning of July Fourth for the Negro" (July 5, 1852) [excerpt]

Pentagon extends tour of

Pentagon extends tour of Marines in Afghanistan
2 hours, 23 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Pentagon has extended the tour of 2,200 Marines in Afghanistan, after insisting for months the unit would come home on time.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_afghanistan_mar...

c-span is asking

What does patriotism mean to you.

Lots of winger calls today. Bush lovers! Don't know whether to laugh or throw up!

What does the 4th of July mean to you?

Picnics and Fireworks?

Ask a normal person and they will hem and haw before reaching into their minds for an answer that sounds good.

lemme see what it means to me

a long weekend, time to catch up on reading and sleeping

ok, not total apathy here, reading means political books and blogs, so it means getting worked up and angry, will that qualify as patriotic enough, for a newby american citizen (since 2004 folks! and too late to even be able to vote in that infamous election!)

Nando

just saw your comment on my blog for the first time...yea it is like therapy....I like myspace better because when you get comments you get a notification. But it is so damn slow. I have neglected my own blog terribly since being here. It is like a new relationship....

Mire

Sorry you had to become a citizen during the reign of our worst president ever. But proud to have you as a citizen!

fernando i am in the same boat as you

or should i say dilemma: louisiana is not going to go to obama no way so i have a choice here - i am flirting with the idea of voting for the republican independent, not mccain of course, but maybe ron paul or orrin hatch (is that the one or am i getting him mixed up?) just to throw some wrench in the mcain louisiana victory total?

i am of course gonna vote for the most progressive congressional candidates or anything else progressive on the nov ballot, which isn't saying much in this brackish swamp of a state, muddy waters indeed (poopy poo?)

but now it's time to get ready for a beach picnic

wonderful weather in new orleans today (sofar)

the french quarter taken over by the essence festival (lucille, are you gonna come for one of those one of these years? the brightest stars of hip hop will be there)

so time for me to hit the lake instead, i am not much for large crowds

have a good 4th! signing off for now

Nebraska Beef expands recall

Nebraska Beef expands recall to 5.3 mln lbs: USDA-Reuters

Nebraska Beef Ltd expanded its voluntary recall of material used in making ground beef to 5.3 million lbs, 10 times the initial recall, because it may contain disease-causing bacteria, the U.S. government said on Friday.

Forty illnesses have been reported in connection with ground beef subject to the recall. The recall was expanded based on investigations of the illnesses in Michigan and Ohio.

The Food Safety and Inspection Service said it concluded production practices used by Nebraska Beef, based in Omaha, Nebraska, were insufficient to control E. coli O157:H7 bacteria in beef products intended for grinding.

E. coli O157:H7 bacteria can cause bloody diarrhea, dehydration and, in severe cases, kidney failure.

Involved in the recall are about 5.3 million pounds (2.4 million kg) of the company's beef manufacturing trimmings and other products intended for use in raw ground beef produced from May 16-June 26.

The materials were processed by other companies and probably will not carry the establishment number "EST 19336" on products available to consumers.

On Monday, Nebraska Beef began a voluntary recall of 531,707 lbs of ground beef products. The beef was distributed to processors in Colorado, Nebraska and Texas and to wholesalers in Illinois, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania.

That recall followed a June 25 recall by Kroger Co, a grocery chain, of ground beef sold in Michigan and central and northwestern Ohio.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Nebraska_Beef_expands_recall_to_5.3_0703.h...

Respect the Earth, respect it's people, and cherish freedom

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If you go forth with a Fifth on the Fourth, you may not go forth on the Fifth.

Celebrate responsibly, I'd miss you.

thanks tonid

vive la.... (US?)

viva l'america

Mire

what prompted you to settle in New Orleans? I visited once and was wow'd by the architecture and culture but the humidity was impossible for me. I felt very claustrophobic.

We have no architecture or culture here in Northern Nevada but the air is dry and pristine when california is not on fire....

this is cool

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

Groundbreaking Lawsuit Accuses Big Oil of Conspiracy to Deceive Public About Climate Change

Attorney Stephen Susman helped file a groundbreaking lawsuit earlier this year on behalf of 400 Inupiat villagers in the Alaskan town of Kivalina who are being forced to relocate because of flooding caused by global warming. The suit accuses twenty oil, gas and electric companies, including ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP, ConocoPhillips and Peabody, of being responsible for emitting millions of tons of greenhouse gases causing the Arctic ice to melt

missed her

by that much....

Morning!

the 4th of July?

Is the day we celebrate our independance from a previous asshole named George.

one more to go.

watch Rachel take on these four

idiots about Obama's "flip flop" on Iraq

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

total gang bang on MSNBC

Greeting Sederville. Happy Fourth.

Is it the 4th already?
submitted by Fernando on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 9:50am.
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Thank you Fernando for flying the flag of distress. I'm feeling a little sad today. American democracy is in desperate need of rescue.

McCain was probably the bagman .....FARC leaders were paid

FARC leaders were paid millions to free hostages: Swiss radio

PARIS (Thomson Financial) - Leaders of the Colombian FARC rebel movement were paid millions of dollars to free Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt and 14 other hostages, Swiss radio said on Friday, quoting 'a reliable source'.

The 15 hostages released on Wednesday by the Colombian army 'were in reality ransomed for a high price, and the whole operation afterwards was a set-up,' the radio's French-language channel said.

Saying the United States, which had three of its citizens among those freed, was behind the deal, it put the price of the ransom at some $20 million.

The radio said its source was 'close to the events, reliable and tested many times in recent years.'

The report added said the wife of one of the hostages' guards was the go-between, having been arrested by the Colombian army. She was released to return to the guerrillas, where she persuaded her husband to change sides.

Switzerland, along with France and Spain, has been mediating with the FARC on behalf of Colombian President Alvaro Uribe............

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what does it mean to me?

I've been using the day to deep clean my house while everyone else plays.

Somehow cleaning as if scrubbing the atrocities out of my mind always seems to be the gig. Right now I'm on a break from scrubbing the cabinets, trim and walls from dirty hand prints and food remnants off the kitchen cabinets.

Its a real wonder I actually get any food on my plate with so much slung up on the walls.

mire - are you really thinking about voting for Oral Hatch for anything? Or did you mean Bob Barr? Talk about desperation :(

July 4th reality check...

"Ah, July 4th, when we honor the great white men who forged an astounding democracy upon North America. A democracy that considered black folks to be livestock (except when it came to apportioning representatives to Congress, of coruse, when they were counted as 60% human). And a ‘democracy’ that didn’t consider women - not even the white ones - as worthy of the vote. And, really, people like Adams were so terrified of the common people (the dirty fucking hippies of the time, I suppose), that they came up with the electoral college nonsense, with which wee are still saddled.

Problem is, there already was a democracy in North America - a confederation of the six Haudenosaunee nations - upon which the government of the United States of America (absent that pesky equal rights and womens’ vote stuff) would eventually be based.

Anyhow, back in 1763 or so, the Haudenosaunee had secured from the British a royal proclamation outlawing intrusions by the colonies onto Haudenosaunee land and creating formal procedures by which native nations could, if they desired, sell territory - as long as the sale was endorsed by the British government.

Needless to say, this pissed off our forefathers to no end (maybe even more than that tea tax you hear so much about). After all, this was their goddamn land to steal and kill for, and those bloody redcoats should just stay the fuck out!

So, the fine leaders of the colonies (mostly a bunch of land speculators), in the finest tradition of god fearing white men everywhere, ignored the new laws and encouraged settlement into native lands. Although they were far superior warriors (especially on their native land), the Haudenosaunee, wishing to avoid involvement in a conflict that would strain their confederacy (the Oneidas and Tuscaroras tended to side with the rebels, while the rest of the six nations sided with the British), made two treaties with the colonies in order to guarantee its neutrality.

The colonies, of course, failed to live up to their end of the treaties, and in 1777 the Haudenosaunee took up arms to thwart an illegal military venture into their territory by the “Americans” at the Battle of Oriskany.

The great white father George Washington decided to send General John Sullivan into Haudenosaunee territory in a “preemptive attack” (sound familiar?) to break the back of the Six Nations. In fact, the most significant US military venture of 1779 was not against the British, but Sullivan’s raids against the Haudenosaunee.

Sullivan and his 3,500+ troops were ordered by Washington to “lay waste all settlements around…so that country may not only be overrun but destroyed.” Sullivan launched a “scorched earth campaign” (a lot like US tactics in Vietnam), torching over 40 Haudenosaunee communities and destroying thousands of acres of crops. During the following winter of 1779-80 - among the most severe of the time - thousands of Haudenosaunee men, women and children - deprived of food and shelter - died of starvation and exposure. Their determination to carry on the fight remained, but the British eventually decided to cut their losses, and the 1783 Treaty of Paris between the US and Britain ended the war, but neglected to offer any protection to the Haudenosaunee. Veterans of the Sullivan raids snatched up huge amounts of Haudenosaunee territory, and the rest, as they say, is history

So, happy Independence Day, everybody! Well, to all us descendants of white Europeans, anyway."

pjsauter

thats a great post

Kevin ©

Anyone Else But You

I think Mire

is doing an operation chaos kind of thing with (Barr)....just to mess things up with McCain

but we just missed her by that much....

can you believe mccain is running this attack?

what does that box with a question mark in it mean?

in dan's comment?

Stop supporting your own oppression.

watch Rachel take on these four
Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 10:20am.
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Until we are willing to take a serious stand on the traitorous mainstream media, this will continue. Media Matters is not the entire answer nor is F.A.I.R. It will take cancellation of cable and satellite subscriptions- along with a boycott of products. It's the only thing corporate power understands.

what does that box with a question mark in it mean?

that dan's a dumbass using flickr for the 1st time. check it out now.

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I don't completely agree with you edna

people like Rachel and Keith are infiltrating and changing things. They are hired for marketing reasons but they do have an impact....

boycotts are of limited value....too passive to be effective.

dan

you are far from a dumbass

The script writers are busy now.

Submitted by Kevin © on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 10:30am.
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Oh you just wait until the lies about the daring rescue come. It's going to be enough bull-shit drama for an academy award.

boycotts are of limited value....too passive to be effective.

its the boycotts that are marketed with a lot of noise and fanfare that are successful. simply cancelling or not watching without letting people know is what makes it ineffective.

for example, if i find myself in a waiting room and they are playing faux noise or something like that, i will switch the channel and if somebody objects make a comment about how can anybody believe those lies...

I sent it to the Drudge Report ....

thats a great post
Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 10:34am.

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see if he posts it ... 8-)

The script writers are busy now.

i was surprised to see in the mornings paper that the rescued person was praising chavez.

===

weird, i can't find the story now, and the ones i am finding are critical of chavez.

I plan to

Highway Blog " Impeach Before Pardons" I'm putting the sign on north facing bridge over major highway and then will put up on south side if still there on Sunday when all the people return from their "patriotic" picnics and "patriotic" shopping. I'll try to get a pic. Google "Freeway Blogger" I's a patriotic thing to do, after all the freeways are still not privatized.

no Paine no gain

An Independence Day look back at the radical influence of Thomas Paine, the often-overlooked founding father whose words sparked the American Revolution. Get more videos from the American News Project here. Watch the video on Paine below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/04/thomas-paine-the-man-who_n_1108...

How can impeachement be off the table

when the Constitution is under attack?

America is under attack
her people are being drained of their children and treasure.

If not now when? Why aren't we all in the streets protesting this "holiday" with our torches and our shovels?

U.S. Sen. Jesse Helms has died

http://www.wral.com/

Conservative Sen. Jesse Helms, 86, died at 1:18 a.m. today.

freeway blogger website is really

great...

rescued person was praising chavez.

yeah that was one of the first things she did

Former Senator from South Carolina

Jesse Helms is dead at the age of 86.

I guess he was 86'd! Sorry, that was cruel but like Crank, the pun!

Jesse Helms has Died...

That must be the breath of fresh air I just felt.

Happy Independence Day all.

Betancourt praises Chávez's mediation;

Betancourt praises Chávez's mediation; calls for respect for Colombian democracy

El Universal - Ingrid Betancourt, who was held as hostage by the rebel Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces (FARC) and was rescued Wednesday, said the role of mediators Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez and his Ecuadorian counterpart Rafael Correa have played in the Colombian peace process is very important, but stressed that Colombia's democracy needed to be respected.

"Colombians elected President Álvaro Uribe, Colombians did not elect the FARC. Thus, in the same way President Chávez and President Correa came to power in their countries through democratic means, I am asking all of our brother countries in the continent to help us so that changes in Colombia may also come through democratic means," she said.

Re U.S. Sen. Jesse Helms has died

Dude! I thought he was already dead, oh that was another racist Strom Thurmond.

This "rescue" may just backfire!

Berancourt would have changed politics and policies had she become Pres in Columbia. This "rescue" just gave her a louder voice.

Garrison Keillor: Having

Garrison Keillor:

Having been called names, one looks back at one's own angry outbursts over the years, and I recall having once referred to Republicans as "hairy backed swamp developers, fundamentalist bullies, freelance racists, hobby cops, sweatshop tycoons, line jumpers, marsupial moms and aluminum siding salesmen, misanthropic frat boys, ninja dittoheads, shrieking midgets, tax cheats, cheese merchants, cat stranglers, pill pushers, nihilists in golf pants, backed-up Baptists, the grand pooh-bahs of Percodan, mouth breathers, testosterone junkies and brownshirts in pinstripes." I look at those words now, and "cat stranglers" seems excessive to me. (here)

Things you can count on the Republican leadership to screw up:

The deficit. Body armor. Medicare reform. Social Security reform. The minimum wage. Port security. The National Guard. Diplomacy. The Geneva Conventions. Fair elections. Clean elections. Intelligence. Protecting the Constitution. Protecting the Bill of Rights. Government transparency. Oversight. Separation of church and state. The middle class. The poor. Tax reform. Tax cuts. Bankruptcy law. Global warming. Disaster management. Defeating terrorists. Saying no to lobbyists. Saying yes to public opinion. Pre-war planning. Post-war planning. Competence. Civil rights. Civil liberties. Civil debate. Veterans' benefits. Hiring based on ability. Legal surveillance. Morality. Energy policy. Energy independence. End-of-life decisions among spouses. Inclusion. Learning lessons from history. Learning, period. Drug policy. Fiscal responsibility. Trusting the generals. Trusting the spooks. Trusting the experts. Basic honesty. Basic health care. Education. Creating jobs. Keeping CIA operatives' identities secret. Catching Osama. Playing nice. Playing fair. Refilling ice cube trays. Making paper airplanes. Or coffee. Tying their shoelaces. Making friends. Blowing their noses. Counting to ten five three. Sharing their toys. Telling the truth. Uniting the country. Protecting underage kids from a predatory congressman.

Happy 4th from Dennis Ya'all

"As we once again celebrate our Independence as a nation, let us celebrate freedom from fear and pledge that government 'of the people' will survive in this land that we love."
- Congressman Dennis Kucinich

Some Democratic Leaders say Impeachment is off the table.

So, let's set a new table for our nation, upon which we place the Constitution and where we demand that all those who have taken an oath to defend it ... keep their promise and protect our nation from the threat within.

Please go to kucinich.us now and sign the petition, which calls for impeachment. This is the one petition that will make a difference because I will be personally delivering it to your member of congress. Please circulate word of this petition far and wide, to all your friends and family. This is the one opportunity that we have right now to actually change events in this country.

Two hundred and thirty-two years ago, our nation was conceived in liberty. We have once again reached a moment of truth, one that Lincoln recognized at Gettysburg as to whether "this nation or any nation so conceived or so dedicated can long endure."

Through the ashes of the civil war, Lincoln prayed that "this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom ... and that government of the people, by the people, and for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

This Fourth of July, 2008, we face a different kind of war; one which is trying our souls ... a war based on lies. But with the power of truth and the power of the people we can achieve a new birth of freedom, standing up for what is good in America, insisting on the rule of law, demanding adherence to the Constitution, and supporting the impeachment of a President who lied to take us into a war against Iraq.

Be the answer to Lincoln's Prayer. Please pledge your support now to restoring the rule of law in America. As we once again celebrate Independence Day, let us celebrate freedom from fear and pledge that this government of the people will survive in this land that we love.

Religious silliness: Prayer

Religious silliness: Prayer vigils at gas stations to lower prices

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As the price of oil continues to rise, some are turning to God and prayer for an answer to their financial troubles. The Pray at the Pump Movement, founded by Rocky Twyman, has been holding prayer vigils at gas stations across the country.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200807/NAT200...

Republicans must go.

" Not all conservatives are stupid, but all stupid people are conservative." HL Menckin

Garrison Keillor:

Having been called names, one looks back at one's own angry outbursts over the years, and I recall having once referred to Republicans as "hairy backed swamp developers, fundamentalist bullies, freelance racists, hobby cops, sweatshop tycoons, line jumpers, marsupial moms and aluminum siding salesmen, misanthropic frat boys, ninja dittoheads, shrieking midgets, tax cheats, cheese merchants, cat stranglers, pill pushers, nihilists in golf pants, backed-up Baptists, the grand pooh-bahs of Percodan, mouth breathers, testosterone junkies and brownshirts in pinstripes." I look at those words now, and "cat stranglers" seems excessive to me. (here)

Things you can count on the Republican leadership to screw up:

The deficit. Body armor. Medicare reform. Social Security reform. The minimum wage. Port security. The National Guard. Diplomacy. The Geneva Conventions. Fair elections. Clean elections. Intelligence. Protecting the Constitution. Protecting the Bill of Rights. Government transparency. Oversight. Separation of church and state. The middle class. The poor. Tax reform. Tax cuts. Bankruptcy law. Global warming. Disaster management. Defeating terrorists. Saying no to lobbyists. Saying yes to public opinion. Pre-war planning. Post-war planning. Competence. Civil rights. Civil liberties. Civil debate. Veterans' benefits. Hiring based on ability. Legal surveillance. Morality. Energy policy. Energy independence. End-of-life decisions among spouses. Inclusion. Learning lessons from history. Learning, period. Drug policy. Fiscal responsibility. Trusting the generals. Trusting the spooks. Trusting the experts. Basic honesty. Basic health care. Education. Creating jobs. Keeping CIA operatives' identities secret. Catching Osama. Playing nice. Playing fair. Refilling ice cube trays. Making paper airplanes. Or coffee. Tying their shoelaces. Making friends. Blowing their noses. Counting to ten five three. Sharing their toys. Telling the truth. Uniting the country. Protecting underage kids from a predatory congressman.

restoring the rule of law in America

i thought that was only important when you were talking about clinton and sex.

Oil steady above $145 in

Oil steady above
$145 in Asia on Saudi declaration

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Oil prices remained near record highs above $145 a barrel in Asia after Saudi Arabia's oil minister suggested his country doesn't plan to boost production.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/oil_prices;_ylt=AhJrajkiKrRwLXuSCiH4wwUOr7sF

%&*-#%&*-#%&*-#

!!!

Judge James Robertson

Judge Robertson sharply rebuked the Bush administration for its position that because the several hundred Guantánamo detainees have been classified as "enemy combatants," they are not entitled to the protections normally given to prisoners of war. - NYT

Judge Roberston is also the guy who went into the memory hole after quitting the FISA courts because of what he knew about the NSA spying on American's.

HERE'S to you Judge James Robertson!

U.S. District Judge James Robertson also ruled that the law's denial of habeas corpus to the more than 12 million legal immigrants living in the United States was unconstitutional. - Seattle Times

Argentines find

Argentines find lost
'Metropolis' scenes

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Lost scenes from the sci-fi classic "Metropolis," recently discovered in the archives of a Buenos Aires museum, were shown to journalists for the first time in decades on Thursday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/argentina_metropol...

doesn't plan to boost production.

there's an interesting undercurrent in the trading world that says the saudis have been lying about how much oil reserves they have and that the bushies learned about this back when cheney had his secret energy task force.

essentially, the claim is that the saudis can't increase production because it ain't there. peak oil baby.

Sorry about the double post Blogafellows?

My hand and eye coordination is still awful.

Transgender guy gives birth

Transgender guy gives birth

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Thomas Beatie, who was born a woman but after surgery and hormone treatment lives as a man, has given birth to a girl at an Oregon hospital, People magazine reported on Thursday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080703/us_nm/transgender_birth_dc;_ylt=AnFy...

Yankee doodle, keep it up,

Yankee doodle dandy;

Mind the music and the step

Let us ignore Barack Obama and listen to his preacher when he says “God Damn America.” Those words were not meant to divide but rather to unite. The vast majority of the population can come together beneath the words “God Damn America!,” because what has the violence of the American empire done for us?? What has being the most powerful nation on earth done for your average American?? What has all this bullying of innocent people throughout the world and in our own country done for anybody??

Doodley Squat!

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/a-declaration-of-independence/

Re: %&*-#%&*-#%&*-#

Heya Alice! Hope all is well! I agree with you whole heartedly! Happy Freedom Day- or something.

Oops!

Submitted by edna ellen poe on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:17am.
My hand and eye coordination is still awful.

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So is my grammar.

the shipping company will be coming to pick up these

barrels next week to ship off to SA...so i am going to spend the day packing and sealing all 10 of them..does that make me a patriot?

Here's a nice how do ya do

You know what might make this holiday easier to take?

-Submitted by treebu on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:20am.-

TreeeeeebuLicious! :)

Lucille

Did you get that money off to your daughter to pay her Aunt?

doesn't plan to boost production.

the Saudis also have their Own Hedge funds and buy their own oil.

Did you get that money off to your daughter to pay her Aunt?

my brother called to wish little ms phoenix happy birthday this morning...(its tomorrow) and i told him to tell her i will send it to her on monday
he said he will take care of her birthday and for me not to worry...

An Open Letter to Barack Obama on Iran

Ooooops

I said Jesse was from South Carolina, I wa wrong. He's from North Carolina. Anyway, who cares.

Problem is ha had to go and die on the 4th of July!

Cya gang!

gonna work my fingers to the bone today.

love y'all!

willow was talking about futures yesterday

supposedly the big brokers and banks are the holders of the largest number of oil futures contracts. when subprime collapsed they moved over to oil as a way to maintain their return.

its just a guess, but i don't see oil coming down in price anytime soon without these brokers getting out. i doubt they could survice a second hit after the subprime.

interdependence

Declaration

http://www.willdurant.com/interdependence.htm

Will Durant expressed his reasoning for his recommendation:

Just as independence has been the motto of states and individuals since 1750, so the motto of the coming generations should be interdependence. And just as no state can now survive by its own unaided power, so no democracy can long endure without recognizing and encouraging the interdependence of the racial and religious groups composing it.

The Declaration of Interdependence was launched on March 22, 1945 at a gala event in Hollywood.

HSBC launches new Saudi indices, funds and access products

2007-12-10
News

HSBC Corporate, Investment Banking and Markets (CIBM) Global Research has launched the HSBC Saudi Equity Index. The newly created index is a benchmark for the returns generated by the Saudi equity market.

Alongside this market tracking Saudi Index, HSBC has also launched a tailored sector index, based on Saudi Petrochemical stocks called the HSBC Saudi Petrochemical Equity Index. Both indices are reviewed quarterly.

The Saudi Equity Index is comprised of 36 liquid stocks representative of the market capitalisation of the broad range of economic sectors in Saudi. The companies included reflect the breadth and diversity found in the Saudi stock market, from banks to bookstores, from petrochemicals to publishing.

Created to provide clients with a potentially high growth sector benchmark, the Petrochemical Index provides exposure via a portfolio of 11 shares with weightings representative of their market capitalisation in this sector. The Saudi economy is largely driven by oil prices and by the Petrochemical industry and this sector index includes some of the most important oil industry companies in the world such as SABIC and SAFCO.

Complementing these indices, HSBC Saudi Arabia Ltd. has launched two new open ended funds; the HSBC Saudi Equity Index Fund and the HSBC Saudi Petrochemical Equity Opportunities Fund. Both passively managed funds are aimed at institutional investors and third party distributors and represent one practical way for offshore investors to gain exposure to the Saudi equity market, which is currently closed to direct investment by non-domiciled investors.

http://www.hedgefundsreview.com/public/showPage.html?page=662273

Philly radio station refuses

Philly radio station refuses to run Democratic ad
By David Matthews
Posted: 07/03/08 02:29 PM [ET]
A Philadelphia news radio station has rejected a Democratic ad that features an impersonator of President Bush thanking GOP congressional candidates for supporting the “Big Oil” agenda.

Philadelphia KYW-AM Vice President and General Manager David Yadgaroff said his station decided not to run the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) ad because it was worried its listeners would be misled.

“As an all-news station, we were concerned that our listeners would have been misled by usage of an impersonator in the creative delivery,” Yadgaroff said in an e-mail sent to The Hill.

The ad was part of a $100,000 DCCC ad campaign in 13 different congressional districts held by Republicans. In the ad, a Bush impersonator calls the local GOP congressman, thanking him for “continuing to support the Big Oil agenda” as a member of the “Grand Oil Party.”

KYW broadcasts in Rep. Jim Gerlach’s (R-Pa.) district. The Philadelphia station is the only one known to have decided against running the ad.

The DCCC criticized the station for rejecting the ad. "The station didn't think their listeners were savvy enough to understand it [the Bush impersonator] was a parody," DCCC communications director Jennifer Crider said.

Other Republicans targeted by the DCCC include Reps. Steve Chabot (Ohio), Robin Hayes (N.C.), Virgil Goode (Va.), Patrick McHenry (N.C.), Shelley Moore Capito (W.Va.) and Jean Schmidt (Ohio).

McHenry spokesman Brock McCleary criticized the ad.

“Patrick McHenry is fighting for energy independence and lower gas prices while the liberal congressional leadership does nothing — except bankroll his liberal opponent’s smear campaign, that is,” McCleary said via e-mail.

The final airings of the weeklong ad campaign will take place on Friday, according to the DCCC.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/philly-radio-station-refuses-to-run-...

Dan

Remember your post about the AP?

When the AP takes sides
Posted July 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 am
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In March, at a conference of the nation’s newspaper editors, two of the Associated Press’ top political reporters greeted John McCain with a box of Dunkin’ Donuts. One of the reporters was careful to get McCain his favorite kind — “Oh, yes, with sprinkles!” he said — and then passed McCain a cup. “A little coffee with a little cream and a little sugar,” the AP’s Liz Sidoti said.

Shortly thereafter, at the same conference, AP Chairman Dean Singleton quizzed Barack Obama about whether he would send more troops to Afghanistan, where “Obama bin Laden is still at large.” In other words, the AP gives McCain tasty treats, and confuses Obama’s name with the 9/11 mastermind.

Since then, I can’t help but notice that the AP hasn’t exactly been neutral. A month ago, the AP ran an article about the “people who might complicate Obama’s campaign,” including Tony Rezko and Jeremiah Wright. The piece not only read like a slam job, it actually resembled an RNC oppo dump, which for all I know, it was.

Two weeks ago, the same reporter who made sure McCain had coffee to go with his donuts wrote a scathing, 900-word reprimand of Obama’s decision to bypass the public financing system in the general election. It was filled with errors of fact and judgment, and ignored the fact that McCain has illegally played fast and loose with the public-financing system this year.

And then this week, the AP’s David Espo wrote a hagiographic, 1,200-word piece, praising McCain’s record of reaching across the aisle. Reading it, one was unsure if maybe the AP had accidentally stuck a byline on a McCain campaign press release — Espo went so far as to laud McCain’s “singular brand of combative bipartisanship.”

For more than a decade, on tobacco, health care, immigration, judicial nominees, creation of a commission to investigate the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks and more, McCain has championed high-profile legislation opposed by President Bush or others in his own party.

His record of accomplishment is mixed, yet he has made his willingness to cross the political aisle a central theme in his campaign for the White House in an era when voters are plainly tired of partisan gridlock in the nation’s capital.

Wait, it gets worse.

In this midst of this sycophantic fluff piece, Espo slams Obama, too.

Obama, McCain’s Democratic rival in the race for the White House, also lists bipartisanship as a congressional credential. A recent Associated Press-Yahoo News poll showed about 40 percent of the electorate believes both men would work across party lines.
Even so, none of the examples cited by Obama’s aides, beginning with a bill to secure nuclear weapons in the former Soviet Union, placed the Illinois lawmaker at odds with the leaders of his own party or gave significant offense to outside interest groups aligned with Democrats.

Not so, McCain.

You see, if a policy maker reaches across the aisle to work with rivals on policies of national significance, it doesn’t really count as bipartisanship unless the policy maker’s party disagrees with the policy. Who came up with this rule? Apparently, the AP did.

And just to add insult to injury, the AP praises McCain’s record of bipartisanship on issues like tobacco and immigration reform, without noting that McCain completely reversed course and no longer believes in the position the AP is touting.

The Associated Press is one of the most widely read, if not the most read, sources of news in print journalism in the U.S. If it could at least pretend to be objective in the presidential campaign, I’m sure we’d all appreciate it.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16081.html

Jeb Bush to Join McCain in Mexico City

ABC News' Bret Hovell Reports: Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush will join presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain in Mexico City Thursday morning on the last day of McCain's three-day visit to Latin America.

Gov. Bush was in Mexico City on business and wanted to spend time with the candidate. He will not spend the day with Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., who has several other events today, including a media availability this afternoon.

Gov. Bush's name has been floated in Republican veepstakes chatter. On Good Morning America Wednesday, however, McCain pushed back on any talk of his vice presidential pick.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/jeb-bush-to-joi.html

here's a better example of what I saw .....Sovereign Wealth Fund

The New Evil Empire: Sovereign Wealth Funds

Sovereign Wealth Funds (SWFs) have been around for over four decades, but only recently have made it as headliners in Davos, Switzerland, the winter playground for the world's corporate, government and political leaders who meet annually to carve up the world's resources. SWFs are large pools are capital controlled by sovereign governments that invest in global markets, now worth about $3 trillion; twelve of which have been established since 2005. They are expected to grow about $1 trillion annually and may grow to over $15 trillion within the next ten years, and perhaps double that in 20 years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-harrington/the-new-evil-empire-sove_b...

What it looks like to me is the Saudis

buy their own oil on the futures market and who cares what price ... that helps drive the price up and they resell it at a higher price .... if they see they might get hit ,,, they just turn down production to keep the supply down.

Happy 4th of July Submitted

Happy 4th of July
Submitted by SEDER on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 9:25am.

What does July 4th mean to you?

It means that Jesse Helms is dead.
Oh, and food, folks and fun, yes


www.sigzone.blogspot.com

Does anyone here have an XBOX360?

just wondering. They make the best juke box ever.

are you gonna come for one of those one of these years

i would love to maybe next year...i dont think i have much vacation left after germany this year

Prayer vigils at gas stations to lower prices

Yes, because prayer has worked so well to end war, famine, catastrophic natural disasters, and so on. Besides, my guess is these idiots are the ones who still believe in Savior Bush. Since Savior Bush has a direct line to God, why don't they just ask Savior Bush to talk to God about their gas price woes?

Jeebus. That's really quite funny (in a sad and pathetic sorta way).

What was that crashing sound?

It was Senator Obama falling off his pedestal. I am a strong Obama supporter, and am working as a volunteer in the campaign. He has my vote, and will continue to benefit from my donations of money and time. But I now see Mr. Obama as far closer to Bill Clinton than the Kennedys and Kings in whose image I once thought he was fashioned.

That means that we can expect not only more disturbing changes during the campaign, but a substantial January surprise after inauguration, and to inure myself, I will not be maxing out for our candidate the way I expected. Much more of what money I can afford will be supporting liberal candidates on the assumption that we will need them to pressure the new president into making the honorable decisions that should be made on principle but apparently will need to be made through yielding to pressure.

That wasn't the deal you heard breaking, Senator, it was my romanticized idol of you fashioned out of finer stuff than it appears you're really made and enshrined in a place you don't belong.

[crossposted from Senator Obama - Please vote NO on Telcom Immunity - Get FISA Right on MyBarackObama.com]

Re: Jeb Bush to Join McCain in Mexico City

Wha??? Nooo not JB VP! ARRGGHH!

GBC

WOW! Did you know that when Roberts helped overturn the Texas Sodomy law that allows for same sex relationships to be considered legal in Texas and all other states, it was the 4th Amendment that laid the foundation of the opinions?

I bet that PBCLiberal will soon quit donating all together.

Your health insurance industry is prohibited from using your own health records against you prior to getting coverage based on your Fourth Amendment rights.

Good Joke, Weird Origin

Submitted by toniD on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:03am.
Jesse Helms is dead at the age of 86.
I guess he was 86'd!
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eighty-six or 86 tr.v. Slang., eight·y-sixed or 86·ed, eight·y-six·ing or 86·ing, eight·y-six·es or 86·es.

!.) To refuse to serve (an unwelcome customer) at a bar or restaurant.

2.)
a.) To throw out; eject.
b.) To throw away; discard.

[Perhaps after Chumley's bar and restaurant at 86 Bedford Street in Greenwich Village, New York City.]

What is Alice dealing?

Alice, thanks!!!
Submitted by gbasin on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:47am.

The vintage Watts has arrived, now that's great way to celibate the 4th. Thanks again for your generosity and kindness.

"boycotts are of limited value....too passive to be effective."

I'm not sure what you mean. What is passive about deciding where to spend your money?

Art lover dies

Poor quality video advisory Sorry if it's a repeat.

Hope we aren't treated to a week of fond remembrances for this fuck. Missing Jim Earl right now.

Prayer vigils at gas stations to lower prices

unbelievable...not good karma either....piffle

God bless ..

Getting More Miles Per Prayer

Prayer vigils at gas stations to lower prices
Submitted by GBC on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:18pm.
...why don't they just ask Savior Bush to talk to God about their gas price woes?

Jeebus. That's really quite funny (in a sad and pathetic sorta way).
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Why pray for cheaper gasoline when you could pray to be transported without needing gasoline? Religious fanatics are morons.

Let's say that you believe in an omnipotent deity and you are suffering from an illness.

If you are a moron, you pray for a pharmaceutical company to invent a drug to address your illness.

If you are not a moron, you pray to be made well. An omnipotent deity is omnipotent. There is no point in going the long way around to be granted your wish.

On the other hand, the omnipotent deity first made clay so that it could make man out of clay, so the omnipotent deity is obviously a moron.

The deity and its followers deserve one another.

Still as URGENT as last year - probably more urgent

Don't let them grind our conversations to a halt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt0XUocViE

Missing Jim Earl right now

In 2007, Jim also became a staff writer for "TalkShow with Spike Feresten" on Fox TV

FOX?

James Yee, Guantanamo Bay, and illegal political arrests.


James Yee spoke passionately about his experience of being a Muslim Chaplain at Guantanamo Bay detention camp where he worked to address the religious needs of the U.S. military staff and over 600 prisoners. He shared with the audience his observations about what he characterized as inappropriate and unacceptable use of religion as a weapon against the Muslim detainees. Yee called for more education and training so that Americans—both soldiers and civilians—will understand the basic tenets of Islam as a non-violent religion.

He also briefly retold his own story of being unjustly arrested and held in solitary confinement for 76 days in 2003. He was accused of spying, espionage and aiding prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp but was subsequently exonerated of all charges, given an honorable discharge and commended for his service.
VIDEO LINK 88 min. Date: March 20, 2008


"Far Left Wing Extremists" my ass. What is extreme about expecting your government to uphold it's own laws?

Neither the King nor the President

can lock up people on their own say so!

Dr. Strangelove's Hand

Oops!
Submitted by edna ellen poe on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:20am.
Submitted by edna ellen poe on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:17am.
My hand and eye coordination is still awful.
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So is my grammar.
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If you are referring to subject/predicate number agreement, I believe that there is only one coordination in your sentence which is of the hand-eye variety.

The error is in your subject modifier. It is not hand coordination and eye coordination that you cite as problematic. It is hand-eye coordination, which is a single entity denoting the ability of the hands to function in concert with the visual information supplied by the eyes.

I hope your hand-eye coordination improves soon. In the meantime, don't attempt to pick your nose or rub your eye. And practice your Dr. Strangelove accent.

yes fernando i meant bob barr always get these

two assholes mixed up- i meant it as a detraction from the unavoidable mcain takeover of louisiana, yeah desperation, you rite...and cleaning the house! talk about a good idea, can you come do mine too, fernando? really really needs a good scrub

Jesse Helms, you rat bastard, burn in hell.

Please dear God, let there really be a hell. Because if there really IS a hell then Jesse Helms is already consumed by it's lowest depths. He's wailing for eternity with his blood brothers; Adolf, Mao, Stalin and the rest of the worst of the subset of human beings who have crossed from mere mortal to eternal evil. Satanic. Jesse joins his kin, Strom Thurmond, Bull Connor and a host of other vicious racist fucks who have taken it upon themselves to very nearly ruin the core principle that this country was founded upon: equality.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/4/11388/55738/621/546543

mire do you sometimes watch Nigella

on the cooking channel? I LOVE HER...she cooks and tastes everything with her fingers...very unlady like

am watching her now
grover is gone out with the girls..a nice chance for me to sort these barrels out

Fox TV

The Simpsons
In Living Color
The Tracey Ullman Show
The X-Files
Beverly Hills 90210
Melrose Place
Party of Five.
American Dad
Arrested Development
Family Guy,
Married...With Children
Futurama
24
Prison Break
King of the Hill
That '70s Show
The Bernie Mac Show
Malcolm in the Middle
The O.C.
House
Bones

mhappenow what made me choose louisiana

the humidity doesn't bother me at all, i like it - i was in massachussets and upstate new york for years before coming south, i did not like the long winters and the snow, i guess i am more of a mediterranean type and found a little of that here in the architecture (spanish), climate and overall people attitudes, not to say it's the same but felt a little less foreign here than in other states like new england and ny though they were more progressive politically and socially i liked the north better

what can i say i have been here so long now it's as if i was born or reborn here

Liberty

no lucille, i don't know nigella

i like nutella though :)

lucille i thought about you and danger this morning at the beach, there was a mexican family with a bunch of kids and they had 4 (or was it five) little mutts, little dogs, mixed chihuaha and poodles, one was so tiny could fit in one hand, they had ribbons on the head and they were so cute

Basic Skinnerian Precepts

you guys are a bunch of dirty old
Submitted by mhappenow on Thu, 07/03/2008 - 10:44pm.
men....petty coats, pleated skirts, bobby socks...these are really such trite male fantasies...women can do much better...
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1.) If I am expected to not associate particular articles of clothing with lust then they shouldn't have dressed every female that I encountered in an identical school uniform throughout my formative years (except for the nuns who, incidentally, were also wearing uniforms).

2.) I suspect that women had more than a small amount of input regarding Catholic girls' uniforms.

foreign here than in other states like new england and ny

you kidding me right? NEW YORK? where the united nations flags fly?

>>these are really such

>>these are really such trite male fantasies...women can do much better...

I'd like to see one try!

they had ribbons on the head and they were so cute

you know danger is a BOY right? no ribbons for him....(for now at least)

What John McCain didn't learn in Vietnam

In spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the former POW insists we could have won. No wonder he talks of occupying Iraq for a century.

By Joe Conason

. But listening to him now and over the past decade or so, he also seems not to have learned why that war itself was a tragic mistake -- and why we needed to leave Vietnam long before we did.

Indeed, what is most striking about McCain's attitude toward Vietnam is his insistence that we could have won -- that we should have won -- with more bombs and more casualties
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/07/04/mcain_vietnam/

boycotts of no value

What is passive about deciding where to spend your money?

dada, i agree that in most cases they are not effective and a waste of time - no big corporation cares about YOUR money, if you don't buy their stuff someone else will, drop in the bucket for them, most of them monopolies anyway and sell necessities that cannot be boycotted

Submitted by zeek on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 1:15pm

nothing to do with rupert?
or is it like al jezeera english and al jezeera muslim?

Other patriotic hippies?

>>trite male fantasies

>>trite male fantasies

I suppose you'd consider my fantasy of getting to second base with Betty or Veronica in the backseat of Archie's jalopy in the parking lot of Riverdale High trite as well?

nice come back on the gas prayer vigil crank

very funny and of course correct, very moronic deity and worshippers both

Jughead Speaks

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 1:28pm.
>>trite male fantasies

I suppose you'd consider my fantasy of getting to second base with Betty or Veronica in the back of Archie's jalopy in the parking lot of Riverdale High trite as well?

Foxy

Definitely Rupert but it is not Fox News.

Harry Shearer, who beats the crap out of Seder and Maron IMHO, has worked for Fox on the Simpsons from the beginning. Hell, they even take shots at Fox on the show.

It's part of the entertainment industry and they do as much good stuff as the rest (which may not be saying much). A job is a job and if Sam or Marc had a shot at a Fox show they would probably do it in a flash.

and when I said, "I'd like

and when I said, "I'd like to see one try," I was serious.

I would like to see one try. One or more. The more the better.

the more the better the sooner the better.

preferably with links to video...

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY, Lovers of Freedom chez Seder!

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
from Usurper George is very much like the declaration of independence of the colonists against that old crazy King George --

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

The history of the present King ... is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. ...

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice...

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. ...

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power...

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: ...

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences...

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation...

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

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James Yee, Guantanamo Bay, and illegal political arrests.

did anyone hear that story? I still have chills going down my back.

This probably also got done recently

but you folks got so chit chatty I can't catch up

Obama now against a woman's right to choose...

So much for Obama being the agent of positive change.

Tucked away near the BOTTOM of page A4 of my morning paper is a little article of six paragraphs headlined: Obama's position on late-term abortions.

During the primary Obama was for a woman having a right over her own body and health and future. Now that he's the nominee apparent, he says women are not and instead women's bodies must be controlled by men in legislatures and men in robes on courts.

Obama is duplicitous and supports the authoritarian patriarchy afterall. Egad, what a waste of all our hope.

We can still write in Edwards

The World Needs More SEDER!!!

>>Obama is duplicitous and

>>Obama is duplicitous and supports the authoritarian patriarchy afterall.

well, if you want to take your chances with president McCain, that's your business.

>>We can still write in

>>We can still write in Edwards

Yes. It'll be just like voting for Nader!

nora on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 1:51pm.

he actually said that during the compassion forum in the Primaries. The only real reason the last attempt to overturn late term abortions didn't pass last year is because it didn't protect the woman even in the case of risk of death to the mother.

Even in those cases, the Republicans were willing to deny late term abortions. Obama has always said he would support that legislation if they took into regard the health of the mother.

How Bush 'freed' the hostages in Columbia...

He picked upthe phone and called his co-thugs and said, "You can let them go now."

John Edwards to debate Karl

John Edwards to debate Karl Rove in Buffalo.
The Buffalo News reports that former Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards will debate Karl Rove on Sept. 26 on the campus of the University of Buffalo as part of the school’s Distinguished Speakers Series. In the midst of the U.S. attorney scandal, Edwards called on President Bush to “fire Karl Rove.” When Rove announced he was resigning from the White House, Edwards released a statement that simply read “Goodbye, good riddance.”

Update
Paul Krugman writes today of "Karl Rove's Third Term."

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/04/john-edwards-to-debate-karl-rove-in-...

Former Sen. Jesse Helms

Former Sen. Jesse Helms passes away.Filed Under: Congress
By Faiz at 11:11 am Former Sen. Jesse Helms passes away.
Jesse Helms, a North Carolina Republican known as “Senator No,” died today at the age of 86. Helms left the Senate in 2003 after serving five terms. The Heritage Foundation credits Helms with establishing “the conservative movement and became a powerful voice for free markets and free people.” During his political career, Helms “became a symbol of a particular brand of uncompromising, racially tinged social conservatism.” In his 1990 campaign for the Senate, Helms defeated the former African-American mayor of Charlotte, Harvey Gantt, with the help of this ad that preyed on people’s fears about affirmative action:

Video at link

“It dealt with people’s worst fears,” Gantt later said of the ad. “In one sense, we thought the ad was political genius. In the other sense, we couldn’t believe that someone in 1990 would run an ad like that.”

UPDATE: Fox News phoned former Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) for his reaction to Helms’ passing. “He had a philosophy, had principles he believed in, and he stood and fought for them,” Lott said, adding that he admired that Helms accomplished his work without being “mean-spirited and disrespectful.” Lott added:

Senator Helms did it by sometimes supporting things that surprised people. But if you looked at it, if you looked at his faith and principles he believed in, it made sense.

Watch it: At link

UPDATE II: Steve Benen highlights David Broder’s analysis of Helms’ legacy.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/04/former-sen-jesse-helms-passes-away/

Stop hating on Barack, and celebrate.

The death of Helms is just about the best birthday present the United States could wish for on July 4. Free at last — of Jesse Helms.

While the networks and most of the press will soft-pedal his virulent racism and reckless disregard for the First Amendment in his hounding of artists, foreigners and many others, Helms stayed his divisive course until the bitter end — at least until the end of his public career.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/bushbeat/archives/2008/07/jesse_helms_fin....

i am almost done now but am starving had nothing to eat

the whole day..think i will go to the "grill" down the road to eat---the family is back

Hey, Nora

Not that I don't believe you but thanks for the link so we can see for ourselves.

Purity cool how this blog has turned on Obama so suddenly.

I'm withholding my opinion of Obama

just for awhile. It's only my feeling, and I could be very wrong or very naieve, but I still feel he is gaming the repubs and what the MSM call independents.

Don't ask me why I feel this way, I just feel he is trying to beat them at their own game.

I preface this with saying that I could be very wrong and he could be playing us.

It's just my feeling.

Late-term abortion

nora on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 1:51pm.
Submitted by Fernando on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 2:01pm.
he actually said that during the compassion forum in the Primaries. The only real reason the last attempt to overturn late term abortions didn't pass last year is because it didn't protect the woman even in the case of risk of death to the mother.

Even in those cases, the Republicans were willing to deny late term abortions. Obama has always said he would support that legislation if they took into regard the health of the mother.

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If my doctor says my pregnancy can't come to term without harming me or the child or whatever, why do the men in suits and robes have to be there with us deciding what the medical solution is going to be FOR ME??? Obama still wants to be one of those men in the room telling me and my doctor what our choices are in such a medical emergency.

Thanks for the information, Fernando.

Can't find a link for this tiny article, so will transcribe it here:

"Obama's position on late-term abortions

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says mental distress should not qualify for late-term abortions, a key distinction not embraced by many supporters of abortion rights.

In an interview this week with Relevant, a Christian magazine, Obama said prohibitions on late-term abortions must contain "a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother."

He added: "Now, I don't think that 'mental distress' qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real significant problems to the mother carrying the child to term."

Last year, after the Supreme Court upheld a federal ban on late-term abortions, Obama said he strongly disagreed with the ruling because it "dramatically departs from previous precedents safeguarding the health of pregnant women." [Note Obama does not refer to reproductive rights, but only acceptable level of his definition of 'health'.]

The health care exception is crucial to abortion rights advocates and is considered a legal loophole by abortion opponents. By limiting the health exception to a serious physical issue, Obama set himself apart from other abortion rights proponents.

The official position of NARAL Pro-Choice America, the abortion rights group that endorsed Obama in May, states: "A health exceptiom must also account for the mental health problems that may occur in pregnancy. Severe fetal anomalies, for example, can exact a tremendous emotional toll on a pregnant woman and her family."

[End transcription]

Fernando, this is a real downer. Sorry, can't figure out what he can possibly be thinking or who's advice he is following. All I can figure is that their focus groups and polls indicate women are so ignorant/apathetic these days that women cannot be approached/depended on as a voting block and so he is going for the Christianist right instead. I'm disgusted by the man.

PLUS -- WHAT IS NOW THE LITMUS TEST FOR OBAMA'S SUPREME COURT NOMINEES!!!?? ARRGGHH!!!

I agree, tD

I think he is getting a lot of this positioning crap out of the way now so the real campaign come August will have a lot of the repug 'ammo' defused and old news.

I am pretty sure he has folks writing the playbook they are expecting to be run against him so they can avoid late campaign surprises by countering now.

Happy NOT Louis Armstrong's Birthday anymore!!!

Louis Armstrong often stated in public interviews that he was born on July 4, 1900, a date that has been noted in many biographies. Although he died in 1971, it wasn't until the mid-1980s that his true birth date of August 4, 1901 was discovered through the examination of baptismal records.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Y6EMMhDCGo

Thanks, Nora

Kucinich's July 4th message: Help me restore 'rule of law in Ame

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) has been at the forefront of the attempt to push for the impeachment of President George W. Bush and last month presented 35 articles of impeachment to Congress.

Now Kucinich has released an Independence Day message which invokes the words of Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address to urge support for impeachment and the restoration of the rule of law.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Kucinich_calls_for_new_birth_of_0704.html

The U.S. Is Drowning in Pretend Patriotism

By Robert Scheer

So, take that American flag off your lapel and replace it with a button bearing the Exxon or Chevron logo. C'mon, Dick Cheney and Condi Rice, be straight about what it is you are really pushing here. 'Fess up -- it's not the good old USA as represented by the sucker taxpayers conned by your patriotic blather. No sirree, what you would have Americans paying homage to is the majesty of the big multinational corporations that exploit American military power to rule the world.

But recognize that you have shamed the legacy of our first president. George Washington, who distinguished the promise of the new world from the corruptions of the old by shunning imperial conquest
http://www.alternet.org/story/90414/?ses=e61aae2403179e4d73703927dd34794...

Here's a link on Obama and late-term abortion back-stabbing

http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obama_abortion/2008/07/03/109824.html

NEWSMAX

[excerpt]

The 1973 landmark abortion case, Roe v. Wade, established a right to an abortion, and a concurrent case, Doe v. Bolton, established that medical judgments about the need for an abortion could include physical, emotional and psychological health factors.

[end excerpt]

So Obama is opening Doe v. Bolton for rollback and the making of abortion even more restrictive. On the bodies of women he is making a political compromise with the Christianists. (As if anything less than total authoritarian rule over women's bodies is enough for this group; Obama is unrealistic if he thinks they want or will be satisfied with 'compromise'.)

Quite an Obama statement lately:

o refined position on Iraq
o more bucks for faith-based intiative weakening separation of church and state
o reversed earlier position on handgun ban in D.C.
o now abortion

I feel dizzy.

I'll trust O'Bama with SCOTUS nominees

a bit more than a man who calls his sugar mama wife a trollop and a cunt in public.

Hell's Fiery Furnace set for nuclear today.

Because Jesse Helms is on his way down.

Really dressed-for-success the corporate way.

The U.S. Is Drowning in Pretend Patriotism
Submitted by ghettodefender on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 2:43pm.
By Robert Scheer

http://www.alternet.org/story/90414/?ses=e61aae2403179e4d73703927dd34794...

» ================

No more of this non-descript male attire, corporate shirt/tie/suit stuff.

Our politicians should have to dress like race car drivers -- covered in the logos of the special interests and corporations who are paying their way....

TV viewers' average age hits 50 -(have you already done this one

The broadcast networks have grown older than ever -- if they were a person, they wouldn't even be a part of TV's target demo anymore.
According to a study released by Magna Global's Steve Sternberg, the five broadcast nets' average live median age (in other words, not including delayed DVR viewing) was 50 last season. That's the oldest ever since Sternberg started analyzing median age more than a decade ago -- and the first time the nets' median age was outside of the vaunted 18-49 demo.

Fueling the graying of the networks: the rapid aging of ABC, NBC and Fox. The three nets continue to grow older, while CBS -- the oldest-skewing network -- has remained fairly steady.

"The median ages of the broadcast networks keep rising, as traditional television is no longer necessarily the first screen for the younger set," Sternberg wrote.

For the just-completed 2007-08 TV season, CBS was oldest in live viewing with a median age of 54. ABC clocked in at 50, followed by NBC (49), Fox (44), CW (34) and Univision (34).

When live-plus-7 DVR viewing is factored in, the nets (except CW and Univision) drop by a year -- which still reps the oldest median age ever for the nets.

Sternberg notes that Fox and CW maintain median ages that are closer to the actual age of the population. The median age for U.S. households is 38.

Among ad-supported cable nets, the news nets (along with older-skewing Hallmark Channel, Golf Channel and GSN's daytime sked) sport the most gray, with Fox News Channel's daytime and primetime skeds the absolute oldest, clocking in with a median age above 65. Youngest nets are the daytime skeds for Noggin and Nickelodeon, with a median age under 10.

At ABC, youngest series was "Supernanny" (with a median age of 41), while oldest was "Women's Murder Club" (57). At CBS, youngest was "How I Met Your Mother," "Kid Nation" and the Tuesday edition of "Big Brother," tied at 45; oldest was "60 Minutes" (60). NBC's youngest show was "Scrubs" (34), and oldest was "Monk" (58).

At Fox, the youngest shows were "American Dad" and "Family Guy" (29), while the oldest was "Canterbury's Law" (55). At CW, "One Tree Hill" was youngest (26), while "Life Is Wild" was oldest (45).

Among latenight gabbers, "Tonight Show With Jay Leno" is oldest, with a median age of 54, followed by "Late Show With David Letterman" at 53. Interestingly, "Nightline" -- which should conceivably be older than those talkers, is younger, at 52. ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel Live," meanwhile, passed the 18-49 threshold for the first time, clocking in with a median of 50. "Late Night With Conan O'Brien" is getting closer at 46.

Nora

News Max?

I don't believe a word they print!

CHEER UP, and be happy for a day...

YOU BUNCHA MOPES!

Late-term abortion nightmares

Would you like to be a wife of a returned Iraq Invasion Vet who's baby is deformed because of the father's exposure to depleted uranium? Why should families be forced to sacrifice their health and lives and suffer for the decisions of the Decider and his War Profiteering Crony Death Cultists?

>>News Max? >>I don't

>>News Max?

>>I don't believe a word they print!

Yes. When you consider how many trolls used it to source their wingnut clams...

What? Helms went tits up?


No cause of death announced. I haven't had anything but music on so I appreciate you folks letting me know.

My money is on him falling into a heap of salt and disolving. They won't be able to do much of an autopsy with that remaining goo.

New Max = Murdock!

They got a hold of my gmail email account. I put them on my spam list and they are still sending at least 20 emails a day that goes to spam that I have to delete.

Nora, please be careful of your sources. You have to even investigate the sources.

Here is some sickening American horse shit.

“America lost a great public servant and true patriot today,” White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said few senators could match Helms’ reputation.

“Today we lost a Senator whose stature in Congress had few equals. Senator Jesse Helms was a leading voice and courageous champion for the many causes he believed in,” McConnell said in a statement.

Someone here told me to draw an X on my knee,

maybe I will....

Surgeon operates on patient's wrong side
Posted by Karen Weintraub July 3, 2008 04:01 PM
By Stephen Smith, Globe Staff

An experienced surgeon at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center operated on the wrong side of a patient this week, a serious medical mistake disclosed in a memo that hospital administrators sent to staff members today via e-mail.

State authorities are investigating the errant surgery, which happened Monday during an elective operation. A hospital administrator declined to provide specifics about the operation but said it did not involve removal of organs and did not cause permanent damage to the patient, described as middle-aged.

The mistake happened at a time when hospitals, healthcare regulators, and insurance companies are devoting unprecedented attention and resources to combatting medical errors. Last month, the state said it would stop reimbursing hospitals and doctors for medical costs associated with mistakes. Figures from the Department of Public Health show that in the first five months of the year, hospitals and doctors statewide have reported five wrong-sided surgeries.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/blog/2008/07/surgeon_operate.html

stature in Congress had few equals

You rarely find this in the halls of Congress:

Never heard of them, just the first one that popped up on Google

Nora
Submitted by toniD on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 2:52pm.
News Max?

I don't believe a word they print!

===============

Sorry.

But they picked up and ran the AP version.

Red Mollusk

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 2:58pm.
...wingnut clams
--------------

courageous champion for the many causes

Isn't that what they said about Ivan the Terrible too?

>>But they picked up and ran

>>But they picked up and ran the AP version.

and they never have an agenda or get things wrong. I wonder if the AP is considered part of the MSM? ;)

Two Monkeys in a bush.

Submitted by Regnad Kcin on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 3:08pm.
------

You know Helms is very similar in character to Pat Buchanan. They both are pathological in their ideology.
And for two men that never had children, they sure love to tell people how to run their lives.

I think the true source of their obsession really lie in the back- and- the very deep closet.

Give Me Liberty!

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patric Henry 1775


Charlie Chaplin Speaks

second base with Betty or Veronica

that sounds pretty good Crank...where is the rubber and whips!

Jesse Helms cause of death---he was fucking 86!

listening to blueroots...great music...cooking for the famdamly....happy day today..cooler and overcast with a nice breeze..thanks mb for the ambience...

shit

shit squared....

The Obama abortion story I transcribed above

came from my morning paper without source clarified. But it seems to be a condensed version of the Associated Press story run at newsmax.

Help me out...how do you guys know so much about the 'sites? Where does it say something is Murdock's? I'm in awe of you guys...

Yes toniD, you should mark your knee...

Back in the 70's I remember a story about a diabetic who had to have a leg amputated. The surgeon took the wrong leg and when discovering the error then took the one that should have been removed. The patient recovered and sued but lost in court. The judge said he didn't have a leg to stand on.

___
bluerootsradio
rim shot!

Edna

Thank goodness neither one had children!! Too bad it doesn't happen to more of the rethugs!

Need Two Good Legs To Tell Amputee Joke

Submitted by maggiesboy on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 3:30pm.
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It's a good thing that you are out of reach. I know a guy who was beset by an angry mob after telling that joke.

I have the scars to prove it.

All hail Code Pink

July 4, 2008

Protesters disrupt Bush's July 4th address at Monticello

President Bush delivered a July 4th address before a naturalization ceremony for new citizens at Thomas Jefferson's home of Monticello that was repeatedly interrupted by protesters who called out "war criminal" and "impeach Bush."

According to news accounts, "shouts from protesters were heard during Bush's remarks," while a transcript notes repeated occurrences all through the speech of "Audience disturbance," "Audience interruption," and "Audience interruption continues."

con''t

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Protesters_disrupt_Bushs_July_4th_address_...

see video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jRj-pWbWJo&eurl=http://www.afterdownings...

Nora

just google the company itself.

The AP lately is also under suspition of being biased. Dan noticed and I found another article on it. It's been a long time suspicion that the AP is biased.

Quote from the Relevant magazine link -- Obama on abstinence

From zeek' link

http://relevantmagazine.com/life_article.php?id=7591

[excerpt]

Strang: You’ve said you’re personally against abortion and would like to see a reduction in the number of abortions under your administration. So, as president, how would do you propose accomplishing that?

Obama: I think we know that abortions rise when unwanted pregnancies rise. So, if we are continuing what has been a promising trend in the reduction of teen pregnancies, through education and abstinence education giving good information to teenagers. That is important—emphasizing the sacredness of sexual behavior to our children. I think that’s something that we can encourage. I think encouraging adoptions in a significant way. I think the proper role of government. So there are ways that we can make a difference, and those are going to be things I focus on when I am president.

[end excerpt]

Obama's for abstinence so-called education? Amazing.

Just incase you haven't heard....

Sam will be filling in for Mike Malloy

This coming Tues. thru Fri.

Per Malloy's blog.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Thanks, toniD

I'll do that.

nora on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 3:44pm.

You are taking that a bit out of context. He ends that speech, at least every time I heard it saying that although abstinence education is important that is just one way to bring down abortions. Then he goes into contraception and sex education and all of the other available options including the woman's right to choose. He finishes by saying that too often the choice is delayed out of convenience to the third term and spoke about how wrong that is for both the mother and the fetus.

I know I told my daughter that casual sex was a mistake, especially for young people who have so many options to pick from. I encouraged her to abstain and I think that is a good thing to tell young people who see casual sex on the tv every 15 seconds.

AP is crooked

Submitted by toned on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 3:PM.
----

When the AP gave McCain the donuts, I saw that conference on Cspan. When it was Obama's turn to address the reporters, you should have seen the look on their faces. It appeared as though they smelled something foul. They were not happy with Obama. For one thing, most appeared to be well over 50. And of course, exclusively white males. Some nerve they've got, you know. After all, they have ill-served the American public for 30 years.

But abstinence only education

doesn't work.

And it endangers kids because it won't give them real biological/reproductive education and information on safe sex.

Of course we must advise our children to be responsible. And we do that by talking about reality and modeling responsibility for them.

Speaking of responsibility, should those who dole out our tax dollars be responsible to spend those monies on responsible educational programs? Does abstinence only fit that 'responsible' test?

From the Guardian UK, the truth....

Obituary: Jesse Helms

Senator Jesse Helms, member of the US Senate's foreign relations committee for two decades and its chairman from 1995 to 2001, has died at the age of 86. To echo this newspaper's memorable comment on the death of William Randolph Hearst, it is hard even now to think of him with charity. From his earliest years, Helms's attitudes recalled those of an earlier southern bigot, Theodore Bilbo of Mississippi, who so outraged his Senate colleagues, that they eventually refused even to let him take his seat.

There was never a comparable risk for Helms, who maintained an old-world courtesy in his personal contacts. But that was only on the surface. He became one of the most powerful and baleful influences on American foreign policy, repeatedly preventing his country paying its UN contributions, voting against virtually all arms control measures, opposing international aid programmes as "pouring money down foreign rat holes", and avidly supporting military juntas in Latin America and minority white regimes in Southern Africa.

In domestic politics he denounced the 1964 Civil Rights Act as "the single most dangerous piece of legislation ever introduced in the Congress", voted against a supreme court justice because she was "likely to uphold the homosexual agenda", acted for years as spokesman for the large tobacco companies, was reprimanded by the justice department and the federal election commission for electoral malpractice, and compiled a dismal personal record as a slum landlord.

The irony was that he was often seen as a relative moderate in his home state of North Carolina. His views sprang directly from his background as the son of the police chief in the small town of Monroe. Even before the Depression, life there was a constant struggle. It produced generations of deeply conservative poor whites, steeped in jingoistic patriotism and fundamentalist religion, who regarded the surrounding black population as barely part of the human race.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/04/usa?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews

tD and Nora

toniD,

I think I have been one who suggested you put a bullseye on the target knee.

You might want to listen to this

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91945517

Nora, sorry about getting you into the NewsMax jam. The link was just a direct AP cut/paste so I had no problem with it. No one can know everything.

Glad you actually noticed the Relevance link which I thought added a little more substance to the story.

It's a tough blog, a lot of self-righteous assholiness. Not much tolerance for the less than all-knowing. More puntification and attacking than exchanging and conversing and understanding at times but there are some good folks and lots of good info at times.

Maybe Superglue Your Driver's License To Your Forehead

Submitted by zeek on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 4:10pm.
toniD,

I think I have been one who suggested you put a bullseye on the target knee.
-----------
Use a Sharpie to include your name, address and Social Security number. (You wouldn't want them to do a surgical procedure on the correct knee for the wrong patient.)

McCain's Lobbyist

McCain's Lobbyist Universe
There's been a lot of talk in the last few weeks and months about John McCain's ties to lobbyists. We decided to do a little digging to bring you a working guide to the presidential hopeful's staff's connections. Meet the Gang!

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/john_mccains_lobbyist_...

sexual abstinence

works much better when you don't discourage sexual play and just avoiding intercourse. I give lectures on this and encourage my young clients to have lots of fun but just avoid the old in and out....It is the boy that wants the intercourse and it takes a long time for most girls to enjoy it. Better to learn how your own body works without the risk involved with intercourse.

Nora - Obama isn't talking

abstinence only education. He never says that. Not once.

Senator Obama has back peddled on a couple of issues only. I support his "flip-flop" on public financing under current rules. I personally don't think it's a man's right to tell a woman anything about her body but I think these things should be decided by the second trimester or even earlier if possible. My only objection to late term abortions is the health of the mother. Assuming the health of the mother is not an issue, where is the responsibility of the mother to take control of events early?

mhappe

Easy for you to say with gbasin up there celibating with the Watts book.

When the AP takes

When the AP takes sides
Posted July 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 am
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In March, at a conference of the nation’s newspaper editors, two of the Associated Press’ top political reporters greeted John McCain with a box of Dunkin’ Donuts. One of the reporters was careful to get McCain his favorite kind — “Oh, yes, with sprinkles!” he said — and then passed McCain a cup. “A little coffee with a little cream and a little sugar,” the AP’s Liz Sidoti said.

Shortly thereafter, at the same conference, AP Chairman Dean Singleton quizzed Barack Obama about whether he would send more troops to Afghanistan, where “Obama bin Laden is still at large.” In other words, the AP gives McCain tasty treats, and confuses Obama’s name with the 9/11 mastermind.

Since then, I can’t help but notice that the AP hasn’t exactly been neutral. A month ago, the AP ran an article about the “people who might complicate Obama’s campaign,” including Tony Rezko and Jeremiah Wright. The piece not only read like a slam job, it actually resembled an RNC oppo dump, which for all I know, it was.

Two weeks ago, the same reporter who made sure McCain had coffee to go with his donuts wrote a scathing, 900-word reprimand of Obama’s decision to bypass the public financing system in the general election. It was filled with errors of fact and judgment, and ignored the fact that McCain has illegally played fast and loose with the public-financing system this year.

And then this week, the AP’s David Espo wrote a hagiographic, 1,200-word piece, praising McCain’s record of reaching across the aisle. Reading it, one was unsure if maybe the AP had accidentally stuck a byline on a McCain campaign press release — Espo went so far as to laud McCain’s “singular brand of combative bipartisanship.”

For more than a decade, on tobacco, health care, immigration, judicial nominees, creation of a commission to investigate the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks and more, McCain has championed high-profile legislation opposed by President Bush or others in his own party.

His record of accomplishment is mixed, yet he has made his willingness to cross the political aisle a central theme in his campaign for the White House in an era when voters are plainly tired of partisan gridlock in the nation’s capital.

Wait, it gets worse.

In this midst of this sycophantic fluff piece, Espo slams Obama, too.

Obama, McCain’s Democratic rival in the race for the White House, also lists bipartisanship as a congressional credential. A recent Associated Press-Yahoo News poll showed about 40 percent of the electorate believes both men would work across party lines.
Even so, none of the examples cited by Obama’s aides, beginning with a bill to secure nuclear weapons in the former Soviet Union, placed the Illinois lawmaker at odds with the leaders of his own party or gave significant offense to outside interest groups aligned with Democrats.

Not so, McCain.

You see, if a policy maker reaches across the aisle to work with rivals on policies of national significance, it doesn’t really count as bipartisanship unless the policy maker’s party disagrees with the policy. Who came up with this rule? Apparently, the AP did.

And just to add insult to injury, the AP praises McCain’s record of bipartisanship on issues like tobacco and immigration reform, without noting that McCain completely reversed course and no longer believes in the position the AP is touting.

The Associated Press is one of the most widely read, if not the most read, sources of news in print journalism in the U.S. If it could at least pretend to be objective in the presidential campaign, I’m sure we’d all appreciate it.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16081.html

Rove Refuses House Judiciary

Rove Refuses House Judiciary Subpoena
By Kate Klonick - July 4, 2008, 1:41PM
Just last week, House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) subpoenaed a big chunk of the Bush Administration to talk to the Committee about the Valerie Plame leak scandal. Among those listed to testify: Karl Rove, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Scott McClellan, Dan Bartlett and Andrew Card.

And, predictably, Rove is the first one to thumb his nose at the Committee.

In a letter from Rove's attorney to Chairman Conyers, Robert Luskin writes:

While I understand that you would prefer-- and the Congress has taken the position in the pending litigation-- that Mr. Rove appear in person and assert any applicable privileges on a question by question basis, Mr. Rove is simply not free to accede to the Committee's view and take a position inconsistent with that asserted by the White House in the litigation. Mr. Rove will respectfully decline to appear before the Subcommittee on July 10 on the grounds that Executive Privilege confers upon him immunity from process in response to subpoena directed to this subject.
Our old friend executive privilege, rears its head again.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/rove_refuses_house_jud...

celibating

??? sounds like lots of fun but kind of lonely....

Poll: Slightly more see

Poll: Slightly more see McCain as a flip-flopper
New numbers from CNN suggest that a substantial majority doesn't buy the McCain-as-straight-talker narrative. The poll finds that 61% say McCain shifts positions for political reasons, though nearly as many (59%) say the same about Obama.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/03/poll.candidates/index.html

I got this from Greenwald

fetus in the third trimester

Photobucket

This is the little bastard I want to see out of his job!

Six-term GOP Congressman in Virginia suddenly facing competitive challenger
The emergence of a tough and well-funded Democratic challenger to GOP Rep. Virgil H. Goode, Jr., who represents south-central Virginia's fifth district, has prompted CQ Politics to shift its rating of the race from Safe Republican to Republican Favored, essentially declaring the contest a competitive one. Goode's challenger, lawyer Tom Perriello, is expected to run well in and near Charlottesville, especially among liberal academics around the University of Virginia, and will also benefit from Obama's vigorous efforts in the state.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002910551

Conservative pundits begin

Conservative pundits begin lying about Obama's Iraq remarks
Right-wing opinion-makers have begun falsifying Obama's Iraq remarks yesterday, starting with Charles Krauthammer of The Washington Post, who has a remarkably dishonest column this morning asserting as fact that Obama has "already begun" his "shift" in the direction of erasing "all meaningful differences with McCain on withdrawal from Iraq." Curiously, there's no mention in Krauthammer's column of the subsequent presser Obama held yesterday firmly reiterating his commitment to a 16-month withdrawal timetable.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/03/AR200807...

Penny Pritzker

Is one of the few Democrats in the Pritzker family. They own Hyatt Hotels. Some of the other family members are asses.

The reason I know this is my brother has the Hyatt Hotels as a client for the past 40 years. He's met most all of them including papa Pritzker that would do business on a hand shake if he trusted you. He's long gone though. Now the family took over and some of the sons and nephews are not the same makeup as the father.

Penny is part of the Obama team and is handling his events.

>>??? sounds like lots of

>>??? sounds like lots of fun but kind of lonely....

you know, like the old 3 dog night song:

Slippin' away, sittin' on a pillow
Waitin' for night to fall
A girl and a dream, sittin' on a pillow
This is the night to go to the celebrity ball

Satin and lace, isn't it a pity
Didn't find time to call
Ready or not, gonna make it to the city
This is the night to go to the celibacy ball

Dress up tonight, why be lonely?
You'll stay at home and you'll be alone
So why be lonely?
Sittin' alone, sittin' on a pillow
Waitin' to climb the walls
Maybe tonight, depending how your dream goes
She'll open her eyes when she goes to the celibacyball

Dress up tonight, why be lonely?
You'll stay at home and you'll be alone
So why be lonely?
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music
Celibate, celibate, dance to the music

Rising costs cancel 4th of

Rising costs cancel 4th of July celebrations.
The rising costs of imported fireworks, local budget crunches, “high fuel and transportation costs,” and the tight economy have canceled fireworks shows across the country.

What you may not see tomorrow:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/03/fireworks-displays-fizzl...

New Thread

Late term abortions are all about EMERGENCIES

Nora - Obama isn't talking

Submitted by Fernando on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 4:22pm.
abstinence only education. He never says that. Not once.

Senator Obama has back peddled on a couple of issues only. I support his "flip-flop" on public financing under current rules. I personally don't think it's a man's right to tell a woman anything about her body but I think these things should be decided by the second trimester or even earlier if possible. My only objection to late term abortions is the health of the mother. Assuming the health of the mother is not an issue, where is the responsibility of the mother to take control of events early?

» ===================

"...where is the responsibility of the mother to take control of events early?" you ask.

A pregnant woman cannot predict an emergency!

And some complications aren't evident until the last trimester.

As far as Obama's position on mental health not being important, I can't emphasize enough how insensitive that is to the realities of being female in this society. Reproductive age girls/women are being denied birth control education and birth control supplies (but here's your abstinence ring) in this country and around the world because of Bush's aid restrictions. Rape is rampant in this country and rape leads to trauma. (If men had babies, I wonder if OBAMA would force PTSD soldiers to carry babies to term).* Obama is really out of it if he doesn't realize how distraught a person can get when faced with a life and death emergency normally, or consider the dimension of stress with an unwanted pregnancy that can kill her due to some emergency criteria.

Women and kids in this country are open targets for violence, particularly sexual violence, and because of that females and children already suffer a great cost of loss of power in general. Now Obama comes forward to bargain over what small measure of power through the law we have over our bodies in what used to be the privacy of the doctor's office??!! This is unacceptable. The only thing that makes it acceptable to some folks is the hopeful delusion that Obama is just playing politics and will revert to a progressive position once elected, or worse that he is only the better of two evils.

I refuse to quelch my indignation over this man selling out the lives of women for a few Christianist and red state votes. (Obama may want us to believe that when he does these switcheroos they will result in turning redstates blue. In truth, he is only turning himself red!)

footnote:
________
* http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html

[excerpt]
Fact #1: 17.6 % of women in the United States have survived a completed or attempted rape. Of these, 21.6% were younger than age 12 when they were first raped, and 32.4% were between the ages of 12 and 17. (Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women, Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November, 2000)

Fact #9: One out of every six American women have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. (Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women Survey, National Institute of Justice and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1998)

Fact #12: Sexual violence is associated with a host of short- and long-term problems, including physical injury and illness, psychological symptoms, economic costs, and death (National Research Council 1996).

Fact #13: Rape victims often experience anxiety, guilt, nervousness, phobias, substance abuse, sleep disturbances, depression, alienation, sexual dysfunction, and aggression. They often distrust others and replay the assault in their minds, and they are at increased risk of future victimization (DeLahunta 1997).

Fact #17: In 2000, nearly 88,000 children in the United States experienced sexual abuse (ACF 2002).

Fact #18: About 81% of rape victims are white; 18% are black; 1% are of other races. (Violence Against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)

Fact #19: About half of all rape victims are in the lowest third of income distribution; half are in the upper two-thirds. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)

Fact #20: According to the Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance Survey (YRBSS), a national survey of high school students, 7.7% of students had been forced to have sexual intercourse when they did not want to. Female students (10%) were significantly more likely than male students (5%) to have been forced to have sexual intercourse. Overall, black students (10%) were significantly more likely than white students (7%) to have been forced to have sexual intercourse (CDC 2002).

Fact #21: Females ages 12 to 24 are at the greatest risk for experiencing a rape or sexual assault (DOJ 2001).

Fact #22: Almost two-thirds of all rapes are committed by someone who is known to the victim. 73% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger (— 38% of perpetrators were a friend or acquaintance of the victim, 28% were an intimate and 7% were another relative.) (National Crime Victimization Survey, 2005)

Fact #23: The costs of intimate partner violence against women exceed an estimated $5.8 billion. These costs include nearly $4.1 billion in the direct costs of medical care and mental health care and nearly $1.8 billion in the indirect costs of lost productivity and present value of lifetime earnings. (Costs of Intimate Partner Violence Against Women in the United States, Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Atlanta, Georgia, March 2003).
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Imagine, can't you, being raped and impregnated by one man, and then having another man tell you you must carry that pregnancy to term even if the baby will be deformed? Doesn't that sound like an insane situation to you? If the rape victim was not already distraught from trauma, can't you imagine this situation would make it worse? Can you imagine that Obama is robbing rape victims of time to heal and rebuild their lives, and that his little offer of 'compromise' will result in the suicides of some women? Obama is a cold, COLD person if he can bargain in this territory.

GBC -- The best plan I've seen in response to Obama's...

What was that crashing sound?
Submitted by GBC on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:19pm.
It was Senator Obama falling off his pedestal. I am a strong Obama supporter, and am working as a volunteer in the campaign. He has my vote, and will continue to benefit from my donations of money and time. But I now see Mr. Obama as far closer to Bill Clinton than the Kennedys and Kings in whose image I once thought he was fashioned.

That means that we can expect not only more disturbing changes during the campaign, but a substantial January surprise after inauguration, and to inure myself, I will not be maxing out for our candidate the way I expected. Much more of what money I can afford will be supporting liberal candidates on the assumption that we will need them to pressure the new president into making the honorable decisions that should be made on principle but apparently will need to be made through yielding to pressure.

That wasn't the deal you heard breaking, Senator, it was my romanticized idol of you fashioned out of finer stuff than it appears you're really made and enshrined in a place you don't belong.

[crossposted from Senator Obama - Please vote NO on Telcom Immunity - Get FISA Right on MyBarackObama.com]

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Very super response to Obama's switcheroos! Thank you.

evening gang!