SEDER V. MARON 12NOON est Today

hope you had a good vacation without too many daughter withdrawls

New paper to write on.

Bright Chunks At Phoenix Lander's Mars Site Must Have Been Ice Click to see images that show sublimation of ice in the trench informally called "Dodo-Goldilocks" over the course of four days. Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/University of Arizona/Texas A&M University
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TUCSON, Ariz. – Dice-size crumbs of bright material have vanished from inside a trench where they were photographed by NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander four days ago, convincing scientists that the material was frozen water that vaporized after digging exposed it.

"It must be ice," said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson. "These little clumps completely disappearing over the course of a few days, that is perfect evidence that it's ice. There had been some question whether the bright material was salt. Salt can't do that."

The chunks were left at the bottom of a trench informally called "Dodo-Goldilocks" when Phoenix's Robotic Arm enlarged that trench on June 15, during the 20th Martian day, or sol, since landing. Several were gone when Phoenix looked at the trench early today, on Sol 24.

Also early today, digging in a different trench, the Robotic Arm connected with a hard surface that has scientists excited about the prospect of next uncovering an icy layer.

The Phoenix science team spent Thursday analyzing new images and data successfully returned from the lander earlier in the day.

Studying the initial findings from the new "Snow White 2" trench, located to the right of "Snow White 1," Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis, co-investigator for the robotic arm, said, "We have dug a trench and uncovered a hard layer at the same depth as the ice layer in our other trench."
cy layer.

The Phoenix science team spent Thursday analyzing new images and data successfully returned from the lander earlier in the day.

Studying the initial findings from the new "Snow White 2" trench, located to the right of "Snow White 1," Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis, co-investigator for the robotic arm, said, "We have dug a trench and uncovered a hard layer at the same depth as the ice layer in our other trench."

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/main/

The Taliban tortured Abdul Rahim Abdul Razak al Ginco. They thought he was a U.S. spy. Then, U.S. soldiers called the Syrian native an enemy and shipped him to Guantanamo.

Now, Ginco will be turning a spotlight back on the Bush administration itself. Newly empowered by the Supreme Court, Ginco has become the first Guantanamo detainee to demand in a U.S. federal court that the military show the hard evidence that justifies his detention. Scores of others are expected to do likewise, attorneys predict.

The war on terror may never be the same.

On June 12, the court rewrote the rules for the Guantanamo detainees in the landmark case known as Boumediene v. Bush. The 5-4 majority opinion authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy concluded that the foreigners held at the U.S. Navy's Guantanamo Bay facility were protected by the U.S. Constitution's habeas corpus protections.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/habeas-begins-gitmo-priso_n_108...

Somethang going on today ? ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

It's a lovely day in Sederville.

PEOPLE FOR THE AMERICAN WAY 2008

You may have heard already that Republicans and Democrats in the House have reached what they're calling a "compromise" bill on FISA reform.

But it's not a compromise. It's a cop-out.

Congress had a chance to stand up for our rights -- and for the Constitution -- and deny immunity to telecommunications companies that may have helped the Bush administration spy on Americans without warrants.

They had a chance -- but this "compromise" doesn't do it.

The bill -- which the House may vote on as early as today -- ties the hands of the district courts on the question of immunity. It fails to guarantee individualized warrants. And it puts all of this and more on the books through 2012 -- the tail end of the next administration.

To have any chance of preventing this travesty of justice from becoming law, we've got to act -- now. The vote may happen in less than 12 hours.

You've done your part in this fight when we've called on you in the past -- can you join us for one more push?

Please call now !

My Elected Officials
Find and contact your federal, state, and local officials.

LINK

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Superyacht Market Stays Strong

A new Superyachting Index shows that the top end of the yachting market is still holding firm – at least for now.

The index, which is compiled by The Luxury Institute and Camper & Nicholsons International – the yacht broker and charter company – found that new orders for yachts over 130 feet are up 18% in 2008. There were 254 new orders for yachts longer than 130-feet last year, up from 134 in 2005.

The report also puts into perspective the astounding growth rate over the past decade for jumbo yachts. In 1997, there were just 241 yachts of 80-feet or more under construction around the world. Last year, there were 916 such boats being built.

The average price for motoryachts longer than 100 feet was $10.3 million in 2007. The average price for sailing yachts of the same length was $9 million (although, to the dismay of traditionalists, sailing yachts now make up a tiny fraction of the large yacht market).

Ironically, the biggest constraint to the industry’s growth isn’t the economy — it’s staffing. The report says that about 25,000 crewmembers are necessary for today’s fleet of superyachts, but only about 15,000 currently work aboard yachts. Shortages of captains and engineers, it notes, are especially acute.

All of this sounds encouraging. And the superyacht market likely won’t face the same crash it experienced in previous downturns, since it’s so global. Just a decade ago, the vast majority of big boats were being purchased by Americans and Europeans. Now, Russian, Indian and Middle Eastern buyers are fueling the market.

Still, after talking with several yacht brokers last week about the market, I believe the market – at least in the U.S. – is poised for a slowdown. A year ago, buyers could order a new boat knowing that, in the worst case, they could flip it for a quick profit. Now they’re more hesitant.

“With the American market especially, people are waiting for more certainty in financial markets before make a big decision,” said Jonathen Beckett, CEO of Burgess.

Either way, The Wealth Report will be sure to check back with the Superyacht Index in a few months.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/06/19/superyacht-market-stays-strong/

And,the Boys will be live..

Been missing The Sam & Marc fix..

What wastes of Talent,aye ?

Pisses me off ! O'well..

Hopefully somethang Good will happen for them both soon..
I know we all have our fingers crossed. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 9:01am.
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Yeah! I'm taking my yacht out today. It's called, The Bathtub

Oh,Thank Gad ! !

Just got my stimulus check !

I'll see you all out there shopping for yacht's ! ;0

www.marc.maronrules.blogspot.com
Yachts & Blinky things Galore !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Mmmmm....coffee and muffins...maple glazed....

Styx - Come Sail Away - Glasgow 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz1PoS_o264

Then go to:
Rubber Ducky...I'm awfully fond of you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Wkq8iouEY

"drill-nothing Congress" "anti-American drilling crowd"

Ted Poe (R) Texas, just now, on CSPAN

Taliban capture US helicopter parts

Wednesday, June 18, 2008

By Hamid Mir

ISLAMABAD: In a startling operation that shook the Pentagon, the White House and the US administration some weeks back, the Taliban in the tribal areas captured parts of three US helicopters — Chinook, Black Hawk and Cobra — while they were being shipped in huge containers from Peshawar to Jalalabad in Afghanistan.

Pakistani officials have confirmed the capture while the US diplomats stationed in Islamabad are trying to fudge the issue without denying it outright. US embassy spokesperson Elizabeth Colton commented: "The embassy has no comment on this as the information appears to be only hearsay."

When this correspondent informed the embassy spokesperson that he had seen pictures of the stolen parts of helicopters, she again said "no comment". Some diplomats in Islamabad are very much aware of this recent Taliban operation but they were not ready to speak on record.

Diplomatic sources say the recent US air strike in the tribal areas was actually an attack on the location where the unassembled parts of the two helicopters, owned by the US armed forces, were stored by the Taliban.

Sources told The News US Assistant Secretary Richard Boucher was to visit Pakistan and Afghanistan soon in view of the situation in the region. What is shocking is the revelation that the US forces were transporting helicopters in unassembled form in containers, which landed at the Karachi Port and travelled all the way by road to Peshawar and then entered the tribal areas for onward journey to Afghanistan.

When these containers entered the Khyber Agency at Jamrud, the Taliban stopped the convoys and took away the helicopter parts. Pakistani paramilitary forces in the area tried to confront the Taliban but they suffered heavy losses due to darkness. This happened in the same area where Pakistan's Ambassador to Afghanistan Tariq Azizuddin was kidnapped in February this year.

Chinook and Black Hawk were captured recently while the Cobra was hijacked some weeks back. When the Taliban first captured the Cobra helicopter, they filmed all the stolen parts and supplied the CD to their allies in Afghanistan.

Some people in the Farah province of western Afghanistan showed interest in purchasing the Cobra helicopter and subsequently its parts were smuggled to Farah. Taliban sold this Cobra to an unidentified customer for several hundred thousand dollars.

Following the latest ground hijacking, the Taliban have again filmed all the stolen parts of CH-47 Chinook and Black Hawk choppers. Chinook is a versatile twin-engine helicopter that was also used to help the earthquake victims in Kashmir in October 2005 by the US Army.

The Taliban have again sent the CD to people for attracting customers from neighbouring countries of Afghanistan. They do not seem to have hit any customer as the stolen parts with extra engines are still in their custody.

The Taliban captured some unexploded Tomahawk missiles in the Khost area of eastern Afghanistan in 1998. These missiles were fired on al-Qaeda hideouts after attacks on US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. The Taliban handed over some of the unexploded US missiles to the Chinese in 1998.

Top US military officials have demanded recently from Pakistan to start an operation in the tribal areas for the recovery of their stolen helicopters. They have expressed concern that instead of initiating an operation against the Taliban, the new government is negotiating peace with the Taliban.

Concerned officials in the Foreign Office were of the opinion that the Taliban had increased their attacks in Afghanistan recently due to the incompetence of the Afghan National Army and the Nato forces.

The Taliban used a fuel tanker packed with 1800 kg of explosives a few days ago to break a jail in Kandahar. They got released their 400 comrades along with 1,100 other prisoners in that operation.

On Tuesday, the Taliban captured Arghundab district of Kandahar province. It was also a big blow to the credibility of Nato and the Karzai government but now both of them are trying to divert the international attention by threatening to attack the Pakistani border areas.

The Taliban have recently conducted bloody operations against the Nato forces in Shenwro district of Parwaon province in the north, Taren Kot city of Uruzgan province in the south and Poli Alm city of Logar province close to Kabul.

All these are not close to the Pakistani borders and the Taliban were attacking the Nato with the help of the local population.

It was learnt that the high command of Pakistani security forces has requested the government for permission to respond in a hard-hitting manner to any attack from Afghanistan in future.

Meanwhile, US Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher would visit Pakistan and Afghanistan shortly. It is expected that he would try to narrow down the differences between Islamabad and Kabul.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=15419

Ask them to not give immunity to the telecoms when they vote today on the FISA compromise. Don't dilly-dally, the vote can come up in the next 12 hours.
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Britain is the world’s biggest arms exporter

London Britain was the world’s biggest arms seller last year, accounting for a third of global arms exports, the Government’s trade promotion organisation said.

UK Trade and Investment (UKTI) said that arms exporters had added £9.7 billion in new business last year, giving them a larger share of global arms exports than the United States.

“As demonstrated by this outstanding export performance, the UK has a first-class defence industry, with some of the world’s most technologically sophisticated companies,” Digby Jones, the Minister for Trade and Investment, said.

UKTI said that the figures were boosted by orders for Eurofighter Typhoon jets from Saudi Arabia, the world’s biggest arms buyer, which has imported $31 billion (£16 million) in weapons over the past five years. There were also orders from Oman and Trinidad and Tobago for offshore patrol vessels.

The US is still the world’s biggest exporter over the past five years, with $63 billion in total arms exports. Britain was second with $53 billion and Russia third with $33 billion.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4161341.ece

Obama Recording Ads to Support Worst of Blue Dogs

So Barack Obama just recorded a radio ad for Rep. John Barrow (D-GA). Barrow has accused Democrats of wanting to “cut and run” in Iraq, and enthusiastically supports telcom immunity. He needs Obama’s support because he’s being challenged in the primary by State Senator Regina Thomas. Bonus ugliness: Barrow is white, Thomas is an African-American woman. Glenn Greenwald has the details here.

Anyone who can afford it may want to donate to a non-partisan effort to prevent an imminent Congressional sellout on warrantless eavesdropping and and immunity for telcoms who broke the law helping the Bush regime spy on us. (People with blogs can also join the blog arm of the left-right alliance Strange Bedfellows.) Again, Greenwald has the background.

http://www.thismodernworld.com/

Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 9:01am.
...A year ago, buyers could order a new boat knowing that, in the worst case, they could flip it for a quick profit. Now they’re more hesitant...
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Flipping a yacht for a quick profit is a misnomer. It is true that some boats have appreciated during certain time periods (when demand created a wait list for new boats).

For us mere mortals, a "quick profit" would translate to "we didn't lose as much money as we might have."

Boats of the motor yacht caliber are fully staffed all of the time. That's one expense.

They cost a lot of money to park dockside. That's another expense.

They require expensive repairs. That's another expense.

They cost millions of dollars to purchase. That's a lot of capital tied up in something that is unlikely to provide a return on investment comparable to investing the money elsewhere.

I doubt than there have been very many examples of owners, versus manufacturers and brokers, of "turning a profit" on these boats .

for the music.

I really need this today. Very frustrated reading all of Glenn Greenwald's work.

MSNBC is carrying part of this committee meeting.

They've been talking about it all morning.

ON NOW - VIDEO LINK

so if you or someone else is not able to watch it live, they can watch it tonight, and of course it will be available via CSPAN archives for viewing at your leisure.

Imagine: someone from the executive branch of our government has voluntarily appeared before congress.

This is a momentus day. Shouldn't be, but it is.

Dunno if I will be able to stay awake thru the hearing, as I was up rather late last night. BUT that is why at least for me, I am very grateful for CSPAN and their archives.

Coffee, Tea, and other breakfast items are of course available at the bar - please help yourselves. I still have not found my way to my own caffiene.

Well - Rep. Lamar Smith - ranking member just set the tone for the hearing.
Book of the Month Club....

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

form....pretty sexy stuff

mclleelands publisher also publishes for george soros therefore you can't believe anything he wrote.

- senator headly lamar

He's manipulated?

when they question Scotty... already Republicans trying to disrupt this hearing.

8-)

Free Democracy

its got to be some sort of dog whistle. if scotty == judas does bush == jesus?

with one meatball!!!

You are on to something there.
And that makes me sick.... what perversion of the religion that the white house pretends to hold so dear.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

interesting results when you google that one. somebody call ask dr. maddow.

Nadler just slammed Smith pretty good. McClelland is well prepared and very good at talking thru interruptions.

that saddam hussein was an international terrorist, ahhh still believe it.

you gotta feel sorry for people that have someone like coble as their representative

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFgnyM_9rnQ

hmmm. where do you suppose he learned that skill :)

planning? What planning? How could they have problems with post entry planning if there were no post entry plans???

The post entry plans were perfectly non-existent. Oh, maybe that's the problem.

is in recess?

that was the procedural manuever that was used the other week by the rethuglicans to shut down a hearing. something about you are only allowed to have a hearing last two hours unless everyone agrees otherwise.

I was calling my Congress Woman and I missed it ?

Lunch ?
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time to move over the center ring for a couple of small votes and then the fisa capitulation.

What kind of nonesense is that?
Talk about "talking AROUND the objectives?"

THere was a problem with planning for AFTER our troops did what they were sent to do - take Bagdad....

Post entry - thats like saying - I forgot what to do once I put my shoe on my foot.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

I don't know..I sure hope not..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

the so called analysis, the repubs think he should have spoken up sooner and not wait to write the book. I can understand that to a point, but with this admin and it's backers, it was smart of him personally to write the book and get the press interested. Less likely for him to disappear or less likely for the repugs to start a campaign against Scotty.

Here we go again.

Rep. Steny Hoyer is leading a "compromise" on the FISA reauthorization bill that would ultimately let the Bush administration and their friends at AT&T and Verizon off the hook for illegally spying on innocent Americans.

Last night, this so-called compromise was voted out of committee and as early as this morning the bill may be brought to the House floor for a full vote.

Speaker Pelosi can still stop this bill.

As Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi can pull the bill from the floor and refuse to call a vote.

Call Speaker Pelosi right now and demand she stand up to President Bush and stop telecom immunity.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
(202) 225-0100

First of all, who was that thug, Lamar Smith who was allowed to blather on his nonsense and character assassination. Doesn't Conyers have the right to step in and give some guidelines? Also what kind of testimony just gets started and recesses for another vote. Can't this committee start after the very important FISA bill vote? It's not like they didn't know that was coming. It really screws up the impact of the investigation. Now they are starting the FISA vote. Call your Congress person!!!

The Two Obamas

By DAVID BROOKS
Published: June 20, 2008

God, Republicans are saps. They think that they’re running against some academic liberal who wouldn’t wear flag pins on his lapel, whose wife isn’t proud of America and who went to some liberationist church where the pastor damned his own country. They think they’re running against some naïve university-town dreamer, the second coming of Adlai Stevenson.
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But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there’s Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who’d throw you under the truck for votes.

This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He’s the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he’s too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside.

But he’s been giving us an education, for anybody who cares to pay attention. Just try to imagine Mister Rogers playing the agent Ari in “Entourage” and it all falls into place.

Back when he was in the Illinois State Senate, Dr. Barack could have taken positions on politically uncomfortable issues. But Fast Eddie Obama voted “present” nearly 130 times. From time to time, he threw his voting power under the truck.

Dr. Barack said he could no more disown the Rev. Jeremiah Wright than disown his own grandmother. Then the political costs of Rev. Wright escalated and Fast Eddie Obama threw Wright under the truck.

Dr. Barack could have been a workhorse senator. But primary candidates don’t do tough votes, so Fast Eddie Obama threw the workhorse duties under the truck.

Dr. Barack could have changed the way presidential campaigning works. John McCain offered to have a series of extended town-hall meetings around the country. But favored candidates don’t go in for unscripted free-range conversations. Fast Eddie Obama threw the new-politics mantra under the truck.

And then on Thursday, Fast Eddie Obama had his finest hour. Barack Obama has worked on political reform more than any other issue. He aspires to be to political reform what Bono is to fighting disease in Africa. He’s spent much of his career talking about how much he believes in public financing. In January 2007, he told Larry King that the public-financing system works. In February 2007, he challenged Republicans to limit their spending and vowed to do so along with them if he were the nominee. In February 2008, he said he would aggressively pursue spending limits. He answered a Midwest Democracy Network questionnaire by reminding everyone that he has been a longtime advocate of the public-financing system.

But Thursday, at the first breath of political inconvenience, Fast Eddie Obama threw public financing under the truck. In so doing, he probably dealt a death-blow to the cause of campaign-finance reform. And the only thing that changed between Thursday and when he lauded the system is that Obama’s got more money now.

And Fast Eddie Obama didn’t just sell out the primary cause of his life. He did it with style. He did it with a video so risibly insincere that somewhere down in the shadow world, Lee Atwater is gaping and applauding. Obama blamed the (so far marginal) Republican 527s. He claimed that private donations are really public financing. He made a cut-throat political calculation seem like Mother Teresa’s final steps to sainthood.

The media and the activists won’t care (they were only interested in campaign-finance reform only when the Republicans had more money). Meanwhile, Obama’s money is forever. He’s got an army of small donors and a phalanx of big money bundlers, including, according to The Washington Post, Kenneth Griffin of the Citadel Investment Group; Kirk Wager, a Florida trial lawyer; James Crown, a director of General Dynamics; and Neil Bluhm, a hotel, office and casino developer.

I have to admit, I’m ambivalent watching all this. On the one hand, Obama did sell out the primary cause of his professional life, all for a tiny political advantage. If he’ll sell that out, what won’t he sell out? On the other hand, global affairs ain’t beanbag. If we’re going to have a president who is going to go toe to toe with the likes of Vladimir Putin, maybe it is better that he should have a ruthlessly opportunist Fast Eddie Obama lurking inside.

All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naïve. But naïve is the last word I’d use to describe Barack Obama. He’s the most effectively political creature we’ve seen in decades. Even Bill Clinton wasn’t smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slo...

Bloomberg defends Obama before Jewish audience 1 hour, 19 minutes ago

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is urging Jewish voters to denounce the online whisper campaign that for months has pushed the false rumor that Democrat Barack Obama is secretly a Muslim.

Bloomberg is speaking to members of a Jewish group in Boca Raton, Fla. He's warning them that the attempt to portray Obama as a shadowy Muslim with a hidden agenda often targets Jewish voters online and with e-mails.

The mayor says the deceptive campaign against Obama, who is a Christian, threatens to undo the strides that Jews and Muslims have made together.

The billionaire independent has not endorsed anyone yet in the presidential race. But his powerful defense of Obama Friday could help the Illinois senator in Florida, home to many Jewish voters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080620/ap_on_el_pr/obama_bloomberg_jewish_v...

I wonder how many times the Dow has broken through 12,000 on Dubya's watch? Six? I've lost count.

Welcome to the Conservative's time machine, where the past is always present.

So to pass FISA they put on a media side show with Scotty. What a bunch of cowards. We need to start a push to REPLACE PELOSI AND STENY HOYER! They must be punished for striking out the Fourth Amendment!

Contribute to Cindy Sheehan HERE
and yes, before I put one of these links down, its because I have donated. This one is a recurring donation.

McCain says he didn't love America before the age of 31
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Yes, John McCain has repeatedly stated that he didn't love our country until he was captured as a POW during Vietnam. Here's what McCain said in March on FOX:
"I didn't really love America until I was deprived of her company."
Then there's McCain in 1999:
"It wasn't until I was deprived of her company that I fell in love with America."
McCain was 31 years old when he was captured. 31. Far into adulthood. So McCain was fighting for our country, a country he didn't love. And we're supposed to respect the military service of a man who didn't love his country. Then why was he fighting?

How is this any different from what Michelle Obama said? Mrs. Obama said that for the first time in her adult life she really loves our country. McCain said that he never loved our country before the age of 31. At least Mrs. Obama did love our country before. McCain not so much. And another thing. Michelle Obama is the candidate's WIFE. John McCain wants to be commander in chief of a country he didn't love.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/06/mccain-says-he-didnt-love-america.htm...

XM radio starting June 14...A self produced show recieving national coverage on satellite radio...this is hopeful for Sam..

I called Pelosi's office..
Concerning the New FISA Bill..
Whoever answered my call asked where I'm calling from..

I said Calif..Long Pause..He asked SFO ?Then I said San Diego..Mistake..
Then he goes,(Rudely) well your not a constituent !
I said well she is The Speaker of The House,isn't she ?
He said yes..Then connected me to her voice-mail !
Butthead !

I left a message..
This constituent stuff is a bunch of BS !
When we Call a member of Congress and they hold a position
Like Speaker of The House or Majority Leader etc..
We Are All Their Constituents,(The Whole Country)not just their
small area of where they are Congress members or Senators !
To claim otherwise is Total BS !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Contact Us

Office of the Speaker
H-232, US Capitol
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-0100

she needs to pay for her mistake. We need Pelosi OUT!

Deep down I don't disagree with her. The problem is that we need to get rid of the repubs rule to even grow some good 3rd parties. And how can you get a majprity of the people to go along with a 3rd party?

There is a debate going in my Il progressive group about thi right now.The Green party is beginning to grow in this area, so they are a part of our group. And they, like Alice, are pushing their presidential candidate.

Here's a part of the debate:

Green Party:

Every other democracy in the world has governments that support more than 2 parties. If we want to survive in this country, it's time to catch up with the rest of the world. The people can pressure the two corporate controlled parties to open up the government to more than 2 parties, but it will take hard work and voting for OTHER parties.

Progressive party member:

But other nations have different electoral systems that make third parties viable. Australia, for example, has preferential voting - this makes it possible for third parties to exist as minorities with influence. The winner take all electoral system is the problem here - third parties cannot overcome that without massive support and they lack that.

It's been interesting to me to read these emails, and there are many. Wish they would start a blog.

Nanosolar Achieves 1GW CIGS Deposition Throughput

(that means they can make solar panels cheaper and faster)

http://www.nanosolar.com/blog3/

June 18, 2008

Posted by Martin Roscheisen, CEO

As we are busy ramping our operation, we almost forgot to recognize achieving a major milestone in solar technology: The solar industry’s first 1GW production tool. Here it is:

is a Democrat in name only. He's a bought and paid for member. He caters to GOP agenda and always folds. Now he is the co-sponsor in removing the fourth amendment.

Treeburg

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HERE per Thomas at Congress.gov

`(4) in the case of a covered civil action, the assistance alleged to have been provided by the electronic communication service provider was--

`(i) authorized by the President; and
`(ii) determined to be lawful; or

she has a separate speaker number...try this
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Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 10:52am
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I might be dumb But, I Ain't Stupid ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Reyes you piece of fucking shit! Republican talking points in your fucking statement...what a shameful rollover...

check out this local company.

My son just finished designing their website and they have retooled my local public pool reducing clorine usage by 90% using solar.

http://sesnv.com/

When you get answers like that from the aides, just tell them..."Gee, you sound just like the republicans now!"

no need for self sarcasm here mm.

by F. William Engdahl - May 2, 2008

The price of crude oil today is not made according to any traditional relation of supply to demand. It’s controlled by an elaborate financial market system as well as by the four major Anglo-American oil companies. As much as 60% of today’s crude oil price is pure speculation driven by large trader banks and hedge funds. It has nothing to do with the convenient myths of Peak Oil. It has to do with control of oil and its price. How?

You can read the rest at the link above or in the Open Mic…

Free Democracy

PELOSI and HOYER OUT !

Reyes Too !

Corporate Lying Hacks !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

how so mhappenow?

Submitted by mhappenow on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 11:09am.
no need for self sarcasm here mm

See..Sarcasm..
Or do we need another long lesson on Sarcasm ?
Don't think so.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Why is it so hard to figure out what's going on in commodities markets -- oil specifically?

Greenberger: Well, the reason it's hard to figure out is about 30 percent of our crude oil energy futures are traded in what is called a dark market -- that is a market that was deregulated in December of 2000 at the behest of Enron. Prior to that legislation being passed, all energy futures traded in the United States or affecting the United States in a significant fashion were regulated by United States regulators under a very careful regime that had been perfected over about 78 years and many observers believe that because those markets are not being policed, malpractices are being committed and traders are able to boost the price virtually at their will.

Ryssdal: You're not really telling me that seven years on, we're still paying the price for Enron, are you?

Greenberger: Well, this has been called the "Enron Loophole" and there are many legislators working very hard to close that loophole. There is tremendous concern about this on Capitol Hill and on a bipartisan basis, people are drafting legislation to try and get a handle on this and not eliminate speculation, but bring the speculation under the kind of time-tested controls that were used until Enron had its way and amended the law to escape traditional tested regulation on speculative activities.

Ryssdal: So what's Congress going to do? Congress is going to get together, they're going to pass a law and it's going to say, "CFTC, fix this?"

Greenberger: Well, there are several proposals suggesting or proposing that light shine on these dark markets and some of the legislation goes further than others, but the bottom line is the speculators will, in the end, be policed. We will know who they are, what they're doing, what their controls are, what effect they're having on the market. Maybe we'll find out that there's nothing there.

Ryssdal: So just to be clear, you do think that we're in a bubble, then?

Greenberger: I believe it and I'm certainly not alone in my belief. If you talk to anybody who trades in these markets on a regular basis, they will tell you that the markets are completely dysfunctional and out of control because of speculative activity.

Ryssdal: How long is it going to take then if we are, as you say, in a bubble, for it to work its way through and us to get back to something more realistic for the price of a barrel of oil, whether its 50 bucks or 80 bucks?

Greenberger: From my own experience as a commodity regulator, I believe that if the Bush Administration were serious about its regulation, we could begin seeing prices drop within a month. If we don't get the kind of regulation that has been done for decades and the market proceeds along the pace its proceeding, we will have to go through a very, very serious recession. The question is do you want to deflate the bubble by that kind of suffering or do you want to deflate the bubble by applying tight U.S. regulatory controls?

Ryssdal: Michael Greenberger used to run the Division of Trading and Markets for the Commodities Futures Trading Commission. He teaches law at the University of Maryland now. Mr. Greenberger, thanks a lot for your time.

Greenberger: You're welcome.

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/06/16/cftc/

have an outlet with XM.

If Sam starts a self produced show like the YOung Turks, it could be picked up by xm/sirius. He has been talking about doing this of late. So now the Young Turks is not only online...it is getting a national audience.

or is it ironic

should I post that wiki article again?

can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not!

To all the blue dog ( Fake) Democrats for bending over once
again

http://sesnv.com/

good site design.

give him my compliments on the website!

conjures an interesting image

Told her to please put impeachment on the table

Ah see! said the blind man! :) Thanks, that is good news for Sam!

...please pay kuby a visit and teach him how to use a 360.

Sam wins...can get the replay of the hearings later

Lamar Smith Compares McClellan To Judas, Declares ‘It’s Hard To Take Mr. McClellan Too Seriously’
Last month, former White House press secretary Scott McClellan published a memoir asserting that the Bush administration waged a “propaganda” campaign used to “sell the war” in Iraq to the public. He also said that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby deliberately sent him to the press to lie about their connection to the leak of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

Today, McClellan is testifying before the House Judiciary Committee. In his opening statement, the committee’s ranking member Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), one of Bush’s most loyal defenders, derided the hearing as the committee’s “first book-of-the-month-club meeting,” and suggested the next book should one by right-winger Ann Coulter. Lamar also compared McClellan to Judas, insisting he was “selling out the president” for “a few pieces of silver”:

SMITH: Welcome to the House Judicary Committee’s first book-of-the-month-club meeting. I propose that next time we consider Ann Coulter’s book, “How To Talk To A Liberal If You Must.” It’s hard to take Mr. McClellan or this hearing too seriously. … Scott McClellan alone will have to wrestle with whether it was worth selling out the president and his friends for a few pieces of silver.

Video at link

There’s no comparison between Coulter — who never served in the administration — and McClellan, who was a member of Bush’s inner circle for most of the past decade. Later in the hearing, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) apologized to McClellan for the “aspersions as to your motives…that we heard a few minutes ago.” “Such character assassination has no business in this committee,” Nadler said.

Lamar’s attempts to dismiss McClellan’s testimony echoes the strategy on the right to write off McClellan’s complaints as unimportant and disloyal. McClellan’s former boss Ari Fleischer insisted that only “Washington and people who follow Washington” cared about McClellan’s allegation. “I’m bored,” Bill O’Reilly complained, while Former House Speaker declared, “I’m more concerned about American Idol than I am about Scott McClellan.” White House officials also blasted him as a “traitor” and a “Benedict.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/20/mcclellan-smith/

McClellan: Don’t Pardon Scooter Libby
Last year, President Bush infamously commuted the prison sentence of former Vice President Cheney aide Scooter Libby, who was convicted in the CIA leak scandal. “As to the future, I rule nothing in and nothing out,” Bush said afterwards, referring to a future pardon. Testifying before Congress today, Scott McClellan said Bush should not pardon Libby:

Mr. Chairman, I believe that it would signal a special treatment, the same thing that happened with the commutation. And the President has always held a certain standard for a granting pardons, even going back to when he was governor, and I worked for him then. And that is, that the person must first repay his debt to his society, and second, must express remorse for the crimes which he committed. And we have seen neither of that from Scooter Libby at this point.

Watch it:
at link

Earlier this month, McClellan said Bush should have fired Karl Rove for his involvement in exposing an undercover CIA agent. “He said we were going to set the highest of standards, we didn’t live up to that,” said McClellan.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/20/mcclellan-dont-pardon-scooter-libby/

Responding to an ABC News/Washington Times investigation, “the Veterans Administration plans to inform 32,000 veterans that they are using a drug linked to suicide or violent behavior.” The ABC/Times investigation revealed that the VA waited three months to notify Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans in a VA experiment of the possible side effects from the anti-smoking drug Chantix.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5206386&page=1

As the Bush administration approaches its end, “Vice President Dick Cheney has won his battle to withhold records from the public.” “He has managed to stonewall everyone,” said House Oversight Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA). “I’m not sure there’s anything we can do.”

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/cheney-gets-last-laugh-2008-06-19.ht...

Boehner is as reptilian as they come...Thanking Republican staffers for working with "our Democrat colleagues", what a slimy little turd that guy is!

The “dirty truth about clean coal” is that it is “more a catchphrase than a reality,” writes BusinessWeek. “Despite the eagerness of the coal and power industries to sanitize their image and the desire of U.S. politicians to push a healthy-sounding alternative to expensive foreign oil and natural gas, clean coal is still a misnomer.”

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_26/b4090055452749.htm

Interesting? As in the blue dogs get thrown a bone? No I know what you mean Mhappen.
The stupid blue dogs all need to be voted out along with their Rethug pals.

Also, I have been watching the series Rome- Very disturbing and very very similar to now.
This AM, I was thinking about how so many Repugs have been outed by the MSM . For a media that can't report on anything important, but can roll right over the "Fallen" cohorts. Makes me wonder what they did to displease Caeser, I mean Hitler, I mean Bush and Co.

The first thorough federal review of research on how global warming may affect extreme climate events in North America forecasts more drenching rains, parching droughts (especially in the Southwest), intense heat waves and stronger hurricanes if long-lived greenhouse gases continue building in the atmosphere.

The report is distinct from last month’s federal review of specific impacts of warming on agriculture, ecosystems, coasts and the like in the United States, focusing instead on how weather patterns will change. It also largely echoes, at the regional level, findings on global impacts from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change last year.

The report, Weather and Climate Extremes in a Changing Climate, is online at http://www.climatescience.gov/. The biggest impacts of global warming will be from the shifts in the frequency and duration of extreme events, not the slow rise in the average temperature, it concluded.

More here

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G'morning, Sunshine Jim!
Thanks for the Nanosolar news.

on the span - so far all we've heard is "it's not perfect but it's a good bill" and other such crap from mostly republicans, only repubs so far have spoken, where are the others? that despicable issa is on now

How many creeps we have in congress

If you want to come down I'll be headlining at the LA Improv on Melrose. Friday, June 20th, 8PM and Saturday, june 21st 8 and 10PM.

Maron

www.marcmaron.com

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

she's commending everybody

Biotch! Cindy for Congress!

purrrr!

No Cunt-try for Old Man...bahaha!

Slashdot

The Senate mortgage bill proposed by Sen. Chris Dodd (who was the recipient of a sweetheart deal on his mortgage from Countrywide, one of the beneficiaries of the bill) includes an attempt to sneak into law a requirement that all electronic payment processors send detailed transaction data to the federal government. The proposed law contains an exception for people with less than 200 transactions or a total value less than $10,000.

Quoting FreedomWorks chairman Dick Armey (former House majority leader) from the article: 'This is a provision with astonishing reach, and it was slipped into the bill just this week. Not only does it affect nearly every credit card transaction in America, such as Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express, but the bill specifically targets payment systems like eBay's PayPal, Amazon, and Google Checkout that are used by many small online businesses. The privacy implications for America's small businesses are breathtaking.'

Sucks when Penis Navy is right ...

i agree with malloy's view of this pelosi b****

the vast Democratic Activist Base MUST take down Pelosi, then Hoyer, then every other person attacking our Constitution until we have a government for the people and of the people. It's an election season and it is up to us to do something now.

tuned in and what the fuck is NANCY talking about?

Long time no see..

I hope you have been doing good !

I'm just here watching our Elected reps.Sell our Country down the tubes again..

Not very good sport when you have Lobbyist's and Corporate money on one side

and,The Most of The American People on the other side..

Big money wins every time !

Pray and/or Push For Public Financed Elections !

It's The Only Way To Even The Field !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

The Hill

Vice President Dick Cheney has won his battle to withhold records from the public despite efforts by Congress and other critics who say they should be open to scrutiny.

The Democrats are conceding defeat. The party’s top investigator in the House of Representatives acknowledges that there is nothing more he can do to force the vice president’s hand.

“He has managed to stonewall everyone,” said Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. “I’m not sure there’s anything we can do.”

Waxman said that despite Cheney’s turning this administration into “one of the most secretive in history,” there’s not much he or anyone else can do because the administration has only a few more months left in office.

...

Congressional probes, sometimes ignored by the Justice Department, have led nowhere, and prominent lawmakers are throwing their hands in the air.

geeze do I have to reveal my scorpio self...I saw a big boner literally getting rave reviews.

I miss Seder on the radio and it's one of the few chances I've had to catch Maron v. Seder. Although I have noticed the site is having connection issues today.

I love the smell of Impeachment in the morning.

My browser decided to close down right before the Vod started. Got the Vod but the blog was really hit! just now got on. 23 minutes!

working well. You guys must be elsewhere

of course, at that moment it fritzed

listening to fucking hoyer giving everybody and their mother shout out....FUCK

After the 2008 election, we need to then get rid of the Blue Dogs and DINO's who are voting with the Rethuglicans. We have already seen one of them ousted by Donna Edwards. The only way there will be change is if we have progressives.

I love the smell of Impeachment in the morning.

marc and sam talking at same time

makes for a great show....I don't blame him

"because the administration has only a few more months left in office."

7 = "a few"?

must remember that when getting job estimates in the future.

Sam never considered that there may not be an election...

vicious flagsuckers...

who the fuck has been posting utubes on this thread again?

here in the city---normally screws up my computer

I wanna run! I wanna run for congress. I believe anyone could do it. I believe you could throw out all the "bluedogs" and Rethugs and pick random people off the street in Washington They would do a much better job!

just normal glitch

sammy gets a hell of a jolt to his servers on show day.

he's still hammerin out the "deal"

if he makes a good one

server bandwidth

will be fine.

294-128!

Can we still filibuster? Nope!

morning SJ
cannot wait for that to happen

must be a hundred good stories

about "what if's" coming true. Speculative Fiction more properly.

wonderful thinking from those writers.

no no filibuster, too late

but it still needs to go to the senate, no?

Still has to go to the Senate.

gawd fuck what cunts!!! i swear!! i was trying not to watch Mirelli...

and what does that mean? rockefeller is pulling their reigns there....they will pass it, they have passed it before without a problem

NOW!!! mmpphh!!!

Marc, get this divorce over with.
And, then, make a baby with a woman you like.
The future will suddenly fall into place.

WTG Marc!

(effin poets)

goodun Sam!

C'ya l8r

gang!

soap box

barrels maybe i could get all these clothes sent to South Africa by the end of next week....i need to spring clean after that...

For once I'm home on a Maron v. Seder day AND YOU CHANGE THE FRICKIN' TIME!! Here I was at the PC at 12:57 PM with a cup of coffee and a half-pint of blueberries, and IT'S ALMOST OVER! Sam, you're KILLING me!

The World-Famous Thanks to Morning Sedition
Brilliant at Breakfast
http://brilliantatbreakfast.blogspot.com
"Only dull people are brilliant at Breakfast" -- Oscar Wilde
Speaking truth to power since 2004

is overrated I swear, pigs, dogs

a serious purge is needed in this congress

Been busy and also too snarly and hissy for polite company,
Maybe even too ornery for here ;)
Things are fine and the weather's gorgeous for a change.
Hope things are well with you.
Good to read you!
Byeeeeeee!

Comics (a couple are reposts)
Opus
Stinkerbell
Keef with another installment of Life's Little Victories

Warning: This video is preceded by an ad for big pharma. Ew...
Bateman: The voting machine -- a long step up from tyranny
Audio from Behind the Freedom Curtain (1957)

c-span 3 dropping meeting and going to c-span 2. Everything is mish mosh today!!!

Hi CC, Byeeee CC. Later!

That's all they are !

Push for Public Financing Of All Elections..Vote The Whores OUT !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

cspan 2 now?

CSpan 2

arssa is on now...let me hear what he gonna say

to wreck his radio career. i don't get it.

Yeah, like me!

I missed the show, 'cause it was on an hour earlier!

So now I hafta wait for the VOD...

he was going down on a sinking ship. he was thrown overboard due to his gravitas....

watch, he will come back even stronger

What ? McCain and Chuck Norris Didn't Get Them All Out ?

By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

WASHINGTON - After decades of denials, the Chinese have acknowledged burying an American prisoner of war in China, telling the U.S. that a teenage soldier captured in the Korean War died a week after he "became mentally ill," according to documents provided to The Associated Press.

China had long insisted that all POW questions were answered at the conclusion of the war in 1953 and that no Americans were moved to Chinese territory from North Korea. The little-known case of Army Sgt. Richard G. Desautels, of Shoreham, Vt., opens another chapter in this story and raises the possibility that new details concerning the fate of other POWs may eventually surface.

Chinese authorities gave Pentagon officials intriguing new details about Desautels in a March 2003 meeting in Beijing, saying they had found "a complete record of 9-10 pages" in classified archives.

Con't

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

While known to be a schmuck. Listens to Randi it seems.

asking Scotty if the spokes model for the whitehouse should be held to the standard of being fully truthful on punishment of criminal statement if proven to have lied while speaking for the whitehouse.

Sounds a lot like Randi's very good suggestion that all politicians who speak in their offical capacity at a podium with the seal of the president or senate etc...should be at all times "under oath".

I hope that his suggestion comes back to become a bill and then a law...could you imagine what that would be like?

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

he really is wonderful. i really enjoy listening to him, them. marc is great too. i'm beginning to have hope again, maybe with the merger there will be more room for these two.

Mergers never create more room. There will be less money and less competition.

what was i thinking

Oops. Too much hurry. Almost forgot I recorded the show.
These links will take you to a download page at MediaFire.
The number after the date is the bitrate.
(Sorry about the pop-up or pop-under advert.)

Maron v. Seder - June 20, 2008 -24.mp3 (9.3MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?lizmdbg1m2b

Maron v. Seder - June 20, 2008 -40.mp3 (15.5MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ymbmnbg02oi
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Later, Toni :)

I emailed my neighbor this morning to get his take on the FISA legislation and fortunately he is upset about it. He is running against Scott Garrett in the NJ 5th, just wondering if anyone had any good ideas for questions when I call him this afternoon. Thanks.

HOUSE PASSES SURVEILLANCE BILL 293-129
Bush gets exactly what he wanted (and even more than he hoped for, according to Republicans) with the House passing the surveillance bill. The "compromise" gives telecoms immunity and expands spying powers.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/new_fisa_law_passed.ph...

Exclusive: MoveOn To Close Its 527 In Response To Obama's Candidacy
By Greg Sargent - June 20, 2008, 12:05PM
MoveOn, the advocacy group supporting Barack Obama, has decided to permanently shutter its 527 operation, partly in response to the Illinois Senator's insistence that such groups should not spend on his behalf during the general election, I've learned from the group's spokesperson.

MoveOn's decision, which will dramatically impact the way it raises money on Obama's behalf, is yet another sign of how rapidly Obama is taking control of the apparatus that's gearing up on his behalf.

By shuttering its 527, MoveOn is effectively killing its ability to raise money in huge chunks from labor unions, foundations, and big donors who would give over $5,000. The decision doesn't mean MoveOn will stop spending on Obama's behalf. Instead it will raise money exclusively with its political action committee, whose average donation is below $50 and will even be raising money with things like bake sales starting this weekend.

To put this in perspective, MoveOn's 527 raised $20 million for the general election in 2004 -- and at least half of that came from donations over $5,000.

"This is an affirmation that we, like Senator Obama, believe that this election can be won by ordinary Americans giving small donations," MoveOn spokesperson Ilyse Hogue told me.

MoveOn's 527 has been dormant since 2005, but the group had held open the option of starting it up it for the 2008 election -- until Obama's success with small donors showed that huge sums could be raised without it.

The move could also make it tougher politically for John McCain and the GOP to benefit from 527s, which can raise money in unlimited sums, on his side. While he has generally disapproved of such activity, he recently said that he couldn't control negative ads by such groups.

"The hope is that Republicans will match this, so that the voices of ordinary Americans can drive this election," Hogue said.

Late Update: It should be noted that the group has not traditionally been driven by large donations during non-presidential race times. It has raised $122 million since it opened in 1998 -- and only 10% came in donations of over $5000. But during the 2004 race, of course, it was another story.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/moveon_to_close_...

I'm so pissed about this FISA Crap,

I'm about ready to Puke !

Did I mention our elected officals who voted for The FISA Bill are Whores !
I think I did somewhere's.......

Can't wait for Malloy tonight !

We can all have a Anger Fest !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I was push polled last night.
One of the questions was, was I a member of MoveOn.

OMG I hate neo-scum

since I won't be holding my breath for an entire VOD, esp. in light of the time change and the FISA vote and the McClellan hearing that might have limited the live viewership.

is a trator, helping the Chinese, and he hired Clinton Curtis to write the Diebold software.

In Roman font HERE.

they wont give me a break..cannot even blog properly today.....geez!

White House Invokes Executive Privilege -- Again
The House oversight committee was supposed to vote this morning on whether to hold EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson (and an OMB official) in contempt of Congress for refusal to comply with congressional subpoenas.

But the EPA and the White House have now invoked executive privilege, committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) just announced, so he's delaying the vote to assess the privilege claims.

Keep in mind that the EPA and White House have been stonewalling Waxman for months, but have waited until now to formally invoke executive privilege.

It's all part of the Bush Administration's overarching strategy for its last year in office: Delay. Delay. Delay.

--David Kurtz

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/waxman_i_havent_seen_a...

just say YES! Then blow in their face as you say "BOO"!

U.S. Says Israeli Exercise Seemed Directed at Iran
By MICHAEL R. GORDON and ERIC SCHMITT
WASHINGTON — Israel carried out a major military exercise earlier this month that American officials say appeared to be a rehearsal for a potential bombing attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Several American officials said the Israeli exercise appeared to be an effort to develop the military’s capacity to carry out long-range strikes and to demonstrate the seriousness with which Israel views Iran’s nuclear program.

More than 100 Israeli F-16 and F-15 fighters participated in the maneuvers, which were carried out over the eastern Mediterranean and over Greece during the first week of June, American officials said.

The exercise also included Israeli helicopters that could be used to rescue downed pilots. The helicopters and refueling tankers flew more than 900 miles, which is about the same distance between Israel and Iran’s uranium enrichment plant at Natanz, American officials said.

Israeli officials declined to discuss the details of the exercise. A spokesman for the Israeli military would say only that the country’s air force “regularly trains for various missions in order to confront and meet the challenges posed by the threats facing Israel.”

But the scope of the Israeli exercise virtually guaranteed that it would be noticed by American and other foreign intelligence agencies. A senior Pentagon official who has been briefed on the exercise, and who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the political delicacy of the matter, said the exercise appeared to serve multiple purposes.

One Israeli goal, the Pentagon official said, was to practice flight tactics, aerial refueling and all other details of a possible strike against Iran’s nuclear installations and its long-range conventional missiles.

A second, the official said, was to send a clear message to the United States and other countries that Israel was prepared to act militarily if diplomatic efforts to stop Iran from producing bomb-grade uranium continued to falter.

“They wanted us to know, they wanted the Europeans to know, and they wanted the Iranians to know,” the Pentagon official said. “There’s a lot of signaling going on at different levels.”

Several American officials said they did not believe that the Israeli government had concluded that it must attack Iran and did not think that such a strike was imminent.

more here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/washington/20iran.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=s...

Double Straight Talk?
Is John McCain saying one thing to white conservatives and another to Latinos on immigration? Jake Tapper talked to one attendee at McCain's recent meeting with Hispanic Republicans in Chicago who says he did.

--Josh Marshall

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/title----mcca-1.html

Ellsworth and Murtha voted for Telecom Immunity

Presidential Politics

The Green Party faces a problem — democracy. More specifically, how do you treat each person’s vote equally in a country where the two parties do their best to undermine participation of new parties?

Efforts to craft democracy in the Green Party’s presidential preference process have failed in large part because some states allow third parties to participate in tax-payer funded primary elections (as long as they meet reasonable requirements), while many other states put very high hurdles in front of third parties, effectively blocking their participation. Without being on the ballot, third parties are largely invisible.
...

... keep missing you..want to say HELLO :)

anyone have a link to how the house vote went down
on the FISA/telecom immunity ?
Been looking for a while now

Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." -- The President of the United States of America
Why have gasoline prices doubled in a year? Demand hasn't doubled. Supplies are the same. I have this horrible feeling -- having lived through the 2000 California electricity crisis -- that we're being gamed.

Back then, as now, we were told that the source of the problem was simple: A sudden -- but perfectly natural -- imbalance in supply and demand. And the solutions were simple too:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/david-vitter-has-a-new-fe_b_10...

look at this:
Fernando on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 1:46pm.

there is a link there.

ITMFA!

Democrats who voted for Telecom Immunity
Submitted by Fernando on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 1:46pm.
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thanks Fernando

I too was displeased with the way Teh Secret seemed to focus on material things..however...we do live in a world where material things (like cash), come in handy...that was how I justified it anyway..and if generally more people fight about money, and divorce over money, I can see why that could be a focus if the people wanted to expand the viewing base...

I have some more stuff to write but maybe when I get home...I don't have a lot of time here to pay close enough attention to the blog..

*

FERNANDO...thanks so much for the cspan link on your site this morning..that was the least choppy internet audio I've ever heard..what a convenient accident to have Scott crossed time-wise with the FISA thing..

Cute puppy pic yesterday... :)

impeachnow
Submitted by Fernando on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 2:12pm.
look at this:
Fernando on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 1:46pm.

there is a link there.

ITMFA!
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?

they made a media circus with Scott while they pulled our collective pants down and had their way with our ass' using FISA.

I am so pissed that I set up a recurring payment today to Cindy Sheehan to help her defeat Nancy Pelosi.

Impeach The Mother Fucker Already!

wanna try cleaning up the lounge (living room)

not only accused Rove of being a persistent liar, but also accused him of perjury just now...

oh.... ok maybe you misread my
"guess i was looking in the wrong place"
I was looking over at thomas.loc.gov
for the past 30 minutes
does that clear it up?

ITMFA is directed at Nancy Pelosi, a call to impeach and meant to honor your nic. What did you mean about .loc.gov?

Just checked in and found I missed the vodcast-

Trafficking in Persons Report
for 2008

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/3180

Scotty's throwing the next layer of necessary Collateral Damage under the bus to save King George?

I hope he has a good lawyer.

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Cheney's Handwritten Notes Implicate Bush in Plame Affair
By Jason Leopold
January 31, 2007

pubrecord.org/cheneys-handwritten-notes-implicate-bush-in-plame-affairItemid=8
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5ux6l6

but i can't comment on everyone in the group...

(scooty being asked about bush, cheney, and card, says he thinks bush and card thought they were being truthful)

so he can assume Card was lied to also. And George is still Scott's butt buddy so.....

Didn't Andy Card go with Gonzo to Ashcrofts hospital room?

things that make you go hmmmm

too long an explanantion
I guess I'm being sensitive
after a good slap down yesterday
just glad i din't get slapped down
again -thanks

The Shrub had to declassify the information about Plame before it could be leaked.

He knew, maybe Cheney forced him, coerced him, but shrub knew.

the grass roots effort on the net to impeach the President? I thought we had. It's a big campaign.

just glad it didn't mean
Its right in front of you MuthaFukinAhole :)

it's possible that George did not but was presented with the fact that Dick Cheney had already implicated Rove and Libby and Armitage. He had a choice to say that he authorized it to McClellan in exchange for implicating just Libby while protecting Rove.

That could be one scenario where Darth Cheney did it behind George's back then George assumed the liability to keep his gaggle of crooks on the line.

Conyers understatement of the year, "It's amazing how much you remember."

lol

Scotty Re run at 8pm

hahahahahaha.... Hell no, it doesn't.

Expect a whole lotta ugly from a never ending parade of stupid. - Motormouth Maybelle (Hairspray)

Two days ago, the Government Accountability Office upheld Boeing's protest of a $35 billion Air Force tanker contract awarded to Northrop Grumman Corp. and Airbus parent European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. ("EADS"), and recommended that the service hold a new competition.

To understand the significance of this, let me take you back almost four months (or, for those of you observing Obama Daylight Time, roughly the end of the 11-state winning streak that put him ahead for good in the Democratic race).

On February 29, 2008, Boeing, one of the world’s largest aerospace manufacturers, lost the huge tanker contract to build 179 air-to-air refueling tankers for the Air Force. Boeing had been supplying refueling tankers to the Air Force for nearly 50 years and was widely expected to win the deal.

Instead, the tanker award went to EADS/Northrop Grumman, otherwise known as Airbus, Boeing’s largest competitor worldwide.

The Air Force decision received scathing reactions from both policy makers and employees of Boeing, all of whom regarded Boeing’s bid to be superior in quality and cost.

...

Not only did McCain help put the pressure on the Air Force to change the rules more favorably to EADS/Northrop Grumman mid-stream, the co-chairman of his presidential campaign and other campaign lobbyists and advisers lobbied for the Europeans to win the tanker deal. McCain himself sent letters urging the Defense Department, in evaluating the tanker bids, not to consider the significance of a separate United States-Airbus trade dispute. In typical McCain fashion, he denied having anything to do with the contract despite these facts.

(I'm going to send this when it hits 50 comments. - promoted by Matt Stoller)

I was writing an email to Steny Hoyer's Chief of Staff to try to let him know how much rage there is out there about his boss's actions around capitulating on the FISA issue, but I realized that my words are probably less powerful than yours. I'm just one person, so he has no reason to believe me except as someone engaged in hyperbole around a contentious issue.
So instead, please put your comments about FISA and Hoyer in this thread, and I will send it onward. Please keep in mind that this will be sent to Hoyer's office, so I will delete off-topic or especially rude comments. If you support Hoyer, let him know that. If not, let him know that. And if you are a donor or volunteer for Democrats who won in 2006, mention it, as that will help him understand why he should consider listening.

Can't believe I missed not only Sam and Marc but also the Mclellan testimony! Sheesh.

Whoa. Talk about losing your base. Even Fox News' viewers thinks he sucks ass.

In a Fox Poll, only 29% approve of the job Bush is doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYygQcSiW2M

This is Adrienne Christian, her new chief of staff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8EtHQXeRQw

And here's Jared, her son.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LekzU8PVg2E

APNewsBreak: US asks to rewrite detainee evidence

APNewsBreak: US asks to rewrite evidence against Guantanamo detainees ahead of court review

The Bush administration wants to rewrite the official evidence against Guantanamo Bay detainees, allowing it to shore up its cases before they come under scrutiny by civilian judges for the first time.

The government has stood behind the evidence for years. Military review boards relied on it to justify holding hundreds of prisoners indefinitely without charge. Justice Department attorneys said it was thoroughly and fairly reviewed.

Now that federal judges are about to review the evidence, however, the government says it needs to make changes.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/06/us_asks_to_rewrite_detainee_ev...

CHICAGO — Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama's campaign announced Friday that he will campaign with former rival Hillary Rodham Clinton next week, a step toward unifying a fractured Democratic Party after a bruising primary fight.

Obama's campaign said in a brief e-mail that said the two senators and former opponents will campaign together for the first time on Friday, June 27, and more details would be forthcoming.

A 22-year-old munitions dealer and others in his Miami Beach company were arrested on charges of selling prohibited Chinese weaponry to the U.S. government to supply allied forces in Afghanistan, according to law enforcement officials.

Efraim Diveroli, president of AEY Inc., and three other employees were arrested Thursday night and Friday morning -- accused of conspiring to misrepresent the types of munitions they sold to the U.S. Department of Defense as part of a $300 million Army weapons contract, officials said.

Diveroli and the others are charged with violating the Arms Export Control Act stemming from an investigation that began earlier this year by the Pentagon and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking_news/story/577409.html

The least popular, most lawless president in American history took to the Rose Garden today to thank congressional Democrats for having unprotected political sex with him. For caving -- not compromising, but totally capitulating -- on war funding and and telecom immunity, Nancy Pelosi, Stenny Hoyer and the blue dogs they lie down with have been rewarded with the same herpetic embrace that is turning John McCain into a Republican cootie incubator.

The Democrats' motive, of course, is mixed; one part fear of losing telecom campaign contributions, one part fear of being called terrorist-lovers, appeasers and similar bad names by Republican crooks, liars and smear-merchants in the coming campaign. The irony, of course, is that even though Democrats gave Bush and Cheney the very barebacking they wanted, the Republicans are already calling Democrats, and will continue to call them in the fall, America-haters, while the phone companies, having nowhere else to go to rent a congressional majority, would have continued to fatten Democratic coffers anyway.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/business/21royalty.html
Suits Say U.S. Impeded Audits for Oil Leases

By EDMUND L. ANDREWS
Published: September 21, 2006

WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 — Four government auditors who monitor leases for oil and gas on federal property say the Interior Department suppressed their efforts to recover millions of dollars from companies they said were cheating the government.
[...]
By any measure, the Interior Department under President Bush has placed top priority on increasing oil and gas production in the United States. Under its business-friendly agenda, the department has increased incentives for drilling in risky areas, has speeded approvals for drilling applications and has campaigned to open more coastal areas for oil exploration.

Lawyers who have specialized in lawsuits under the False Claims Act said they had never seen a group of government investigators use the law against their own agency.
[...]

much more at link

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Poppy said,
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5oyb3x
.nytimes.com
1988
[...]

''I was one of the pioneers in the equipment end of offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, and I know it can be done safely,'' said Mr. Bush, who worked in the oil business in Texas for 20 years. ''But there are other important considerations - tourism and marine life and aesthetics - and in some extraordinarily sensitive areas, those considerations may prevail until technology moves forward.'' Push for Alternative Fuels

Saying it is important to ''strengthen the overall energy base of this country and protect the environment at the same time,'' Mr. Bush stressed the need to explore ''alternative fuels.''

''In the long run,'' he said, ''alternative fuels like methanol can reduce the pressure to drill in environmentally sensitive areas, just as they can reduce our dependence on foreign oil.''

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Frank Opposes Obama-Nunn Ticket
Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) told the Rothenberg Political Report that he "would have a hard time voting for the [Democratic] ticket" if Sen. Barack Obama picks former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-GA) as his vice-presidential running-mate.

Frank says he made his position clear to the people vetting Obama's potential vice presidential nominees.

"The Massachusetts Democrat cites a number of examples of what he calls Nunn's "real record of hostility" toward gays, placing greatest emphasis on Nunn's September 1996 vote against the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which failed in the Senate by a single vote."

http://rothenbergpoliticalreport.blogspot.com/2008/06/barney-frank-defin...

Baby Boomers Could Be Key Swing Vote
Charlie Cook says Baby Boomers may decide the next presidential election -- a generation that came of political age during the "disappointing" Carter term and "popular" Reagan years.

"It is often said that Reagan drew a whole generation into the Republican Party. And some observers wonder whether George W. Bush may have driven another generation away. If this is true, Barack Obama, meet Ronald Reagan, your real opponent."

Key statistic from Cook's latest poll: Obama is losing white voters born between 1944 and 1958 -- pretty much the lion's share of the Baby Boomers -- by 18 percentage points.

http://www.cookpolitical.com/poll/default.php

Bush Approval Sinks Again
According to a new American Research Group poll, just 25% of Americans approve of the way President Bush is handling his job and 71% disapprove. When it comes to Bush's handling of the economy, 23% approve and 73% disapprove.

Bush's overall job approval has dropped from 28% in May as Republicans and independents are less apt to say they approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president. Among Republicans, just 61% approve of the way Bush is handling his job, down from 70% in May.

Key finding: 55% say they believe their household financial situations are getting worse while only 4% say their household financial situations are getting better.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

Obama's choice to limit his fundraising to gobbling up all the individual contributions -- similar to Hillary Clinton's lonnnng Primary campaign where she kept milking her progressive donors -- is disturbing BECAUSE:

1. It takes funds out of the limited pool of donor funds so that local and state Democratic and progressive Candidates will get fewer, smaller donations -- meaning we may not be able to get that Dem/Independent/progressive majority in the House and Senate which will be needed to accomplish anything if Obama succeeds in being elected!

Just as the drama of the prolonged primary season turned attention from local races and hurt a number of local progressive races, making it hard to raise needed funds, this choice by Obama also may be lethal for local and state Dems.

2. We must ask -- What will happen to the corporate millions that might have gone to Obama? Will they now be used for trying to elect Republicans?

3. When individuals spend their limited contributions on supporting Barack Obama, that is many, many millions that could/would otherwise go to progressive institutions for researching and collecting data, educating the public and lobbying the government -- such as human rights advocates, unions, environmental organizations, reproductive freedom advocates.

4. Can Obama rely on the individual donor pool consistently providing him the money he requires? The shrinking of the U.S. dollar, inflation, the rising fuel/energy costs how NO sign of slowing down. Will The People have the dollars to donate which Obama expects to get, especially when one observes The People have already given money -- that being the costly long primary, AND the creation of the federal program of Public Campaign Funding!

5. Obama had a unique opportunity to PROVE his campaign sloganeering about 'change' means something by choosing a reform method of campaign funding. He turned his back on that opportuntiy.

5. One can only wonder in this age of Bush Crimes, if the Public Campaign Funding account is not used for this election, will Bush and his gang of thieves spread throughout the government, allow those funds to still be there for other elections? (Sorry, just had to mention this; I know it is pure fearful distrust, but I felt impelled to include it.)

Cafferty is asking the question now, "Should Obama opt out of financing?"

You should email him.

When Rep. Lamar Smith used the hearing to try to dismiss Scott McClellan's testimony -- saying it wasn't worth asking McClellan any questions among other insults -- he wasted a number of minutes of MY time; MULTIPLY THAT by the millions who witnessed his obstructionism, that is a LOT OF TIME!

Is it okay to detest obstructionists like Rep. Lamar Smith? (And does he wear a toupee?) Eww. I wonder who put him up to that or if he did it on his own....

a lot of work ahead of me....will start cleaning them and packing tomorrow...im so happy!!

Denial of Care: Is This What It Means to Support Our Troops?

By Donna Smith, American SiCKO, communications specialist for the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee

This isn’t such a day of honor for Michael Baranik of Jennings, LA. His nation doesn’t seem very grateful for his service. He is dying. And he is being denied the medical care that could save his life.

Here’s what Michael wrote in as he told his story on the guaranteedhealthcare.org website: “In January 2007, on the worst day of my life, I sat in a doctor's office and was told I had terminal cancer, and then in the next breath he told me my insurance was not good enough to cover reimbursement of the chemotherapy.

“Now I am a retired military veteran, I spent 24 years in the United States Navy, I served my country for 24 years, now my country is giving up on me.”

Many Americans think that veterans always have access to quality healthcare through the Veterans Administration system. Many Americans think that when our leaders espouse loyalty and admiration for our military personnel that it means these men and women are adequately taken care of as the heroes we all know they must be on our behalf when our nation calls. But as Michael tells us, quality care for our service men and women is often not the reality.

“I have no choice of my insurance. I thought my military insurance was good coverage and was accepted by most doctors. What I found out was most doctors are not accepting military insurance. I had to go and beg doctors to give me a chance to live,” Michael wrote.

He had to beg. A 24-year veteran of the United State Navy was left begging for care. Not exactly the picture of honor and glory we paint as we place wreaths at the Tomb of the Unknowns or place flags on every corner. Michael begged.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/blog/2008/06/denial-of-care-is-this-wh...

I Am The Walrus, mp3

Report: Ohio science teacher burned cross on kids' arms

An outside investigation has found that an Ohio public school teacher taught creationism in his science class and used a device to burn the image of a cross on students' arms.

One family filed a federal lawsuit against Mount Vernon Middle School teacher John Freshwater and the school district last week, saying their child was left with a burn mark for three or four weeks.

The report also says Freshwater was insubordinate in failing to remove a Bible and other religious materials from his classroom.

The findings released Thursday by consulting firm H.R. On Call Inc. were to be discussed Friday at a school board meeting.

"Eighth-graders who were taught by John Freshwater frequently had to be re-taught in high school what they were supposed to have learned in Freshwater’s class, according to outside investigators hired by the district," Alayna DeMartini reports for The Columbus Dispatch. "For 11 years, other teachers in the school district and people in the community complained about Freshwater preaching his Christian beliefs in class and slamming scientific theories, a school administrator told investigators."

Further excepts from Columbus Dispatch article:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Report_Ohio_teacher_burned_cross_on_0620.h...

***is on Randi Rhodes.***
Please listen to this man!!

Why you ask, let me tell you why guy.
new
Submitted by Brett on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 4:38pm.
This is my hometown, the place Kelly and I would have raised our child Bonnie Grace. What kind of a father would I be if I where to just bitch on a blog about the problems in America and then run away and do nothing to change things.

It is very easy the Bitch on a blog about how fucked up things are in America. Doing something about it is hard.

Fernando you shocked me with your sadly predictable post.
You need to read the rest of the story to fully grasp what I am trying to do to effect REAL CHANGE in my hometown.
I had to stop yesterday at an early point in the first chapter of the story and I realize it could be misleading to readers of this work in progress. I am not saying that all white people in my town are goose-stepping crossburners. Far from it. I'm out to crush the few who are. Those fuckers have too much influence and that WILL come to a stop. As Sam Seder has often said, make them radioactive, I plan to make those motherfuckers glow green in the dark!

I sit here in the nice public library next to a beautiful Afican-American child who is of the age Bonnie would have been. I'm doing this for that child, and all like her. These children are at a point in there intellectual development where they grasp the concept of right and wrong better than many of us "adults". This is the point in time I would have had to explain to Bonnie that there is something about her hometown that we all need to be profoundly ashamed of. The other, many things to be proud of here are overshadowed by this horrible truth that won't go away unless someone stands up and makes it go away.

You guys need to know that we here in Crowley are America, as much as any other place. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowley,_Louisiana

I need help to make this happen. I don't really want my town to be known as David Dukeville but unless things change for the better I'm prepared to sear that image into the American psyche' and that would be bad for business in Crowley. Others before me have tried and failed to make this issue of the whites only, good old boys club in Crowley a priority that everyone needs to take seriously.

I know the board of directors of the Crowley Town Club are a pack of fucking morons, because they hired ME to work there. Smooth move.

I have to go for now. I expected to write more of the story today, but have run out of time.

Please people understand how difficult this really is for me. I have to step on many toes, including those of good people who are on the side of the angels, yet are parallized from do anything about this because of the ramifications their familys and/or business could face as long as the good old boy G.O.P. network call the shots in this city. I'm going to speak truth to power and I could die just because I tryed. Would Bonnie be proud of daddy?
That's not for me to judge.

Goodnight my friends,
BRETT SCHNEIDER
Voting Citizen of Crowley Louisiana

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Is it headline news or CNNtv? (I'm not near a TV.)

Situation Room on CNN

The Cafferty File.

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cnn.com/caffertyfile

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At her site

http://airamerica.com/maddow/blog/2008/jun/20/war-oil-rachel-countdown-k...

and at youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X61M802yTd8

Has anybody put a link to the Krugman piece yet?

Cyber applause for Rachel!

(Gee, I wish I could hear Sam cover this stuff, too, as it unfolds! Can't he do a special Camcast on topics soon?)

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