SEDER v MARON thurs 10 am est

about Bosnia!

When she lied about Bosnia she was reading from notes! From prepared remarks.

pointing out that these issues being raised by the questions are just a distraction.

Now they are bringing up the flag pin issue!

Shit this debate is demeaning.

Some say you are a cannible. It's all over the net. How do answer these charges

This is so infuriating!

STFU George S.

there are two threads going on...I had to turn off the debate before I threw my laptop across the room...TOTAL DRIVEL

angry at George! Yay!!

Barack is calling out George S.

issue and running with it!

IDIOT

Now Hillary is doing it...

KOS warned about this horse shit q. coming up. Clearly the absolute bottom of the barrel.
Hillary chimes in of course. But her husband freed the "bombers."

!

"horse shit" that's the term I was looking for.

Wow

Yanks 7 Sox 3 - bottom of the 4th

to post about it in the old thread....and thus "I" do not find out about the new threads for 2 hours.

Ya know...its not nice to piss off....the bar owner....

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

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hillary's awful, the two moderators, i don't know who they are but they are totally corrupt and full of shit, i'm talking about george i guess, the other one i don't know, i just tuned in the last five minutes and that's enough to get my blood up

totally fucked up questions, boring, repetitive, just going on with the same crap

obama seems tired - it must be so tiresome to have to rebut the same effing stupid questions over and over

i almost wish he would lose and start telling these fuckers off - channeling malloy

Did you all notice that after introducing Hillary they turned the camera on Chelsea who had a spotlight on her and she was surrounded by African Americans!

After introducing Obama they showed the audience and it was just a shot of the audience, no one was spotlighted.

worked for Clintons. Then this is the Disney Channel. And Charlie Gibson. What else would you get?

i never need to be directed - i just log in to the home site when i open up and click on the newest thread

that movie Network and Dr. Strangelove combined

Chelsea looked nice. Very professional imo.

military personnel in Iraq! Gag.

though - i just joined the party myself and I am already so angry at this crap i am watching on the tv

Nando??

government needs to step up to the plate shows a real lack of understanding of what the situation is in Iraq. The government, Malaki, is someone put into power by Bush et al.

Looks can be deceiving!

my opinion mhappenow. Sorry, I got lazy.

Tarantula-Hawk for war!

I have both threads open. This one and the last one and I am going back and forth. Can we just post on the other thread that we are here now?

from the other thread:

Okay...
Submitted by GBC on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 8:48pm.
Hillary's line that the Repubs should just apologize for the Bush admin. and not run anybody this year was pretty damn funny.

I still won't vote for the bee-yotch.

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Submitted by toniD on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 8:53pm.
I missed that. But I am sure it will be all over the internet later and tomorrow and on all the news.

By the way, at 9PM Kieth O will have a special run down on the debate.

use it

the best protector of israel

why don't they point out that israel has nuclear weapons and is perfectly capable to defend itself

this makes me sick

and i am still very depressed over the italian elections

i can't take this

In My Opinion

sometimes i like to go to an old thread, two or three down to read things that i have missed

that's why i sometimes make my comments so late after the people i'm responding to have logged out, but that's not a big deal - it's part of life on the blog

Submitted by toniD on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 9:01pm.
...Can we just post on the other thread that we are here now?
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toniD,
I think that you have advised me to post on one thread or the other but your sentence above has me completely befuddled.

..before the old thread got full was because he's jumped into the future with Marc where the old thread was already full.

Stoopid time-space-continuum. (Did I spell it right 'Nando?)
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Tell him how he appreciated the crowd not wanting him to go off the stage on the Tuesday. Crowd loved him.
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i'm not beyond shameless self-promotion. visit punditfight.com to see Sam battle it out with the rest of the pundits. left and right!

and honest.

That Gibson fella might as well say "Why do you want to raise my taxes?". Poor guy. What's he make 10, 12 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS A YEAR?!?!?

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Submitted by toniD on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 9:01pm.
...Can we just post on the other thread that we are here now?
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I figured it out. You are suggesting that we (someone) should post a comment on the other thread stating that there is more activity on the newest thread.

Right?

(Sometimes I need a theatrical troupe to act out posts written in conversational English.)

thanks tonideeee....

I was lost on the last thread.

Hillary - yes, Barack can be elected. Wight wright wright. (Praise McCain for his service) Wright needs to be further explored ...

Obama - can u guys ask a serious fucking question please?

that's about all i missed I guess.

But Hill's jab at the Republicans was a goodie, I'll give her that.

Why are we so fucking worried about people who make a quarter of a million dollars a year?

I made 32,000 before I lost my job. What about me?

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payroll tax - what bs - alleging firefighters and teachers

and that charlie guy keeps hammering about taxes on capital

these filthy capitalist pundits they can never be objective they are representing their class only

Glad you saw it GBC!

Good Crank!!
You figured out my cryptic post.

i don't like her

and three people clapped. fuck i can't wait for this to end

because he doesn't play their bullshit games.

They are scared to death he may become president.

calm yourself.... gosh.

Look at if from the drama perspective. This election makes the OJ trail look like a PTA meeting.

I forgot the Annie Oakly segment has to come, since today was the V. Tech massacre

Hillary is? She's wouldn't do half of what she says and what she is saying doesn't help the middle class.

Besides, it's the congress that will do all the work if we can get a true majority.

had missed this part...

Hillary has the audacity to say it was the young republicans that jumped on the bitter comment first? So what? That gives YOU the right to run roughshod with it Hillary?

Just proves that she's using the republican playbook against her own party's opponent and that is just FINE with her.

That bitch will NEVER get my vote. She IS a republican, thru and thru.

jeeeez, don't these guys have any imagination at all?

in the media ad nauseam already over and over

I'm gonna go watch my dogs piss on the neighbors grass. It's be more enlightening than this can o' spam.

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Does it matter what she says? Who believes a word out of her?

Submitted by toniD on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 9:17pm.
...Good Crank!!
You figured out my cryptic post.
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You'd think that I could easily translate toniD into English by now. I must be slippin'.

They are covering topics the public has heard a lot of and the commenter is asking them to respond to the controversies extemporaneously.

I figured it would be an MSM sponsored Obama gangbang, but I did not expect it to be this bad.

Iran, Iran, Iran...OMG Hillary is just a flat out NeoCon isn't she.

Screw this, I'm going back to the Rangers-Devils debate.

that the moderators have become more upset with Obama's answers than with Hillary?

I was so bored with bittergate, I actually listen to Lionel for an hour an a half. Till I turned it off, Lionel was yacking away about pro-wrestling. I'm serious. This is what AAR has come to. Bring back Jerry Springer!

Submitted by mire on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 9:26pm.
why don't they talk about something that hasn't been repeated in the media ad nauseam already over and over
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Here is the lowdown:

The media reports something. Then the media reports that it reported something. Then the media reports that the media is discussing the stuff that the media reported on reporting on.

Then a debate rolls around, so the media asks questions about the stuff that the media reported on reporting on after it reported that it reported something that it originally reported.

Got it?

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would start using some bad language to these assholes that are questioning them with these stupid stuff

even after they answer their questions, these boneheads continue to repeat the same slanted question over and over -i know i wouldn't be able to keep my cool under those circumstances and would tell them to f off with that line of questioning

that's why i could never run for president i guess

so I can tune into Malloy.

That's Hillary responding to the Bosnia flap.

Translation: I LIED MY ASS OFF TO MAKE ME SOUND EXPERIENCED.

lol

Clinton emphatically says Obama can win White House By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
11 minutes ago

PHILADELPHIA - Hillary Rodham Clinton said emphatically Wednesday night that Barack Obama can win the White House this fall, undercutting her efforts to deny him the nomination by suggesting he would lead the party to defeat.

"Yes, yes, yes," she said when pressed about Obama's electability during a campaign debate six days before the Pennsylvania primary.

Asked a similar question about Clinton, Obama said "Absolutely and I've said so before" — a not-so-subtle response to suggestions from his rival that he could not defeat Republican Sen. John McCain.

In a 90-minute debate, both rivals pledged not to raise taxes on individuals making less than $200,000, and said they would respond forcefully if Iran obtains nuclear weapons and uses them against Israel.

"An attack on Israel would incur massive retaliation by the United States," said Clinton.

Obama said, "The U.S. would take appropriate action."

In a debate that moved swiftly between politics and policy, Clinton also issued a first-ever public apology for having claimed erroneously that she landed in Bosnia under sniper fire in 1996 as first lady.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_debate_20

of course, of the three left. He is the only one that is even a slight threat to O'Really's white corporate power structure. CNN started bittergate Friday afternoon ("we have breaking news, Obama openned his mouth.") People need to add two plus two. One candidate is hated by the corpoate media and one isn't.

seder v. maron all over the nova m message boards.....they love sam and marc over there

and you thought my post was cryptic?

I had to read that twice!

Guesses?

foreign policy - i am sure malloy will have something to say about that

don't you sometimes wish that both obama and hillary
Submitted by mire on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 9:35pm.
would start using some bad language to these assholes that are questioning them with these stupid stuff
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Whatever happened to Andrew Dice Clay? Did an angry dyke dispatch him in an alley after a midnight show?

A debate between a black man and a white woman would be riveting if he were moderator.

in otherwords...the media is a complete circle...jerk

lets see.....after shave or cologne?

Now there's a phrase I seldom use!

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i don't know how you can find all the time and energy - i can barely keep up with one blog and sporadically at best

for the Clintons. Don't think they parted on good terms though.

Keith Olbermann will have a debate rundown just after the debate

Final q
Submitted by ghettodefender on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 9:42pm.
Guesses?
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If you were an oak tree, would you be a black oak or a white oak?

fascinating debate!

I am a part time worker and am totally obsessed with this shit and I love Sam

I assembled my new patio furniture.

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is on a rampage!

...and told them to sit on a bunch of flag lapel pins.

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I mean like now!
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Ha!

I found tonight very constructive..
Submitted by maggiesboy on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 9:49pm.
I assembled my new patio furniture.
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I'd ask if a table with an umbrella hole is part of the set...but I don't really want to know.

Ayersgate

Tapper said Hillary was relentless in making the point that there are still a lot of unanswered questions about Obama. He continued Obama TRIED to say we need to get beyond this.
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I feel like I was just transported into another reality.
My comment, is that Obama is up against so much entrenched power in the media it's a wonder he has been able to do as well as he has.

I filled a bottle of water from the tap there. I plan to throw it on Hartmann-- sort of like holy water on a vampire.

I kid.

www.sigzone.blogspot.com

please

i am sorry i don't get keith olbermann - i don't have cable boohooo

ahahahahah crank - did you hear charlie gibson say that they will be talking about this show later tonight and tomorrow morning on good morning america

Hillary And Obama Spar Over . . . Weather Underground?
It seems ABC is working hard to prove it can field debate moderators who bow to no one in their capacity for inanity, not even Tim Russert.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/hillary_and_obam...

like why didn't he reject rev wright, and what's up with bitter, and what's up with this lapel pin, why don't you love america mr. obama bin laden

such mental giants these so called journalists and commenters are

George Stephanopoulos and James Carville ran Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign. He's one of the two main subjects of the "War Room" documentary about that campaign, and he's widely believed to have inspired the Henry Burton character who is the protagonist of Joe Klein's "Primary Colors". When Clinton reached the White House, Stephanopoulos served as communications director and conducted briefings of the White House press corps, even though Dee Dee Myers was the actual press secretary.

Given the depth of Stephanopoulos' experience in shaping Bill Clinton's public image, appointing him as a moderator in a debate including Hillary Clinton is an egregious violation of balance. CNN sidelined Stephanopoulos' "War Room" partner James Carville due to his conflict of interest. What's ABC's problem

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/16/13329/3501/457/496866

Submitted by mire on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 10:00pm.
ahahahahah crank - did you hear charlie gibson say that they will be talking about this show later tonight and tomorrow morning on good morning america
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They will be reporting on the debate questions which were previously reported as having been reported on before the media discussion about reporting...wait, I got lost. Let me start over.

Kos Diary
http://tinyurl.com/4u9lhf

Just a table a chair. That Adirondack stuff from the "bean". My bday prez to myself. I gave my old stuff (with the umbrella hole ;-) to the new kids who live behind me.
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"Given the historically poor quality of the questions tonight, I'm not going to put up the standard post-debate poll about who won. The answer is that democracy and the American people lost. I suppose if ABC sold some ads, they'll feel like they won."
http://tinyurl.com/5wgsgv

there was a new thread.....
I'm thinking to myself...
"self - its pretty slow on the
old blog tonight"
Then I realized that there probably is a
NEW THEAD. Damn..

So I just got back.
And I didnt watch the Disney debate because I knew that it would just make my headache worse.

But as for the threads situation, I was in the thread from back around 6:30PM and I kept refreshing and there were no posts...then I got distracted and when I came back there was no post about a new thread...and I looked up that thread just to make sure I didn't miss it....

Then I went to the home page and found 2 new threads and no one had told me about either of them....that is how I didn't know about the new threads.

And I forgot to give the hotel a shopping list in time for them to go get the cat food so I had to go get it so I would not have unhappy babies tomorrow morning and I would be able to be here for S and M at 10AM.

From reading the comments @ the Disney debate I am glad I didn't watch it. But if I had known about the threads I would have opened the bar for those of you who toughed it out. However, if the bartender did open the bar thats A-OK with me. Dunno how you all watched it to begin with.

I only watch the Disney channel on regular TV for 1 specific program and 1 or 2 special programming events that are not shown anywhere else... I boycott the channel for everything else.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Malloy cooking tonite!

This reminds me of a Mr. Bait on this blog, who responds to posts from a particular idiotic blogger, expecting a rational debate about why the sky is not green.

Really? He's talking about Italian recipes?

have'nt watched TV since the late 60's.

can't figure out why people bother for anything other than a few specials.

Carry on
Love is coming
Love is coming to us all

Good bloggin' good people.

g'nite.

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What did Malloy say about talent leaving ?
*crosses fingers*

One election at a time...

he's cooking Pasta Fajool for fools.

Malloy just made a pitch for joining Nova M.

He said it will help make sure they stay on the air AND make room for new talent as it leaves AA (Sam??)

He said you can pay $10 month.

I've noticed that when there is a 3 hour difference between posts, a new thread is launched, and I'm responding to empty air.

got me, i just tuned in.

I thought Malloy was saying that subscribing to NovaM will help them stay on the air AND help to make room for new talent as it leaves AA.

Thanks. I got buffer probs.

One election at a time...

During Dem debate, ABC's Gibson suggested middle-class families would be hurt by proposed rollback of Bush tax cuts
Summary: During the ABC News-Facebook debate, moderator Charlie Gibson suggested that the Democratic presidential candidates' proposals to roll back or let some of President Bush's tax cuts expire would affect middle-class families, adding, "If you take a family of two professors here at St. Anselm, they're going to be in the $200,000 category that you're talking about lifting the taxes on." According to the U.S. Census, however, the median income for a U.S. household is $48,451, and the mean household income is $65,527; and only 3.4 percent of U.S. households have an income of $200,000 or more.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801060004

BTW, I have been following your lead with the Animal Rescue and posting the link at the boards I frequent.

That signature link is an ingenious way to occasionally remind people.

Sometimes I don't know if I'm
going or coming or going again.
I have so much inside of my
little head.

Thanks again....:)

Malloy is on FIRE tonight & very, very funny LOL

that is very cool of you to post that.
Good thoughts & tidings your way! :)

Yes when there is a 3 hour difference I notice too.
But I didn't notice that 3 hour difference til 3 hours passed... it was within the 10 -15 min of thread changing that I am speaking about... And my point is about how we need to make sure to be inclusive of ALL Sederistas - not just the ones who are old hands, but newbies as well. There has been some tension on the blog here lately with all that has happened and I do not want new people coming here looking for Sam, to feel welcomed and embraced by the community...which is why I am making a point about noting that even I felt left behind, when I know tht it was not intentional.

this is not an attack on you or your comment - I know you meant no more than snark which I appreciate. But there is a larger issue here and we need to remember the big picture.

Neferkitti
new
Submitted by Exhausted Blogger on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 10:31pm.
I've noticed that when there is a 3 hour difference between posts, a new thread is launched, and I'm responding to empty air.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

I left you a post on the last blog...
It said "THANK YOU for your knowledge -
I do appreciate it."
Thanks again :)

OH, THE INANITY!
ABC hustles hard to win the award for most substance-free debate of the election.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/04/clinton_emphatically_says_obam...

I am saving upo for my next road rage....

Buffer problems...Don't they make a cream for that PB?
Submitted by cent on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 10:38pm.

Cent, What brand do you use?

Hey...

feed your brain and the world at the same time.

http://www.freerice.com/index.php
For each word you get right, we donate 20 grains of rice to the United Nations World Food Program.

using the $10 month option.

I hope it will help in raising money that could help bring Sam to NovaM.

Disastrous Debate reprise
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 4/16/2008 10:09:00 PM ET · Link
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Wow. What the hell was that? Seriously, I'm a bit stunned. The level of discourse has reached a new low -- a very new low. To be clear, I don't think the debate was a disaster for Obama. He did fine. I think it was a disaster for our political system.

It was the worst debate ever. Gibson and Stephanopoulos were horrible. The questions were literally right out of right wing talk radio. Atrios provides an opportunity for action:
Complain about this atrocity.

Main ABC switchboard: 212-456-7777
Comment via the ABC Web site here
And, for Hillary Clinton to get so giddy about the Wright question was really just sad. She was the official purveyor of fringe talking points. Shockingly so. And, she seemed to enjoy it. There's a reason people think Clinton is dishonest as we saw today in the findings of the Washington Post-ABC News poll. She's not only in this to win, she's in it to win dirty -- and to destroy Obama. She invoked Louis Farrakhan tonight for no reason -- just to say it. Give me a break. Throughout this campaign, Clinton has pursued GOP attacks against Obama. He has not gone there against her.

Jacki: Ok, first off, I went to Facebook to see what people were saying there since ABC promoted it. Seems everyone there agrees with us here. This debate was just horrible. Too much time wasted on useless nonsense. From a media perspective, I am not sure why Stephanopoulos was in the mix at all. He didn't add much, and if anything, his history with the Clintons had the potential to take something away. I thought Gibson was especially rough on Obama, and I think ABC did not do themselves any good with this debate. If I weren't liveblogging, I would have switched to AI.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/disastrous-debate-reprise.html