Seder V Maron at 11am

SammYCam in effect here (lg) and here (small) small gives most users better stability

Morning Sam

You will have a bit of competition this morning. Barack is about to speak in Philly.

boo on you fernando

i wanted to be frist

Pat Buchanan

A piece of shit.

the speach

Obama Race Speech: Read The Full Text

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama
"A More Perfect Union"
Constitution Center
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

"We the people, in order to form a more perfect union."

Two hundred and twenty one years ago, in a hall that still stands across the street, a group of men gathered and, with these simple words, launched America's improbable experiment in democracy. Farmers and scholars; statesmen and patriots who had traveled across an ocean to escape tyranny and persecution finally made real their declaration of independence at a Philadelphia convention that lasted through the spring of 1787.

The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by this nation's original sin of slavery, a question that divided the colonies and brought the convention to a stalemate until the founders chose to allow the slave trade to continue for at least twenty more years, and to leave any final resolution to future generations.

Of course, the answer to the slavery question was already embedded within our Constitution - a Constitution that had at is very core the ideal of equal citizenship under the law; a Constitution that promised its people liberty, and justice, and a union that could be and should be perfected over time.

And yet words on a parchment would not be enough to deliver slaves from bondage, or provide men and women of every color and creed their full rights and obligations as citizens of the United States. What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part - through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-t_n_9207...

BO

Biggest non big speech ever is starting.

I wish he would of just said KILL WHITEY ala Farley and walked off.

vp shut the closet door

Mark

Hello

Sammy has an echo

is it just on my end?

if someone has the im priviledges and sam brings up the economy

which i actually doubt since there's so much else to talk about - anyway, sam, i want to suggest that you interview Robert Kuttner for your next book show - his latest book (came out in 2007)The squandering of america - I am reading it now (and have been for over a couple of months because it is a heavy read for someone who is not steeped in financial knowhow like dan and nefferkitti here) - I think most of what Kuttner wrote in this article sam extracted in previous threads came from this book - it's fascinating and obviously Kuttner saw the current trainwreck coming and he knows its stuff

sam should know all he needs to do is mute his computer

sound - wouldn't that take care of im sounds?

sam part of the aipac crowd, now?

wow

marc expressing existential angst

today - too bad, he was in such good mood last time

sam should move the scheduling of this show to the

afternoon - marc is not a morning person

Marc is not Mr Sunshine today

*covers ears*

G'day, gang!

*here*

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, TONI D[ARLIN]!

You are the bedrock foundation of this community.

May all your birthday wishes come true. ; )

*bows*

Ok - haven't tuned in for a while - sorry i did

Mark - is always a grump - His whit has left him.

Sam time for a new partner.

Marc needs counseling or medication

or perhaps a lady friend

Marc is just Not a Morning Person !

Sam you need to start show later..A No Brainer ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

the next four years are going to be a challenge

Submitted by smcgee43 on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 11:00am.

how Presidential is this man :)
He can speak the english language
I have not heard this in almost 8 yrs.

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we're going to have to parse whole sentences and thoughts. we might even have to use reasoning and logic.

I'm Watching!!!

I don't know what I'd do without knowing to see you on Tuesdays (as well as Sundays). Missing you, Sam, everyday. Thanks so much for doing this Tuesday thing. Sorry Maron is in a bad moood. Don't underestimate your presence here on Tuesdays. You are making a huge difference.

Foreign currency

from EVERBANK NEWSLETTER:
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The Fed has already given up on the dollar. The recent moves show they really don't care how quickly the greenback is sinking as they are much more concerned with trying to get a handle on the credit crisis. I'm not suggesting that they should be concentrating on trying to keep the dollar strong, but I do believe that they should at least consider the inflationary impacts of their recent actions. They have thrown any concern about the next few years, quarters, or even months as they have focused on what will make the markets happy tomorrow.

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Nevermind about the echo

I had (once again) two sammy cams going...what an idiot I am.

What's Marc's IM handle?

Video is choppy for me.

Video is choppy for me.

someone please IM Marc

or Sam and suggest that Marc do a

Cookin' an' Rantin' show - i'd pay $10 a month

to see as many shows as Marc could do (couple times a week)

he loves to prepare and eat and expound

$10 X 100 or a 1000 or so subscribers ?????

Your Job - Is to ensure that the bullshit

does not become the reality.

Sure it's frustrating - sure it is hard - But Marc you have a pulpit use it or let someone else use it.

Either way quit bitching.

Your Job is....

to continue to be our source! You have taught us a great deal, Sam. Thanks for what you do. You make a difference - a huge difference. Don't ever forget this.

How do you IM to you Sam??

What is the access?

Ginseng -- Marc needs a bit

of the root!

AUDIO TO SPEECH

FOR JUST AUDIO - WNYC IN iTUNES PLAYER IS BROADCASTING IT

Oh

Obama an ADVOCATE for equality, but

race discrimination aside, does he see class war too?

that's where this story is nora

instead of making it about race he is making it about the corporatist and lobbyists.

Missed most of the

Missed most of the speech

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How long did he

How long did he speak?

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What a great speech!!!

He had me crying.

I want to hear it again. I hope it is on his web site.

Almost

a 1/2 an hour Meg.

half hour or so Meg

there were moments he really shook me. The contrast between him and the other candidates is like the difference between wine and vinegar.

I guess they'll put it on

I guess they'll put it on YouTube...

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WOW

My god
Submitted by smcgee43 on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 11:00am.
how Presidential is this man :)
He can speak the english language
I have not heard this in almost 8 yrs.

»

ya toniD

I'm at work trying to hold it back still.

Im so upset right now.. My

Im so upset right now.. My friend is still in intensive care.

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i sound like a saint cursing

against marc!

Powerful

Thanks for letting us watch the Obama speech with you both. Great moment.

Marc's sound/cam is frozen

???

$2000 for 4 stitches??

This is why we need to go back to a non-profit health care system.

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Some people are like Slinkies... not good for much, but bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

OK, it's back now

Sheesh!

What is Marc's

I.M. address - anyone???

Maron Rocks!

Maron, you fucking ROCK! Your current rant is why you two need to keep doing your show. I'd gladly pay to listen to you two hash out the issues that are affecting us today.

Thank you.

obama

maron has it wrong. he missed the beginning of obama speech when he denounced the rev's message and twisted into something else that doesn't have any relevance. but you can't attack what obama said because it more or less was "i love my mother" shit. you can't argue with him about him changing thought or subject without sounding like you are saying obama doesn't love his mother.

and also obama said itd wouldn't matter if pakistan either couldn't or didn't take action on Bin Laden. HE FUCKING WOULD. we still aren't following the fucking rules of this world. he still the same brain damaged arrogant asshole american. he's just a slick same ol stinky american shit. but the world is starting to stink, real bad.

Last week ties into this week...

Maron made a point last week that applies to this week--he was talking about his house and he said how he's the kind of person that relies on people who seem to know what they're doing. That's how things are with politics. People want to sit back and trust officials to do the right thing.

I agree with Marc

Marc sees the big picture.

FYI.

We don't want to return to Glass-Stegall separation of investment and commercial banking, but some of the large bank groups may have to be broken up. Citigroup tops the list. These firms are too large and diverse to be managed effectively. The economy has been put in peril by what are clearly broken banking practices and a failing business model.

From that radical magazine, Forbes http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/17/fed-bear-stearns-oped-cx_0317morici.htm...

I go in twice for blood work every year

the screening alone is just under $2k. I'm not so tied to living that I care to work so hard to get it done. I've got good insurance, absent that, I ain't going. In fact, I would modify my lifestyle to quicken my fate by acting more irresponsibly. THAT is what happens when people have no other option.

Maron IM

mmaron

Obama/Hillary

I Am Boycotting this Blog [Updated Numbers]
by: tremayne
Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 19:22

Okay, not really. But the recent “strike” by pro-Hillary writers at dkos has more and more blog readers and writers choosing sides, or blogs in this case. As many have noted, Hillary supporters are more likely to found at Mydd or TalkLeft. The issue has gotten the attention of traditional media like the NYTimes and a segment this morning on MSNBC. Kos’s response in the Times piece was “it’s a big Internet” so no problem.

I started wondering just how different the various sites were in the discussion of campaign-related events. To examine this, I did a series of Google searches on campaign controversies that are negative for one candidate or the other. The negative Obama stories were Rezko and the Jeremiah Wright controversy. The negative Clinton stories were the controversial comments by Geraldine Ferraro and Bill Shaheen. Follow along for the results.

http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4608

zeek

tanks!

by Kat-in-Manhattan on Tue, 03/18/2008

someone please IM Marc
Submitted by Kat-in-Manhattan on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 11:18am.
or Sam and suggest that Marc do a

Cookin' an' Rantin' show - i'd pay $10 a month

to see as many shows as Marc could do (couple times a week)

he loves to prepare and eat and expound

$10 X 100 or a 1000 or so subscribers ?????

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What a great idea! I am working on a different project for him but this is perfect For Marc and completely CHARMING! ;)

brainwashing the doper american - 101

the american news media's mind manipulation is starting to show it's working again where i live.

every time the ugly, corrupt truth somehow makes it's way to the american public through the news media (CNN for instance), the newscast immediately has a story about China directly following the exposing bad news.

for instance, all the lead stories that have a bad economic turn as part of the news segment immediately have a story about China. Yesterday it was about boycotting the Olympics because of the Tibet situation. Today, after the lead story, with more bad news about the american enslavement by corporate fascists, they ran the story about how polluted the air is where the Olympics will be held. this is just in the past two days. this mind manipulation has been going on for a long time. but the people of this country are too fucking stupid or addicted to speed and have the mind of a retard to notice or remember a week after being told.

so when the bad news hits the fucking retard in his fucked up chemically altered worthless mind of his, the corporate fascist media newscast redirects the hatred that this retard suddenly feels towards the powers that be, and himself (for being such a worthless schmuck of a human being). Hell. A fucking scumbag shithead retard with a "shit-eating" arrogant smile like g.w. bush can fool these clueless drug addicts. what's so funny is that these fat fucking pieces of arrogant bastards will still stand up and say "the usa is the best country on the planet". no matter how much or how bad the evidence to the contrary is. they just drink more ethyl alcohol and fuck up their nervous systems (specifically what's left of their brain) to a point where they no longer remember what they have done. or what an asshole they really are. so tomorrow they wake up and start this phony dream of theirs all over again. but meanwhile the dead bodies of innocent people are starting to pile up. the excessive amount of trash and poisonous pollution that these bastards spew out on the world continues to build. and the suffering of all living things on the planet continues to get worse because of these people. and the millions of people who have to live under the fear of war from the countless areas of the world where they sell the weapons and spread the hate. for that's the only thing these corporate fascists do well. other than manipulate stupid doped-out people's minds. but hell. anyone can manipulate doped-out asshole. IT JUST TAKES THE WILL. and the attractive bitch that's a whore at heart is plenty evil enough. she sold her soul, and is jealous of you if you haven't. if you let your dick do the thinking, like dopers do, you will lose your soul to her just as sure as there is no fresh water on the planet to swim in.

thanks WiccanDruid

last week i called it "The Existential Egg and I"

picture Marc puttering around his kitchen (like Nigella)

emptying his fridge and whipping up an impromptu meal -

while talking/ranting about whatever

Kat
NYC

President Bush gave us remedy for all the worlds ills

At 9/11, he told us, "Go shopping"

Now that the economy has faltered, his answer,
"go shopping"

You can't underestimate the

You can't underestimate the power of hope. People make fun of Obama for the hope talk, but it's really all we have.

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IM

I have samsedershow in my buddy list (aim) but for the past three weeks its shows 'offline' while the show is on. Does anyone know why -- or how i can im again???

What's the name of the book/author?

... regarding the "real inconvenient truth"? And, when/where is he speaking?

Buying Power

Submitted by dan on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 10:01am.
...now, none of this goes without saying that the market could turn on a dime with any significant news...
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(Adjusted for inflation, the market could turn on 6.1769 cents.)

So how does Maron feel about these remarks?

I've never heard any rupidiation of these remarks.
Still waiting for an apology.

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"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." — Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983

The late Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan asserted that the quality of American military forces had deteriorated because they were composed of Blacks "who have low intelligence and low education." He urged America to ensure that "fresh blood and better brains go to their forces." He is a hero in Israel.

(like Nigella)

i just loved watching her work with her bare hands and licking her fingers...all so natural, i love her

Perfect Name and All! Kat-in-Manhattan on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 11:

;)

melina

i want to talk to yyou about chickens.

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Sorry!

Okay so I meant repudiation.

mmmmmmmmmmmm

Pie looks good!!

that lemon pie

looks delicious

Very Chop-ee

Wow chickens for everyone!

is marc proud of his pie or what he can seem so

innocent at times like a little boy...

Marc I want to hear about your lemon

pie!!

does someone here know

maron's im address?

That can be your first show

Lemon pie

yay Sam filling in for

RR whole of next week!

Marc go on Randi's show

with Sam!

Malloy !

Marc an Sam filling in for Malloy!

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Chickens

My neighbor suggested turning my old shed into a chicken coop. I am reluctant - anyone know of any online resources on this?

Any comments/advise are welcome!

when life gives you lemons. . .

make lemon pie!!

Marc resembles

that little doll!

A cooking show

where everything looks great and exotic and people say things like doesn't this smell great.... yada, yada, yada.... Then it comes out a total disaster and it isn't edible so you have to try to find out how everything always goes to hell.... Now that sounds like a Maron show.

So long eveybody!!!

b bye

Where was Sam

for today's show.

He looked 12.

Makes more sense to use teh

Makes more sense to use teh chickens for eggs. You wouldn't kill them because then you'd have one meal and with the eggs you could have several.

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Obama speech reminds me of old western I love...

Obama is like the Gregory Peck character in "The Big Country"! You gotta see it! A great flick!

Obama is cosmopolitan in nature. Very much like the Gregory Peck character.

Obama has come to terms with his mixed race, and knows it can be done and seems to want to bring us along with him into this new sane world he understands can exist, that he knows the U.S. has chosen to create through government principles.

In "The Big Country" the Gregory Peck character challenges the resentments and bloodfeuds he encounters. It's magnificent. And isn't that what Obama is doing too?

Ditto

yay Sam filling in for
new
Submitted by Lucille on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 12:07pm.
RR whole of next week!

troubled

What an awesome episode.

I loved it when Sam suggested they listen to Obama's speech, instead of the show.

That was just what Marc needed to get him going! His rant was nearly as inspirational as Obama's message.

Relish and mustard sandwiches to afford cancer treatment?! Or $2000 for 4 stitches?

Fernando

I took a screen grab of that too! Haha

It could be their album cover
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Lunch time

have a good one. . .

Great show.

Thanks Seder and Maron.

Belated Happy St. Patty's Day!

I love this. Can't remember if I posted it last night, but its great.

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Clinton and McCain both need to make religious speeches now!

In fairness, I now want to hear Clinton and McCain make speeches. I want to hear them address the religious radicals with whom they associate -- those religious radicals who ACTIVELY seek to destroy SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!

Hillary belongs to the secretive group called The Fellowship, and McCain has sought endorsements from radical religious leaders who want their God everywhere, including in government.

Now these two need to explain WHY we shouldn't reject them for their bizarre choice of religious ties!!!!

Wright is now a Non Issue

After Obama's speech there is no need to discuss or argue about Rev. Wright. He addressed it all in his speech.
http://tinyurl.com/2qorn9

there is no need to discuss or argue about Rev. Wright

you are breaking joe scarborough's heart here, oh my now what will he have to say on morning joe?

I missed the Seder v Maron today

Is it archived? Is there someplace I can listen to it?

Please and thank you for educating this out-of-it person....

you are breaking joe


you are breaking joe scarborough's heart here, oh my now what will have to say on morning joe?

there's always Obama's parking tickets...

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Melina

What is Melina's blog?

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Kristol an expert on race

Kristol an expert on race relations?????

HA!

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Melina's blog

state secrets

United States censors Guantanamo prisoner's sketch of force-feeding

19 hours ago

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba — The United States has censored a gruesome drawing by a Guantanamo Bay detainee depicting him as a skeleton being force-fed at the military prison, the man's lawyers said Monday as they released a recreation of the sketch.

The detainee, Sami al-Haj, a Sudanese cameramen for the Al-Jazeera TV network, marked his 431st day on hunger strike Monday at Guantanamo, the U.S. base in Cuba where some 275 men suspected of terrorism or links with al-Qaida or the Taliban are being held.

"My picture reflects my nightmares of what I must look like, with my head double-strapped down, a tube in my nose, a black mask over my mouth, with no eyes and only giant cheekbones," al-Haj said in a statement released by the British legal rights group Reprieve.

The lawyers said they commissioned a political cartoonist, Lewis Peake, to recreate four of al-Haj's drawings, based on descriptions of the censored originals, to reveal "aspects of the prisoners' suffering in U.S. custody."

U.S. navy Cmdr. Rick Haupt, a spokesman for the prison camp, denied detainees are mistreated and said al-Qaida trains its operatives to allege inhumane treatment.

"We continue to treat all detainees safely and humanely," Haupt said.

Seven detainees remained on hunger strike Monday to protest against conditions and their indefinite confinement at Guantanamo. All were being fed liquid nutrients through a tube inserted into their nostril.

Clive Stafford Smith, one of al Haj's lawyers, said the censorship of the drawings was motivated by public-relations concerns.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=54710

there's always Obama's parking tickets

ma bad forgot that one...and dont forget that he used to smoke too now!

Obama's speech video

O'Bama's speech on race courtesy of Crooks and Liars

It's like Obama said

I have refused to be split by the mixed race reality of my life, and I want to live to see my nation become whole (as intended by the concept of equality) and no longer split by the issues of race or ethnicity!

issues of race or ethnicity

i dont care he is still a muslim --er, terrorist...um---radical christian? oh geez forget it, his all of that!

am going home for lunch am going to watch

the news be very depressed from now on, no dead blonde girls to gossip about and this damn obama why did he have to give the speach today...we were having so much fun...economy...what economy? jeez!

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

Is the web site down for everyone or is it just you?

Find out here.

We Have A Choice

"For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle - as we did in the OJ trial - or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words...

We can do that.

But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change..."

-Barack Obama
3/18/08

Romney's religious announcement was broadcast so

was Obama's? Was it on TV? Not on the radio in my area.

My friend is brain dead. :(

My friend is brain dead.

:(

Shit. One of my best friend. 34 yaers old. Gone.

I can't fucking stand it.

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I'm so sorry Meg

that's terrible. Are you ok?

No,

Not ok

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Wish I could help


Meg

I'm so sorry..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Meg

I am very sorry about your friend.

Do you know anything more about what happened?
It's really terrible. Don't know what to say.

Blessings (Prayers). And Blessings To You Meg.

My Heart Goes To You...:):(
2 Dear Friends recently died and one with a Brain Tumour.

I (perhaps we) saw death since a youth so I have learned that although I have longevity on my side, I know "In A Blink Of The Eye ... a Life Goes By".
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New Thread up

Meg

Sorry to hear about your friend.

I'm old enough to have gone through this a few times and know nothing we can say will make you feel better now but it does get easier and you will have good memories. I know it's not easy and it isn't fair. Many blessings to you and her family.

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