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Sam they are fighting over there
im the good one, for real...ngiyabonga!
Yes you were Lucille
One election at a time...
savetucker.com ?
from the fires of hell?
P.A.
stands for what?
The Sambo
i prefer tar-baby or maybe golliwog?
NOT From The Onion
He does it all on his own ...
Bush Won't Be Forced Into `Bad Decisions' on Economy
March 15 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush, under fire from Democrats who say he's doing too little to help homeowners facing foreclosure, said he won't be stampeded into ``bad policy decisions'' that might harm the economy.
``The market now is in the process of correcting itself, and delaying that correction would only prolong the problem,'' he said today in his weekly radio address. ``I believe the government can take sensible, focused action to help responsible homeowners weather this rough patch.''
Bush's remarks echoed a speech yesterday, when he said the economy is going through a ``tough time'' and that the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department will take ``appropriate steps'' to stabilize the financial system after a bailout of Bear Stearns Cos., the fifth-largest U.S. securities firm......
Alice
I'm glad you feel that way.
I have never seen anything good come out of those delusions. It keeps us all down to the lowest common denominator when it's brought up. That hurts me personally. I didn't bring up religion. I brought up peace vs war and hypocrisy.
hi Incubus
I'm waiting on Fed-X to bring my computer parts.
MORE POWER!
Never?
You've never known anyone who got something you think of as positive and the the person calls themselves religious?
Rapturous One Liners
Submitted by Alice on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 6:22pm.
You've never known anyone who got something you think of as positive and the the person calls themselves religious?
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I am not certain that I understand your question. If I do, then the answer is "Joke material."
Trolly Clown
went back to Rushies site to wack off,I see..
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
Never Alice
I'm sorry. I've seen people convince themselves of things but its always a delusion. I have no respect for any of this God talk. None. Don't expect if from me. I can't fake it.
You can tell me that I should respect people for their beliefs but I'm just going to tell you that they are fooling themselves and damaging me with their silliness. Way too many die respecting people of religion. I'm not buying it. Ever. Their crusades are paid for by atheists like me. How is that fair and why should I allow them to have center stage?
That Last Thread....
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
Yeah but if people stopped dying there
wouldn't be enough resources...or so I've read...
Which is an athiest? The one who says there is no god or the one who says I don't know if there is a god?
Things That Go Bump And Fire And Brimstone In The Dark
Submitted by Fernando on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 6:31pm.
...You can tell me that I should respect people for their beliefs but I'm just going to tell you that they are fooling themselves and damaging me with their silliness...
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Stephen Hawking: "The Afterlife is a fantasy for people who are afraid of the dark."
Re: spocko's brain
http://www.spockosbrain.com/
still up and running !
Winter Soldiers II Conference (sometime between 5:00pm - 5:30pm
today/Sat./3-15-08)
What did Erin say ....?
"Breaking Obedience."
Did Erin say, it was time for soldiers to realize they didn't need/they didn't have to/they weren't required to follow their commanders, their leaders, when their orders were false and based on lies?
What does that mean?
If "war" with Iran is wrong and reasons for it are based on lies and false information, what would Erin's advice/suggestions mean?
Peace
Deborah from Kansas
I believe the government can take sensible,focused action to
I believe the government can take sensible, focused action to help..etc..
Didn't Bushtard say basically the Same thing during Katrina ?
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
I love that guy..but I don't believe that
Stephen Hawking: "The Afterlife is a fantasy for people who are afraid of the dark."
Deborah from Kansas
http://www.history.army.mil/faq/oaths.htm
These are the Oaths they swear.
Rockwell
Somebody's Watching Me, mp3
Here's a song set you'll never hear at a troll dance ...
...or Young Republican mixer...
Midnight Hour
Ain't Too Proud to Beg
Superstition
Try a Little Tenderness
Can't Help Myself
Papa's Got a Brand New Bag
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bluerootsradio
educated fools from uneducated schools
oo. i know that---dont you jez luv the gear?
Perhaps you should consider this religion,
Fernando: Who Is Rev. Moon? 'Returning Lord,' 'Messiah,' Publisher of the Washington Times
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/79529/
(excellent overview)
ella
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCsxZfQqSdA
There really is nothing more annoying than grooming customers
"My Nona would have bows put on her male poodle's head when he was groomed...would you allow this to happen in your facility?"
I feel bad for the dog when that happens.
Many people who get their dogs groomed complain about everything until they are told not to come back. They are never happy. I spent the end of Friday listening to a complaining customer, and recommended that if she doesn't like our groomer, she should go somewhere else. I never in a million years thought I'd be having a conversation like that.
Meanwhile, the groomers themselves are primadonnas. The whole grooming thing is incredibly stupid and surreal. But there's good money in it, so we put up with it.
If I lived in Chicago, I'd try the Trinity
United Church of Christ once.
Here's Rev. Wrights terrifying resume:
www.tucc.org/pastor.htm - 12k
brothers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKJw1h4KQuw
I saw n for a second.
In the online and active column. Maybe he'll stop in later. That would be nice.
Wrights terrifying resume:
to who?
the ghetto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoN7Adwkew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c2pp1kcyu4
Terrifying--snark
Rachel Corrie play debuts in Israel
A play about the US activist Rachel Corrie, who was killed at the age of 23 by an Israeli army bulldozer in Gaza, will be performed for the first time in Israel tomorrow, on the fifth anniversary of her death.
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/theatre/drama/story/0,,2265582,00.html
sorry Alice
grocery store beckoned. Atheists know there is no God.
I'm a bit of a Buddhist/Druid thou. They really don't have a deity and worship nature. I worship nature from a observational/empirical perspective. It may just be that our shared conscience share a dimension in an after life of sorts. I contend there is no time inside a dark hole and wonder if it exists outside of the galactic mass. Absent time the ever after becomes an easy concept to get behind.
But the idea that a god made man in his image is just voodoo to me. It is possible that the aliens or angels described in the Bible have some basis in fact. Its possible that he Sumerian stories of dna manipulation to seed the planet by another life form has some weight. Aliens aren't gods however and starting or maintaining wars on their behalf is just dumb.
love it i dont give a flying fart---miss home sometimes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6BjOS7CV8U
If Obama does get elected President
I'd like to see him wearing a turban in his first State of the Union address. That would be real cool.
Although, this blog will be jam spammed by trolls all day.
Question ...
Thank you for sharing the oath, from where my question orignates:
Does protecting/"defending" the Constitution
come before following/obeying ".... the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice."?
Wondering ....
Peace
Deborah from Kansas
God Takes A Holiday
Alice,
Regarding your question of the definition of atheism (versus agnosticism):
It has become really complicated in recent years beyond the pure definition (much like the definition of anarchy) but I do not subscribe to the pop-culture-influenced definitions.
The etymology of atheism points toward not believing in the existence of a deity rather than toward not believing in a "theism" as the word seems to imply. By extrapolation, not believing in the existence of one or more deities implies not believing in a theism/religion because theisms are dependent upon a god as a foundation. "Adeist" would be more accurate but we works with the words we are given.
Agnosticism, on the other hand, covers its bets by being defined as not believing in the human ability to have or attain knowledge of the supernatural, i.e. to know one or more deities. Agnosticism is an easier position to defend than atheism because it does not absolutely deny the existence of one or more gods.
The most frequent argument against atheism is that atheists cannot prove the non-existence of one or more deities, which is where agnosticism fills the gap.
The informed atheist will retort, "I cannot disprove the existence of leprechauns, either."
So, to recap, an atheist does not believe in the existence of god while an agnostic (gnostic = to know, to be enlightened) does not believe that human beings can possess knowledge of the existence or the non-existence of god.
I don't believe in the existence of the supernatural nor am I superstitious. Both words depend on the prefix "super" which denotes "beyond ordinary reality."
I'm a devotee of ordinary reality. It undeniably impacts my daily life and seems to be the only influence on my daily life.
Spooks? Not so much.
grover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGx0eJ9UUF8
That's pretty funny...& surreal
--I never in a million years thought I'd be having a conversation like that.--
Paris Hilton autopsy...
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To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition
-Woody Allen
Submitted by Fernando on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 7:44pm.
My religion is way better than yours. It guarantees me that I sit at god's supper table for eternity after I croak.
Jesus, I hope I don't become a lard-ass.
What are you talking about Crank Bait?
I can prove the existence of Leprechauns.

ma dad used his fingernails
boo
-I'm a devotee of ordinary reality.-
ok.
High Anxiety
If Obama does get elected President
Submitted by Exhausted Blogger on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 7:46pm.
I'd like to see him wearing a turban in his first State of the Union address. That would be real cool...
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...or wearing an ankh. It would give folks ankhst.
To really know God Almighty...
don't I have to earn an M.A. degree, at least, to be credible? I understand that Ph.D.'s can have conversations with God, and the Pope dictates God to us.
I want Chow Mein
but first I have to cook it.
Later...
One election at a time...
toniD--told you i got u
To really know God Almighty.....
Requires ouzo and I don't recommend you go there.
..or wearing an ankh.
isn't that the Egyptian flag lapel pin?
Yeah, I'd have some ankh about that.
ouzo
I'm leaving that to ono. I saw God, but my head hurt!
Clog Dancing With Muslim Kenyans
Submitted by Fernando on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 7:51pm.
I can prove the existence of Leprechauns.
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Racial/ethnic satire doesn't get any better than that.
The unspoken but implied conclusion is: If you get sucked into this shit, you are an idiot.
toniD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sAPO1CyDJ4
He's Got The Scoop On The Poop, Too! (or vice versa)
I want Chow Mein
Submitted by pbtrue1 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 7:55pm.
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If you want your Chow mane groomed, give dada a ringy-dingy.
everyone, both man and woman
keiran
ought today to choose his creed:
You shall hereby hearken to the soul of nature. The resplendant orb of the rising sun, the ethereal gentleness of the beaming moon, the planets and the stars, the verdant earth, the swift-flowing river, murmuring in sweet cadence of eternity and bliss, the roaring sea, and the glorious fire, all manifestations of the Almightly God.
I Thot I Taw A Crucifix
..or wearing an ankh.
Submitted by Exhausted Blogger on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 8:00pm.
isn't that the Egyptian flag lapel pin?
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I like to think of it as a universally ambiguous spiritual something-or-other. Kinda like a fish bumper sticker with legs.
Exhausted Blogger on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 8:01pm.
now there is a shared dimensional space. I was visiting my old room mate while he was getting his Phd and he broke that stuff out. He told me they were never able to get that smell out of that toilet. Who knew that anise was worse than anus?
i am having funny sleepty non initejeent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_KbwEVBjU
It's Sweet And That's All That Counts
Bait: "I see that you are wearing an ankh."
Young Lady: "Yes, it's an ankh."
Bait: "Why are you wearing an ankh?"
Young Lady: "To show my spirituality."
Bait: "And what comprises your spirituality?"
Young Lady: "I don't know. I only know that it exists."
Bait: "Kinda like the filler in a Twinkie?"
Young Lady: "Yes! I mean no! Well, maybe."
thaz the way luv iz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-C8_ugOr0
6
Mayor says at least 4 dead in Manhattan crane incident...
2 dead in North Georgia storms...
Strike While The Irony Is Hot
Kristen,' Linked to Spitzer, Becomes Pop Star on Web (Update1)
By Gillian Wee
March 15 (Bloomberg) -- As Ashley Alexandra Dupre, the young lady from New Jersey never fulfilled her dream of becoming a singing star. As `Kristen,' she's an overnight hit.
Dupre is better known as the 22-year-old prostitute, working as Kristen, linked with New York Governor Eliot Spitzer. Since she was identified by the New York Times on March 12, her single, ``What We Want,'' has been played more than 3 million times on the Internet.
A second song, ``Move Ya Body,'' set a record for how fast it commanded the top price on music-download site AmieStreet.com, and New York's Z100 radio station is playing Dupre's music. She joins the likes of former White House intern Monica Lewinsky and others enriched by scandal, at least for a while...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=a1YDz7KwnW0Q&refer=h...
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---Bait News Service---
Scandal Opens New Career Doors
It is rumored that Larry Craig is working on a single that is a cover of Tammy Wynette's "Stand By Your Man."
Oooo!
GOOD GITTAR LUCILLE!
billy
la femme!!
---Bait's News Headline Service---
Submitted by Alice on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 8:36pm.
Mayor says at least 4 dead in Manhattan crane incident...
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Warrant Issued For Endangered Whooper
(A special Thank You goes out to Molly Ivins for the colloquial nomenclature.)
How is it that
Vicki Iseman can go missing for two weeks and Nancy doesn't have a meltdown over the absent blond?
How is it that Ashley Alexandra Dupré or Kristen gets $1M penthouse offers while Vicki gets ignored?
Is there some blonds don't matter once they are over 30 rule? I'm so confused by the relative lack of proper remembrance of Vicki. How do we know she's not been flushed down the memory hole like Chandra Leeve?
This is interesting too. McCain and Obama promised to disclose all earmarks going back to 2001 but not Clinton. What is she hiding?

c'on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5ZsJeO_gQU
The Scoop On The Poop
That's the good thing about being manager, you aren't down in the trenches, heeding the call of duty, as it were.
The bad thing about being manager is that you're the manager, so you get to listen to crazy ladies complain about their dog's haircuts.
jz
---Bait's Blog News Headlines---
Submitted by dada on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 9:03pm.
The bad thing about being manager is that you're the manager, so you get to listen to crazy ladies complain about their dog's haircuts.
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Pooch Gets Princeton, Boss Gets Battle Axe
Everything is a conspiracy.
Explosives were planted on the crane that "collapsed" in New York city. Look at the marks on it. That isn't mechanical failure. It's obviously the remnants of ... a SMART BOMB! IT WAS A BOMB, YES THAT'S IT- a BOMB THAT THE MILITARY LAUNCHED FROM A CLASS 1 JET THAT THEY DISGUISED AS A SURVEILLANCE DRONE, MAN!
www.sigzone.blogspot.com
Conspiracy theorist contradicting himself
The explosives were, like, planted on there for added effect, man. The explosion from the bomb wasn't enough. They needed an effective demonstration, man.
www.sigzone.blogspot.com
Hoist By Crane His Petards
The reference to Molly Ivins and a "Whooper" is derived from this story that she told many times.
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And in true Molly style, she went on to talk about our incumbent Governor Rick Perry, whom she has always referred to as “Governor GoodHair.”
Quoth Molly about his reelection and early days in his return to office:
“Now let me explain, it’s possible to make progress with Rick Perry as governor. He needed a new person on the state regulatory board and chose for this purpose a former Enron executive, which didn’t strike everybody as a great idea, but it struck the governor as a great idea. So he appoints this guy. And we don’t have, in Texas, a sunshine law…we have kind of a partly cloudy law.
(Laughter)
“So we went and found out that he had, while on a hunting trip on a year earlier accidentally shot a whooping crane, which is, as we say in Texas, an In-Dangered species. He not only shot the whooping crane, he accidentally buried the whooping crane.
(Laughter)
“And he had to pay a huge fine. So we put this in the papers…and Texas is a state full of hunters, and they’re all sitting there going, ‘Son of a bitch, poor guy, he accidentally shot a whooper, hell anybody could accidentally shoot a whooper’ and they didn’t give a damn.
But we printed the next day, we stayed with the story. This is where relentless pursuit will get the young reporter ahead: He shot the whooper while on a duck hunt.
(Laughter)
Continues Molly, “Now the whooper is a large bird. A whooper actually runs to about five feet tall. Your duck…not so tall. Now we’ve got a whole state full of hunters saying, ‘Well, God-Damn! This son of a bitch is too dumb to tell a duck from a whooper…’
(Laughter)
“And he was forced to resign.”
grover 2
Didn't know there was a NEW THREAD -
Alice -
Submitted by smcgee43 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 8:45pm.
did you shoot those photos.
I like them.... if you did I like them even more.
I've been busy cleaning our "mud" room. What a fucking
job. My back is killing me. The name fits it though - now that
everything has melted it really is the MUD ROOM.
MMRules - no I do not live in Phoenix. My sister is in Scottsdale.
I live outside of Chicago :)
George Speaks, Badly
George Speaks, Badly
By GAIL COLLINS
Watching George W. Bush address the New York financial community Friday brought back many memories. Unfortunately, they were about his speech right after Hurricane Katrina, the one when he said: “America will be a stronger place for it.”
“You’ve helped make our country really in many ways the economic envy of the world,” he told the Economic Club of New York.
You could almost see the thought-bubble forming over the audience: Not this week, kiddo.
The president squinched his face and bit his lip and seemed too antsy to stand still. As he searched for the name of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (“the king, uh, the king of Saudi”) and made guy-fun of one of the questioners (“Who picked Gigot?”), you had to wonder what the international financial community makes of a country whose president could show up to talk economics in the middle of a liquidity crisis and kind of flop around the stage as if he was emcee at the Iowa Republican Pig Roast.
We’re really past expecting anything much, but in times of crisis you would like to at least believe your leader has the capacity to pretend he’s in control. Suddenly, I recalled a day long ago when my husband worked for a struggling paper full of worried employees and the publisher walked into the newsroom wearing a gorilla suit.
The country that elected George Bush — sort of — because he seemed like he’d be more fun to have a beer with than Al Gore or John Kerry is really getting its comeuppance. Our credit markets are foundering, and all we’ve got is a guy who looks like he’s ready to kick back and start the weekend.
This is not the first time Bush’s attempts to calm our fears redoubled our nightmares. His first speech after 9/11 — that two-minute job on the Air Force base — was so stilted that the entire country felt like heading for the nearest fallout shelter. After Katrina, of course, it took forever to pry him out of Crawford, and then he more or less read a laundry list of Goods Being Shipped to the Flood Zone and delivered some brief assurances that things would work out.
O.K., so he’s not good at first-day response. Or second. Third can be a problem, too. But this economic crisis has been going on for months, and all the president could come up with sounded as if it had been composed for a Rotary Club and then delivered by a guy who had never read it before. “One thing is certain that Congress will do is waste some of your money,” he said. “So I’ve challenged members of Congress to cut the number of cost of earmarks in half.”
Besides being incoherent, this is a perfect sign of an utterly phony speech. Earmarks are one of those easy-to-attack Congressional weaknesses, and in a perfect world, they would not exist. But they cost approximately two cents in the grand budgetary scheme of things. Saying you’re going to fix the economy or balance the budget by cutting out earmarks is like saying you’re going to end global warming by banning bathroom nightlights.
Bush pointed out — as if the entire economic world didn’t already know — that Congress has already passed an economic incentive package that will send tax rebate checks to more than 130 million households. “A lot of them are a little skeptical about this ‘checks in the mail’ stuff,” he jibed. Jokejoke. Winkwink.
Then, after a run through of “ideas I strongly reject,” Bush finally got around to announcing that he was going to “talk about what we’re for. We’re obviously for sending out over $150 billion into the marketplace in the form of checks that will be reaching the mailboxes by the second week of May.
“We’re for that,” he added.
Once the markets had that really, really clear, Bush felt free to go on to the other things he was for, which very much resembled that laundry list for Katrina (“400 trucks containing 5.4 million Meals Ready to Eat — or M.R.E.’s ... 3.4 million pounds of ice ...”) This time the rundown included a six-month-old F.H.A. refinancing program, and an industry group called Hope Now that offers advice to people with mortgage problems.
And then, finally, the nub of the housing crisis: “Problem we have is, a lot of folks aren’t responding to over a million letters sent out to offer them assistance and mortgage counseling,” the president of the United States told the world.
But wait — more positive news! The secretary of Housing and Urban Development is proposing that lenders supply an easy-to-read summary with mortgage agreements. “You know, these mortgages can be pretty frightening to people. I mean, there’s a lot of tiny print,” the president said.
Really, if he can’t fix the economy, the least he could do is rehearse the speech.
Oh Meg
Congrats. on your NEW home....
Pictures would be great.
Im still looking - I do have an appointment with the mortgage
dude on Wed. morning.
Anyways congrats..... :)
For Alice, wherever...
I love this - thank you to pbtrue1
Boring.....
new
Submitted by pbtrue1 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 10:14am.
Cookie cutter people
living cookie cutter lives
raising cookie cutter children
with their cookie cutter wives
driving cookie cutter SUVs
to cookie cutter schools
on to cookie cutter jobs
with their cookie cutter rules
on a cookie cutter schedule
for their cookie cutter day
while their cookie cutter kids
engage in cookie cutter play
in their cookie cutter suburbs
with their cookie cutter lawns
'til their cookie cutter nights
end in cookie cutter yawns
Besides Being Incoherent
George Speaks, Badly
Submitted by Meg on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 9:44pm.
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Gail Collins speaks for me better than I can speak for me.
Is it as simple as "George W. Bush is an idiot"?
Yes, frankly, it is.
Troubled Waters
Submitted by smcgee43 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 9:50pm.
...I do have an appointment with the mortgage
dude on Wed. morning.
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(Cue Jaws theme.)
Finally, peace and quiet.
I put in over 9 hours of work today and when I got home, the phone doesn't stop ringing.
Thanks for the Sade vids Lucille.
I see the C-man was spreading his garbage again on the last thread. Remember, he said he hated McCain. And his righty dad did too. DOn't think he will vote this year. He's just giving shit to the blog. He must have been stood up tonight!
Crank Bait
If you want your Chow mane groomed, give dada a ringy-dingy.
»
did you see Kevins joke?
smcgee43, Dont congrat me
smcgee43,
Dont congrat me yet. The mortgage underwriters are taking their time approving me.
________________________________
Move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!
Prolific Impostors
Submitted by pbtrue1 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 10:09pm.
did you see Kevins joke?
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There's only one?
How is it that
as a married couple, I believe they must file a joint return, and Bills been busy.
i think 6 years
smcgee43 Thanks
smcgee43 Thanks
CALHOUN 08!
Tim Calhoun is running for President of America!
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Move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!
DEATH AND TAXES....Tout
DEATH AND TAXES....Tout Washington knows that Hillary Clinton hasn't yet made her tax returns public. "Release the Tax Returns!" is close to joining "No taxation without representation" in the annals of tax-based political slogans. But Jamison Foser points out an odd thing: John McCain, husband of wealthy beer heiress Cindy McCain, hasn't released his tax returns either:
Not that you would know that from watching MSNBC. According to Nexis, there hasn't been a single mention on MSNBC this year of the fact that McCain hasn't released his tax returns. No indication that McCain might even pay taxes, much less that he hasn't released his returns.
....MSNBC has by no means been unique in keeping secret the fact that John McCain hasn't released his tax returns. Media Matters has repeatedly documented media raising Clinton's lack of disclosure without mentioning McCain's — see here, here, here, and here for examples. During a March 5 Washingtonpost.com online discussion, Washington Post congressional reporter Jonathan Weisman wrote, "I think McCain has" released his tax returns. Weisman was wrong. Not only hasn't McCain released his taxes, he hasn't even promised to do so in the future, as Clinton has. But it's hard to blame Weisman for not knowing this, given that the rest of the news media were all but ignoring the subject.
Hell, I didn't know this either. And sure, I understand that different treatment is justified since we all know that Hillary Clinton is a conniving, power-hungry shrew while John McCain is a financial boy scout with nothing but the people's best interests at heart — but hey, it can't hurt to make sure, can it? Maybe somebody should start asking Honest John the same questions they're asking Hillary.
The answers to these questions, by the way, will almost certainly be the same in both cases: no surprises. Since neither of them are idiots, I'm sure the payoffs to mob figures and shady fixers will be safely off the books.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_03/013334.php
did you see Kevins joke?
Hmm, if you start with one, you can move on to another.
I did.
Bad Joke #9
Crank: How much is your won ton soup?
Waiter: 2000 pounds.
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bluerootsradio
Bad Joke #10
What do you get if you cross a dinosaur with a plate?
A tyrannosaucer.
Bad Joke #11
How many mice does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Two, if they are small enough
Glaciers melt 'at fastest
Glaciers melt 'at fastest rate in past 5,000 years'
The world's glaciers are melting faster than at any time since records began, threatening catastrophe for hundreds of millions of people and their eco-systems.
The details are revealed in the latest report from the World Glacier Monitoring Service and will add to growing alarm about the rise in sea levels and increased instances of flooding, avalanches and drought.
Based on historical records and other evidence, the rate at which the glaciers are melting is also thought to be faster that at any time in the past 5,000 years, said Professor Wilfried Haeberli, director of the monitoring service. 'There's no absolute proof, but nevertheless the evidence is strong: this is really extraordinary.'
Experts have been monitoring 30 glaciers around the world for nearly three decades and the most recent figures, for 2006, show the biggest ever 'net loss' of ice. Achim Steiner, head of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP), told The Observer that melting glaciers were now the 'loudest and clearest' warning signal of global warming.
The problem could lead to failing infrastructure, mass migration and even conflict. 'We're talking about something that happens in your and my lifespan. We're not talking about something hypothetical, we're talking about something dramatic in its consequences,' he said
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/mar/16/glaciers.climatechange...
Protesters across the world
Protesters across the world condemn Iraq war 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
Thousands of protestors marched against the Iraq war in Los Angeles on Saturday as part of a global day of action that drew huge crowds in London and smaller protests elsewhere in Europe and Canada.
Police said about 2,000 people marched through Hollywood, while organizers put the figure at 10,000. They carried banners denouncing President George W. Bush and urged an end to the conflict in Iraq, where 155,000 US troops are deployed.
Earlier, thousands of people gathered in London and the Scottish city of Glasgow ahead of the fifth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq on March 20, calling for the withdrawal of British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Police in London said there were 10,000 on the streets but organizers the Stop the War Coalition put the crowds at between 30,000 to 40,000. In Glasgow police estimated between 1,000 to 1,500 protesters at the height of the march.
In Los Angeles, Vietnam war veteran Ron Kovic, whose book "Born on the Fourth of July" was turned into a film with Tom Cruise, joined the march down Hollywood Boulevard in his wheelchair.
Shot and paralyzed in Vietnam 40 years ago, he told AFP he felt "sorrow" and "anguish" for the Iraqi people and for the US men and women fighting there "who are suffering, who are losing their arms and legs, who are being killed."
"But I feel more than anything, when I see what's going on in Iraq I feel determined, determined to fight with everything within us to stop this madness," he added.
Meanwhile in London, veteran left-winger and former Labour Party lawmaker Tony Benn said Britain's involvement in Iraq, where the country has 4,100 troops, and Afghanistan, where it has 7,800, had caused "devastation."
The Green Party's member of the European Parliament, Caroline Lucas, called for former British prime minister Tony Blair and his successor Gordon Brown to be prosecuted for war crimes.
"They need to know you cannot bomb your way to peace," she said.
In Glasgow, protesters were joined by the mother of a British soldier who was killed in a roadside bomb attack in Iraq, as well as left-wing groups and trade unions.
The British Foreign Office described the protesters' claims as "simply not accurate," pointing to the "steady progress, particularly in terms of security" being made in Iraq and said the government had learnt from mistakes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080316/wl_afp/usiraqafghanistanprotest_080...
Yay!
me and Bgurl are gonna have waterfront property in 80 years!
i'm buying a swimsuit.
Circular Definitions
I wanted to learn the etymology of ides, so I looked it up.
The dictionary says, [Middle English, from Old French, from Latin Īdūs.] which tells me nothing.
The definition is the ninth day after the nones, which is the 15th day of March, May, July, or October or the 13th day of the other months.
So I looked up nones, [Middle English, from Old French, from Latin nōnae, feminine pl. of nōnus, ninth.] which also tells me nothing.
The definition is the ninth day before the ides of a month; in the ancient Roman calendar, the seventh day of March, May, July, or October and the fifth day of the other months.
Thanks to my research, I now know that the ides is nine days after the nones and the nones is nine days before the ides, but I still don't know what the hell they mean or why they exist.
Crank
Definitions of nones at Dictionary.com. ... The time of day appointed for this service, usually the ninth hour after sunrise.
Nones (Latin nonus or ninth) was originally the day when the moon reached its first quarter phase.
http://www.12x30.net/calends.html
So ides would be 9 days after the first quarter moon at 9pm
?
Ides is "roughly" the middle of the month...
ides |īdz|
plural noun
(in the ancient Roman calendar) a day falling roughly in the middle of each month (the 15th day of March, May, July, and October, and the 13th of other months), from which other dates were calculated. Compare with nones , calends .
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bluerootsradio
Oh, you want a precise def of "ides"
A day id es roughly in the middle of the month.
And I thought Latin was hard when I took it in college.
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bluerootsradio
Here is the real scandal
Media outlets had been camped outside her apartment in Manhattan's Flatiron district for days. A spokesman for her building issued a statement Thursday night saying she was not there and indicated Dupre's fellow tenants — who pay $6,595 for two-bedroom apartments — were fed up with the media circus and curiosity-seekers.
No wonder she charges so high.
**Lesbian Chic**
Thespian Lipsti
and she was one of the cheaper ones.
Obama expands delegate
Obama expands delegate lead
Obama Picks Up Delegates in Iowa Thanks to Edwards Switches
MIKE GLOVER
AP News
Mar 15, 2008 20:50 EST
Democrat Barack Obama expanded his fragile lead in delegates over rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday, picking up at least seven delegates as Iowa activists took the next step in picking delegates to the national convention.
Half the 14 delegates allocated to John Edwards on the basis of caucus night projections switched Saturday and Obama got most, if not all, of them.
Iowa Democratic Party officials said that with more than 86 percent of the delegates picked, Obama claimed 52 percent of the delegates elected at county conventions on Saturday, compared with 32 percent for Clinton. About 16 percent of the delegates picked at Saturday's conventions were sticking with Edwards, even though he's dropped from the race since Iowa held its caucuses in January.
Democratic Party projections said the results mean Obama increased by seven the number of delegates he collects from the state, getting a total of 23 compared to 14 for Clinton and seven for Edwards, with one to be decided.
Twelve automatic delegates bring the state's total to 57. Obama has been endorsed by four of those and Clinton three, with the remainder uncommitted.
Also Saturday, California's Democratic Party finalized the delegate counts from its Feb. 5 primary. Clinton picked up two more pledged delegates, raising her state total to 204; Obama gained five, raising his figure to 166.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Obama_expands_delegate_lead_0315200...
Ides Not Alone
Thanks to my curiosity about ides, I now know that I am not the only smart ass on the blog.
and she was one of the
and she was one of the cheaper ones.
I wonder how much they pay for housing?
Seriously.Who can afford to live in Manhattan? And it is almost as bad in other places. Out of control market.
A damned scandal.
**Lesbian Chic**
NYT: Stolen oil profits keep
NYT: Stolen oil profits keep Iraq's insurgency running
While many US officials and politicians routinely point to jihadism or Islamofascism as key motivating factors for Iraq's insurgency, a growing number of officers on the ground are blaming economic conditions instead, according to an article slated for the front page of Sunday's New York Times.
Richard A. Oppel Jr. reports that "there are officers in the U.S. military who openly question how much a role jihadism plays in the minds of most people who carry out attacks. As the U.S. occupation has worn on and unemployment has remained high, these officers say the overwhelming motivation of insurgents is the need to earn a paycheck."
"Ninety percent of the guys out here who do attacks are just people who want to feed their families," Maj. Kelly Kendrick, operations officer for the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division in Salahuddin, tells the Times.
Stolen oil profits are helping to keep the insurgency running, according to Sunday's report.
The Times notes, "The sea of oil under Iraq is supposed to rebuild the nation and then make it prosper. But at least one-third, and possibly much more, of the fuel from Iraq's largest refinery here is diverted to the black market, according to U.S. military officials. Tankers are hijacked, drivers are bribed, papers are forged and meters are manipulated -- and some of the earnings go to insurgents who are still killing more than 100 Iraqis a week."
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/NYT_Stolen_oil_profits_keep_Iraqs_0315.htm...
So
my poor daughter who was raised by this single dad. She's got it pretty rough. I recognized that she would get attention for her looks a long time ago but she is like the most modest nun-like 18 year old you will ever meet and I don't worry too much about her. She comes home with her recent friend from her college today. So she introduces me to her. She is also gorgeous and has a similar frame. She tells me that she is Armenian and a Muslim. If you know any Armenian's you might understand how pretty she is. Anyway, I'm not sure why she told me that but I was so dumb and not knowing what to say. I asked her if she knew of any Turks remembering Anna Kasperian from TYT. I feel so stupid. Right after I said it I remembered the resolution about the genocides. She just laughed and said her sister is married to one.
SNL coming up
will they do a parody of Wright or will they spoof on Obama's experience???
Here it comes. They are highlighting Spitzer.
Random comments from media on prostitution
In New York, attorney Ron Kuby said the criminal justice system might not be ready for tougher laws, the kind Spitzer advocated.
"Most judges regard prostitution as a largely harmless vice, a commercial transaction for sex," he said. "What's the difference between that and a noncommercial transaction for sex? Kristen making $2,700 an hour with her clothes off, and the people who complain wouldn't mind if she was making minimum wage mucking out toilets with her clothes on."
Besides, she would not be able to live in midtown Manhattan on a maid's wages.
**Lesbian Chic**
bad news
WIMAX interferes with satellite transmissions. That means the much anticipated broad band access at a reasonable cost for rural areas will not get it and will depend instead on much more expensive infrastructure. This affects farming and interstate traffic on long routes. I was really hoping this technology would shrink the world further....
and....
Ghettodefender, thanks for that link. I've been reading a lot about that goof ball. People get cranky when you bring up how goofy it is.
worser news:
US West Coast Braced For Ban on Salmon Fishing As Stocks Collapse.
by Andrew Gumbel
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/14/7696/
saw that SJ
and thought of you. Glad for the link.
Have you seen THIS?
I'll tell ya what I know.
I grew up right on the beach in South Texas.
It's a very fertile area. The waters come up off the Amazon and the gulf stream feeds all the way to Greenland. When I was a kid and living by the port I had many days that there would be nothing to do but go to the beach. It was a short walk I took often and early in the day.
The tide would leave or start to leave then. A few days and plagues of jelly fish would come to shore. Maybe there would be sand dollars that day or clams. One day a huge dead plague of clams showed up and we made decorations with the shells. They were large clams SJ. There were still good fishing days in Texas last I checked but the critters kept coming up larger and more of them and dead when I was a kid. You go on even deep sea fishing expeditions and you get scavengers. That's never good. South Texas is not an ocean desert. It is probably the reason you don't see an Atlantic plastic continent however. Like in the one in the Pacific. It scoops up a lot of trash on those beaches. It composts at a price. I swear if a mutant form invades it will come from those toxic places.

eya fer!
SOS DD!
the article is fairly good,
the reponse posts are about 60% no links, 30% have'nt a clue, and 10% sounding like they actually know something.
Wall Street fears for next Great Depression
Sunday, 16 March 2008
Wall Street is bracing itself for another week of roller-coaster trading after more than $300bn (£150m) was wiped off the US equity markets on Friday following the emergency funding package put together by the Federal Reserve and JPMorgan Chase to rescue Bear Stearns.
One UK economist warned that the world is now close to a 1930s-like Great Depression, while New York traders said they had never experienced such fear. The Fed's emergency funding procedure was first used in the Depression and has rarely been used since.
A Goldman Sachs trader in New York said: "Everyone is in a total state of shock, aghast at what is happening. No one wants to talk, let alone deal; we're just standing by waiting. Everyone is nervous about what is going to emerge when trading starts tomorrow."
In the UK, Michael Taylor, a senior market strategist at Lombard, the economics consultancy, said on Friday night: "We have all been talking about a 1970s-style crisis but as each day goes by this looks more like the 1930s. No one has any clue as to where this is going to end; it's a self-feeding disaster." Mr Taylor, who had been relatively optimistic, has turned bearish: "It really does look as though the UK is now heading for a recession. The credit-crunch means that even if the Bank of England cuts rates again, the banks are in such a bad way they are unlikely to pass cuts on."
Mr Taylor added that he expects a sharp downturn in the real UK economy as the public and companies stop borrowing. "We have never seen anything like this before. This is new territory for us. Liquidity is being pumped into the system but the banks are not taking any notice. This is all about confidence. The more the central banks do, the more the banks seem to ignore what's going on."..........
Chinese security forces swarm Tibet
It was the fiercest challenge to Beijing's authority in nearly two decades.
MAUREEN DOWD: Soft Shoe in Hard Times
WASHINGTON
Everyone here is flummoxed about why the president is in such a fine mood.
The dollar’s crumpling, the recession’s thundering, the Dow’s bungee-jumping and the world’s disapproving, yet George Bush has turned into Gene Kelly, tap dancing and singing in a one-man review called “The Most Happy Fella.”
“I’m coming to you as an optimistic fellow,” he told the Economic Club of New York on Friday. His manner — chortling and joshing — was in odd juxtaposition to the Fed’s bailing out the imploding Bear Stearns and his own acknowledgment that “our economy obviously is going through a tough time,” that gas prices are spiking, and that folks “are concerned about making their bills.”
He began by laughingly calling the latest news on the economic meltdown “a interesting moment” and ended by saying that “our energy policy has not been very wise” and that there was “no quick fix” on gasp-inducing gas prices.
“You know, I guess the best way to describe government policy is like a person trying to drive a car in a rough patch,” he said. “If you ever get stuck in a situation like that, you know full well it’s important not to overcorrect, because when you overcorrect you end up in the ditch.”
Dude, you’re already in the ditch...........
Even Coast to Coast is tapping the Hooker Scandals ! ;)
Sat 03.15 >>
Jeane Palfrey (aka the D.C. Madam) will talk about how "adult service agencies" are a powerful political weapon.
Then, publisher of Mysterious World, Doug Elwell will discuss his recent work on the mysteries of Ireland including fairies, giants and an analysis of the writings of Tolkien.
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
Anybody get a "Purple Abe" yet?
Federal Reserve sends out new $5 bills

Check out my "Purple Abe Preview" from Dec. 07
More Monopoly Money! The Purple Abe!
Welcome to The Banana Republic of America!
More economics news in this Sunday's Brick TeeVee
Brick TeeVee Economics 1-Oh!-1 (with surrogates)
B R I C K T E E V E E
image ©2006 arkysue
in 1983
i compared all the Cannery totals from 1883 with ALL the various salmon catches in 1983.
we had less than 3% of the 1883 catch that year.
now? may be less than 1% wild salmon now.
i won't go into details. a quote tho...
Only after the last tree has been cut down,
Only after the last river has been poisoned
Only after the last fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten.
- Cree Indian Prophecy
==Anybody get a "Purple Abe" yet?==
not me .... I just checked my wallet. I have a bunch of new 5's some place gave me last week .... thought maybe I would have one.
ah, the Cree SJ
I put most Indians (such as myself ... 1/4 Aztec) in the Druid category.
I really can't tell much apart from their ways of life and my own.


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hi guys
made it to Idaho -- with my sister
snow and cold here. quite a change.
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Jamesbennett
How close to Boise are you JB
?
Hi jbenet
Hope everything is going as good as it can.
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eya jbenet!
ain't LA that's for sure!
well fer
u probby got way better refridgaration than most...
jbenet's the refridgaration king
we fled the cold a long time ago. What is that? Warm weather doesn't bother me but cold is uncomfortable.
Rachel Corrie's Case for Justice
Five Years Later
Rachel Corrie's Case for Justice
By TOM WRIGHT and THERESE SALIBA
The darkness is infinite
As I leave the curtain's edge
It is filled with watchers
Silent judges
--Rachel Corrie, about 11 years old
As their plane touches down in Tel Aviv this week, Cindy and Craig Corrie will mark five years since their daughter's death. On March 16, 2003, Rachel Corrie, 23, was crushed to death beneath an armored Israeli bulldozer. The Corries are a short distance from Gaza, where Rachel was killed, and where in the past few weeks, an Israeli military incursion killed over 100 Palestinians, including many women and children.
This week, the Corries come to Israel to attend the first Arabic-language performance of the acclaimed one-woman play, My Name is Rachel Corrie.
Compelling though her story was -- an American peace activist killed trying to block the demolition of her Palestinian host family's home, killed by the military of her own government's major regional ally -- Rachel's story might well have faded quickly, subsumed in the weekly news cycle just three days before the "Shock and Awe" of the attack on Iraq. But her family's instinct, even in the first hours of grief and bewilderment, felt imperative: "We must get her words out." Rachel's emails home during her month in the Gazan border town of Rafah, volunteering with the International Solidarity Movement, had stirred and shaken her family and friends. Having traveled from her comfortable life in her hometown of Olympia, Washington, she had sat smoking late into the night, passionately reporting the other-worldly scenes of violence and destruction from the military occupation around her.
From Rachel's habit since childhood of journal-keeping and poetry-writing, her parents knew her to be a writing talent of great originality and promise, and they sensed that her dispatches from Gaza could have a broader reach. Editors at the Guardian in London felt similarly, and told the Corries that Rachel's words "connected readers to the occupation more than anything they had read in a long while." The Corries granted the London newspaper permission to publish the e-mails nearly in total, yet to their knowledge, no U.S newspaper picked them up. [The first way many met Rachel was through CounterPunch which published many of her dispatches, before and after her death. AC / JSC ]
http://www.counterpunch.org/wright03152008.html
**Lesbian Chic**
For the ones who failed...
It's all a game
You're not the same
Your famous name
The price of fame
Oh no
Try to liberate me
I said oh no
Stay and irritate me
I said oh no
Try to elevate me
I said oh no
Just a fallen hero
Don't wanna hear about the drugs you're taking
Don't wanna read about the love you're making
Don't wanna hear about the life you're faking
Don't wanna read about the muck they're raking
You sang your song
For much too long
The songs they're wrong
The bread has gone
Oh no
Try to liberate me
I said oh no
Stay and irritate me
I said oh no
Try to elevate me
I said oh no
Just a fallen hero
Don't wanna hear about the drugs you're taking
Don't wanna read about the love you're making
Don't wanna hear about the life you're faking
Don't wanna read about the muck they're raking
It's all a game
You're not the same
Your famous name
The price of fame
Oh no
Try to liberate me
I said oh no
Stay and irritate me
I said oh no
Try to elevate me
I said oh no
Just a fallen hero
[Oh, you're just a fallen hero]
Don't wanna hear about the drugs you're taking
Don't wanna read about the love you're making
Don't wanna hear about the life you're faking
Don't wanna read about the muck they're raking
Don't wanna find out what you've been taking
Don't wanna read about the love you're making
Don't wanna hear about the life you're faking
Don't wanna read about the muck they're raking
Peanuts!!! peanuts!!
Peanuts!!!!!!
In Memoriam
~ Rachel Corrie ~
1979 - 2003
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/
Now that's a good post.
So
Submitted by Fernando on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 11:23pm.
my poor daughter who was raised by this single dad. She's got it pretty rough. I recognized that she would get attention for her looks a long time ago but she is like the most modest nun-like 18 year old you will ever meet and I don't worry too much about her. She comes home with her recent friend from her college today. So she introduces me to her. She is also gorgeous and has a similar frame. She tells me that she is Armenian and a Muslim. If you know any Armenian's you might understand how pretty she is. Anyway, I'm not sure why she told me that but I was so dumb and not knowing what to say. I asked her if she knew of any Turks remembering Anna Kasperian from TYT. I feel so stupid. Right after I said it I remembered the resolution about the genocides. She just laughed and said her sister is married to one.
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I like that. Personal experience makes for the best posts.
Dominating The Dojo
Dogs
Here's Billie. She's not even a year old. And what a pain in the ass. She's always in trouble. But look at her.
Dojo cont. (with an O)
Just look at that snout
I tried
to beware of the ides of March but I got stabbed in the back by my best friend.
"et tu Lucy?"
Okay, I'm loving this guy's work.
Those bastards! it goes on today. Our Nuclear Legacy
Uranium mining left a legacy of death
Published: Tuesday, Feb. 13, 2001 1:02 p.m. MST
Those living in downstream states like Arizona and California say it is a small price to pay for safe drinking water. Survivors of the uranium frenzy scoff, recalling how they dumped countless tons of radioactive tailings into the Colorado, San Juan and La Plata rivers over the years.
Piles of raw ore with unprofitable concentrations of uranium now lie beneath Lake Powell.
.....
And then there is the problem of an estimated 5,000 abandoned uranium mines.
Mark Mesch, who heads the state's abandoned mine reclamation program, recalls how in 1998 he was conducting a bat survey inside one mine near Blanding when he noticed a bright orange object tucked into a drill hole. It was a plastic egg, presumably left behind by a family who used the mine for an Easter egg hunt.
January 15, 2008
Today I read that they are doing a study on the ill effects of uranium mining which is slated to be open in Chatam, Virginia, about 40 miles from my home and school where I work. I was told our Governor is a proponent for the mines because there is about 10 billion dollars worth of raw material which would greatly help the state's economy. The local people stand helpless as the political machine is moving forward on this catastrophe. God help us and our children when they finally get their way.
==
Nukewatch Pathfinder - Summer 2004
Uranium Resources, Inc. plans to start mining operations
by 2005 at its Vasquez site 60 miles west of Corpus Christi,
Texas. The company needs to raise $5.5 million to finance the
extraction. Other producers are searching for new, higher grade
deposits. One of the areas attracting interest is the rim
of the Grand Canyon. Several small mines have already gone
into operation within 20 kilometers of the Canyon despite
protests from the Havasupai, who live just downstream, and
the Hopi, who consider the area sacred.
[I wrote a review of the Environmental Impact Statement for this site circa 1994. One of the holes in the EIS is to get the government to approve the specs for the construction of the tailings containment pond so that when a "freak" storm washes the containment pond out, the company is not responsible, because the government approved the plan. That actually happened at the Kanab mine on the north rim.

This site, upstream of Havasupai, is very concentrated - high quality yellow cake. The source is deep and was discovered by the use of space technology which showed a hot spot. If the site is developed, and the site washes out, it will contaminate this...
[yes the water is that color]
One tenth of U.S. known uranium ore reserves are on
Indian Reservations. Targeted peoples and reservations include:
Navajo, Acoma, Laguna, Spokane, Rose Bud,
Edgemont, Havasupai, Hopi and Bell Fourche.
The Navajo and environmental organizations have
been fighting federal subsidies to Hydor Resource, Inc. —
$30 million over the last three years — as it attempts to
open its Crownpoint Uranium Project, northwest of Albuquerque.
[this Crownpoint action is still a current battle]
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Jamesbennett
eya dada
billie is the epitome of
"cute lil fart!"
Prostitution and Male Power
Weekend Edition
In the American Media, It's All About the John
Prostitution and Male Power
By GAIL DINES
Prostitution is hot news on both sides of the Atlantic. In the United States, Eliot Spitzer is being treated by the media as a fallen hero, a tragic figure brought down by recklessness. Some are even acting like a bunch of frat boys, snickering at a pal who got caught with his pants down. The British press, on the other hand, is more serious and sedate; and it's focused on the women. It took five dead women to get the British media to recognize that prostitution is not all fun and games for those who sell sex for money. Serial killer Steve Wright was convicted last month for murdering five women working as prostitutes in Ipswich, England, and his trial revealed just how deadly prostitution can be. The prosecution said Wright "systematically selected and murdered" all five women over a six-and-a-half-week period, and the press reports that he left two of the bodies in a cruciform position with arms outstretched.
In the American coverage of Spitzer, it's all about the "john": Spitzer's meteoric rise to fame and power, his national political ambitions, his political blunders, and now the "tragedy" of his disgrace. The women he paid for sex have been treated as hardly worth a mention. The dangers and violence of prostitution have been ignored. Even if the women used by Spitzer were well paid, they never had a shot at state attorney general or governor. We have not heard about the tragedy for most women who enter prostitution because of poverty, childhood sexual abuse, a drug habit, or a pimp-boyfriend, and live in fear that their next john could turn out to be another Steve Wright. Even if the john is not an actual murderer, there is a high risk of violence and rape. In a study of 130 prostitutes, Melissa Farley and Howard Barkan, found that 82% had been physically assaulted; 83% had been threatened with a weapon; and 68% had been raped while working as prostitutes.
As a way to avoid the reality of prostitution, the American media keep talking about a "high-priced" prostitution ring, as if the up-market end of the industry has nothing to do with the more "low-class" street prostitution. The media images thrown at us depict these high-end "escorts" as hot, young attractive model-lookalikes who stash their big bucks away and end up living a life of luxury. Who, after all, can forget Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman, looking glamorous as she is being carried away into the sunset by her handsome john, in the form of Richard Gere? For many of these women, life may not be as dangerous on a daily level, but their bodies are still commodities to be bought and sold by men who see them as disposable sex objects to be used for male entertainment.
Prostitution is at its very core, an absolute expression of male power and women's lack of choices, and no amount of up-market-chic can change that. But in place of an analysis that situates prostitution within the context of sexual and economic inequality, the media give us (mostly male) talking heads. For these pundits, Spitzer was caught making a mistake and now he has to pay for it. We all know that "power corrupts", but there has been no discussion of the particular way in which men with political power abuse their position in a sexual way. Neither has there been any discussion of what it means for a political leader, who holds very real power over our lives, to treat women as "pussy", to be bought, shipped, and traded like cattle. Women pay the price for men like Spitzer, and it's no surprise that women everywhere make up the majority of the poor, the hungry and the over-worked. As long as men with a john mentality get elected to office, there is no change in sight.
Gail Dines, a sociology professor at Wheelock College in Boston, is co-producer of a powerpoint slide show on pornography that is available by writing stoppornculture@gmail.com
**Lesbian Chic**
In New York no one can here you scream.
thanks
"If the site is developed, and the site washes out, it will contaminate this..."
my head just exploded
Brady the beagle
Here's Brady, one of the beagles. Brady is crazy about food, even more than average. When he's done eating, he just sits there, licking the bowl. Even the outside of the bowl. He'd eat the bowl if he could.
and then the drugs kicked in.
you trainin them?
brady looks he'd dance and shake hands for doggie bits.
What a cutie, huh?
Yeah... until you're chasing him away from eating another dogs shit. Brady, get away from there, that's disgusting!
Don't worry, that's just a toy he's playing with there.
Too much desire, not enough love
hi, again - : )
nice post Fernando, re personal experience. Boise is about 400 mi. west
this is considered 'Eastern' Idaho
Caught a radio show driving through the Navajo REZ Thursday about the uranium mining. One of the interviewees mentioned 5000 abandoned uranium mines is South Dakota. Another guy was talking about Canada and how heavy industry has historically targeted rural economically poor areas [well that is where the stuff is.] But the companies take advantage of the lack of oversight. The point being the myth that "remote" equals "pure" is just that. Remote far from population centers means contaminated ground water etc.
~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett
g'nar! rofl!
gooduns mel!
you trainin them?
Yeah, we're training Billie and a few others. Some are already trained. Some are around 15 years old, and have been coming since they were puppies.
We've got about 30 dogs a day. They're a good pack usually. Of course without fail when the doorbell rings, and 3 phonecalls come at once, the dogs will go wild to put on a show for the guests, but when it's just you and them, everything settles down. They're all sweet dogs.
oh baby!
crawling off to the woods
now means having a resource mining map.
sigh...
All we can offer them is a page on somebody's blog...
How can you say that you're not responsible?
What does it have to do with me?
What is my reaction, what should it be?
Confronted by this latest atrocity
Driven to tears
Hide my face in my hands, shame wells in my throat
My comfortable existence is reduced to a shallow meaningless party
Seems that when some innocent die
All we can offer them is a page in a some magazine
Too many cameras and not enough food
'Cause this is what we've seen
Driven to tears
Protest is futile, nothing seems to get through
What's to become of our world, who knows what to do?
Driven to tears
ya dada
when they bark
wave a munchie under their nose
and you can walk em anywhere you want.
lessee... Possibility hikoo
things that would work if
only you could get enough people
to do it at the same time
Hudson the Vizla
Here's Hudson. He's a Vizla, they're Hungarian hunting dogs. Very popular in the area where I work for some reason. I'd never heard of them before.
Well exactly.
wha?
Jim
Boycott. Recycle. Share. Ignore Trolls. Vote your conscience (not your wallet). Orgy.
Just off the top of my head.
No, seriously...
Not everyone is stoned on this blog. We have some lard-ass crackerjack passing us a slice of fruitcake now and then.
The problem we have as I perceive it, is...
the white man is living in tremendous fear and guilt, and he wants the black man to save his ass.
It's staggering.
"you can walk em anywhere you want."
Ya, I'm pretty liberal with the treats. I find it works best. Speak loudly, and carry a big dog biscuit. They respect that. In return, they're teaching me psychic dog language.
&
thank you dada. Mel, I'm ripping you off as I type.
Leyna
White german shepard. Just a puppy. She'll be a year old on April 6th.
Well said mel
Well exactly.
Mel on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 2:57am.
The importance of a medium lies in its limitations.
nice pic of Leyna dada
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Jamesbennett
Leyna!
/Mel, I'm ripping you off as I type.//
Don't take my PC. My friends live in there.
You can have everything else.
If you need it.
Leyna in profile.
Leyna!
dogs are a lot closer to reality
than congress is
Yeah...if you're a vampire.
Sunshine Jim - Cree Indian Prophecy
Only after the last tree has been cut down,
Only after the last river has been poisoned
Only after the last fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten.
- Cree Indian Prophecy
Well said!
(side note: ya can't eat gold or silver either)
~ ~ ~
An old friend from HS told me about how he buys his tobacco products on-line from the Seneca Nation.
That got me to thinking that there are soveriegn nations within the borders of the US of A. Of course, the Nations have been fighting in court for decades! The case I'm familiar with is
Eastern Shawnee suit claims Ohio land rights
Enquirer Columbus Bureau
COLUMBUS - The Eastern Shawnee tribe from Oklahoma filed a federal lawsuit in Toledo Monday claiming ownership rights to land in three western Ohio counties as well as "hunting, fishing and gathering" rights in 33 other counties - including all of Clermont County, most of Hamilton County and parts of Butler and Warren counties.
Tribal lawyer Mason D. Morisset of Seattle, Wash., said the aboriginal hunting and gathering claim could ultimately lead to new uses for the 11,000 square miles of land - from casinos to simply a museum honoring the Shawnee. Or it could simply yield surprising guests in local back yards.
"All of Indian Hill would be part of the area where hunting, fishing and gathering could take place," said Terry Casey, a Columbus lobbyist hired by the Indian tribe. "I gather most people would not want that on their private property."
Thanks for the quote, Jim!
(ya know, it's so profound, i will distribute it widely)
Thanks Dorothy.
wow dada
is that a bitch? Stunning.
got here at 4am yesterday
asked that someone would be up to let me in.
Step-dad opened the front door as I drove up - to let the cat out.
My sister was kind of awake - only took a moment to accept the change in her appearance - [cancer, fading day to day for those who don't know] I got in bed with her and held her for a while - was so good for both of us.
Got the wifi working and am bloging down the hall from her. I can hear when she wakes up. I just want to be around and help her back to sleep. Good talent to have in this situation, my sparkling personality puts her to sleep. : )
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Jamesbennett
Sorry
I'm not myself.
Mel?
does that comic imply that we are all one? If so, I would respectfully like to concur.
Here's a picture for Chubby.
Dougie and Nelson in the poky.
The door is really open, out of the shot on the right. They're just hanging out in there, because the blanket just came out of the dryer.
You can't start a fire without a spark.
jbenet on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 3:26am.
can you get any reflections and leave them on the blog buddy?
memories are important and if you can document anything, please do.
Passing took a new impact once recorded internet came online. Just sayin.
we are the keepers of the key
(i always loved cranky but faithful guardians in the stories)
I tried
to concur once. But too many people were doing it at the same time. So I stopped.
is that a bitch? Stunning.
Ya, she's a real sweetheart. Just a puppy.
At least the ones that we all know by name
Once that you've decided on a killing
First you make a stone of your heart
And if you find that your hands are still willing
Then you can turn a murder into art
There really isn't any need for bloodshed
You just do it with a little more finesse
If you can slip a tablet into someones coffee
Then it avoids an awful lot of mess
Its murder by numbers, one, two, three
Its as easy to learn as your abc
Murder by numbers, one, two, three
Its as easy to learn as your abc
Now if you have a taste for this experience
And you're flushed with your very first success
Then you must try a twosome or a threesome
And you'll find your conscience bothers you much less
Because murder is like anything you take to
Its a habit-forming need for more and more
You can bump off every member of your family
And anybody else you find a bore
Because its murder by numbers, one, two, three
Its as easy to learn as your abc
Murder by numbers, one, two, three
Its as easy to learn as your abc
Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious
In history's great dark hall of fame
All our greatest killers were industrious
At least the ones that we all know by name
But you can reach the top of your profession
If you become the leader of the land
For murder is the sport of the elected
And you don't need to lift a finger of your hand
Because its murder by numbers, one, two, three
Its as easy to learn as your abc
Murder by numbers, one, two, three
Its as easy to learn as your a, b, c, d, e... W
dada on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 3:28am.
the white tan and black dog in that picture looks like the dog my granny had. Pinto. His colors were tan where that one's white and vise versa.
and, true Mel. Sick.
The suspense is terrible... I hope it'll last.
A stranger's just a friend you haven't met.
When you go chasing Wabbits
And if you go chasing rabbits

And you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Recall Alice
When she was just small
VOTE DASH-N-DOT 2008!
Sadie
Sadie is 16 years old. Her back legs don't work so well, because she had a stroke. But she's still going strong. She still has some bark left in her. And she eats like a dog half her age. She loves being around the pack.
national sacrifice area
Race, Sacrifice, and Native Lands
Tar Creek is only one example of how places and communities have been "sacrificed" for the American way of life. This sacrifice has been recognized by the US government in a National Academy of Sciences study, which concluded that some areas of the country could be used for national priorities irrespective of the resulting permanent environmental damage. Such places are designated "National Sacrifice Areas."
Until recently, there has not been empirical data documenting the various environmental threats which impact Indian communities and tribal peoples. However, Jeff Tomhave, the other co-writer of this piece, is currently shepherding a three-year research project unprecedented in its scope. The project marks the first time ever that tribes are being asked to supply information as to what they know or suspect to be hazardous waste contamination from manufacturing, municipal landfills, mining, and defense and energy activities on or near their land (see http://www.taswer.org/ [don't think link is current] for more information on the tribal hazardous contamination study).
Google the phrase - national sacrifice area
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Jamesbennett
sadies' about a 112 or so
well loved and lucky.
Alien vs. Bunny
Nelson
I guess that's enough for now. I'll do more some other time.
that pic of Sadie
is awsome dada. Surreal.
on other issues

http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/76-1/Bogus%20macro2.pdf
yawnerz!
snooze time for this kid.
love ya all!
Skitty
He's a real talker. I love when cats talk.
Night Jim.
May your dreams be in technicolor.
'bout time for me, too.
Catch you all tomorrow.
Percy
Night...
later sj
.
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Jamesbennett
Last one, I swear.
nice photos dada
sweet dreams to you too
~`~`~`~`~`~
Jamesbennett
Goodnight
Alice did not feel encouraged to ask any more questions about it, so she turned to the Mock Turtle, and said "What else had you to learn?"
"Well, there was Mystery," the Mock Turtle replied, counting off the subjects on his flappers, "--Mystery, ancient and modern, with Seaography: then Drawling--the Drawling-master was an old conger-eel, that used to come once a week: HE taught us Drawling, Stretching, and Fainting in Coils."
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That's my time... you've been a wonderful audience.
Goodnight.
Nite you 3
thanks for the pics dada...it's cool how you know them so well, I'll bet their care takers appreciate that...
*
Mel I like those 3-frame images you're posting...
*
Saturday night nakedtivity...
Hey A.
I was just leaving but then you walked in and I feel like staying.
I liked 'em too
But they started to get too dark so I went with the bunny instead.
-Mark Twain
“Naked people have little or no influence in society.”
I disagree
Society itself is conceived in the nude.
nakedtivity...?
Lucy
has taken to hanging out next to, sometimes under the radiator. (which gets unbelievably hot) Have you ever seen a cat do that?
My eyes won't stay open
And for some reason I can't stop crying. So I think that's my cue.
Or is that queue?
Is there a waiting list to get out of this place?
Do you have to know someone if you want to leave?
I'm sure I'm on the list. Check again.
Okay.
Bye.
{{HUGS}}
Mel....
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Imma drop this
cause I've been ill and slept all day and now I'm wired.
Why am I wired? I made chicken & rice soup. I feel like a new biped.
5 chicken popsicles
4 carrots
1 yellow onion
1 Jalapeno
3/4 cups long grain rice
1 can corn
thyme (shit load)
bit o bouillon
limes
thaw, dice semi fronzen cicknensicles.
large pot o water on high heat to boil
boil chickenbits 20-30min
add
4 carrots peeled & diced
1 yellow onion diced
1 Jalapeno sliced
3/4 cups long grain rice
1 can corn
thyme (shit load) 2 tablespoons at least
bit o bouillon to taste.
Boil 45 min.
dude Mchale just had a kid and had Eliot Spitzer on the Soup.
are McCain, Barbara Walters, and Larry King the first peoples?
Serve with limes

Ozone Rules Weakened at Bush's Behest
Ozone Rules Weakened at Bush's Behest
EPA Scrambles To Justify Action
[if the president brakes the law - and then rewrites the law to make it so that he's not breaking the law- that's not breaking the law...]
"It is unprecedented and an unlawful act of political interference for the president personally to override a decision that the Clean Air Act leaves exclusively to EPA's expert scientific judgment," said John Walke, clean-air director for the Natural Resources Defense Council.
The president's order prompted a scramble by administration officials to rewrite the regulations to avoid a conflict with past EPA statements on the harm caused by ozone.
Solicitor General Paul D. Clement warned administration officials late Tuesday night that the rules contradicted the EPA's past submissions to the Supreme Court, according to sources familiar with the conversation. As a consequence, administration lawyers hustled to craft new legal justifications for the weakened standard.
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Jamesbennett
and mel
I remember that as
Tony Curtis during the filming of Spartacus

"Who do I have to f*ck to get off this movie"
nite mel - I'm hungry fernando.
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Jamesbennett
Iraq Insurgency Runs on Stolen Oil Profits
Iraq Insurgency Runs on Stolen Oil Profits
Interesting how all the graphs have the same bell curve. Attacks are down - but so is everything else.

troops, electricity production, gas supply
[graphic link on above page]
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Jamesbennett
(No subject)
Alice,thanks for for posting Rockwell,earlier..
I was just thinking of that song lastnite..
It was on the radio alot when my late wife & I first meet..
I was on a cool R&B/Soul music blog last nite..And,I wanted to find that song..Didn't but,you did,,Thanks..
I'll email ya the link..
Synchronicity :)
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
"even though China put the death toll at 10"
At least 80 people have been killed in unrest following protests by Tibetans against Chinese rule, the Tibetan government in exile says.
...
Loudspeakers broadcast messages, such as: "Discern between enemies and friends, maintain order."
...
In an interview with the BBC, the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan spiritual leader, said he feared there would be more deaths unless Beijing changed its policies towards Tibet, which it has ruled since invading in 1950.
"It has become really very, very tense. Now today and yesterday, the Tibetan side is determined. The Chinese side also equally determined. So that means, the result: killing, more suffering," he said.
"Ultimately, the Chinese government is clinging of policy, not looking at the reality. They simply feel they have gun - so they can control. Obviously they can control. But they cannot control human mind," he warned.
...
I asked her if she knew of any Turks
my little ones tutor is and her name is "Ceylan" pronounced Jaylin...she is beautiful and so sweet...i asked her if the movie midnight express was true...she burst out laughing
Good Morning Ladies :)
Interesting & fun stuff upthread..
Sad things too....
And,doggies ! :)
Thanks.
Love this place. :)
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
Oh that's cool, MM...glad I could help..
Yeah I'd love to see the link...You probably know this, but Rockwell is Berry Gordy's son...
The Semantics of "God", by Robert Anton Wilson
May 1959
while doing laundry am reading the news
Obama Expands Delegate Lead Over Clinton
DES MOINES, Iowa — Democrat Barack Obama expanded his fragile lead in delegates over rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday, picking up nine delegates as Iowa activists took the next step in picking delegates to the national convention.
More than half the 14 delegates allocated to John Edwards on the basis of caucus night projections switched Saturday to Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/15/obama-expands-delegate-le_n_917...
Protesters across the world
Protesters across the world condemn Iraq war
LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Thousands of protestors marched against the Iraq war in Los Angeles on Saturday as part of a global day of action that drew huge crowds in London and smaller protests elsewhere in Europe and Canada.
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Police said about 2,000 people marched through Hollywood, while organizers put the figure at 10,000. They carried banners denouncing President George W. Bush and urged an end to the conflict in Iraq, where 155,000 US troops are deployed.
Earlier, thousands of people gathered in London and the Scottish city of Glasgow ahead of the fifth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq on March 20, calling for the withdrawal of British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Police in London said there were 10,000 on the streets but organizers the Stop the War Coalition put the crowds at between 30,000 to 40,000. In Glasgow police estimated between 1,000 to 1,500 protesters at the height of the march.
In Los Angeles, Vietnam war veteran Ron Kovic, whose book "Born on the Fourth of July" was turned into a film with Tom Cruise, joined the march down Hollywood Boulevard in his wheelchair.
Shot and paralyzed in Vietnam 40 years ago, he told AFP he felt "sorrow" and "anguish" for the Iraqi people and for the US men and women fighting there "who are suffering, who are losing their arms and legs, who are being killed."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080316/ts_alt_afp/usiraqafghanistanprotest
WD?
Writers Strike at DailyKos
by Alegre
Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 05:13:21 PM PDT
This is an open letter to the progressive blogosphere...
I’ve been posting at DailyKos for nearly 4 years now and started writing diaries in support of Hillary Clinton back in June of last year. Over the past few months I’ve noticed that things have become progressively more abusive toward my candidate and her supporters.
I’ve put up with the abuse and anger because I’ve always believed in what our on-line community has tried to accomplish in this world. No more. DailyKos is not the site it once was thanks to the abusive nature of certain members of our community.
I’ve decided to go on "strike" and will refrain from posting here as long as the administrators allow the more disruptive members of our community to trash Hillary Clinton and distort her record without any fear of consequence or retribution. I will not be posting at DailyKos effective immediately. I will not help drive up traffic or page-hits as long as my candidate – a good and fine DEMOCRAT - is attacked in such a horrid and sexist manner not only by other diarists, but by several of those posting to the front page.
There's more
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/14/20827/4727/132/476843
Here's the Sunday talking
Here's the Sunday talking head line-up for today:
ABC's This Week: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. Roundtable: Ruth Marcus, Washington Post; Mark Halperin, Time Magazine; Donna Brazile; George Will.
CBS' Face The Nation: Leon Panetta, Clinton Supporter v Gov. Deval Patrick (D-MA), Obama Supporter. David Brooks, New York Times; Clarence Page, Chicago Tribune.
CNN's Late Edition: U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. Gene Sperling, Clinton Economic Adviser; Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain Economic Adviser. Robin Wright, Washington Post. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Clinton Campaign v Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Obama Campaign.
Fox News Sunday: Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY), Clinton supporter v Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), Obama supporter. U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.
NBC's Meet The Press: Bill Bradley, Obama supporter v Nita Lowey (D-NY), Clinton Supporter. David Broder, Washington Post; David Gregory, NBC News; Michele Norris, NPR.
Chris Matthews: Rick Stengel, Time Magazine; Andrea Mitchell, NBC News; Michelle Cottle, The New Republic; Eugene Robinson, Washington Post.
Sixty Minutes: The Wrong Medicine: Dennis Quaid's newborn twins nearly died when they were mistakenly given a drug overdose. The actor and his wife share their story to draw attention to hospital mistakes that kill as many as 100,000 Americans a year. Steve Kroft reports. The Science Of Sleep: Scientists are discovering that sleep is far more critical to human health than previously believed and have linked sleep deprivation to serious problems such as diabetes, obesity and heart disease. Lesley Stahl reports this double length segment.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/sunday-talking-head-thread-93/
iran
Al Qaeda In Iraq Far Stronger Than Bush Administration Admitting
WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five years ago to develop into a major killer.
The militants are weakened, battered, perhaps even desperate, by most U.S. accounts. But far from being "routed," as Defense Secretary Robert Gates claimed last month, they're still there, still deadly active and likely to remain far into the future, military and other officials told The Associated Press.
Commanders and the other officials commented in a series of interviews and assessments discussing persistent violence in Iraq and intelligence judgments there and in the U.S.
Putting the squeeze on al-Qaida in Iraq was a primary objective of the revised U.S. military strategy that Gen. David Petraeus inherited when he became the top commander in Baghdad 13 months ago. The goal _ largely achieved _ was to minimize the group's ability to inflame sectarian violence, which at the time was so intense that some characterized Iraq as trapped in a civil war.
However, the militants are proving they can survive even the most suffocating U.S. military pressure.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/15/al-qaeda-in-iraq-far-stro_n_916...
U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.
whats got him jumping from pillar to post this early sunday morning?mmmm
Sunday Cartoons....
Warner Bros. Inc Merrie Melodies present Bugs Bunny in Rabbit Fire, co-starring Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd. Music by Carl Stalling. Voices by Mel Blanc. Directed by Charles M. Jones.
Be bery bery qwiet I'm hunting wabbits.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/15/late-late-nite-fdl-rabbit-fire/
"It's the economy, Stupid!"
Seems this statement is coming back into style.
Paulson knows it's a problem and now it is reflecting on Bush Jr as it did on Bush Sr. But Junior always wants to out do his father, and on the economy and the wars he has surpassed any previous president in screwing up both.
Tiny Iowa town rescinds $5
Tiny Iowa town rescinds $5 cat bounty
Tiny Iowa Town Rescinds $5 Bounty on Stray Cats, Opts for Catch and Release Program
MELANIE S. WELTE
AP News
Mar 15, 2008 03:20 EST
Cat haters, nevermind: The tiny town of Randolph has rescinded a $5 bounty on feral feline.
Instead, the southwest Iowa town of 200 people has agreed to work with animal rescue groups on a catch, neuter and release program.
"We've told them to get it lined up to do it," Mayor Vince Trively said Friday.
The City Council approved the bounty after receiving numerous complaints about feral cats. Under the initial policy, which went into effect March 1, stray cats without collars would be taken to a veterinarian, and if they weren't claimed, they'd be euthanized. That caused an uproar among animal lovers.
On Thursday, the city voted to end the bounty and form a task force involving three organizations, Maryland-based Alley Cat Allies, Best Friends Animal Society of Utah and Feline Friendz in Nebraska.
"We're very keenly interested in helping this community. The mayor is reaching out for help," said Barbara Williamson of the Best Friends group.
The task force will meet next week to devise a plan, which the City Council will consider on Thursday, said Elizabeth Parowski, spokeswoman for Alley Cat Allies.
"What will happen is the cats that are truly feral will return to the outdoors and the cats that are strays that are actually socialized will be adopted into homes," Parowski said.
Sherry Haftings of Feline Friendz said she already has several veterinarians lined up to help, but a lot more needs to be done.
"There's going to be shelters that need to be built, cat food that needs to be donated, traps that we need, towels that we need," she said. "There's a lot of who's going to coordinate which end of it."
Trively still wants the cats gone — and said returning them to town is not a solution.
"How would you like it if a dozen cats come around there every morning as you tried to feed pets and they gobble up food and chased your pets away and then left a calling card on your yard or walk to step on?" he asked.
When the bounty was in place, two cats — one of them pregnant — were turned in. The mayor said the first cat was ill and died.
Feline Friends eventually picked up the second cat. Haftings said it was doing fine.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Tiny_Iowa_town_rescinds_5_cat_bount...
Progressively more abusive toward my candidate and her supporter
Hahahahahahahahahahaha...
I bet you didn't say a word about 7 years of 3% attacks on Bush!!!!
Ya gotta love the 3%!!!
Fubar Fubared
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hz3wSSUG1jutdVjde2upbfjrIkVAD8VEHFG00
..."Our bar is done. The crane crashed the whole building," said John LaGreco, who owned a tavern called Fubar in the brownstone's ground floor. "The crane crashed the whole building. If I wasn't watching a Yankees game, I would've come to work early and gotten killed."
Fubar was closed at the time but an employee, Juan Perez, was inside, LaGreco said. Perez was pulled from the rubble about 3 1/2 hours after the building was crushed. His leg was fractured, LeGreco said...
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A bar named Fubar is fucked up beyond all repair. How could the AP writer resist the obvious?
(Sam should rush down there to toss a copy of his book in the rubble. Free publicity opportunities don't grow on trees.)
oo.oo before i go---chis wallace is very very very upset
that he does not know obama and his past...did i mention that he is upset?
Hinckley Ridge Buzzards
on the 15th of March and the Swallows of Capsitrano on the 19th of March.
Both signs of Spring.
And there's a squirl sitting on the rail of my balcony making chirping noises and looking in my window.
Let us bow our heads and
croll
P
ast
I
diotic
T
rolls
Let's all go down to Fubar and get smashed..
Well, someone had to say it...
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Lucille
Mike Wallace should have slapped his wife when Chris was born. What an embarrassment.
The boy ain't right, I tell ya!
DAVID CORN ON KILLARY& MCINSANE
TBR News March 14, 2008
The Voice of the White House
Washington , D.C. , March 13, 2008 : “Interesting piece of news of the duplicity of everyone inside the Beltway. The McCain people are terrified lest Crazy John’s religious nut preachers’ jabberings make serious trouble for him. In a typical alliance, the Clinton people have given the McCain people some tapes of a very emotional Chicago black minister, attacking the white establishment for years of harassment of the black community. The McCain people, in turn, using Karl Rove’s hate networks, are planning a Swift Boat type of attack on Obama to deflect public attention from McCain’s vicious friends in the religious right. This is really interesting, if repulsive, because the black- stocking Republicans hate blacks, Asians, Jews, Communists, homosexuals, and liberals, equally. You ought to listen to some of their jovial chats sometime. It sounds like something heard in Nazi party circles in pre-war Germany . While wishing to appear supporters of blacks, the Clintons, both of them, are livid with rage that a black man is kicking Hillary’s huge ass. She thought she would be a walk-in for the Democratic nomination but now that she sees her long sought-after prize slipping from her grip, she and her people have become so frantic that they have no problem dealing with McCain, or even the vile Bush toadies.. Ergo, the Hillary people turned over inflammatory tapes by a black minister, Obama’s pastor, to the enemy in order to destroy her enemy. This is the old Mafia slogan that says the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Hillary is known to be a sell-out to the business establishment while Obama is less certain in his allegiances so the corporate structure will support her and McCain jointly and do everything they can to trash him. Bismarck once said that many enemies meant much honor and that is certainly true now. As Hillary perceives that she might not become President, she morphs from patronizing the nice black people to screaming silent curses at the uppity nigger that is more successful in public than she is. The real loser in all of this filth- flinging is the American public and it goes almost without saying that we deserve better than both Republican and Democratic chronic and escalating vileness. Why not address the issues? Why? The Clinton people are in bed with the people who are the power elite and Obama is not.”
John McCain's "Spiritual Guide" Calls For Destruction Of Islam
March 12, 2008-
by David Corn
Mother Jones
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2823.htm
Chris Wallace
ia a step son to Mike Wallace. Different DNA.
Andrea Mitchell was coming out of her seat..
..to get indictments nailed to Spitzer. I'm sure that was her walking orders from hubby when she left for the studio this morning.
(I don't know how anyone can watch Chris Wallace, he turns my stomach. I feel for his [step]-dad.)
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bluerootsradio
Crank, you should email that to Sam
Fubar Fubared
Submitted by Crank Bait on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 10:15am.
The 3% Rev
The 3% Rev say Goddamn America!
Obama says God-bless America!
Michelle Obama is proud of America for the first time!
From whom do you think she has learned the most?
INSANE McCAIN 2008!
Draft those young college Republicans to serve their corporate masters
More war
Less jobs
Republicans See Storm Clouds Gathering
Washington Post
While all eyes were on the presidential campaign and the demise of New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer (D) last week, Republicans on Capitol Hill were suffering a run of bad news that could hold dire implications for the campaign season.
It started with the loss last weekend of the seat held for two decades by former House speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). It got worse when Republicans lost potentially strong challengers to Democratic senators in South Dakota and New Jersey, and failed to field anyone to oppose the reelection bid of Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.).
The latest blow came with the revelation that the former treasurer of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) had allegedly diverted hundreds of thousands of dollars -- and possibly as much as $1 million -- from the organization's depleted coffers to his own bank accounts.
If Republicans needed any more evidence of how difficult this fall may be, the past week had it all, analysts said. The Illinois race demonstrated new levels of disaffection, the party's efforts to go on offense elsewhere were thwarted by recruiting failures, and the NRCC scandal will divert campaign resources and could frighten off badly needed contributors, they said.
"It's no mystery," said Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.). "You have a very unhappy electorate, which is no surprise, with oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular. He's just killed the Republican brand.".......
Here's the squirrel playing peek-a-boo...
Insane McCains good points
McCain was not born here
McCain has not released his taxes
McCain loves blond lobbiests the best
McCain's wife has mob ties (and a fleet of Budweiser Beer trucks)
McCain will adapt his policy to the highest bidder
McCain has forgiven the GOP
The Rothchilds LOVE McCain
INSANE MCCAIN 2008
versatile and oh so accommodating
toniD on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 11:10am.
did you take that picture toniD?
pbtrue1, don't for get McCain's wife has her own fleet of beer trucks.
I did Fernando
It is through a very dirty window on the outside. It's not great but I wanted to get the squirrel.
McCain Fund Raising in London
He can't get any money in the USA has to travel to London on the US Taxpayers dime to beg for money from the British.
McCain's campaign has sent out an invitation for a March 20 luncheon at Spencer House -- the neo-classical home built for an ancestor of Diana, the late Princess of Wales -- "by kind permission of Lord Rothschild OM GBE and the Hon. Nathaniel Rothschild."
The price to attend is $1000 to $2,300. And the dress code for the event? "Lounge suits" -- British for business attire.
McUkraine connection
“In five short years, the man in line to be the fifth Baron Rothschild is close to becoming a billionaire through a web of private equity investments in Ukraine, Eastern Europe and most significant, his partnership stake in Atticus Capital, the fast-growing $14 billion hedge fund.”
Mr. Rothschild is a principal adviser to Oleg Deripaska, one of the richest oligarchs in Russia and the owner of the aluminum giant Rusal, which recently merged with two other companies to create the world’s largest aluminum company. Mr. Rothschild received no public credit despite having played a crucial role in getting the deal done.
Google deripaska mccain
= squirrel playing peek-a-boo...=
Huckabee calls it peek-a-boom-lunch.
Did you just hear Michelle Norris' spiel on Rev. Wright?
I'll paraphrase for the pea-brained-bigot's amongst us...
She explained that, for sure, the small number of Wright's remarks (which have been played in heavy rotation on the cable news networks) are incendiary, but they are a tiny example of the measure of the full man. Also you will notice the "Amen Corner" was in full swing with those remarks because they hit home with many of the congregation.
So what we have here are a very few remarks replayed very many times so as to get drilled into the right wing zombies rote memory so they can come uninvited under the guise of free speech and spew their out of context message.
It's the same thing they did with Michelle Obama. She said for the first time, in a long time, she was REALLY proud of American. Any freethinking logical person would gather that she has been proud all along but at that point was even more proud.
I know that's too much for the biased/prejudiced/uncritical thinkers who try to muck up the blog.
Personally I agree with just about everything the good Rev. said. This country's arrogance and one-sided military misuse of power has brought us the grief we now suffer. 9/11 was a direct response to our continued military presence on the Arabian peninsula ... PERIOD.
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$200 Billion Taxpayer Bail Out of Bear Sterns ..
Bush/Republican love throwing money to their friends... they just lost any arguement they had against Universal Healthcare.
Attacking The Facts
Submitted by Part of the 97 ... on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 10:01am.
I bet you didn't say a word about 7 years of 3% attacks on Bush!!!!
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Submitted by Kevin © on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 10:58am.
..."It's no mystery," said Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.). "You have a very unhappy electorate, which is no surprise, with oil at $108 a barrel, stocks down a few thousand points, a war in Iraq with no end in sight and a president who is still very, very unpopular. He's just killed the Republican brand."...
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With Republican friends like these, who needs enemies?
Piper
peeping sleeping
Chicago Trib exonerates
Chicago Trib exonerates Obama on Rezko, 100%
by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/16/2008 08:38:00 AM ET · Link
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As Joe noted last night, the Chicago Tribune editorial board has exonerated Obama 100% regarding his involvement in the so-called Rezko scandal. This is no small feat, as the Trib has a conservative editorial board, and the Trib is the paper that broke the Rezko story in the first place. Who'd have ever imagined that sitting down and candidly telling the truth could get you out of a pickle? There is now nothing more of substance that the Republicans (or Hillary) can throw at Obama. We may have our first Teflon Democrat in a very long time. And that's a quality the Clintons will never be able to claim.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/obama-answers-rezko-questions-in.html
eh
Hillary surrogate just said "when we start to get out of Iraq in 2011".
Hillary's not serious about getting out.
My squirrels are militant toniD. They claim their oak trees with a pitbull demeanor. Watch that little furry terrorist. They can turn on a dime and will chew anything to shreds.
Submitted by maggiesboy on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 11:26am.
The Bush/Republican backers are trying their best to deflect any talk on the Wiped-out economy and the 5th year in Iraq.
Have to try and spin that preachers speech.
Saw Chris Wallace upset that it's a dead issue.
Wonder why Wallace doesn't get his panties in a bunch over this:
Hagee, pastor of the 16,000-member Cornerstone Church, last week had announced a "slave sale" to raise funds for high school seniors in his church bulletin, "The Cluster."
The item was introduced with the sentence "Slavery in America is returning to Cornerstone" and ended with "Make plans to come and go home with a slave."
The Wall Street Journal also noted the incident in a July 27, 2006, article:
To help students seeking odd jobs, his church newsletter, The Cluster, advertised a "slave" sale. "Slavery in America is returning to Cornerstone," it said. "Make plans to come and go home with a slave." Mr. Hagee apologized but, in a radio interview, protested about pressure to be "politically correct" and joked that perhaps his pet dog should be called a "canine American."
In What Every Man Wants in a Woman, Hagee wrote (Page 14):
Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist.
He further wrote that "[o]nly a Spirit-filled woman can submit to her husband's lead. It is the natural desire of a woman to lead through feminine manipulation of the man." He added that a woman is, "by instinct, a manipulator of the situation. Fallen women will try to dominate the marriage. The man has the God-given role to be the loving leader of the home" (Page 12-13).
Morning everybody...
Will this be the week when
Will this be the week when Senator Vitter and Senator Craig resign?
by Chris in Paris · 3/16/2008 05:42:00 AM ET · Link
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You know, the men who were caught cheating on their wives that have long been forgotten. Spitzer was wrong, but weren't they as well? Why are both still in office while Spitzer has resigned? Spitzer was wrong but I'm still trying to figure out how it is that he resigned within days yet Larry Craig and David Vitter are still in office. The GOP was rolling on the floor laughing this week when Spitzer went down but I'm almost surprised that Fox didn't interview Newt Gingrinch, Vitter or Craig and have them tell us about the evils of sex outside of marriage and how it's destroying America much the way the media has used Bill Bennett when they are seeking moral guidance on one issue or another. It's a tricky game to understand who is supposed to resign in disgrace when you see this.
Meanwhile while Wall Street and the GOP were all laughing Americans shoveled $200 billion to Wall Street all based on a guarantee of $200 billion in subprime loans that nobody was ever going to buy. Funny, isn't it? Ha, ha, ha. Joke's on us.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/will-this-be-week-when-senator-vitter...
Winter Solider
I - for some reason can't get a clear feed to watch the coverage
of it.
Anyone else have that problem?
Who is the next bailout
Who is the next bailout target?
by Chris in Paris · 3/16/2008 05:14:00 AM ET · Link
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Just how much money do these freeloaders want from taxpayers? The previously pro free market crowd is now calling for bailouts, hand over fist, because we just can't have a domino effect. Sure. Great. Perhaps. But where was all of this concern when they were raking in billions in fluff? Everyone made their healthy commissions, bonuses flowed and lobbyist money kept the wheels of democracy running. Why are we now supposed to spring into action to bail out a system that they all wanted?
The worst of this bailout is that the US government is committing so many billions without even debating where the money goes or who is it helping. Are we now picking up the tab for Wall Street bonuses? Let Wall Street pay back the commissions and bonuses that were based on this trash and then let's talk. Their excuse is that they need to retain the good people who weren't part of the problems. Frankly, I don't care. The management made these problems and even today, we have Prince (Citibank), O'Neil (Merrill Lynch) and others who walked away with tens of millions all based on buying and selling trash. Let them pay it back and let's ask for all of the money that others made on selling trash and then let's talk. If they don't want to, fine, but don't ask for more money. Why are we giving bailout money without debate?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/business/15risk.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slog...
Kevin,
The Rothchilds fortune (International Bankers, Fed Reserve, IMF, World Bank) is more like a Gazillion Trillions, and I was surprised to see that name in public, they try to keep a very low profile, working through their associates instead.
Without the GOP, they could not have sucked the United States of America dry.
Fascinating study.
From Hagee's What Every Man
From Hagee's What Every Man Wants from a Woman:
Only a Spirit-filled woman can submit to her husband's lead. It is the natural desire of a woman to lead through feminine manipulation of the man. The battle of the sexes began in Genesis 3:16, when God said to the woman, "Your craving shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you." In the Art Scroll Tanach Series, author Meir Zolotowitz stated, "Woman's punishment is measure for measure. She influenced her husband and he ate at her command. Her punishment was that she would now become subservient to him."
Bush on economy: leave it
Bush on economy: leave it alone and it will somehow work out
by Chris in Paris · 3/15/2008 09:02:00 PM ET · Link
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Make no mistake that we're in this situation because people like Bush and the McCain economic advisers wanted it this way. The problems are nowhere near the end and will continue to bleed but the Bush/GOP plan is to just throw money at the source of the problem. This is their plan for everything, throw cash and when your hands are empty, print more and throw that. Sheesh.
Why don't we "let the market decide" and watch the gamblers of Wall Street all collapse? Letting the market decide is what *they* wanted so why bail them out now? A dose of proper oversight could have limited the impact of the collapse and the run on the bank like at Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, but no, that's not what they wanted. Why print more money and give it away when the bums can't even admit they have a problem?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=ApMpye.3WWr...
pbtrue1
==they try to keep a very low profile, working through their associates instead.
Without the GOP, they could not have sucked the United States of America dry.==
Maybe that's why McCain is doing this in another country ... maybe he thought nobody would find out.
Wonder how legal it is to raise money from Foreigners for a USA election?
smcgee43 on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 11:42am.
nope. Very choppy.
coming in now. Yikes how terrible.
Winter Solider Submitted by
Winter Solider
Submitted by smcgee43 on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 11:42am.
I - for some reason can't get a clear feed to watch the coverage
of it.
Anyone else have that problem?
This site has audio can't remember if it has Video ...
http://kpfa.org/
CREW: KEEP OR RETURN THE CASH? VITTER v. SPITZER
Washington, DC – In light of the National Republican Congressional Committee’s call for candidates and members of Congress to return soon-to-be former Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s (D) donations, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) wonders why members and the National Republican Senatorial Committee have not returned Sen. David Vitter’s (R-LA) contributions. As widely reported, Sen. Vitter has solicited prostitutes in the past. Rather than being condemned and ostracized, Sen. Vitter received a standing ovation at a Republican Caucus luncheon after his transgressions became public.
rest of the story
Kev, good thing McCain wasn't born here
==they try to keep a very low profile, working through their associates instead.
Without the GOP, they could not have sucked the United States of America dry.==
Maybe that's why McCain is doing this in another country ... maybe he thought nobody would find out.
Wonder how legal it is to raise money from Foreigners for a USA election?
and it does state on there somewhere that only USA citizens are allowed to donate to the campaign.
This is like an announced emergency Bilderberg meeting. they are scared
lol
Fact Or Fantasy?
Today on Face The Nation, David Brooks stated (in a response to questioning about the "Dream Ticket") that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama dislike one another.
Has anyone read, heard or dreamed anything from anyone anywhere to support Brooks' statement?
I have not but maybe I missed it? Or maybe Brooks pulled that one out of his ass.
Quick Time Feed
sucks. Maybe I need a tune-up (newer version of Quick Time?)
What do you think Fernando??
I know you have a P.C. & your getting a shit picture to.
Brooks pulled that one out of his ass.
Some asses have a higher capacity than others...
I heard it comes with practice.
leave it alone and it will somehow work out
kinda how he treated his many addictions.
a-hole!
Some asses produce more shit than others
suitable for punditry
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Hillary and Barack are
Hillary and Barack are behaving as if they don't like each other.
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Hillary doesn't like anyone
who could stand in her way on the Quest for POWER and GLORY in the NEW WORLD ORDER!
All hail the Queen of Babylon!
pfffft
IVAW
Streaming video via real player:
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Or maybe Brooks pulled that one out of his ass.
Brooks: Oops ... looks like I'm gonna need a new ass.
8-)
Quick Time Feed
Quick Time Feed
Submitted by smcgee43 on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 12:00pm.
sucks. Maybe I need a tune-up (newer version of Quick Time?)
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I'm watching it now on QT 7.4.1 and it has very clear audio and video
Whenever someone tries to
Whenever someone tries to tell you we are under more threat than ever before, think about these guys.
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smcgee43 on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 12:00pm.
my feed is clear now. These are amazing stories. I wish you could see it.
This guy taking now is using so many words.
smcgee43...
Click your blue "Apple" icon | Software Update
It will tell you everything that's not current on your iMac and go fetch it for you.
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george being disingenuous and naive
March 14, 2008
President Bush Visits the Economic Club of New York
New York Hilton
New York, New York
George sez....
But these aren't American values; they're universal values.
And the danger of getting tired during this world [sic] is any retreat by the America -- by America was going to be to the benefit of those who want to do us harm.
Now, I understand that since September the 11th, the great tendency is to say, we're no longer in danger. Well, that's false. That's false hope. It's either disingenuous or naive, and either one of those attitudes is unrealistic.
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wow - that makes absolutely no sense.
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Jamesbennett
NEW THREAD
I wish that I had your problem - -
"I'm watching it now on QT 7.4.1 and it has very clear audio and video"
What the fuck am I doing wrong (if it is me)
toniD - how is your real player feed? Mine is better that the QT feed.
I would of thought that since I have a SEXY IMAC that I would be able to get
an excellent feed - - but I guess Im wrong. Its not the first time I've been
wrong.
Meg
What kind of car is that? I see a 57 Chevy behind it.
Or maybe Brooks pulled that
Or maybe Brooks pulled that one out of his ass.
new
Submitted by Kevin © on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 12:10pm.
Brooks: Oops ... looks like I'm gonna need a new ass.
Memo:
Attention!
Attention;
Ass blowout on Stage 9!
Call Tucker...ASAP
Meg
I had one of those cars
was my 2nd ,was blue and had a smashed headlight.
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Meg's Mom
way cool picture Meg
Beautiful Mom,
beautiful car.
1960?
YOU CUT ME TO THE QUICK!
Submitted by toniD on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 12:25pm.
What kind of car is that? I see a 57 Chevy behind it.
--David Brook's Ass News Service--
Dateline Rectum, Ne - Yes, I David Brooks Ass, did claim that Hillary and Barack don't like each other. My source is myself.
Its a Karman Ghia
Its a Karman Ghia (sp?)
Probably 1960-ish.
My grandmother freaked when she saw she had bought a convertible. Heh heh
Yeah my mom is awesome.
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Glad you made it safe and sound.
Love is a wonderful thing, cherish it.
George doesn't make sense.
and sometimes the dude speaks in code
*adjusts tin-foil*
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smcgee43...
If your software is up to date then it's a question of bandwidth imho. I'll call everyone in your neighborhood and tell them to turn off their 'puters.
Cool! Laura Flanders is doing the interviewing now...
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Submitted by Meg on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 12:33pm.
Its a Karman Ghia (sp?)
Probably 1960-ish.
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Karmann Ghia. Could be 1960 through 1964. 1963 was a very big production and sales year for Karmann Ghias.