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"We’re at the moment when Hillary needs Obama more than the world needs Hillary"
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One election at a time...

Unless the Democratic National Committee steps in and end the primary race, it will be a disaster.

That's no moon.
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Submitted by Mel on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 9:15pm.

That's a space station.

Garfield minus Garfield
Submitted by Mel on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 5:43pm.

http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/

Brilliant

I meant you're right, pbtrue1.
All of these years- and I still can't type and think at the same time.

That's got to be from the Necronomicon.

Ad Meiorum Cthulhi Gloriam

Black Magic Mind War

By William Burroughs , Crawdaddy, July, 1976

Now anyone who has lived for any time in countries like Morocco where magic is widely practiced has probably seen a curse work. I have. However, the curses tend to be hit or miss, depending on the skill and power of the operator and the susceptibility of the victim. And that isn't good enough for the CIA or similar organization: "Bring us the ones that work not sometimes but every time." So what is the logical step forward? TO DEVISE MACHINES THAT CAN CONCENTRATE AND DIRECT PSYCHIC FORCE WITH PREDICTABLE EFFECTS. (See the chapter in the Iron Curtain book on PSYCHIC GENERATORS.) I suggest that what the CIA is or was working on at the top secret Nevada installation may be described as COMPUTERIZED black magic. If curse A doesn't make it, Curse Program B automatically goes into operation and so on.

I recommend to your attention a book called The Mind Masters by John Rossman, a Signet New American Library paperback. This is ostensibly a fantastic science fiction novel, interesting more for its content than for its style, that may well contain some real inside information. The story concerns a researcher who has, to put it mildly, been disillusioned by his work on Project Pandora, an American psychic training center run by a Colonel Pickett, who is strongly reminiscent of the mad General Ripper in Doctor Strangelove, right down to the cigar. Only he is unloosing psychic warfare rather than nuclear bombs, having convinced himself that this form of warfare is more effective and more easily controlled for elitist objectives. The disillusioned researcher, one Britt St. Vincent, is contact d by Mero, a private institute dedicated to opposing these black magic centers. (It should be obvious that only BLACK magic has "military applications.")

After he is taken to Mero's secret headquarters ... he recalls for Britt how the CIA, while making an electronic sweep of the U.S. embassy in Moscow for listening devices, discovered some very unusual electromagnetic emanations pulsing through the building. (Only months ago it came out that the Soviets had stepped up the power to a point where Embassy officials and their families were in danger from the high-voltage microwave radiation, which can cause confusion, migraines, and even death). Not long after, the CIA confirmed that this was in fact part of a much larger psychic attack on the Embassy.... Britt learns that similar psychic research is still advancing rapidly in China, France, Israel, Egypt, South Africa and Chile, in addition to the United States and Russia. "Although these scattered groups are currently working to beat each other to the secret of powers that will give them world control, there is a good possibility that they could even now join forces and make a COMBINED bid for world control and at this moment they appear to stand an almost even chance of succeeding if they join forces."

"And what will the future look like if such groups actually exist and if they do combine and take over? An elitist world state very much along the lines laid down by the NAZIS. At the top would be a theocracy trained in PSYCHIC CONTROL TECHNIQUES IMPLEMENTED BY COMPUTERIZED ELECTRONIC DEVICES THAT WOULD RENDER OPPOSITION PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND PHYSIOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. Entry to this privileged class would be permitted only to those whose dedication to the world state was absolute and unquestioning. In short, you don't get in by merit or ability but by being an ALL-AROUND 100 PERCENT SHIT. Under this ruling elite of power addicts would be an anonymous service collective of functionaries, managers and bureaucrats. And below them the slave workers. There would be no place for dissent or independent research. The troublesome artist would be eliminated or absorbed. The elite lives happily ever after, at the top of a control state that makes 1984 seem cozy and nostalgic.

"Remember: always be brief, polite and respectful when contacting the media, so our voices will be taken seriously."

Why should we take the high road when they don't? Our (dissenting) voices are always shut out or ridiculed, and not given enough time to make our point or our words are twisted. Doncha think they are counting on us to be polite and subservient while they drag us over the coals, then eat "long pig"?

Regardless, I keep trying, however fruitless that may be. I worry that in order to "right" things we must become as evil and relentless as "they" are. Do you have advice for how kind people can become ruthless?

Sigh.

Carlyle Capital..

Couldn't have happened to a more worthy family !

WASHINGTON—Senator John McCain has been averaging a fund-raiser a day in America’s pockets of affluence – hotel ballrooms in New York, Atlanta, Chicago – but now he will expand his pursuit of campaign donations at a $1,000-a-plate lunch at the 18th century Spencer House in London.

The transatlantic fund-raiser, to be held March 20 at the home built by the first Earl Spencer, an ancestor of Diana, the late Princess of Wales, comes at the end of a foreign trip that Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, has repeatedly said is not political. Mr. McCain is to travel to London, Paris and the Middle East next week with Senator Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina Republican, and Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the Connecticut independent.

“I do want to emphasize again that the three of us are going as members of the Armed Services Committee,’’ Mr. McCain told reporters on his campaign bus in Philadelphia on Friday. “And we will emphasize that at every stop.’’

But the trip, which is to include meetings with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel, Prime Minister Gordon Brown of Great Britain and President Nicolas Sarkozy of France, will serve as a promotion of the senator’s foreign policy credentials at a time when his two Democratic competitors, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, are still battling for their party’s nomination.

Jill Hazelbaker, Mr. McCain’s campaign spokeswoman, said in an e-mail message on Friday that Congress would be reimbursed for the political portions of Mr. McCain’s trip, including Mr. McCain’s flight home, when he will travel separately from the rest of the Congressional delegation.

“We are also paying for the fund-raiser and his hotel that evening in London,’’ Ms. Hazelbaker said in the e-mail.

Free Democracy

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

ability to be ruthless.

this thin veneer of social benaviour

does make things nicer.

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Night gang

love you all!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Hope ya feel better soon. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I wonder how many of that `can-you-hear-me' crowd is NSA?

Bush is Mr Obvious on the economy
by Chris in Paris · 3/14/2008 09:34:00 PM ET · Link
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Well, putting aside the ridiculous lie that he was out in front of this problem, he seems to appreciate that we're in a mess.

Trying to calm jitters about the economy, President Bush conceded on Friday that the country "obviously is going through a tough time" but expressed confidence about a rebound.

I'm confident we will recover as well. It's going to be long after Bush is gone but sure, we will get through it as long as we wake up to the need to provide responsible regulation instead of ignoring crazy Wall Street ideas that lead to $200 billion bailouts. Just say "no" to Republican economics. We can't afford another GOP administration.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23632091

Just finished watching the clip of Obama on Countdown.

Toward the end of the interview Obama addressed the bigger picture of race in America saying that he will use this controversy as an opportunity to talk about race. He also put into context the fact that Rev. Wright is a product of the 60's and still holds a lot of anger. That he (Obama) did not live through the same civil rights struggles. That we are now in a transition in this country in the way we talk about race. I was encouraged by this. He was acknowledging our country's history and saying he wants to help bring our country forward.

i liked that--

morning yourll

better yet....Haha!

you little geek you...how could i have doubted you!

giggle

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=55b55706-0352-477b-b08c-f4255...

Keith Olbermann is No Edward R. Murrow

"Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar." - Edward R. Murrow
Keith Olbermann's special comment was something else. As if this race needed more stoking of the fires, Olbermann did not miss his chance to chime in with an anti-Clinton crowd pleaser. He started by thanking the Clintons, then ripped the scab off of every primary wound that's come before today. At one point the pompous anchorman actually squealed "David Duke," while doing the Obama camp's greatest hits, resurrecting them all, including Bill Clinton in South Carolina. The delivery was so overwrought and dramatic at one point I was almost convinced he was going to start talking about Jesus, then ask for cash. But what exactly does his opinion mean anymore?

"To be persuasive we must be believable; to be believable we must be credible; credible we must be truthful." - Edward R. Murrow

Countdown long ago became The Obama Hour, and Mr. Olbermann's protestations to the contrary are ridiculous. Keith Olbermann is simply carrying the candidate's anti-Clinton message openly on cable. But the anchorman's rhetoric has now reached screech:

OLBERMANN: I'm sorry to sound speechless. It seems remarkable to me that a campaign being run in the 21st century or even the second half of the 20th century would allow itself to be associated in any kind of way and not step back. If it was two African Americans running against each other, and one of them had somebody say this on behalf of their candidate, that the other guy is only in there because he's equal opportunity, or there's been some sort of quota system, or that he's a black man--does it not have disaster written all over it, or are we living in South Africa? (via "Countdown" transcript)
South Africa? Using the apartheid card against Hillary Clinton. Mr. Olbermann evidently is taking his cue from Orlando Patterson. It would be nice if either of these men were correct on their facts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/keith-olbermann-is-no-edw_b_9...

Mukasey: Don't Execute The 9/11 Plotters And Make Them Martyrs

LONDON — U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey said Friday he hopes the men charged with participating in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks are not executed if found guilty to avoid making martyrs of them.

Mukasey said many terrorists want to be martyrs and that by sentencing them to death, U.S. authorities risk granting those wishes. He made the comments while answering a question after a talk at the London School of Economics.

However, Mukasey said that the punishment would be fitting if the accused are convicted.

"One of them at least is proud enough of it to have written to his wife that he thinks he is innocent because it was only 3,000 (people who died in the attacks)," he said. "If those are not poster children for the death penalty I don't know who is."

Still, Mukasey said he leans against the death penalty in this case because "many of them want to be martyrs."

The attorney general said his view was a personal opinion. The Justice Department will participate in the trial, he said, but the Defense Department will be in charge.

The U.S. military is moving ahead with plans to try six men at Guantanamo Bay. The six high-profile detainees include Khalid Sheikh Mohammed _ the alleged architect of the attacks against the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington _ and Mohammed al-Qahtani, who allegedly would have been one of the hijackers if immigration officers had not prevented him from entering the United States.

Military prosecutors have requested the death penalty, but a Pentagon panel must agree to the prosecutors' recommendations before they are presented to the defense and the military court, U.S. Justice spokesman Dean Boyd said in Washington. That panel has yet to issue its ruling, he said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/14/mukasey-dont-execute-th_n_91656...

C.I.A. Secretly Held Qaeda Suspect, Officials Say

WASHINGTON — The Central Intelligence Agency secretly detained a suspected member of Al Qaeda for at least six months beginning last summer as part of a program in which C.I.A. officers have been authorized by President Bush to use harsh interrogation techniques, American officials said Friday.

The suspect, Muhammad Rahim, is the first Qaeda prisoner in nearly a year who intelligence officials have acknowledged has been in C.I.A. detention. The C.I.A. emptied its secret prisons in the fall of 2006, when it moved 14 prisoners to Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, but made clear that the facilities could be used in the future to house high-level terrorism suspects.

Mr. Bush has defended the use of the secret prisons as a vital tool in American counterterrorism efforts, and last July he signed an executive order that formally reiterated the C.I.A.’s authority to use interrogation techniques more coercive than those permitted by the Pentagon.

Mr. Bush used his veto power last weekend to block legislation that would have prohibited the agency from using the techniques, and this week the House of Representatives failed to override the veto.

Military and intelligence officials said that Mr. Rahim was transferred earlier this week to the military prison at Guantánamo Bay. In a message to agency employees on Friday, Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the C.I.A. director, said Mr. Rahim had been put into the C.I.A. program because of “his past and the continuing threat he presented to American interests.”

Intelligence officials would not say whether the C.I.A. had used any of what it calls an approved list of “enhanced” interrogation techniques against Mr. Rahim during his months in secret detention.

“This detention, like others, was conducted in accordance with U.S. law,” said Paul Gimigliano, a C.I.A. spokesman. He declined to say whether the C.I.A. currently had custody of any other prisoners.

Government officials described Mr. Rahim, an Afghan who has fought battles for two decades, as a Qaeda planner and facilitator who at times in recent years had been a translator for Osama bin Laden.

They said he was captured and detained by local forces last summer in a country they would not name before being transferred to C.I.A. custody. Pakistani newspapers reported last summer that Pakistani operatives arrested Mr. Rahim in Lahore in August.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/washington/15detain.html?_r=1&hp=&adxn...

Jeremiah Wright Steps Down From Obama Campaign
By Eric Kleefeld - March 14, 2008, 9:58PM
In the response to the controversies surrounding recently-aired videos of his sermons, Barack Obama's former pastor Jeremiah Wright has resigned his from honorary membership on the campaign's African American Religious Leadership Committee. NBC News says it's unclear whether Wright left of his own initiative, or if he was asked to leave.

Earlier today, Obama put up a long blog post explicitly condemning "any statement that disparages our great country" that Wright has made, while simultaneously standing by the man himself and his church — a delicate balancing act, to say the least, and probably not one that Obama was happy to find himself having to perform.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/jeremiah_wright_...

I feel so lonely using by myself.

PRD Group to shape legacy at George W. Bush presidential library
the chaos of "experts" who try to interpret a cluster fuck begins

Dallas' red light cameras may face changes as revenue estimate drops
unable to create laws we won't bow to, the burden of paying for domination sets in

Border fence opponents join 9-day march against wall in South Texas
hundreds protest the mandatory division of land and families just because some sleep on plastic sheets

XTC-Senses Working Overtime

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Dallas pays ACS a guaranteed $3,799 per month for each operational camera, and just a fraction of that to maintain inoperative cameras.

its interesting that they extended the yellow for some intersections. some municipalities went the other way to increase their revenue. whats really missing from this is common sense. if they changed the cyle to be red from all directions for 1 second, and provide a reasonable yellow based on the speed limit, the safety issue would be addressed, including the aspect that red light cameras cause people to slam on their brakes and have rear enders.

a few threads back crnkr wrote:

A successful president is skilled in the art of assembling sharp and experienced experts around him/her and has an exceptional intellect capable of comprehending and sorting through the reams of advice s/he is given.

i couldn't agree more which is why i think this "experience" theme is a bunch of hooey. bushtards failings weren't from lack of experience (he had none), it was from being a moron and surrounding himeslef with morons.

Looks like Bush might have bankrupted his Daddy's piggy bank.

Submitted by MMRules on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 2:45am.
Carlyle Capital..
Couldn't have happened to a more worthy family !
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I have to admit, I felt a short lived pang of satisfaction myself.
Then I remembered:

The biggest crooks never play with their own money. They play with the pensions, retirement funds, and properties of others. Why do you think those CEOs of failed institutions were paid so well? They did the masters bidding.

Indebted servitude. Will those KBR camps be the slave labor camps of those who "owe the company store"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBkrAESUbyI
Tennessee Ernie Ford - Sixteen Tons

http://www.safehaven.com/showarticle.cfm?id=3276

[...]
The origin of the 1920's stock market bubble, notes Economist Murray Rothbard was that, in order to "assist" Britain in artificially maintaining the strength of its currency while it was in economic decline, America increased its money stock by an average of 7.7% annually over an 8 year period from 1921 to 1929. In his words, it was "a very sizable degree of (monetary) inflation"7 and "the entire monetary expansion took place in money substitutes which are products of credit creation... The prime factor in generating the (monetary) inflation of the 1920's was the increase in the total bank reserves."8

Yet, like today, while the 1920's economy roared ahead, consumer price inflation was apparently tame while the stock market appeared "reasonably" priced. Rothbard notes "The fact that general prices were more or less stable during the 1920's told most economists that there was no inflationary threat, and therefore the events of the great depression caught them completely unaware."9 Economists who support manipulation of the economy by varying the money stock and interest rates are dubbed "monetarists". The father of modern monetarism and the Quantity Theory of Money, which is the basis of central bankers' expansion of the money supply, is Irving Fisher, who was himself so enthused about future prospects that in October 1929, one week before the markets crashed, he made his famous (mis)statement:

"Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. I do not feel that there will soon, if ever, be a fifty or sixty point break below present levels as Mr. Babson has predicted. I expect to see the stock market a good deal higher than it is today within a few months."10
Irving Fisher

The DOW would decline 89% from its 1929 peak value of 381 bottoming 3 years later in 1932 at 40. Fisher who had a net personal wealth of $10 million from designing and patenting the Rolodex, lost his entire fortune in the crash and ultimately died penniless. But his Quantity Theory of Money still built favor with economists, politicians and central bankers of the future.
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Olbermann, Obama at Huffington Post

MMRules
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Submitted by pbtrue1 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 10:08am.
Looks like Bush might have bankrupted his Daddy's piggy bank
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Talk about Not Learning from others mistakes/History !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

http://www.youtube.com/v/OF5OtSO3j6I

THE SOGGY BOTTOM BOYS- Man of Constant Sorrow.

Obama Issues Statement Regarding Rev. Wright at Huffington Post
By Noel Sheppard | March 14, 2008 - 19:46 ET

Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama issued a statement on Friday regarding Rev. Jeremiah Wright's racist and anti-American comments, and amazingly published his response to the rising controversy at the far-left, Bush-hating -- and oftentimes vulgarity laden -- Huffington Post.

I kid you not.

As my colleague Mark Finkelstein reported Thursday, Obama's spiritual leader for the past 20 years has encouraged his congregation to sing "God Damn America," stated from the pulpit that our nation is the "U.S of KKK A," and declared that America deserved to be attacked on 9/11.

On Friday, Obama tried to distance himself from these abominations:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/03/14/obama-issues-state...

Newsbusters? The worst of Right wing spin.
Good to know how they are spinning this.

How are you feeling to day?
and
Did you like my poem?
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/2656

One election at a time...

Exile Group Says 30 Killed in Tibet

BEIJING — China kept government workers confined to their offices Saturday and ordered tourists out of Tibet's capital while lines of soldiers sealed off streets where riots had erupted, witnesses said. A Tibetan exile group said at least 30 people were killed in protests Friday.

Chinese state media reported that at least 10 people were killed when demonstrators rampaged in Lhasa Friday, protesting Chinese rule. The Dalai Lama's exiled Tibetan government in India said it had confirmed at least 30 dead but said the toll could be as high as 100.

There was no confirmation from Chinese officials of the death toll and the numbers could not be independently verified.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

BEIJING (AP) _ China locked down the Tibetan capital Saturday after the largest and most violent protests against its rule in the region in nearly two decades. At least 10 people were killed when demonstrators rampaged through Lhasa, dashing Beijing's plans for a smooth run-up to August's Olympics.

Officials demanded protesters turn themselves in, while baton-wielding police patrolled Lhasa's mostly empty streets on Saturday. Fires still smoldered from the Friday clashes, and residents were under curfew.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/15/exile-group-says-30-kille_n_916...

I don't think so. Here on this 15 minute video you see code pink organizers explain their tortured pleadings for the senator to protect America by not starting an unwarranted war of aggression before the invasion. At 7 minutes the senator exposes her impassioned yet irrational lapse of judgment for why her intentions are to kill untold innocent men, women, and children. Hillary Clinton helped George Bush propel our nation into its most disgraceful period in history. No, no, no. It's not God damn America. It's George, McCain and Hillary that damned America. They pressed for this war.

"Fisher who had a net personal wealth of $10 million from designing and patenting the Rolodex, lost his entire fortune in the crash and ultimately died penniless. But his Quantity Theory of Money still built favor with economists, politicians and central bankers of the future."

I'd love to head a research project that would reveal how many bad roads we've gone down because we've had incompetent map makers.

Is Your Candidate Smarter than a 6 Year Old?
by Devilstower
Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 06:28:20 PM PDT
In a brief interview conducted in the Senate chambers, Barack Obama responded to Hillary Clinton's contention that the Michigan primary was "fair."

"Look, we're going to abide by whatever the Democratic National Committee determines is fair," he says. "But the important point is ... that we agreed not to participate in this process. Not just me, but Sen. Clinton did as well. If you ask my 6-year-old, should that election count, she would probably be able to figure out that that's not fair."

Of course, while Sasha Obama may think all candidates need to be on the ballot in a fair election, it's not just Hillary Clinton who feels otherwise. Iran has removed most of the reform candidates in their vote. The recent Russian election was held even though most opposition candidates weren't on the ballot. One candidate elections are considered fair all over the world... in China, Burma, Syria, Turkmenistan, Cuba. Excellent models all.

Why do candidates in all these places argue for the fairness of elections in which the opposition is excluded? Because it serves their own self interest to do so.

Update [2008-3-14 23:27:17 by Devilstower]: For those suggesting (either gently or at knife point) that my analogy is over the top, I have to say... I agree with you. It's not fair to compare Sen. Clinton's actions to those nations where other candidates are forcibly kept from the ballot. It's a step too far, and I apologize.

That doesn't mean I don't think that Michigan was in any sense fair.

http://devilstower.dailykos.com/

i used to think they made those decisions out of ignorance...

Corporate rule...

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/the_clintons_m...

its way beyond simple corporate profits at work here I'm afraid SJ...

Obama got caught associating with a 3%er!!!

It's bad enough that Obama gets called a liberal, now The Rev is making him look like a 3%er!

Did you notice how the 97% reacted to The Rev's video?

Never take a 3%er into the light of day!

OH MY GOD!!!! this shit just gave me the chills...are you circulating this?

All this is likely to do for now is to help Hillary close the gap coming up to the Convention.

Where this 3% crap will really kill Obama is in the General Election.

Maybe Obama can rid himself of The Rev, but he can rid himself of the videos.

Is this common in the Black Church?

A lady was on the radio yesterday sayin this is no big deal...

Happens all the time in the Black Church!

I find that hard to believe!

(By the way, a photo surfaced recently that suggests Hillary may have her own Rezko scandal to worry about. Check it out here.)

Clinton Adviser Says Obama Not Electable

Yesterday during a conference call with reporters, Sen. Hillary Clinton's chief strategist Mark Penn said that Sen. Barack Obama was unelectable.

The Pennsylvania vote, he said, will be a "very significant test of who could really win the general election."

"We believe this will show Hillary is ready to win, and that Senator Obama really can't win the general election," Penn said.

yup just like the man under elephant pig sucking dicks that happens in the evangelical churches, pastor who again?

Are Hillary and Obama going to pound each other until Sept?

There will be nothing left for McCain to pound on, they will both be little stubs!

but that story starts at WSJ. Murdoch is a hack.

Check this out
"If I had been president in October of 2002, I would not have started this war."

The video above she clearly presses for war in front of Code Pink. But at the start of her stump to run for President she has that quote saying she would not have gone to war. Hillary lies.

The Washington Post writes about House vote, "Ignoring Bush Demands." But that's not the good part. This is:

The House's action ensures that Bush will not receive surveillance legislation for several weeks. But some lawmakers from both parties said the impasse is now so deep that the issue may not be resolved until a new president takes office next year.

Bush and Republican lawmakers have shown no desire to move further toward the House Democratic leaders' position, and the Democrats are showing no sign of buckling under the mounting political pressure.
http://mcjoan.dailykos.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_nrZ8cg0bY

Obama came up so fast he never had a chance to get clear of that kind of crazy talk and move into a mainstream church like Hillary.

To much to soon...

Obama needs more time to mature!

kids are calling---pick up time, check it out later fernando ta thanks

This is an issue that works for them. I wouldn't be surprised if they put it out there in the first place.

The Rev does more damage to Obama in more way than Hillary could ever do.

*pitooey*

Clinton-Obama War Creates Serious Tensions at DailyKos
March 15, 2008 10:14 AM

This is how ugly things have gotten between supporters of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama -- Clinton supporters are staging what they call a "strike" at the influential liberal website DailyKos.

It's not really a "strike" -- blogging for these diarists is not a job, and stopping their blogging won't cause them financial hardship.

But, that said, these diarists' boycott of DailyKos is indicative of the turmoil in which the Democratic party finds itself.

When you start sub-dividing a tiny group like the 3% you end up with nothing!

Chubby Little Al Gore may get the nob at some point.

Of course his Global Warming nonsense in wearing a little thin.

I heard yesterday Gore is going to be sued for fraud!

Turns out Gore is hurting the economy with all the Carbon Credit foolishness.

Maybe Kerry would be a better choice!

its interesting reading the financial papers this morning. in the discussion of the bear stearns liquidity event that rocked the markets yesterday they are using phrases like global economic collapse to justify the fed stepping in and saving the bankers ass by shifting the cost over to us taxpayers in the form of inflation and lower dollar value (go read greg palast article if you haven't done so).

in a way, the words are reminiscent of the hyperventilating bedwetters taking us into iraq and soon into iran, but still, imagine what you would do if one morning you woke up and found that your 401K, your ira, your savings were all just gone. the money you intended to live on after you retire, gone. the money you intended to send your kids to college with, gone. the money you had set aside for a rainy day, worthless. the house that you have been paying on for years, worth less than you paid.

would bush or any of the republicans care? as long as the individuals that run these companies suffer no consequences other than generous severance packages, nothing is going to change.

as late as today, there are postings that point out that the cons are still blaming the subprime crisis on those sneaky little people that tricked the banks into loaning them money when they knew they couldn't afford the outrageous payments that were coming when the arm rolled over. the republicans would have you believe we need more debtor prisons and less regulation.

freedom is stumbling, but its still marching more or less.

Saturday's Hell, March 15th, 2008

Saturday, March 15th, beginning at 9 AM (central), on WNUR 89.3 FM Evanston/Chicago, This is Hell broadcasts a four hour show. We are also live online via WNUR's web site (http://www.wnur.org) under the heading, "Listen Online."

http://thisishell.com/

But if Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy were so helpful to the economy, why is it that we're now going through such a tough time?//

Did you happen to notice that all the trouble start with the words "tax increase"?

The rich will always protect themselves..

You want a better economy cut more taxes!

"We’re at the moment when the WORLD needs Obama more than the world wants Hillary"
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One election at a time...

Yet another Republican recession in an election year. When will they ever learn?

Probably never.

Their tinkle down economics is a failure. Always has been, always will be.

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Move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

When you hear the kind of Hog Wash The Rev was putting out, one is more able to understand Michelle Obama’s comment about being proud of America for the First Time.

All of this starts to fit together like a jigsaw puzzle to paint Obama's history.

Time for these Republicans to go the way of the Whigs.

Archaic and out of touch with reality.
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Move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

Hillary would have run well against McCain. A simple choice it would have been.

Now Hillary is damaged goods.

Could it be this Obama mess is pay-back?

Looks like Bush might have bankrupted his Daddy's piggy bank.
Submitted by MMRules on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 2:45am.
Carlyle Capital..
Couldn't have happened to a more worthy family !
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I have been expecting to stumble upon an article written about the irony of the son's economy crushing the father's investment cabal.

There has been a lot of speculation that Daddy Bush's persistent silence about his son's presidency is not due to Daddy's even-handed effort to stay out of the limelight. Instead, some people believe that Daddy Bush does not agree with most of his son's policies and was shocked that a nation would elect his least-qualified progeny to the White House.

If true, the silence and lack of criticism (borne by the respect and loyalty to his son) has come back to bite George H.W. Bush in his investment ass.

Oh, well. Daddy won't starve. His oil investments alone have more than covered his other losses and he has his son's inept presidency to thank for his pile of petrodollars, even though each dollar is worth much less than it was during Daddy's presidency.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSL132768820080313

FACTBOX-Key facts about investment fund Carlyle Capital

Quite violent storms here last night. No tornadoes thank God.

Im going to try to move some stuff into storage today.

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Move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

There has been a lot of speculation that Daddy Bush's persistent silence about his son's presidency is not due to Daddy's even-handed effort to stay out of the limelight. Instead, some people believe that Daddy Bush does not agree with most of his son's policies and was shocked that a nation would elect his least-qualified progeny to the White House.

I think that is probably accurate. I give him some credit for staying out of it. He's defended W. some, but he can't be happy with him.

And to think, I actually miss GHW Bush. If you'd told me when he was in office that one day I'd miss him, I'd have laughed and/or checked you for head injuries.

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Move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

i would speculate that the carlyle group was smart enough to structure this in a way that they haven't lost much money.

if anything, the only thing carlyle capital and carlyle group have in common is a name and managing partners.

Solar 9 (9-0.0.2.7)
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white cosmic world-bridger ~ kin 26

ENDURE in order to EQUALIZE,
TRANSCENDING OPPORTUNITY
seal the STORE of DEATH
with the COSMIC tone of PRESENCE.
guided by the power of HEART.

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Submitted by Part of the 97 ... on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 12:06pm.
I heard yesterday Gore is going to be sued for fraud!
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http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/03/04/weather-channel-founder-wants-to-sue-...

...The founder of the Weather Channel, John Coleman, is angry. Like Bruce Banner-turning-into-Hulk angry. Apparently, he’s in a huff over the network’s reports on climate change and claims ‘they’re telling us what to think.” He does have a point. Just last week, I heard a report that it was going to rain here and I took an umbrella with me to work. A classic example of the Weather Channel coercive ways. But seriously, this guy’s got a beef and let it be known at a skeptics conference on Global Warming in New York City yesterday. Here’s a great quote:

“[I] have a feeling this is the opening,” Coleman said. “If the lawyers will take the case – sue the people who sell carbon credits. That includes Al Gore. That lawsuit would get so much publicity, so much media attention. And as the experts went to the media stand to testify, I feel like that could become the vehicle to finally put some light on the fraud of global warming.”

Yawn. What a beautiful waste of time. Just like this conference, skeptics continue to throw everything in the book at denying climate change. The Heartland Institute — which organized this gathering — invited a circle-jerk of “conspiracy theorists, industry parrots, puzzle-makers, scientists for hire and those who just can’t let go of their flat-earth ways.” Coleman’s idea what we should sue the carbon credit industry — and those associated with it — is just another example of how far this crowd is willing to go to draw attention to their lunacy. Skepticism is a true force in keeping science on its toes, but these groups aren’t bringing much to the table to make the world think otherwise...

that they Taped in Phoenix last week..

It Was Excellent ! !

You All Should Go Over To The Nova-M Website & Watch It !

If your a Founding member you can watch the whole video..Over an hour long..

If your not a founding member you can still watch 2 Sample Clips..
Again it's definitely worth the effort to mosey over there and watch the tapes !
:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Amazing video, Fernando.

What did Hillary mean in that last statement while she was shaking her finger at that woman? She said something like...I am a senator from NY and I will never put my people at risk! Was she tying Saddam in with 9/11? If she was she is more stupid than I thought.

Imagine how different that meeting would be if it were Senator Obama meeting with code pink.

Asia Times Online

One might assume that the approaching end of the George W Bush presidency is the beginning of the end of the American empire, at least as empire-building is usually seen - as an attempt to impose power on others by force.

The reason is simple: US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are badly stretched, and the pleas of US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates to European countries to send more combat troops have fallen on deaf ears. Still, John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, notes that the war could proceed "for a hundred years".

The war in the Middle East is qualitatively different from the Vietnam War, in which McCain participated. In withdrawing from Southeast Asia, the US actually put itself out of danger, its battered prestige notwithstanding. The point is that Vietnam would not make any attempt to create problems for the US at the end of formal hostilities.

The situation is entirely different in Iraq and Afghanistan, where the US debacle will lead to intensifying efforts to harm American interests - and not only those of the US, but countries all over the globe.

From this perspective, the current wars are open-ended conflicts from which the US cannot extricate itself. Therefore, one could argue that the American empire is coming to its end and its global span could well be replaced by other powers, with China as the major candidate. The present situation in Africa serves as a prime example.......

For his birthday, little Joe asked for a 10-speed bicycle. His father said, "Son, we'd give you one, but the mortgage on this house is $280,000 & your mother just lost her job. There's no way we can afford it." The next day the father saw little Joe heading out the front door with a suitcase.

So he asked, "Son, where are you going?"

Little Joe told him; "I was walking past your room last night and heard you telling Mom you were pulling out. Then I heard her tell you to wait because she was coming too. And I'll be damned if I'm staying here by myself with a $280,000 mortgage & no bike."

Throw enough gas on that fire, it will eventually go out. Trust me. I ran an oil business into the ground and that's REALLY hard to do!!!!

(¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø°`)

Stay away from that crap--it's not good for you, unless it's made correctly, with lots of rum.

I wonder if part of the fruitcake central has lots of rum in it?

http://www.warcomeshome.org/

"Winter Soldier 2008"

I heard the teaser clip of Malloy & Ritter - sounds excellent.
I am considering joining (founding member) just to hear that.
I wanted to go out & see them but - responsibilities get in the way.
Hope you are well MMRules :)

As we all know Obama has flawless judgment. We know this of course because Obama-who has flawless judgment-tells us every 4 seconds or so.

Indeed so flawless is Obama's judgment that he now has a Christ like HALO! I have actually seen it on the cover of Rolling Stones magazine! The man actually has a HALO! He's so special.

This is why it saddens me to create this link to a story showing that Obama does not actually have flawless judgment, and in fact seems to be a bit stupid-at least when it comes to avoiding the appearance of taking a bribe.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-obama-rezkomar15,0,29689...

I suppose he now should just go to his spiritual advisor and ask him how to resist temptation in the future-who is his spiritual advisor-oh yes his name is Mr. Wright. Now that sounds like a very solid name-yet another sign of Obama's flawless judgment-he's right with Wright...YEAH YEAH YEAH-come on team Obama jump for joy he's right with Wright!!!!

LOL-you Obama people are so ....oh well you know what I mean.

http://www.ethiopiareads.org/

http://www.booksforafrica.org/

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Happy Saturday!

Bibi - just about to listen to the tunes you sent...gracias....

Sooooo...What's everyone doing for fun today? Besides bloggin' :)

We're having company tomorrow..so I'm either going to have to clean today or burn my house down... *bleh*

On the way in were a few dozen right-wing protesters organized by the "Gathering of Eagles" -- a spin-off from the "Vietnam Vets for Truth" started during the 2004 campaign to go after Kerry. I've seen them at antiwar protests, and what struck me was that their messages were unchanged -- 'support the troops.' The concept that those giving testimony inside were the troops -- several with chests weighed down with decorations and metals -- was the definition of cognitive dissonance.

...

There was a panel on the Rules of Engagement. More than a dozen soldiers testified that they had been trained stateside to be professionals -- to use minimal force to achieve their objectives, to respect the spirit as well as the letter of the Geneva Conventions. When they got to Iraq, that flew out the window, and the unofficial but universally observed ROE was that if they felt at all threatened, they should shoot to kill. And all agreed that in a country where the enemies are indistinguishable from the friendlies, and with a mission that was poorly designed, the rules became looser and looser. All reported that they regularly carried 'drop' weapons to put next to the corpses of any civilians they had killed by mistake, and were told by their superiors that they'd be protected in such circumstances. And that happened with alarming frequency.

And they repeated, again and again, almost as if desperate to prove that they were not monsters, that these were not isolated events -- the standards were systemic, and they came from above. The only time they played it straight by the book was when they had embedded journalists with them. "Everything was different when the media was around," remarked one Marine.

...

As I listened, two things jumped out at me. First, I was struck by what idiots people are for believing that we can't end this occupation -- or I should say how credulous they are. Anyone who believes that such a thing as a benevolent foreign military occupation exists is seriously deluded. Soldier after soldier agreed: it's not about "mistakes" or poorly defined missions or a "failure of command," although all of those things are endemic in Iraq. The problem is the occupation, and there was a consensus among these soldiers and Marines that ending the occupation is a prerequisite for the Iraqis to try to put their wrecked country back together.

I watch it from a detached point of view, and what I see is a colored boy outsmarting "the first black president" Bill Clinton. So far, it's very interesting.

Lessons Of Vietnam War For Today Is One Focus Of Peace and Freedom Commemoration

by Peace And Freedom Party
Saturday Mar 15th, 2008 7:38 AM

On the 40th anniversary, this Peace and Freedom commemoration meeting will look at the struggle then including the militant revolutionary opposition to the imperialist war within the military and it's relevance today. The forum and film screening will take place at the Brava theater in San Francisco.

Peace and Freedom Party 40th Anniversary Commemoration

Peace and Freedom Party

On March 16th, 2008, the San Francisco Peace and Freedom Party will commemorate the 40th anniversary of the founding of the party. This event will take place at the Brava Theater Center in San Francisco at 2781 - 24th Street (between Bryant and York - nine blocks east of 24th Street BART) between 7:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m.

40th Peace and Freedom Party Anniversary Forum & Video: Lessons of the Anti-War Movement

There will be a special showing of "Sir No Sir" - a documentary of GI resistance at the Presidio.

Speakers:

* Ralph Schoenman - Co-Host of "Taking Aim" on Pacifica Radio & GI Resistance organizing during the war in Southeast Asia
* R.G. Davis - Founder of the San Francisco Mime Troup, which performed at the founding convention of the Peace and Freedom Party in 1968
* David Ewing - GI Resister during the Viet Nam War

http://www.peaceandfreedom.org

Submitted by Exhausted Blogger on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 1:25pm.
Stay away from that crap--it's not good for you, unless it's made correctly, with lots of rum.
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I have purchased (have had sent as gifts) two fruitcakes made by the monks at Assumption Abbey. Their fruitcake business supports the small monastery.

One of the recipients has since also purchased a fruitcake as a gift because they are exceptional and loaded with booze.

If you are fortunate enough to have one of the dozen-or-so fruitcake lovers on your gift list, I highly recommend this product.

http://www.trappistmonks.com/

(Note the bottles in the second photo down the page.)

I am offended by your use of the blatantly racist term `colored boy'.

I believe the prefered term is `little n#gg@r boy"?

it turns out the term I thought was good went out of favor at least half a century ago....I gotta keep current on these things.

Thanks for the Code Pink video....
Leave it to Code Pink to tell it like it is and is going to be....

I visited one of them trappist monk monasteries here in Californy, and I found out that the boozey fruitcakes were actually made by fruitcakes.

Hey girlfriend - did you get my e-mail I sent you yesterday????
I hope you did.

they weren't made by boozey fruitcakes?

is the preferred pc term to use on this blog.

If we need any correction, we can always ask Mel.

They seemed sober, but their eyes kept wandering--if you know what I mean...

Weird, no I didn't - wanna try again to resend it now?

that's your answer for everything...

New Melleray Abbey in Dubuque, IA.

No Fruit Cakes though... :(

Just recovered from looking at those hypnotic cat eyes and discovered myself spooning tuna into my CD drive!

Yeah - I'll resend it. Give me a few minutes..

...is more acceptable to me than deliberate deception. But that's just me. We're all human and flaws are inherent.

Being a natural at duplicity just comes with being a Clinton.

I sent 2 photos - I think that the photos are TOO BIGG
maybe thats why it did not go thru.

has just restarted for the afternoon session

welp..I can go clean something while it comes in... :)

whoa! hearing some amazing stories.

you can bet no one in Washington DC wants to hear their testimony!!!

hope this ends up on a Pod cast and a CD!

Its nice to see that Senator Obama has such nice loyal supporters. I admire that you will support him no matter what.

Please speak loudly and boldly for you candidate.

The world is listening-and learning.

LOL.

if you can afford it cool..
It's very nice to be able to podcast old Malloy
any old time you like..
These vids are cool too..

You said you wanted to go see them..
Do you live in Pheonix ?
Sorry,my memory sucks sometimes..

Are you feeling better ?
I hope so.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

oh shit.... I figured so. Sorry bout that.

what a beautiful color! The one that looks taken outdoors, that cat has a really cute, round shaped face...(we call those kind 'ball heads' :)...ya know...an account of the round-ness.. :)

We have a third cat now who has a hematoma in their ear...it gets all filled up with blood and fluid and puffs up like a tortilla chip...it's from scratching too hard...the first cat we had no idea what it was and it just popped and then got all crinkled...Then the second cat cost 250 to have it opened and drained and sewn up...this one it's just the tip of the ear, so I think we'll just let it go...The bunk part is that either way the cat has a bent-down crinkled ear ...

i sent u tunage as well, but i bet u din't get that neither!

Rachel Corrie Memorial Website

http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

Dedicated to a 23 year old peace activist who was killed on March 16, 2003 when she was crushed by a bulldozer on the Gaza Strip.

...Books Books Books...
Submitted by Alice on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 1:33pm.

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That Stevie Wonder album is a great one...and the other two I had never heard - nice as usual, thank you :)

On my trip the other night my friend made cds to bring and they were all gangta rap songs...pretty fun - There are two that were so outgrageous when I get them from her, I'll post them...nasty is not nasty enough to describe them...

I think "God Damn America" mat be a little rough of a slogan for the general public to swallow...but oddly enough it seems a perfect phrase for this community

hey at least Barry is sticking to what his base wants to hear

2 live crude?

as far as the rev goes, fred phelps and his gott hates fags family at least are the right color, huh? same message, diff. messenger.

Mind you, this is the man who Obama says is his moral compass. The man who inspired his “Audacity Of Hope.”

but he really didnt notice the bad stuff...just the warm and fuzzy things

oh yeah..wasnt that the big speech at the convention that got libs all wet and warm inside

hmmm...and to think...that speech was inspired by Rev. Wright and his dashikis and hate talk

WATCHDOG!

He even looks like Bill Scher...

(yeah, I'm an ass)

Arf - Arf - Arf

These glorious years of Republican rule have done wonders for country.

Illegal occupation of a country in the midst of a civil war, which WE STARTED. Our leaders selling nuclear secrets to Korea and Iran. Military is stretched so thin, they could not protect this country if they had too. The NRCC gets scammed by it own.
Tanked economy. Lost jobs. Politicized court system. De funded protection agencys.

Thank the GOP

VOTE INSANE MCCAIN

Let them clean up the fricken mess they made.

Let them lead us into the ID chipped society of the North American Union and the New World Order.
www.spp.gov

OMG I've seen the light.

What would Reagan do?
(besides shit himself)

...just because a pastor says something, it doesn't mean everyone in the crowd believes it...

it makes sense when that person attends the church for 20 years ...was married by Rev. Wright,,called Rev Wright his inspiration...etc....

rember how anytime anyone that voted for W said something outlandish,,,rember how you all held Bush accountable no matter who it was that made the statement or screwed up...yeah it applies more so here

When John Aschroft opposed the nomination of African-American Judge Ronnie White to a federal judgeship – one of only two black Clinton judicial nominees he opposed during his entire Senate tenure – critics portrayed his opposition as essentially racist in nature. There were those who accused Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) of playing to racist sentiments when he included criticism of Marion Barry in his 1994 stump speech. Republican investigations of illicit 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign contributions from Chinese nationals and the Cox committee investigation of possible security breaches between the United States and China were said to be motivated by prejudice against Asian-Americans; Republican-supported initiatives to halt welfare payments to noncitizens, particularly illegal immigrants, were said to be motivated by animus against Hispanics.

Yet the Democrats can prevent a floor vote on the nomination of a Hispanic judicial nominee without the same critics objecting that this could be perceived as bias against Hispanics. Ted Kennedy can give speeches inveighing against Gerald Reynolds, now an assistant secretary of education running the department’s Office of Civil Rights, or Clarence Thomas, without anyone questioning his commitment to racial equality

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2178.html

that The Clintons werent going to go away easily

Wolf, Celticman, Part of the 97, and I are like crazy rabid dogs.

We listen to Hannity and Coulter.

Fear us.

Arf - Arf - Arf

fear the Clinton political machine

He wasn't born here, but they don't care.

He's special!

What would Reagan do?

Celticman don't let the loony libs make you look bad.

Use Coulter talking point 598a.

Don't embarrass our coalition.

Arf - Arf - Arf

should we care...wouldnt that be offensive to care?

Insane McCain

Insane McCain

Insane McCain.

Panama Walnuts McCain!

by digby

Spocko, (the guy who chased Melanie Morgan off San Francisco radio) wrote this in the comments to our "pudding" series about questioning the premises of these right wing frames. He makes an excellent observation:

I decided that the only way to have an impact on the charade of the "market place of ideas" was to go to the only people they really listen to, the ones who paid them. The advertisers.

This is the "real world" and it is the ultimate of rejecting their premise.

I reject the entire premise of their show. The fake participation, the stacked deck with loving callers. I reject their rhetorical tricks that are used on people who do get through occasionally who they destroy with their high school debating tricks and shouting. (Hannity especially)

People like Rush, Hannity, Grover Norquist, Bill O' Reilly and Coulter are the ones who create these kind of rhetorical games. They think up the frame. They then give them to their listeners who repeat them for their co-workers and family. My mom regularly uses the rhetorical tricks that Rush uses on the one person in the family who disagrees with her. But because this person doesn't want to attack my mom she thinks she has "won the conversation". Personally I hate having to have these conversations with people because I really don't like confrontation. Especially if my goal it really to persuade and change someone's mind rather than WIN the conversation. I think some men thing that if they humiliate the other person that they will then admit defeat. And that is what they want. "All right! You are right! I was wrong. You are the smarter person. I will change my ways!" These people often want to appeal to some third party and argue as if a impartial judge of debate is listening in.
Con't
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

do you all throw in the towel for Mr Obama and start focusing on Hillary or do you take the chance and keep going with "God Damn America"

i know wht McInsane is doing...campaigning

better think quick...November is coming

I actually took a bunch of pictures of dogs yesterday. With all the cat pics around here, I thought I'd mix it up a bit. I see some others had the same idea.

Video of Winter Soldier Testimony
The Real News Network Winter Soldier Testimony

Who Cares!

Where's Arnie when you really need him?

Insane McCain in 2008!

Did you know Spocko used to post here?

"Senator Obama, if you give this church $22,500, you are endorsing what goes on there, and you want it to continue."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_031408/content/01125100.gues...

good post !

but it's trying to open 4 windows at the same time!

Celticman you are losing it to a bunch of loony libs.

A President McCain is really whom we want.

Ann sent emails out two weeks ago saying it was all a joke backing Hillary.

Abort -Abort

Arf - Arf - Arf

changes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEmJ8H1872U

in n out of love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dwxYSsS8Js

Do you still have any cats? Didn't you have a dark calico type and a black cat? Why don't you post your dog pics...?

It's sad when the Republicans LOVE Hillary more than her own party.

McCain/Clinton 2008!

my website is down..

Like no other candidate, John McCain has linked his campaign for president to an unpopular war - and to a lifelong focus on foreign issues that many voters ignore.

McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, became famous as a Vietnam prisoner of war and has spent his long Senate career traveling to more foreign countries than most people could even name.

He makes his eighth trip to Iraq this weekend, a visit sure to get a lot of attention. But his weeklong overseas trip also includes Israel, Britain and France - all countries where he's made many visits.

A defiant supporter of the 2003 invasion and President Bush's troop increase last year, McCain is likely to focus in Iraq on the drop in sectarian violence and U.S. and civilian casualties since last summer.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080314/D8VDF4C08.html

does not open for me at all

one person can't be held accountable for what another person says...sorry...no matter how close they may be...

AS DELEGATE DISPUTE GROWS...

Democrats in Michigan and Florida struggled Friday to resolve the impasse over their disputed January primaries, coming up with a plan to hold a June primary in Michigan while remaining deadlocked in Florida.

Reflecting how tense the situation has become, influential fund-raisers for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton have stepped up their behind-the-scenes pressure on national party leaders to resolve the matter, with some even threatening to withhold their donations to the Democratic National Committee unless it seats the delegates from the two states or holds new primaries there.

The committee penalized Michigan and Florida for holding their primaries early in violation of national party rules, barring their delegates from being seated at the Democratic convention this summer. But with the Democratic contest now a scramble for every remaining delegate, the allocation of delegates from the two states could have a substantial impact on the nomination.

Mrs. Clinton won the primaries in both states, but the contests were not sanctioned by the party, neither candidate campaigned in the states and Mr. Obama did not even put his name on the ballot in Michigan.

Pushing to seat the Florida delegates, at least one top Clinton fund-raiser, Paul Cejas, a Miami businessman who has given the Democratic National Committee $63,500 since 2003, has demanded Democratic officials return his 2007 contribution of $28,500, which they have agreed to do.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/15/us/politics/15donate.html?ei=5065&en=6...

yeah..too bad for the past eight years you all havent adhered to the same logic huh?...cant have it both ways

Hey MMRules
Submitted by dada on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 4:19pm.
Did you know Spocko used to post here?
*******
I would have liked to have read him here..

I haven't heard about him in aleast 6 months or so..

Last I had heard about him was that he had a war going with
that Psycho Beyach Melanie Morgan..

"He chased her off the air"
Too Cool !
He's a pretty smart guy..
How long ago did he blog here,Dada ?
Thanks..
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

The united states causes a lot of trouble on this planet...if you don't recognize that ...well you know...

all of them...

logic, it's ok if you don't either?

http://therealnews.com/web/index.php?thisdataswitch=0&thisid=1122&thisvi...

I now see the source of the confusion.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=07cmMhQxjfg&feature=related

Completely understandable now.

"The united states causes a lot of trouble on this planet...if you don't recognize that ...well you know..."

Submitted by Alice on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 4:33pm.

oh i dont think care that you believe that...as a matter of fact , I think Barry should run on that premise and expose the U.S. for what it is ...dont you?

Saturday, March 15, 2008; Page A06
http://tinyurl.com/2o6fs4
Sen. John McCain plans at least one campaign event on his week-long congressional trip to Europe and the Middle East: a March 20 fundraiser in London. An invitation sent out by the campaign says the luncheon will be held at Spencer House, St. James's Place, "by kind permission of Lord Rothschild OM GBE and the Hon Nathaniel Rothschild." Tickets to the invitation-only event cost $1,000 to $2,300. Attire is listed as "lounge suits."

"We could not have sucked Americans dry with out the support of the GOP. We just want to say, "Thanks".

no..just calling you on you hypocrisy

http://therealnews.com/web/index.php?thisepisode=127
The Real News: Winter Soldier testimonials (TRNN)

Democracy Now! | Winter Soldier: Hundreds of Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan Gather to Testify in Echo of 1971 Vietnam Hearings

MM..

except it looks as if even the blustateblogs archives are gone..that sucks..is our whole blogging history destroyed now?

oh i see how Pentecostals worshipping fits in this conversation...oh wait..no it really doesnt now does it...

Celticman don't use El Rushbo until Ann gives the Okey Dokey

The Loony Libs are on to him.

Don't you read her emails?

Posted on the Loony Libs site:

First Rush Limbaugh, Now Pat Buchanan: Republican Fear of Barack Obama Turns to Love of Hillary Clinton

Last week we learned that Rush Limbaugh had grown so fearful of Barack Obama's chances of winning the Democratic nomination for president that he threw in with his old enemy, Hillary Clinton, asking his Republican listeners to switch parties for a day and vote for Clinton in upcoming Democratic primaries. This week Clinton won a new friend from among the ranks of her old enemies on the far right, Pat Buchanan. As Steve Kornacki writes today in the New York Observer, Buchanan and other conservative Republicans have indeed been warming up to Clinton as Obama's delegate count has grown; and in an exchange on MSNBC earlier this week on the Geraldine Ferraro controversy, Buchanan himself grew quite testy in his defense of Ferraro.

Arf - Arf - Arf

We know most of our listeners are conservatives but we appreciate you all and want to know if you had to choose between Obama and Hillary...

Which one do you think would be stronger on American security and defense?

77% - Sen. Clinton
23% - Sen. Obama

http://www.hannity.com/#survey

man us Republicans love us some Hillary!!!

www.blogsforvictory.com

Come on over and blog for

INSANE MCCAIN!

Psssst...
just tell them celticman sent ya...

I'm not voting for him or her or the other guy...

Every election they talk a lot of shit...the administrations really tell what's what and who is who...

The people who tell what is really going on get no where near viability, it's meant to be that way...and it sucks..

thanks for the advice little annoying rat dog, but i spoke to El Rushbo this morning myself and permission from the oracle himself was indeed granted

did you know that a week or so ago, someone from the congressional offices (some high up gvt. place) searched Kevin's blog freedemocracy.blogspot.com for the words "mccain" and "nutjob"?

:)

Celticman this Alice person is making you look bad.

Use Coulter talking point 8972zz

Don't give up you are still learning!!!!!!!!

Arf - Arf - Arf

more wars less jobs

sorta remains you of a beer commercial.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://majorityreportradio.com

that is impossible

no! i dont....((put my serpents back, I WANT TO JIVE WITH MY SERPENTS)) boohoohoohooo...my---serpents, want them!

or bad bad?

Alice he doesn't need your Help

Celticman this Alice person is making you look bad
Submitted by celticman on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 4:51pm.

that is impossible
»

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Wolf, Celticman, Part of the 97, and I are like crazy rabid dogs.

We listen to Hannity and Coulter.

We are a force to be feared.

Arf - Arf - Arf

Spocko posted here early on, I guess it was probably 2004, when it was still the Majority Report. What he did with Melanie Morgan's advertisers was very effective, we could all take a lesson from his playbook on that one.

ABC pressured Spocko's internet provider to shut down his blog, but the Electronic Frontier Foundation stood up for him.

http://w2.eff.org/legal/cases/spocko/

all you Religious types strike me as odd so I may not be a good judge of these things. I liked most of what Pastor Wright had to say.

Hillary's Reverend says America is no different from Franco’s Spain. While Hillary was in college—was also president of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), an organization dedicated to the violent reform of the U.S. government. That sounds a bit odd to me. A bit out of moderation.

Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. - motherjones

I'm just saying that if you don't attend these voodoo rituals, you have no right to judge them any more than I should.

Don't even get me started on McCrazy's religious shenanigans. Those are a real fruit basket case.

The Real News: Winter Soldier testimonials (TRNN)

Can't you picture the card.

The smiling faces of Barack and Michelle in their Rezko house sitting at the fireplace sing joyfully

"God Damn America" with Pastor Wright serving egg nog.

Lovely.

Instead of asking myself, "What would Jesus do?", I should have been asking, "What would Reagan do?"

http://www.wwrdheritage.org/

sit back and enjoy the show, folks...don't forget popcorn

Ha ! This Trolly Clown writes like PissPot97 !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

i did read his story on the americablog a while back..i knew i saw that name somewhere!

Let my voice be heard from the farthest hills.

Insane McCain

Insane McCain

Insane McCain

Cause, what would Ronnie do?
(besides shit himself?)

Celticman, Loony Lib Alice is still embarrassing you.

Maybe I can get you out of this trouble you have got yourself in.

Use the Hillary is a Lib and will take our guns meme.

Arf - Arf - Arf

Ugly evil people have advocated against America a long long time. You may be down with them if they are of your skin color though. If so, that would make you a bigot.

Real crazy people advocate against America all the time but you just love them.

... and that is where the Pentecostal people come in.

cause they are at least mostly just funny crazy.

oh i dont think care that you believe that
Submitted by MMRules on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 5:01pm.

Ha ! This Trolly Clown writes like PissPot97 !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
----

It's probably just a typo on the "talkers" list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLYC7ltxOrk

With The GOP Party Money ? ?

Pick a Country That's Not The USA ! ! HaHaHaHa ! !

He really took to Your Culture of Corruption !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Celticman. My Back up call worked.

Wolf is here to help.

Okey Dokey

Now there are three of the four Rabid Dogs of Rightness here.

You Loony Libs are in for it now.

Arf - Arf - Arf

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

fernando, i don't disagree. he is a preacher walking the walk in the chicago projects. there was a show on sirius left in the 6PM hour that was talking about the black church and the preaching style. he used the phrase their job is to make the comfortable uncomfortable and the uncomfortable comfortable. its all about social justice for the least among us.

what is happening is one word or phrase is being lifted out of a bigger context and then played in a way to make the comfortable very uncomfortable. the right wing are masters at this.

Minister Wearing Two Rubber Suits Asphyxiates With Hands, Feet Tied Behind Back
51-year-old Reverend Gary Michael Aldridge, an Alabama minister, was found dead in June from "accidental mechanical asphyxia" according to the autopsy released Friday. His feet and hands were also found tied behind him, and was in two rubber suits.

No drugs were found in his system, and foul play has been ruled out. Rumors began to surface when the community was asked by the church to "refrain from speculation" until the report of the investigation gets released.

The DA who okayed the release said "I don't know anything about any speculation. I'm a prosecutor. I have no case to prosecute. It is not a criminal matter at this point. If you're asking about idle curiosity, I'm not going to comment on that."

Now there are three of the four Rabid Dogs of Rightness here.

You Loony Libs are in for it now.
Arf - Arf - Arf
*******
Back at ya,Arf..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

will tell us exactly which of Rev. Wrights sermons he agrees with

Gary Aldridge graduated from Liberty University and later worked for the late Jerry Falwell. A former colleague at the school remembered him as well.

"He went on to become one of the deans and the students loved him. He had a tremendous impact on them," said Dr. Bob Miller of Liberty University.

As investigators try to figure out what happened, Steve Campbell says this is by far the hardest thing he's ever had to go through yet despite the loss of a close, personal friend, Steve Campbell says he won't even bother asking 'why.'

Here is why:
...the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals says Alabama doesn't have to lift its silly, arcane 1998 law banning the sale of sex toys. The Constitution does not include a right to sexual privacy, the panel of three judges ruled.
[...]
"In this case, the American Civil Liberties Union ('ACLU') invites us to add a new right to the current catalogue of fundamental rights under the Constitution: a right to sexual privacy. It further asks us to declare Alabama's statute prohibiting the sale of 'sex toys' to be an impermissible burden on this right. Alabama responds that the statute exercises a time-honored use of state police power -- restricting the sale of sex. We are compelled to agree with Alabama and must decline the ACLU's invitation.
(...)
"Alabama's Anti-Obscenity Enforcement Act prohibits, among other things, the commercial distribution of 'any device designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs for any thing of pecuniary value.'"

It was those damned Liberal Judges fault
www.boingboing.net/2004/07/29/sex-toys-still-banne.html

Amen

Yes, I am currently the manager of a dog day care, boarding and grooming facility. I have a large pack of wonderful dogs. And a pretty good crew of people, too.

"is our whole blogging history destroyed now?"

I think Jim has the archives backed up. I tried saving them once, but I couldn't get the webvacuum program to work.

that Barry didnt know what kind of racist Wright is...puhlease folks...it aint gonna fly

Rev. Wright married Obama, baptized his children and has served as his spiritual adviser for 20 years,

That we are a force to be feared.

I see my fellow Rightness colleagues have aborted.

We will be back.

You Loony Libs have better not forget who you are messing with.

Arf - Arf - Arf

celticman (and ghettodefender),

I challenged ghettodefender's opinion that the Wright flap will greatly harm Obama's campaign. I have a lot of reasons for believing that the Wright flap will pass into the memory hole as another non-event campaign event, but here is one of the more salient reasons.

If Wright's sermons were the first unsavory comments made by a man of the cloth, they would count for something, but they're not. Public figures within the Conservative Religious Right have been making these types of shocking and inflammatory comments for years beginning with the Moral Majority and Falwell and continuing through Dobson, Robertson, Ashcroft, Hagee and others.

Outside of the Religious Right there have been similarly outrageous comments from Farrakhan, Malcolm X, the KKK, various Israeli Zionists, several Popes, Ayatollah Khomeini and Osama bin Laden.

Both Catholic priests and Southern Baptist ministers have been dragged off in chains after diddling children.

Members of the U.S. electorate who are not busily collecting sound bites to support their arguments have become numb to the latest stupidness to come out of the mouth of a religious leader.

Like the continuing escapades of Britney Spears, the next shocker must be more shocking than the last shocker to shock anyone into giving a damn.

If you want to make an unforgettable impression on the electorate, you need to blast an attorney in the face with a $17,000 Perazzi shotgun or suggest that Foggy Bottom should be nuked or solicit for sex in an airport bathroom stall...

...but those shockers have already been done.

When a black minister preaches that the U.S., as a nation, has made mistakes, it doesn't make the cut.

If I am wrong, feel free to remind me in six months. In the meantime I'll be making jokes about the hazards of hunting with the Vice-President and I'll be cracking wise about the Victorian modesty of an Attorney General who covers the marble breasts of Lady Justice...because those are the jokes that reference events that everyone remembers.

Isn't he the guy that had you know what,you know where ?

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

youve lost youre sanity libbie

as if saying God damn America isn't the same thing as when Right wing religious leaders called for nuclear attacks in San Fransisco for the gays. As if Falwell didn't say the same thing when he said the 9/11 attacks were brought on by liberals in New York city and their abortions. These people or right wing mutts need a mirror. They just don't get how bigoted and ugly they truly are. It's in their marrow.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AoxgOdj9enE

Arf. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Rev. Wright married Obama, baptized his children and has served as his spiritual adviser for 20 years,

guilty by association isnt gonna fly here

you best move along, boy

dammit arent you listening...if you and barry believe these things to be true, then why run from them...barry should use them as campaign slogans

wouldnt that be the honest thing to do

try again son...you havent offered an answer

why run from Rev. Wright?

you believe what he says

ok thanks i get it---he is on display, but where? which museum? still wearing rubber or just with the dildo that wears a condom up his ass? i would like to see him, please

are you saying wright is the left equivalent of falwell (i would heartily disagree) or that the right wing just doesn't get it.

thank you---i know so!

I think your correct, pbtrue1 ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

yeah...thats why he is doing damge control today with town meetings

nothing to worry bout here...no siree

lol..Too funny.... :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

you conflate belief with understanding and acceptance with empathy, but then your goal is not to enage in a meaningful discussion.

"Tony" Rezko

move along

until

and

after this election..

just like every day in politics...

ive been around here long enough to know that you do indeed believe his views on America, dont try the double talk BS with me

thats what they call a fixer upper...

go pound sand, you don't have a clue what i believe in and don't believe in.

they had at least another block up to the corner to put that sign...the half of the graffiti shack that isn't showing had way more interesting signs of distress..but we were driving, that's all I got...

I learned something at the class..the teacher said that there is something called the broken window theory...something about abandoned buildings in cities..if a window gets broken or graffiti is on it, if they mess is repaired or cleaned up in a swift time, then they can 'save' a builfding eventually because if they don't repair it, then the building is taken over or becomes the peoples building, and not the owner's building...if they repair it fast, then the 'vandalism' stops

what i thought...no answer

dumb-age or plumb-age thats what you mean right?

its saddening to see that. i used to consult with a company north of detroit and the drive up 75 would take you thru the worst part of detroit. i think it was near the lodge freeway and hammtramck area. the destruction in the inner cities made it look similar to photos you see of bombed out blocks in world war ii.

Yeah!

Or a .28 gauge!

;)

(I hope that was the right number to make my joke....)

To say Hillary put the tape out there is false. Conservative talk radio has been talking about the Rev. Wright for weeks. They've been doing there homework on Obama, unlike the news media. Obama may have more delegates than Hillary, but he won't win in November. The Rev. Wright has already damaged him.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/clinton_campa...

i would take heed

nothing new from me. I don't have a whole lot of respect for the shaman. They all say odd things as far as I'm concerned. I did like what Pastor Wright said about social injustice. That part made a whole lot of sense and we need more of that. That part struck a chord with me.

Jesus and God talk is just goofy to me. I'm an atheist. Our DNA, hearts and minds were forged in a solar oven that nova'd billions of years ago. Most people understand this. Our current sun is too small to make any element heavier than carbon.

Galaxies are awash in an organic soup and you can see it in the chemical imprints of the light that comes out of them.

If we need a figure to inspire hope, we should look inside of ourselves rather than blaming an external agent, much less the shaman that speak for that agent.

You were saying?

“Today’s” co-host, Matt Lauer, showed the photo to Mrs. Clinton on the air this morning, and Mrs. Clinton responded that she had no relationship with Mr. Rezko and had no idea where the picture was taken.

INSANE MCCAIN 2008

...

they have a lot more than normal business with the same signs that went up in the 50's...it's odd...such an old ugly place...and more so with all the foreclosures I would guess...Chris Isaack grew up there tho..that's the important thing.. (kidding)

Spocko
Submitted by dada on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 4:57pm.
Spocko posted here early on, I guess it was probably 2004, when it was still the Majority Report. What he did with Melanie Morgan's advertisers was very effective, we could all take a lesson from his playbook on that one.

ABC pressured Spocko's internet provider to shut down his blog, but the Electronic Frontier Foundation stood up for him.
http://w2.eff.org/legal/cases/spocko/
*******
his website..
And yes we can learn alot from his actions..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Wasthington Post

High-Level Officials Wrote of Punishing Philadelphia Housing Director ___ After Philadelphia's housing director refused a demand by President Bush's housing secretary to transfer a piece of city property to a business friend, two top political appointees at the department exchanged e-mails discussing the pain they could cause the Philadelphia director.

"Would you like me to make his life less happy? If so, how?" Orlando J. Cabrera, then-assistant secretary at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, wrote about Philadelphia housing director Carl R. Greene.

"Take away all of his Federal dollars?" responded Kim Kendrick, an assistant secretary who oversaw accessible housing. She typed symbols for a smiley-face, ":-D," at the end of her January 2007 note.

Cabrera wrote back a few minutes later: "Let me look into that possibility."......

nice try pbtrue,but i was already aware of that connection...tell me ....how much does the involvement of both Democrat candidates to Rezco hurt McCain?

lol...nice post BTW

thank you

i repeat for Crank Bait
Submitted by celticman on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 5:23pm.
Rev. Wright married Obama, baptized his children and has served as his spiritual adviser for 20 years,
---------
And I repeat for celticman: If the impact of the Wright flap endures for six months, you can remind me that I was wrong.

My guess is that it has a half-life of three weeks at best, and less if Paris finds a new boyfriend or Ashley Dupre cuts a single.

Which Dumbass Republican Said This Lie?

My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.

Answer

Stay tuned, we'll be back next hour with a brand new question!

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on this Trolly Clown..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

no need...this trolly clown has had his fun for the day...bye libbies

People can be exposed to A LOT of words and take what they get and leave what they don't get...I can't discount where people derive their own enrichment...blanket labeling of people who are religious discounts individuality...imo...it may not me my thing, or your thing, and it may be that the people who do subscribe get just what they need from it...like race, and gender I can't blanket religion with one brush...as much as I disagree with what I know of it...

NO! NOT FUCKING YOU cell something---you are not invited---

Submitted by Alice on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 5:53pm.
Yeah!
Or a .28 gauge!
(I hope that was the right number to make my joke....)
---------
I feel your pain. I had a similar numerical hope with disastrous results.

savetucker.com ?
(Yes that Tucker)

It's run by The Presbyterian Forum which is a tax-exempt, 501(c)(3) corporation..

I emailed my congresswoman asking her if that was legal..
Hopefully I will get something back that's more than the old Auto-response..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

...

I think Sam only censors when someone makes his penis small in a doctored photo...no..maybe ..hmm...yea I think that's the only time....

check out the white clean sheet---NEW THREAD

colored boy
new
Submitted by Exhausted Blogger on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 1:53pm.

is the preferred pc term to use on this blog.

If we need any correction, we can always ask Mel.
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Actually it's "Sambo" now. The current preferred term is "Sambo".
You could call any of us...
Sambo
The Sambo
Little black Sambo.
His Sambo-ness or
El Sambo-rino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

they are both pro 10,000 years of war
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27099

More war
Less jobs
More hunger
Less people

It's all in the planning

Little Black Sambo is a way cute, way old childrens book about a black kitten....

Tell me you're staying up late tonight..........prrreeeeaaaasseee?

I think I believe that Obama is also in the planning...I find it impossible to think that anyone gets to where he is without being as corrupt (ETC) as the others...it's ALL the planning IMO...

Submitted by Mel on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 6:09pm.
Actually it's "Sambo" now. The current preferred term is "Sambo".
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Great! I'm throwing all of my butter business your way.

about the doubts Alice. My favorite uncle was put away as a political prisoner and tortured in Mexico for supporting a lefty that promised reforms. He demonstrated with students. He did not find out until later that the person whom he supported was just as corrupt and really no better.

There is only so much we should expect.

I am so lost...

dang..never heard of it...if I had known I would have tried too...to me those are fun times looking back...

My Nona would have bows put on her male poodle's head when he was groomed...would you allow this to happen in your facility? You..you..manager you....? :)

Butter business..?
Submitted by Alice on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 6:25pm.
I am so lost...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Black_Sambo

...The story was a children's favorite for half a century, but then became controversial in certain countries due to the use of the word sambo. The children's story takes place in a fairy tale India with Caribbean elements, with the tigers racing around the tree eventually being turned into ghee -- translated as "butter" -- and the humans eating inhuman quantities of pancakes...
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Okay, so I blew the 28 gauge shotgun thingy. That doesn't mean that every reference I make is off-base...particularly when it comes to literature.

--Submitted by Fernando on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 6:25pm.--

He did not find out until later that the person whom he supported was just as corrupt and really no better.

Oooooooooooooooh....I judged the book by the cover.. :) I do that..the popular covers this year are mauve and cornflower blue.. (for fiction...)

For non-fiction...We're all gonna die, or We're all gonna be happy ..one or the other..

Wasn't one of Pastor Wrights most inflammatory sermons on Christmas? When I still went thats when everyone went, even the people who only showed up twice a year.

I bet Obama was there when this Pastor was damning the country from his holy pulpit.

Which Dumbass Republican Said This Lie?

On March 27, 2003, who told a Congressional panel that oil revenue earned by Iraq alone would pay for Iraq's reconstruction after the Iraq war?

Answer

Stay tuned, we'll be back next hour with a brand new question!
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did you shoot those photos.
I like them.... if you did I like them even more.

I've been busy cleaning our "mud" room. What a fucking
job. My back is killing me. The name fits it though - now that
everything has melted it really is the MUD ROOM.

MMRules - no I do not live in Phoenix. My sister is in Scottsdale.
I live outside of Chicago :)

hopefully its got a lot of ceramic tile and you can hit it with a hose...

thank you.

Just like anyone who questions or critiques what President Bush says or does is branded as "un-American" by the Republicans, more and more Clinton supporters are coming out and accusing people who are critical of the Clintons' words or actions are "Hillary-Bashing" or "un-Democratic". This tactic is used to put anyone with opinions that could sound the least bit negative on the defensive and usually destroys any chance for open discussion. I'm a Hillary supporter but I just don't see how Olberman or other progressive talkers can be seen as anti-Hillary if they take exception to the words of one or more of her chief supporters. I hope we can keep this discussion of the two candidates civil and keep in mind that we're all Democrats, and more importantly, all Americans who want what's best for the country.

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