FL and MI: we won't forget you...

Caucuses.
*Les-Chic*

I just stumbled upon the new thread. I don't deserve "to be 1"
*Les-Chic*

*
*Les-Chic*

learned something about thwarting the will of the party voters.

Will Michigan and Florida go Repo-man if their primaries remain "beauty contests"?
Will it tip the nomination to Hillary if the delegates from the 2 states in question should go to her? (Obama has got the "big mo" right now.)

*Les-Chic*

Do over.
*Les-Chic*

Girl is thread happy!! : D- LOL!!

Sorry Fernando .. I did not mean to bring bad memories to you! But .. I gotta tell you .. there is just something about binding someone shoulders to knees in duct tape and tickling their feet with a feather! ; )

Oh .. sorry .. I guess declarations like that should come from Mistress Daphne!

But,it is feast or famine around here,thread wise..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

duct tape fantasies and sticky realities.

theres a moral in there somewhere.

(the girl/wall was exactly the pic i had in mind!)

everytime i see you're still alive i rejoice!

Hmmm..... Veddy interestink...

Ironically .. this was found on the CDC HIV/AIDS site .. weird! I guess it is all part of the great scheme to prove to people the government doesn't give a crap about a disease they naively still think only effects "faggots" .. jackasses!!

MARYLAND: Federal AIDS Funding to State Slashed
Wed, 13 Feb 2008 - http://www.baltimoresun.com/

"Federal funding from CDC for certain Maryland HIV/AIDS surveillance activities has been cut approximately 40 percent compared to last year. In 2005, only Washington, D.C., and New York state had higher rates of new AIDS diagnoses than Maryland.

Heather Hauck, director of Maryland’s AIDS Administration, warned that fewer surveillance activities might make it harder to direct services to regions or groups where they are most needed. She also warned that the state might find it harder to get funding for AIDS treatment under the federal Ryan White Care Act, since funding depends in part on accurate surveillance of new cases."

Swell ..

Every morning I wake up .. I do the same Sunny J!! ; )

Hey Miss Penny Lane! Happy Valentine's to you!

Are the falling mooses gone?

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Your anti-Valentine ecard is EXACTLY what my grouchy ass needed! Thanks chickie-baby! :)

if i ever mentioned it but

bacon is an incredible aide to dog obedience training...

bloggie hi five and a butt bump!

Ya .. Penny .. It just seemed right! ; )

http://podcast.thisamericanlife.org/podcast/348.mp3

348: Tough Room

This week we bring you backstage with comedy writers at The Onion. They start with over 600 potential headlines for their fake-news newspaper each week, and over the course of two days, in the very tough room that is their editorial conference room, they select 16 to go in the paper. Plus other people speaking their minds in very tough rooms.

Prologue.

Thanksgiving 2002, the Ohm family's dinner conversation turned to the recent terrorist attacks. Alexis Ohm, the youngest daughter, made a comment that in retrospect she admits was probably the wrong thing to say with her conservative, military-veteran dad at the table...that Osama bin Laden was hot. (5 minutes)

Act One. Make 'em Laff.

Host Ira Glass spends time in perhaps the toughest room on earth, the editorial meeting at the satirical newspaper, The Onion, where there's one laugh for every 100 jokes. (14 minutes)

LOVED THIS ONE ESPECIALLY...
Act Two. Bar Car Prophesy.

Writer Rosie Schaap tells the story of how she ingratiated herself into the adult society of the Metroliner commuter train bar car as a teenager. She would cast Tarot card prophesies for riders, in exchange for beer. This was fun and made her feel grown-up, until the cards showed her something she wasn't really ready to see. (12 minutes)

This story will be included in Rosie's upcoming collection of stories, entitled Drinking With Men.

Act Three. Mission: Impossible.

Producer Jane Feltes spends a day with two young Mormons, on mission to possibly the least receptive environment they could find...the Upper West Side of Manhattan. (10 minutes)

Act Four. Tough News Room.

Malcolm Gladwell is a best-selling author and famous journalist at the New Yorker magazine. But not always. Witness his story—which was recorded live, on stage at the Moth theater in New York—about his first job in journalism, and how terrifying it was.

The Moth is a place where real people come onstage and tell true and tall tales.

Malcolm Gladwell is the author most recently of Blink.

Song: "Move the Crowd," Eric B. & Rakim

... the bacon runs out? My dogs run me outta the house when that happens. Sometimes it takes days before I can get back in.

~8^)

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Hill and Bill are workin the back rooms and telephones fightin for every angle. And it all might come down to the Republican cross-over vote in Texas.

Word has it the Republicans are planning a little Surprise for Hillary in Texas. If enough Republicans vote for Obama in Texas, it the be Hillary's Alamo, the last stand!

Unfair you say? Let's ask Kos about that!

: / - This sucks ... big time.

Fort Worth Abuse Priest HIV Positive
"Catholic church officials in Texas say a priest accused of sexually abusing children is HIV positive.

Magaldi was removed as a priest in 1999 after sexual misconduct allegations arose in Rhode Island and Fort Worth, Texas".

One more reason I am glad to be a Godless Heathen!

lunch yesterday and then surprising him when I got home... :)

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/pres/pf/55.htm

Me either....

In response to Barack Obama's attack on NAFTA, the Hillary Clinton campaign has gone into meltdown mode. Here's Dow Jones' Marketwatch:

"Clinton's campaign fired back at Obama, charging the Illinois senator with misrepresenting Clinton's position on trade...'Recently [Obama] falsely claimed that Hillary said that NAFTA was a 'boon' to the economy. Now, Obama is resting his argument on a single paraphrase from an article written twelve years ago,' Clinton's campaign said in an emailed statement."

more...
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what a sicko..

Ya think Conyers is going to let the NH politican die from starvation?

Wild nights--wild nights!, by Emily Dickinson
new
Submitted by Penny_Lane on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 6:41pm.

--

Hey Penny,

Emmy D is one of my favs too.

Did you ever go to te Emily Dickinson house in Amherst, Mass?

You can see her bedroom and bed, and books, and even her favorite dress. She sewed a pocket in it to keep her notebook with her. Its a good tour.

SNICKER!

bacondoggers>performance behaviour traing complexities.

taper them off with bacon dipped doggie bones.

recovery is enhanced.

i use my inflatable postman when they get stubborn. wave that around for three seconds and you have their complete attention.

February 12, 2008
87-Year Old NH State Rep Will Not Eat, Willing to Die for Impeachment
Filed under: Impeachment Events, New Hampshire — Mikael @ 8:57 pm

AfterDowningStreet.org
By Susan Serpa

http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=4795

I just got off the phone with Betty Hall. She is the 14-term State of N.H. representative who has introduced to the state house HR 24 to impeach Bush and Cheney. The public Hearing for the resolution is next Tuesday Feb. 19th (the day after President's day).

She is joining the Code Pink fast.

She is 87 years old and refuses to eat again until Conyers begins impeachment proceedings. She told me "I've had a good life. I can't think of any better way to end it."

"demand new orifices"

http://www3.telus.net/Art-Adventures/If_Yer_Not_With_Us_FU/1stHotRodcomp...

That is a boatload a hair .. your head must feel weird and very light!! I know last time I had really long hair and cut it .. it took me days to get used to my head not feeling heavy!

For Minnesota Voters .. our constitution looks to be amended ... I say vote yes.

"Shall the Minnesota Constitution be amended to dedicate funding to protect our drinking water sources; to protect, enhance, and restore our wetlands, prairies, forests, and fish, game, and wildlife habitat; to preserve our arts and cultural heritage; to support our parks and trails; and to protect, enhance, and restore our lakes, rivers, streams, and groundwater by increasing the sales and use tax rate beginning July 1, 2009, by three-eighths of one percent on taxable sales until the year 2034?"

First thing we do .. plow under Woodbury and turn that Republican stronghold into a lake.. ; )

WASHINGTON - As the presidential campaign turned West toward the Feb. 5 Super Tuesday states, Barack Obama began to roll out a message to Indian country that tribes will be included in an Obama administration.

''Tribal sovereignty is the starting place of his heart for Native people,'' said Keith Harper, an attorney with Kilpatrick Stockton in Washington who is chairman of the Illinois Democratic senator's Native American Advisory Council. But Obama's specific mission is to include American Indians in deeds, not words alone, Harper said, adding that otherwise tribes will be left out.

He gave it as his sense that relatively few people are out to damage Indian country nowadays; they just don't know the issues and tend to leave tribes out of account. Obama's attitude is the opposite, Harper said. He wants to change the politics of Washington so that tribal and Native issues are included as a matter of course.

''You have to be in that room, in that dialogue. If you're not there, they won't think of you. ... Barack understands that Indian people have been left out at every level. Sen. Obama is going to make sure they're included.''

Harper said Obama has committed to three measures that will help to translate the promise of inclusion into action: he will appoint an American Indian as senior policy adviser; he will rely on a Native ''kitchen cabinet'' of influential leaders and thinkers to bring Native viewpoints comprehensively into his administration; and he will conduct an annual ''Tribal G8 Summit,'' so-called after the annual meeting of leaders from the world's most economically productive nations. Another specific intention of Obama's is to close the ''jurisdiction gap'' in Indian country, Harper said, by making it possible for tribes to prosecute non-tribal members who commit the majority of federal crimes within tribal jurisdictions.

http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096416605

Fun Fact before a Night of Passion .. CDC slashes AIDS Funding
new
Submitted by Willow on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 6:31pm.
"Ironically...I guess it is all part of the great scheme..."

...to get rid of undesirable people. If floods and tornadoes don't kill them, give them toxic trailers to live in. Or, start a war and occupation. Or, poison the food supply. Or, eliminate environmental regulations. Or, refuse medical coverage and treatment. Or, dump weapons of mass destruction 200 miles off the mid-Atlantic shores. Or, drill for oil and ignore spills off the shores of the Gulf and Pacific Coasts. Or, trash stem cells, instead of using them for research...and on and on and on...All this from the "Pro-Life" crowd.

Pretty Heart, though.

WASHINGTON - The federal government has missed its own postponed deadline to decide whether polar bears need protection from climate change, and critics link the delay to an oil lease sale in a vast swath of the bear’s icy habitat.

“When it comes to the survival of the polar bear, the Bush administration is putting the ‘dead’ back into ‘deadline,’ ” said Representative Edward J. Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat who heads a House panel on climate change.

“Now that the Bush administration has taken care of its clear first priority - taking care of their friends in the oil industry - perhaps they can finally give the polar bear, and the global warming that is causing the bear’s demise, the attention it is due,” Markey said in a statement.

Polar bears use sea ice as a platform for hunting seals, their main prey, and without enough ice, they are forced onto land, where they are inefficient hunters. Warmer Arctic waters mean longer distances between chunks of sea ice, and video footage of drowning polar bears has fueled debate over their future.

The US Geological Survey, in a study conducted to aid the government’s decision, reported last year that all the polar bears in Alaska - about 16,000 currently - could disappear if global warming trends continue.

The Interior Department’s Fish and Wildlife Service was required by statute to decide by Jan. 9 whether the polar bear should be listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act, but three days before that, the agency’s chief told reporters the deadline would be pushed back 30 days.

The second deadline passed, on Feb. 8, with no decision.

On Feb. 6, the Interior Department’s Minerals Management Service sold oil and gas rights across some 29.7 million acres in the Chukchi Sea off the Alaskan coast for a record $2.66 billion - about four times what the government expected to get.

Protesters, including one in a polar bear suit, demonstrated outside the auction, which was held in Anchorage.

Chris Tollefson, a spokesman for the Fish and Wildlife Service, said the timing of the two events was “entirely coincidental.”

“These two things have moved on somewhat parallel tracks, but really the driver in all of this has been the complexity of the issues and the science,” Tollefson said yesterday by telephone.

He said a decision was expected “sooner rather than later” but declined to be more specific.

Environmental groups have notified the government they plan to sue if no decision is reached 60 days after the original January deadline.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/14/7060/

an Alien
http://www.unpiano.com/music/wp-content/music/wipers/no_one_wants_an_ali...
*Les-Chic*

BEIRUT (AFP) – Lebanon’s Hezbollah opposition chief declared “open war” on Israel on Thursday while hundreds of thousands of government supporters filled central Beirut to remember slain ex-premier Rafiq Hariri.
“Zionists, if you want this kind of open war, then let the whole world listen: Let this war be open,” Hassan Nasrallah said in a speech broadcast on a giant screen at the funeral of slain top Hezbollah commander Imad Mughnieh.
The militant was killed in Damascus on Tuesday by a car bombing which Hezbollah has blamed on Israel.
“The blood of Imad Mughnieh will contribute to the disappearance of the Jewish state,” said Nasrallah, whose fighters claimed victory in the devastating July-August 2006 war against Israel.

http://www.guerrillanews.com/headlines/16695/Hezbollah_leader_declares_o...

polar bear

'cept for her ears.

she's smaller.

Concentration camps are too conspicuous for now...
Submitted by CeeCee on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 7:22pm.

Interesting fun facts about the much feared concentration camps.. that crap was first floated by the NWO types during Clinton's presidency. Kinda funny .. if you think about it. Ultra Left using an argument first fronted by the Ultra Right.

Sorry .. CeeCee .. but I find real honest to god 21st Century life worrisome enough without pulling shit out of my ass to worry about that is 99.9% paranoia. Like .. oh .. say .. being out of work and not being able to find a job .. foreclosure .. having a life threatening illness and no health insurance .. missing friends of mine who are long dead of AIDS due to Reagan's idiotic bullshit and seeing the blatant return to that idiotic mentality to potentially kill more of my gay AND heterosexual friends.

But .. you go ahead and get doubly freaked out for me if you want .. ; )

Jones says they are forced to argue their sexual assault cases in secretive arbitration.
A Houston, Texas woman, who says she was gang-raped by her co-workers at a Halliburton/KBR camp in Baghdad, says 38 women have come forward through her foundation to report their own tragic stories to her, but that many cannot speak publicly due to arbitration agreements in their employment contracts.
Jamie Leigh Jones is testifying on Capitol Hill this afternoon. She says she and other women are being forced to argue their cases of sexual harassment, assault and rape before secretive arbitration panels rather than in open court before a judge and jury.
Jones returned from Iraq following her rape in 2005. She was the subject of an exclusive ABC News report in December which led to congressional hearings.
After months of waiting for criminal charges to be filed, Jones decided to file suit against Halliburton and KBR.
KBR has moved for Jones’ claim to be heard in private arbitration, instead of a public courtroom, as provided under the terms of her original employment contract.
Halliburton, which has since divested itself of KBR, says it is improperly named in the suit and referred calls to KBR.
In arbitration, there is no public record or transcript of the proceedings, meaning that Jones’ claims would not be heard before…

http://www.guerrillanews.com/headlines/16687/Halliburton_Accused_of_Sile...

What up???

Submitted by Lauren on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 1:12pm.
Submitted by Lauren on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 3:18pm.
Submitted by Lauren on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 6:05pm.

What is this-- Professor Seder is forcing his T.A. to do the heavy lifting?

Signature:

www.sigzone.blogspot.com

A spokesman for the deceased Banazir Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) said that it does not agree with the Scotland Yard report that the former Prime Minister was killed by the suicide bomb blast (The New York Times, 02/09/08), but insists that it was the assassin’s bullet that did it. Bhutto’s upcoming book even notes that she knew the names and cell phone numbers of the assassins (Reuters, 02/11/08), also having been told that their leader was Osama bin Laden’s son Hamza. Bhutto also attacks Pakistan’s President Musharraf for not doing enough to protect her. Musharraf has in the meanwhile dropped in popularity (Yahoo! News, 02/11/08) to the point that 75% of the country wants him out (Reuters, 02/11/08). While Musharraf continues his one-line goal of eradicating terrorism in Pakistan (Al Jazeera, 02/11/08), Pakistan continues to be host a fatal climate for politics – the most recent suicide bomb blast killed Eidak election candidate Nisar Ali Khan and seven others, and wounded 13 people (Al Jazeera, 02/11/08). Bhutto’s widower is busy using her legacy to try and win the PPP the lion’s share of votes in the upcoming general election (The New York Times, 02/10/08). Ironically, the people rather than Musharraf are putting the pressure on Islamist factions by not voting for them (Reuters, 02/10/08), especially in the violent northwestern region.

http://www.guerrillanews.com/articles/3520/East_Is_East

I have been a total buzzkill in my first full day back on the blog in years, huh!

Sorry!! [Not really .. but .. ya know .. I will try to be nicer from here on out .. ]

But .. rejoice .. I need to go make dinner now!! ; )

Early Canned Peaches, Ya'll!

One by one the regulars are returning.

listening to a recording

http://podcast.thisamericanlife.org/podcast/348.mp3

i'm listening to the part where these two newbie newsroom guys were trying to sneak language into the newspaper.

they're working on "Perverse and often baffling"

to win a bet.

(near the end)

Tell the Los Angeles County Registrar to count all "Decline-to-State" votes.

In what the media is now calling "Double Bubble Trouble," 94,000 "Decline-to-State" votes in Los Angeles County -- 50% of the total DTS ballots cast -- are being rejected due to a ballot design flaw, despite the Courage Campaign's discovery of the "double bubble" problem and official notification to the Registrar prior to Election Day.

Link To Petition-Please Sign

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Al Franken with Steph at the Blue State Ball in Minneapolis

Bjorn, Anna, Wanda, FlamingBuddha, Lucky Maria, Gayest Neil, many many others... the crew has produced some superb discourse over the years.

Will Edwards Endorse Clinton or Obama?

Stay Neutral?

Edwards - VP?
Edwards - Attorney General?

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Edwards Weighs Clinton Endorsement

Excerpts:

As he weighs a possible endorsement in the Democratic race, former Sen. John Edwards is as split as the party he once hoped to lead — and is seriously considering supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, despite the sharp criticism he leveled at her on the campaign trail, according to former aides and advisers.

Several people close to the former North Carolina senator say he may ultimately stay neutral in the race, joining former Vice President Al Gore on the sidelines of the tightest Democratic race in decades.

That may become a stronger possibility if Obama continues to build momentum toward the nomination:

Edwards does not want to back a losing candidate, and neither does he want to join a bandwagon, aides and associates say.

But former campaign aides who have stayed in contact with Edwards say he is eager to play a major role in the race, and is mindful that his backing would only carry weight if it comes relatively quickly — before the March 4 primaries in Texas and Ohio, which could effectively settle the nomination fight.

He also appears to realize that endorsing Clinton would likely carry the most weight, since it would be more unexpected and would provide a jolt of energy to a campaign that is suffering a rough patch, particularly in the wake of Tuesday's election results, which saw Obama sweep Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia.

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The fact that Edwards' endorsement is in demand is in part a statement on how close the Democratic race is.

Edwards won 40 delegates before dropping out, but those so-called Edwards delegates are under no obligation to follow his direction at the Democratic National Convention.

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Link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4281404&page=1

a haiku:

their puppet dances

waves his fist and vows revenge

our sheep bay and dream

neil 4-13-04

Posted by Gayest Neil at April 13, 2004 05:10 PM

calling us names. I was practically rolling on the floor

laughing at his rant about how we're all drug addled

losers. The poor bastid is getting crazier week by week.

a sunny window view

a toy mouse covered with spit

the catbox needs cleaned

Saudis to Execute a Woman for Witchcraft

BEIRUT, Lebanon — A leading human rights group appealed to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah on Thursday to stop the execution of a woman accused of witchcraft and performing supernatural acts.

The New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement that the kingdom's religious police who arrested and interrogated Fawza Falih, and the judges who tried her in the northern town of Quraiyat never gave her the opportunity to prove her innocence in the face of "absurd charges that have no basis in law."

Falih's case underscores shortcomings in Saudi Arabia's Islamic legal system in which rules of evidence are shaky, lawyers are not always present and sentences often depend on the whim of judges.

The most frequent victims are women, who already suffer severe restrictions on daily life in Saudi Arabia: They cannot drive, appear before a judge without a male representative, or travel abroad without a male guardian's permission.

Witchcraft is considered an offense against Islam in the conservative kingdom.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/14/saudis-to-execute-a-woman_n_866...

Keith's laying into the shrub over FISA.
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awesome

They're like Christians in elaborate pajamas.

I wish I could talk like him.

Sheesh Nando...ya just use your mouth.

What are you using now?

creaks as it opens

cat hair is everywhere.

the vacumn's busted

they got their secret weapons and we have ours.

.
Keith is not one of them "Karl Rove democrats"
He got that fire in the belly!

chill winds are blowing
but KO shares his blanket
fuck your fear, fascist
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from a great program. Heard that Sunday.
My favorite show, though, still involves a school girl from northern Michigan that writes a letter to Noriega and gets invited to Panama.

Notice they used torture to get her to say she was a witch?

Governments that use torture can use confessions to create whatever laws they want. GWB is doing that here too.

really tore into Bush!

sitting here financially becalmed waiting for the money winds to blow.

stripping down ancient road bikes and goofing with the doggers, some yard work and honey doo's.

nice vacation from bondo dust and kneeling on concrete.

(the boys bought me a kneeling pad!

i feel like a beloved old minister of the wheels tribe praying at the chapel.

sister mary lugwrench warned me i'd come to this if i erred...)

no pot to piss in. no prospects. but brilliant bloggers make me a billionaire!

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another hairball.

urgent need to say hello

tuna would be nice

..more like lemon icees as we seem to have more ice than snow right now.

good night and
good bloggin.

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its a new dawn

maggiesboy!

or the bars closed early.

Waiting for his cue
Klaatu barada nikto
Gort toasts the planet

Kicking booty...
http://208.109.219.101:8000/live.m3u

the rule two cue kid

bad rhymes, good times, squirl climbs

he's got the bloggie blues!

grime on the keyboard

from turning well-worn wrenches

tinkering around

looking at me askance

"would you quit blogging to the gang

and attend to our needs?"

More Fun Facts ..
new
Submitted by Willow on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 7:56pm.

...if you think I am trivializing those with HIV/AIDS, I was not. I was pointing out the extent greed and selfishness has affected us all in so many life threatening ways. And call it paranoia if you'd like, but while death is inevitable, there seems to be a lot of premature deaths as a result of neglect or intention since the "pro-life" crowd has been in charge. I happen to think it is evil intent.

Six months ago, in my county, not 45 minutes from the Hill and White House, a 12-year-old child died because he had an abscessed tooth. The mother worked but had no medical coverage and was waiting for state coverage. But, of course, you are aware the president vetoed a children's medical coverage bill and congressional Republicans are happy to uphold it, essentially ensuring more children will die.

My sister-in-law has had breast cancer; and, she is surviving in fear. Her dad died of cancer; her mother and aunt died of breast cancer; and six months ago, her sister died of ovarian cancer. We worry about what the future has instore for her three daughters, my nieces. I have eight friends who have had breast cancer and I am grateful they are surviving too. In our discussions, we've wondered how much the pollution of the Chesapeake Bay and Potomac River (our water supply) has to do with it. Then come to find out about the dumping of those WMDs off shore--can't be good for us.

Personally, I have my own issues affecting my life that are further complicated by no medical insurance and having to work as an independent contractor.

What may have made my comment sound snide was my commenting on the heart that you posted. I am sorry you misconstrued what I meant by it (my bad.) Despite everything going down to extinguish us, I liked it and think it is pretty. It gives me hope and I wish that for you. And I'm sorry for your loss...our loss.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Feb. 13, 2008
Court Overturns Texas Sex Toys Ban

By ANGELA K. BROWN Associated Press Writer

FORT WORTH, Texas — A federal appeals court has overturned a Texas statute outlawing sex toy sales, leaving Alabama as the state with the strictest ban on such devices.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Texas law making it illegal to sell or promote obscene devices, punishable by up to two years in jail, violated the Constitution's 14th Amendment on the right to privacy.

Companies that own Dreamer's and Le Rouge Boutique, which sell the devices in its Austin stores, and the retail distributor Adam & Eve, sued in Austin federal court in 2004 over the constitutionality of the law. They appealed after a federal judge dismissed the suit and said the constitution did not protect their right to publicly promote such devices.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/5539924.html

I got some drugs at the free clinic today for my bipolar.

I kinda miss the adventure of the manic high on them though.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I'm going to have to ask Leviticus what should be done about those gay boys above.

Simply shocking.

Texans can buy real strap on dildo's!

legal at last!

Yo Hay-suess: You're going to ask a book? I thought you wrote it...

Leviticus is not the name of any person, dumbass.

one last one till tomorrow

Rumor has it that Gov. Tim (oops, there goes another bridge) Pawlenty will be McCains pick for VP.

From today's StarTribune...
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/15588472.html

ST. CLOUD - Continuing a combative crossfire that has marked the opening of the 2008 legislative session, Gov. Tim Pawlenty on Wednesday waved a red veto pen in legislators' faces and vowed "to stop government from digging into your wallets."

Not surprising for a Grover Nordquist Republican, but the MN constitution HAS a line item veto provision.

HOUSE REPUBLICANS STOMP OUT OF CONGRESS, NOBODY CARES: Hey, a whole bunch of GOP representatives angrily walked out of the House this afternoon because they’re so angry about how Josh Bolten and Harrient Miers were finally held in contempt of Congress for all their many crimes against America, God and Nature. Happy angry Valentine’s Day, children! [CNN]

Dump the whole delegate system. Dump the electoral college. Just honestly let us vote. Unless you think the people are too dumb to decide among multiple choices. Or, as Mukasey implies, that the "will of the American [sic] people" is not equal to government directives. If that's so, then maybe we should just wake up and abandon this nice dream of democracy we've been having.

http://www.michigandems.com/020808prs.html

def: the act of throwing someone or something out of a window

what a great word. 1st time i ever heard it was at my kids college orientation. the context was that if you did this from one of the high rise dorms you would be immediately expelled. they then proceeded to talk about the kids who tossed a keg from the eight floor when they were about to get busted and how nobody guessed it would have bounced that high

How's it goin?

It doesn't seem real.

SAm should be here soon. Isn't the show this am?

According to Fox News it is Tuesday. And time for me to get ready for work!

I didn't turn on the TV or choose the channel, btw.

Lucille and pbtrue1 are on page 2 and some of us are over here. Confusing.

Sam, put up a new thread!

im here now, its all dan's fault as usual! hope Sam and Maron wake up early enough to test the equipment for the show

From the other thread...

Well thank you Lucille
Submitted by toniD on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 8:58am.
That was 20 years ago though.

i couldnt see too much of a change from yester year! i love photos of back in the day...i love my parents photos, i stare at them all the time and most are black and white

Some from the early 1920s and many of people I don't know that were friends of my parents. Yet I hate to toss them.

(Political Animal) THE OBAMA BUBBLE....Paul Krugman this morning:
One thing I worry about a lot if Obama is the Dem nominee — and he's surely the frontrunner now — is that there will be a backlash against Obamamania. Actually, it's already starting — probably too late to have much effect on the nomination fight, but in plenty of time to affect the general election.

I hope I'm just a cynical baby boomer who has never really trusted any politician since 1968. But I just have a very bad feeling about the way things are going.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/hype-and-glory/

17, senior year. time flys when you're raising kids. it seems like yesterday when they were crawling around, although i would be lying if i said the teen years have been easy. mine are 19 and 16. although i am still the stupidest person in the world, i see signs that my 19 year old is starting to grow up and settle down a little.

i work in this huge library...i go into the drawings and archives (architectural) and pull out all the black and white photos of the original architects (most have donated their hard work to our libray) and just glare and them and wonder off back in that time!!! wonderful!

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has scheduled pro forma sessions for Tuesday and Thursday “so that Bush cannot call Congress back into special session to take up the now-expired Protect America Act.” The Senate will take similar action.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0208/Democrats_set_pro_forma_sess...

please do not even think of doing that..that is your family's history

FOX News' Top Law Analyst Says Protect America Act Unconstitutional
By Cernig

Andrew P. Napolitano, "a New Jersey Superior Court judge from 1987 to 1995, is the senior judicial analyst at the Fox News Channel" and has written that FISA and warrantless seraches of all kinds are unconstitutional and that eforts to weaken Fourth Amendment protection still further ammount to an "Invasion of America" by UnAmerican idealogues.

Of course, he hasn't done so for FOX, but rather for the LA Times in an op-ed yesterday:

The FISA statute itself significantly -- and, in my opinion, unconstitutionally -- lowered the 4th Amendment bar from probable cause of "crime"to probable cause of "status." However, in order to protect the 4th Amendment rights of the targets of spying, the statute erected a so-called wall between gathering evidence and using evidence. The government cannot constitutionally prosecute someone unless it has evidence against him that was obtained pursuant to probable cause of a crime, a standard not met by a FISA warrant.

Congress changed all that. The Patriot Act passed after 9/11 and its later version not only destroyed the wall between investigation and prosecution,they mandated that investigators who obtained evidence of criminal activity pursuant to FISA warrants share that evidence with prosecutors. They also instructed federal judges that the evidence thus shared is admissible under the Constitution against a defendant in a criminal case. Congress forgot that it cannot tell federal judges what evidence is admissible because judges, not politicians, decide what a jury hears.

Then the Bush administration and Congress went even further. The administration wanted, and Congress has begrudgingly given it, the authority to conduct electronic surveillance of foreigners and Americans without even a FISA warrant -- without any warrant whatsoever. The so-called Protect America Act of 2007, which expired at the end of last week, gave the government carte blanche to spy on foreign persons outside the U.S., even if Americans in the United States with whom they may be communicating are spied on -- illegally -- in the process. Director of National Intelligence J. Michael McConnell told the House Judiciary Committee last year that hundreds of unsuspecting Americans' conversations and e-mails are spied on annually as a consequence of the warrantless surveillance of foreigners outside the United States.

So where does all this leave us? Even though, since 1978, the government has gotten more than 99% of its FISA applications approved, the administration wants to do away with FISA altogether if at least one of the people whose conversations or e-mails it wishes to monitor is not in the U.S. and is not an American.

Those who believe the Constitution means what it says should tremble at every effort to weaken any of its protections. The Constitution protects all "persons" and all "people" implicated by government behavior. So the government should be required, as it was until FISA, to obtain a 4th Amendment warrant to conduct surveillance of anyone, American or not, in the U.S. or not.

If we lower constitutional protections for foreigners and their American correspondents, for whom will we lower them next?

And then they came for the dissenters.

http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2008/02/fox-news-top-law-analyst-says...

Yet I hate to toss them
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Submitted by Lucille on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 9:30am.
please do not even think of doing that..that is your family's history

And have them on a dvd. My brother and I are making a family history disk so the grandkids will have a short history along with the photos. My cousin is getting involved also. It's nice to have the digital options of today. I don't know how they will withstand time though. There seems to be upgrades every year. And then they don't make a way of reading the old stuff. Will DVDs be replaced with something better?

thats great toniD--a lotta work though...i see them do the same thing in the archives, but they hire someone to do it for them...

i remember when i would visit my sister on sundays and her hubby would play vinyl LP's and explain that one of these days LP's are going to be able to fit in the palm of my hand..( i couldnt stand him so i poo-pooed him off)---now we have the dvd!

is there a maron show today

Joshua M. Marshall, editor and publisher of Talking Points Memo, who wins The Polk Award for Legal Reporting.
"His site, www.talkingpointsmemo.com, led the news media coverage of the politically motivated dismissals of United States attorneys across the country. Noting a similarity between firings in Arkansas and California, Marshall (with staff reporter-bloggers Paul Kiel and Justin Wood) connected the dots and found a pattern of federal prosecutors being forced from office for failing to do the Bush Administration's bidding."

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/2448#comment-147317

show?

yup in an hour or so.

11am EST