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Cloned Meat? Yes Please!
Submitted by Lauren on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 12:16pm.
This week, the FDA approved I have long been daydreaming about all of the formats in which meat (Read the rest of this post over on 23/6...) ALSO: Sam's on today for Rachel Maddow! 6-8 pm et. Call in for Casual Friday! |
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oh well now thank you
very much---jeez!! at last!!
Sam's on today
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Chris Matthews mom
you mean like sitting around naked in the living room watching jerry springer shows??? would that have an affect on him mentally??? HA!
ok time to get some work done around here
Congressman calls hearing after White House admits 473 days of email 'missing'
Sixteen days of email missing from Cheney's office
A White House chart shown to Congress indicates no e-mail was archived on 473 days for various units of the Executive Office of the President, a House committee chairman says.
Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., says a White House spokesman's comments suggesting no e-mail had disappeared conflicted with what congressional staffers were told in September. He also said the White House has refused to make the chart public.
On Thursday night, Waxman said he was scheduling a hearing for Feb. 15 and challenged the White House to explain spokesman Tony Fratto's remark that "we have absolutely no reason to believe that any e-mails are missing."
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/White_House_no_email_archived_on_0118.html
yup only bagdad
About 75% of Baghdad's neighborhoods are now secure, a dramatic increase from 8% a year ago when President Bush ordered more troops to the capital, U.S. military figures show.
The military classifies 356 of Baghdad's 474 neighborhoods in the "control" or "retain" category of its four-tier security rating system, meaning enemy activity in those areas has been mostly eliminated and normal economic activity is resuming.
The data given by the military to USA TODAY provide one of the clearest snapshots yet of how security has improved in Baghdad since roughly 30,000 additional American troops arrived in Iraq last year.
U.S. commanders caution that the gains are still fragile, but at the moment U.S. and Iraqi forces "basically own the streets," said Col. Ricky Gibbs, a brigade commander in southern Baghdad.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2008-01-17-baghdad_N.htm?loc=int...
A Great White Dope ...
its only a number
White House balks at first question from Raw Story: Did the surge set back Iraq's plan by five years?
Eric Brewer
Published: Friday January 18, 2008
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The following is the first White House report from Eric Brewer, who will periodically attend White House press briefings for Raw Story. From 2005 to 2007, he was a contributor to BTC News. He was the first person to ask about the Downing Street memo at a White House briefing.
When the Iraqi defense minister — whose name is either Abdul Kadir (according to the NY Times) or Abdul-Kadir al-Obaidi (according to the Guardian U.K.) or Abdul Kadir Muhammed Jasim (according to the U.S. Department of Defense) — said on Monday that Iraq would not be able to handle its domestic security without U.S. help until perhaps 2012, I thought it would raise some eyebrows.
After all, a year ago when President Bush was selling his surge, he boasted that Iraq planned "to take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November." I assumed that meant November of 2007, not 2012. So has the wildly successful surge set back Iraq's domestic security plans by five years? That was the question I intended to ask Tony Fratto at the White House Thursday.
Just before I could, though, Olivier Knox of AFP asked a related question. Noting that various Iraq officials had floated different dates for when Iraq would take over its domestic security, Knox asked, "Has there been any kind of official notification from Iraq to U.S. officials about what date is the right one, given the variation in the public ones?"
Tony answered, "No," and added that it was all up in the air. That we're just starting to converse with Iraqis about a long-term security agreement, and that it's premature to talk about what that arrangement will be.
Knox tried again: "I understand that, but we're also talking about an ongoing United States' troop withdrawal from Iraq...I don't understand how 2009, 2012, 2018—I don't understand how these variations don't have an impact on the course of U.S. policy over the next couple of years."
Tony answered that they do impact it, but that we have to let the discussion happen.
Then I took a whack. I asked Tony:
"Does the White House agree with the Iraqi defense minister's statement that Iraq may not be able to handle its domestic security until 2012?"
Tony said, "I'm not going to comment on whether it squares with our internal thinking or not. I agree that he made that statement." [laughter]
Me: Ok, well, a year ago the President said that Iraq has a plan to take over domestic security by last November. Now Iraq says maybe 2012. In the interim between those two statements there was the successful surge. So did the surge set back Iraq's plan by five years, or what?
Tony: No, I don't want to make estimates that might either, that seem to accelerate or decelerate. I think that what we would like to say is that we would like to get through this period of bringing security to Iraq, allow them to make the political and economic reconstruction changes that they need to do. Just noting that we got some good news out of the IMF recently, and their expectations for Iraqi growth over the next year are, you know, growing as much as 7 percent, and that's good for the Iraq economy. We want to see continued progress there, and all of these things will have an impact as to what the nature of our relationship is with Iraq. But we want to have a long-term commitment to Iraq because they're our strategic partner in this region and they're very important and we have invested a great deal there. So, but I'm not going to try to, you know, play games with timetables and expectations.
I agree with Tony that we certainly have "invested a great deal there," but, unfortunately, with no timetables or expectations for Iraqi security forthcoming from the White House, it looks like we'll be investing a great deal more.
1000 points of light.
We won a big victory in my hood this week:
[COMMENTARY] "An ounce of hypocrisy is worth a pound of ambition," a famous publisher once said. Hypocrisy and ambition, alas, are the dominant themes that have emerged from Michigan Messenger's months-long investigation into Barrett Moore, the chief executive officer of Sovereign Deed, the private security company looking to set up its headquarters in Pellston, Michigan. And when hypocrisy and ambition are combined, the result is sometimes absurd to the point of surreal.
http://www.michiganmessenger.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=F37E4005AD02D78...
In promoting Sovereign Deed, Moore has emphasized the military expertise of himself and the company's top officials. On the company's Web site, Moore states that he "served as an intelligence officer in the U.S. Army, specializing in issues related to the non-proliferation of biological weapons and related weapons of mass destruction (WMD)."
What Moore's Pentagon patrons and political allies in Michigan have not known is the true story of Moore's military service. According to U.S. Army record keepers, Moore never completed his Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) program in college and was discharged from an inactive branch of the Reserves in 1994 without ever having gone through basic training. Contrary to the claims on Sovereign Deed's Web site, Moore never served as an Army intelligence officer, or in any other branch of the country's armed forces.
http://www.michiganmessenger.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=727
A Great White Dope ...
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
thats too funny, thanks for making my happy friday morning---
fazed out
Minnesotan dies after troopers use Taser
'Uncooperative' Driver Dies After Minnesota Troopers Stun Him With Taser
More study is needed to determine why a 29-year-old man who had crashed his car died after state troopers stunned him with a Taser, according to autopsy results released Thursday.
The family of Mark Backlund described him as healthy and said hospital staff told them his arms had been "flailing around" before he died.
"They couldn't get his heart started," Gordon Backlund, his father, said in an interview at the family home in Fridley, a Twin Cities suburb.
The autopsy report said only that "further studies" were needed. The State Patrol has said Backlund was "uncooperative" with troopers after crashing his car on Interstate 694 in the suburb of New Brighton.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Minnesotan_dies_after_troopers_use_...
money they dont have
Only in Zimbabwe: 10-million-dollar bill
Zimbabwe Issues New 10-Million-Dollar Bill to Keep Up With Inflation; It's Only Worth $4
ANGUS SHAW
AP News
Jan 17, 2008 15:50 EST
Zimbabweans will be soon lining their pockets with 10-million-dollar bills.
The central bank annouced Thursday it would increase the denomination of the nation's highest bank note more than tenfold to keep pace with the world's highest inflation rate, officially estimated at 25,000 percent annually. Independent financial institutions say real inflation is closer to 150,000 percent.
The new 10-million note is the equivalent of about $4 at the dominant black market exchange rate.
In an effort to end chronic cash shortages and long, chaotic lines at banks and automated teller machines, the bank will issue the new notes on Friday along with 1-million and 5-million dollar bills, said Reserve Bank Governor Gideon Gono.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Only_in_Zimbabwe_10_million_dollar_...
Obama supporters
from a labor party in Nevada calls out Clinton for trying to stop casino workers from attending caucus' where they work. Here it is:
http://audio.cbsnews.com/2008/01/17/audio3726132.mp3
Hillary camp calling it racist. Why is speaking Spanish racist? I'm not making the connection. For me it is as much a non topic as the last kafuffle.
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Kudos to Lauren for writing about eating cloned meat... Because we need more Spam.
sayin'----this is my message to you-oo-oo
Brain surgery lets woman listen to music
Woman Who Believes Music Triggered Seizures Can Listen to Music Again After Brain Surgery
Now that surgeons have operated on Stacey Gayle's brain, her favorite musician no longer makes her ill. Four years after being diagnosed with epilepsy, Gayle recently underwent brain surgery at Long Island Jewish Medical Center to cure a rare condition known as musicogenic epilepsy.
Gayle, a 25-year-old customer service employee at a bank in Alberta, Canada, was suffering as many as 10 grand mal seizures a day, despite being treated with medications designed to control them. The condition became so bad she eventually had to quit her job and leave the church choir where she sang.
Eighteen months ago, she began to suspect that music by reggae and hip-hop artist Sean Paul was triggering some of her seizures. She recalled being at a barbecue and collapsing when the Jamaican rapper's music started playing, and then remembered having a previous seizure when she heard his music.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Brain_surgery_lets_woman_listen_to_...
Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns Resigning
R. Nicholas Burns, long one of the most high-profile diplomats at the State Department, is resigning and will be replaced by U.S. Ambassador to Russia William Burns, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice announced today.
As undersecretary of state for political affairs, Burns has dealt with many of the most controversial issues facing the Bush administration, including the current effort to mobilize international support behind a new U.N. resolution on Iran. Burns will leave in March, but Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has asked him to stay on after that as a special envoy to deal with India nuclear negotiations, U.S. officials say.
Burns, 51, is leaving for personal reasons, in part because he will soon have three daughters in college, said a senior State Department official. He has not yet committed to another job, U.S. officials say.
"This is a very bittersweet time for us because Nick Burns had decided that it is time for him to retire," Rice told reporters. "He has decided that it's the right moment to go back to family concerns."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/18/AR200801...
damn only now
LOS ANGELES - Hollywood directors reached a tentative contract deal Thursday with studios, a development that could turn up the pressure on striking writers to settle their 2-month-old walkout that has crippled the entertainment industry.
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"Two words describe this agreement — groundbreaking and substantial," said Gil Cates, chair of the Directors Guild of America's negotiations committee. "There are no rollbacks of any kind."
Among other things, the three-year agreement establishes key provisions involving compensation for programs offered on the Internet.
That issue has been a key sticking point between striking writers and the studios, which broke off talks on Dec. 7.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_en_mo/hollywood_labor
You have to wonder
How long before we will need $10M to buy a loaf of bread here.....
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World Bank closes offices after bomb threat
he World Bank said on Thursday its security staff was investigating a bomb threat made by telephone and told employees of its Washington headquarters to stay home on Friday.
"The bank is working with law enforcement officials to determine the validity of the threat," the bank said in a statement.
"As a precautionary measure, bank group management has decided to close all World Bank group leased and owned buildings in Washington on Friday," it added.
The financial institution, which provides loans to poor countries to fight poverty, is located about a block from White House and employs about 8,000 in at least seven buildings in downtown Washington. The bank's sister organization, the International Monetary Fund, said it would be open on Friday but told employees they do not have to come in.
In August 2004, security was beefed up around both institutions after U.S. intelligence warnings of possible threats to attack the New York Stock Exchange, the World Bank and IMF. (Reporting by Lesley Wroughton; editing by Jackie Frank)
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN17273417
Anonymous on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 11:41am.
That is the second controversial high ranking policy fabricator I've heard of this week.
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Fernando
Thanks for the news on Brittany. Truth stranger than fiction everyday.
we will need $10M for a loaf of bread
i can accomodate that request. how many loafs would you like. hell,i'll even throw in some fish.
is there any real difference
between the fed getting inflation under control while watching us lose all our purchasing power
vs.
letting inflation run and giving us a rate cut which would jump start the markets.
‘Iraq’s government is at
‘Iraq’s government is at a stalemate.’ Writing in the Washington Post this morning, Iraq’s national security adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie says that “Iraq’s government is at a stalemate.” Al-Rubaie writes that “it has been impossible to maintain a political consensus on many important issues,” partially because “the U.S.-dominated coalition, which has its own objectives, must be accommodated.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR200801...
count again
On the ground in NH: Recount Update
Writing this last night, I was quite tired. I will post photos - the slits are not "through the box" in the sense that they are in the middle of the cardboard. They deliver the ballots in a variety of cardboard boxes. The lid of the cardboard box is taped and has various seals on it, some old, from using the box before, some new. The slits cut through any tape or seals. They don't cut into the cardboard itself, and I'm going to edit the post above to clarify that.
The other thing that isn't clear from the above post is the timing.
1. We noticed the slits in the vault and confirmed when they brought the ballots out that the slits were still there.
2. Then we looked at the ballot boxes as they were being delivered. Those, too, had slits.
3. Then we visitied towns that had ballots scheduled for pickup. We had time to visit only two towns. Both towns had ballot boxes with no slits.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_bev_harr_080118_on_the_ground_in...
anybody listen to the chimp?
i missed it but saw the highlights on a newsfeed. cspan-1 is doing the dem, puke, and neutral call in.
did everyone remember to donate to edwards today?
The House Oversight
The House Oversight Committee announced yesterday that it will hold hearings on missing White House e-mails. Responding to White House claims that there is “no evidence” of missing emails, Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) released “an internal White House study” identifying “473 separate days in which no electronic messages were stored” by White House offices.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR200801...
Hammering McCain
Paddy hooks it up.
Closes with a happy thought. Great short read.
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np ghettodefender. Did you catch TYT post game yesterday? Wow...
Britney made a shop open at 2am, bought a mans shirt and a thin black tie. Problem is... She walked out of the mall w/o pants, and they had pictures. What happens to people who live such lives?
CNN reported yesterday that
CNN reported yesterday that “lobbyists are working overdrive in Washington trying to make sure that their cash cows are not affected by any economic stimulus plan.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/17/lobbyists-trying-to-influence-t...
kudo's for randi too fernando
Randi Rhodes Puts Robert Wexler Over 200,000
The Randi Rhodes Show worked its magic today just as it used to do for www.afterdowningstreet.org almost three years ago. Congressman Robert Wexler came on and discussed the need for Cheney impeachment hearings. His petition at http://wexlerwantshearings.com passed the 200,000 mark before the show was over.
I live blogged this:
3:25 Randi just said that Conyers phoned her last night to chat, and she brought up impeachment, and he refused to talk about it, said that he'd just called to chat. Apparently he's trying to make friends with people he was friends with two and a half years ago when he was pushing for impeachment. He's feeling the pressure bad and hasn't figured out what to do.
3:27 Randi is playing part of Wexler's floor speech on impeachment from Tuesday evening...
-- commercial break --
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_sw_080117_randi_rhodes_put...
WMD's
Sibel Edmonds Case: Nukes for sale (Pt 2)
In a blockbuster article two weeks ago, the UK's Sunday Times described how a criminal network of Turkish, Israeli, Pakistani and American diplomats and officials conspired to steal nuclear secrets and sell them to the highest bidder in the nuclear black market.
The article, based primarily on the case of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, noted that:
"The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain's Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations."
The decisions to preserve those "diplomatic relations" - Pakistan, Turkey and Israel - were made by people within the US Government who happened to be personally profiting from those same relationships.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_luke_ryl_080118_sibel_edmonds_ca...
we will need $10M for a loaf of bread
Pretty soon, there will be no bread to buy.
http://www.beeguardian.org/
“The CIA has concluded
“The CIA has concluded that members of al-Qaeda and allies of Pakistani tribal leader Baitullah Mehsud were responsible for last month’s assassination of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto,” according to CIA director Michael Hayden. He also said the groups were “behind a new wave of violence threatening that country’s stability.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR200801...
Yesterday, Rep. Marcy Kaptur
Yesterday, Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) “launched into a lengthy question to Ben Bernanke during the Fed chairman’s House testimony.” “Seeing as how you were the former CEO Of Goldman Sachs,” Kaptur began before being “quickly stopped by Mr. Bernanke and the laughter in the room.” “I’ve got the wrong firm?” she asked, before being corrected that she was thinking of Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. Said Mr. Bernanke: “I was the CEO of the Princeton Economics Department.” (Watch it here.)
Missing points in Blackwater story
Anne E. Tyrrell, Moyock, N.C.
Re "Truck repairs could cloud evidence" (AP, Monitor Nation & World section, Jan. 12):
Your article about maintenance made to Blackwater vehicles failed to mention several critical points.
First, the majority of vehicles used by Blackwater under our contract to protect and defend U.S. government officials are owned by the U.S. government. Blackwater cannot repair, modify or add to these vehicles without direction from the government.
The alterations to the vehicles in question were made before any outside investigations were launched. And they were initiated after the completion of the State Department's own incident review which included photo documentation of all damage.
Furthermore, these changes were made to all vehicles in expectation of the all-too-frequent attacks by insurgents - not just the vehicles involved in the Sept. 16 incident. The vehicles being used were easily identifiable by color and were painted as a precautionary measure in case they were being specifically targeted.
Well-maintained vehicles are essential in supporting Blackwater's defensive mission. At least 10 Blackwater professionals have been killed or permanently maimed in vehicle attacks.
Had the company been asked to refrain from altering the appearance of any of the vehicles in question, we would have agreed. Blackwater would like to see accurate results of investigations as much as anyone else. The company continues to cooperate fully with these investigations.
ANNE E. TYRRELL
Moyock, N.C.
http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080118/OPINION/8011...
The $10 solution
A year ago Thursday, President George W. Bush announced his "New Way Forward" in Iraq. By the most important measurement - huge reductions in U.S. and Iraqi deaths - it has been a remarkable success. We say that as a newspaper that has been critical of the American misadventure in Iraq since Day 1, and despite our skepticism of a year ago about the troop "surge" and policy shifts involved in the "New Way Forward."
Although by most other measurements, the last year in Iraq is a success only by comparison with the three years before, the fatality numbers don't lie: In December 2006, 112 U.S. troops died in Iraq. A year later, the figure was 23. In May of 2007, 126 U.S. troops were killed. A month later, as the full effect of 30,000 extra troops of the surge began to be felt, the number dropped to 101. The number has been declining, more or less steadily, ever since.
Here's another number that doesn't lie: $10. Ten bucks is the daily "fee" (some say a better word is "bribe") the United States now pays to each of the 70,000 "concerned local citizens" in Sunni tribal areas to persuade them to stop cooperating with insurgents.
That's $255 million a year to buy their cooperation. The obvious question is how long the "CLCs" will have to be paid off. But even if it's 10 years, it's less costly than prosecuting the war for a single week.
While violence is down, it is by no means gone. Six U.S. soldiers were killed Wednesday when a booby-trapped house blew up in Diyalah Province south of Baghdad. Not long afterward, U.S. planes dropped 50,000 tons of bombs in a single day on insurgent strongholds in Diyalah and other southern provinces.
And Iraq continues to exude bad news: We learned last week that in May 2005, security guards working for Blackwater Worldwide on behalf of the State Department dropped CS gas from a helicopter onto a crowd at the Assassin's Gate checkpoint outside Baghdad's Green Zone. CS is a form of tear gas the use of which is strictly controlled by the U.S. military - unlike Blackwater itself.
http://www.bendweekly.com/Opinion/Editorials/12305.html
European Ethics Group Opposes Food From Cloned Animals
The report, from the European Group on Ethics in Science and New Technologies, which advises the European Commission, is likely to weigh heavily in the growing European debate on the issue. It counters a scientific report released there last week that, like one by the Food and Drug Administration, found no human health concerns connected to the consumption of meat and milk from clones.
Unlike in the United States, the European Commission is required by law to consider ethical criteria when approving new foods. The new report notes that cloned farm animals have much higher than normal prenatal death rates, as well as a higher prevalence of physiological problems after birth.
Cloned animals' surrogate mothers also tend to have problems during birth and in some cases must be euthanized.
"At present, the EGE does not see convincing arguments to justify the production of food from clones and their offspring," the report concludes.
"I'm just thrilled," said Joyce D'Silva, ambassador for Compassion in World Farming, an animal welfare group in Godalming, England. "There may be no problems from eating this stuff, but there are problems producing it. Ethical problems that are very important."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR200801...
Sibel Edmonds Case: Nukes for sale (Pt 2)
lucille - what impact did outing valerie plame and shutting down brewster jennings have on this network thriving?
i have always felt she was outed because she was getting too close to some nasty stuff that was going on. it wouldn't be prudent to interfere with a revenue stream.
Romney on Leno tonight
Will he bring up the lobbiest in his campaign?
and yeah, rebates are the Republican way of buying votes. I don't think the Dem's can say no. Can you say Payola? On one hand McCain says "Spending is out of control". On the other Bush says hurry up with the rebates.... Talk out your ass much?
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Drought, population and biofuels threaten food supplies
HUMANITY is eating more food than it is producing.
As world food prices soar to record levels, scientists are warning that global food supplies are rapidly diminishing due to water shortages, fiercer and more intense droughts, soil loss, increased land competition from crops grown for biofuel and humanity's apparently insatiable appetite for meat.
According to leading science writer Julian Cribb, the greatest challenge this century will be to double global food production with less land, less water and less nutrients — all in drier and hotter conditions.
Speaking yesterday at a Melbourne conference, Professor Cribb said that while public awareness of climate change had grown exponentially, the world had remained relatively ignorant of the fact it was entering a prolonged period of food shortages.
According to his discussion paper, The Coming Famine, there will be about 9.3 billion people living in the world in 2050 who will eat as much food as would 13 billion people at today's levels. The UN's environmental program estimates global food output must rise by 110% to meet demand for food in the coming 40 years.
Professor Cribb said research had shown that by about the same time, half the world could be battling regular drought. By 2050, 7 billion out of 9 billion people will face chronic or critical water shortages. But as soon as 2025, the effects on food will be blatant: water scarcity may mean an annual loss of 350 million tonnes of food — comparable to losing today's global rice harvest.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/drought-population-and-biofuels-t...
European Ethics Group Opposes Food From Cloned Animals
thanks for the graphic illustration. i never did understand the cloning process.
Canada won't copy U.S. rules on meat from cloned animals
Canada is in no hurry to endorse a U.S. government declaration that meat and milk from cloned cattle, pigs and goats are just as safe to eat as their more original counterparts.
And the federal government's hesitation to play copycat is just fine with farmers and at least one national consumer group.
"We do hope Canada won't immediately follow suit," said Bruce Cran of the Consumers Association of Canada. "If you are what you eat, well, what do you want to be?"
This week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said that after years of study, it had concluded that meat and milk from the cloned animals and their offspring pose no more risk than food from traditionally bred animals. It said it hadn't yet reached a conclusion on species other than cattle, goats and pigs.
The FDA also said it would not require meat from cloned animals be labelled, "because food derived from these sources is no different" than food from conventional animals.
"We've questioned it at the National Farmers' Union," said dairy farmer Peter Dowling, a member of the union's Ontario Council. "We don't feel there has been a lot of testing done."
http://winnipegsun.com/News/Canada/2008/01/18/4779534-sun.html
Vegans seek grilled meat warning
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A vegan group is trying to force U.S. restaurant chains to warn California consumers about a cancer-causing chemical that forms in grilled meat, using a state law designed to protect consumers from toxins in drinking water.
The state's restaurant lobby said the legal consequences of the suit are "dire" and fears a defeat could endanger consumers or force restaurants to take chicken off the menu.
Vegans are strict vegetarians who do not consume animal products of any kind, and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, which filed the lawsuit, promotes a vegan diet as part of a healthy lifestyle.
"(The law) is being abused in a way that could mislead consumers ... to change their cooking habits and cause greater health risks. Undercooked chicken is not healthy," said Jot Condie, the California Restaurant Association's president and chief executive.
If it seems consumers have nowhere to turn in choosing a healthy chicken entree, that's exactly the point, said Dan Kinburn, attorney for the Physicians Committee.
"Every day when a parent ... cooks chicken at home for their children they are trying to be health conscious," Kinburn said. "We think if people knew there were carcinogens in grilled chicken they would not choose it as a healthy alternative."
The law at the heart of the attack on grilled chicken was approved by voters as a 1986 ballot proposition that aimed to protect drinking water against cancer-causing chemicals that leach into ground water as a result of industrial activity.
The Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986 also requires businesses to notify consumers when a product contains a carcinogen on a list maintained by the state.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1725208520080118
Oh, do I wish it was still Thursday...
Keep it up, Anons. Your hate only makes us stronger!
she was outed
thats what i have being saying dan---i dont really think the dick wanted her husband as much as he wanted her, and i wonder why????
Portman To Launch Vegan Footwear Line
Natalie Portman has collaborated with a fashion firm to launch a line of vegan footwear.
The Natalie Portman Collection -- made in partnership with specialty shoe retailer Te Casan and the actress' stylist Kate Young -- will feature 20 pairs of limited-edition, hand-crafted designs that are completely animal-friendly, with a price tag of $200 each.
The star says, "As a vegan, I don't wear leather, fur or feathers. Shopping for clothes hasn't proved too difficult, but finding chic footwear has definitely been a challenge."
Yaniv Shirazi, Te Casan president, adds, "We met with Kate and Natalie to discuss what Natalie was looking to do and it was immediately clear that this would be a fantastic collaboration.
"There are so few animal-free collections out there, and Natalie's ideas were really great, in terms of style."
The line will debut in stores February 1 with 100 percent of proceeds benefiting The Nature Conservancy, an organization dedicated to protecting the environment.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=2355...
we support the troops
Four Years Later, the Fallout of Iraq
Joe Wheeler, an Iraq vet who suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, says it's criminal to call war a "learning experience."
When Joe Wheeler enlisted in the military in 2000, he was thinking about student loans a whole lot more than about terrorism. He came from a poor family with six siblings and worked his way through college, graduating with about $50,000 unpaid. Two years out of college, he was drowning in expenses. In the pre-9/11 era, at the tail end of ten years of relative peace, Wheeler figured that joining the Army would be a quick route to debt relief and graduate education.
"I was in a pretty dire situation, and I felt like it called for serious action on my part," Wheeler told me in an interview. "I didn't join expecting to go to war."
The plan was to spend a year or two on base and then get on with his life. But just months after he entered basic training, the twin towers fell, and there was no way out for Wheeler. He waited for a year and a half as the fighting intensified and the anxiety built among soldiers on the home front. In that time, Wheeler got over a major case of squeamishness - "I hated the sight of blood," he says - and trained as a medic. He began working his way toward an MBA in business administration, hoping to earn a middle management position at a local company and raise a family. His wife became pregnant. But all the while, the prospect of war sat like a lump at the back of his throat.
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=49901
Submitted by Harold on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 12:10pm.
How Sad...
To hate. I feel sorry for you.
axis of evil
Ahmadinejad scorns US and Israel
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Iran's leader spoke out as Israel test-fired a ballistic missile
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has accused US President George W Bush of "sowing the seeds of division" during his recent Middle East visit.
Mr Ahmadinejad said Mr Bush had brought a "message of confrontation" during his tour, during which he warned Arab allies that Iran posed a threat.
In an interview with al-Jazeera TV, the Iranian leader also said Israel "would not dare" attack Iran.
He spoke as Israel announced it had test-fired a ballistic missile.
Reports in the Israeli media said the long-range missile was aimed at intercepting aerial threats against the Jewish state.
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=49899
Learning to Love Your Fruits and Vegetables
Caitlin Ferguson, first-year Merrill student, is frustrated with the limitation of vegan food in the dining halls and is concerned with the inefficiency of vegan food labels.
“When food is mislabeled as vegan or not labeled at all, especially in the dining hall where the ingredients or nutritional label is not at hand, it can be inconvenient and frustrating,” Ferguson said.
Veganism promotes a lifestyle in which a person’s diet excludes any products derived from animals such as meat, poultry, and fish. This also includes all animal byproducts, including milk, cheese, and eggs.
Ferguson, who has been vegan for six years, has noticed a dramatic difference in her health since she cut meat and dairy from her diet, including clearer skin and a strengthened immune system.
Before becoming a vegan, Ferguson considered many factors including environmental awareness, animal rights and health concerns before making the lifestyle change.
“Being a vegan is an all-encompassing beneficial lifestyle to animals and the environment,” she said.
While Ferguson appreciates the health benefits of being a vegan, she also warns against certain risks associated with a vegan diet including becoming a “junk-food vegan,” which is a person who limits their diet to eating unhealthy, over-processed foods like potato chips and Oreos.
While grocery stores and restaurants in Santa Cruz like New Leaf and Saturn Café offer a variety of healthy vegan foods, UCSC dining halls also provides students and faculty with vegan options.
According to Fernando Ruis, the Crown/Merrill dining hall shift manager, all campus dining halls offer a variety of meal options that adhere to students’ dietary needs.
http://www.cityonahillpress.com/article.php?id=957
no fuck that---it has to be democratic nothing else--gw
Can Democracy Exist With Tribalism?
It would be naive in the extreme to discount ethnicity in any African election. And while the world looks on and people struggle as to what to make of the Kenyan presidential elections and the ensuing violence that has claimed more than 600 lives and internally displaced thousands of people, the solutions or answers are neither simple nor straightforward. It is indeed deeply perplexing, to say the least, to try and wrap one’s head around this practice of people’s power, called democracy, whose touted nobility is now deeply intertwined with and sullied by the dipsomaniac expressions of political violence, tribal murder, and mob killings all in its hallowed name.
Kenya is no different from the rest of Africa where tribal loyalties run deep. When it comes to the exercise of democracy it is only normal that voters would like to see their tribesmen and women in positions of power since they believe that this would translate into a better quality of life for them. So that when these usually highly charged political affairs do not turn out as expected for one group or the other violence, deadly violence, is usually the next logical step.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_michael__080117_can_democracy_ex...
Doctors' Group Encourages Vegan Diet Over Avandia
A group of professional doctors has petitioned the FDA to add additional information to the label of the controversial type-2 diabetes drug Avandia. The request may surprise you as it did me. They are not petitioning to place another warning about heart failure or the increased risk of heart attack that has been so widely publicized in recent months, but rather to encourage diabetics to adopt a vegan diet. The group has requested that label include a statement saying that a low-fat vegan diet is a safer and more effective approach to controlling blood sugar than Avandia.
The benefits of a low-fat vegan diet extend far beyond controlling blood sugar levels. This type of diet can also lower cholesterol levels, assist in weight loss and even protect against heart disease. The group believes that these facts should be made aware to everyone and especially those suffering from type-2 diabetes.
The FDA hit Avandia with two "black box" warnings over the last half of 2007 and 2008 has not started off that well either. A study unveiled last week attributed more than 83,000 heart attacks to Avandia. GlaxoSmithKline, the makers of Avandia, maintain that their drug is safe and that recent studies are flawed.
http://houston.injuryboard.com/defective-drugs/doctors-group-encourages-...
choices choice i tell ya
Nancy's Choice: Affleck or Nirenberg
Citizen John Nirenberg, awakened from his political slumber by the Bush administration’s assaults on the Constitution and frustrated by the inaction of Congress, made a choice. John decided to pay a visit to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. His mode of transportation? A pair of 60-year-old feet. His path? Route 1 from Faneuil Hall in Boston to Capitol Hill in Washington DC.
Actor Ben Affleck was on a mission too. Ben traveled to Capitol Hill to do some research for his new role in the upcoming movie, "State of Play." Ben will play a congressman whose mistress is murdered. Naturally, he decided to visit House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Ben’s mode of transportation? I'll leave that up to the reader’s imagination.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_cheryl_b_080117_nancy_s_choice_3...
BEAT THE MEAT WITH A VEGGIE DINING GUIDE
Dining out can be a bit of a gamble for vegans and vegetarians. Although more mainstream restaurants are beginning to include better non-meat options on their menus, often they don’t entirely grasp the concept. Beef and fish broth, for example, are off limits. Seafood is too. And, as the founder of the Vegetarians of Alberta Association (VOA) recently learned, sometimes restaurants that claim to be veggie-friendly are anything but.
A vegetarian since 1968 and vegan since 1992, Glen MacLean was appalled to discover that the fake soy chicken dish he ordered was actually real chicken. Even worse, the waiter put up a fight when he tried to send it back. The mistake was eventually sorted out, but Dayna McIntyre, president of VOA, points out, “How can you trust a place when the waiter lies to you?”
Who needs the Bradley Effect?
Speaking in Spanish=racist.
Obama in loin cloth, just fashion? Give me a break.
and.... Dallas jails failed state inspections. The system is working....
USER NAV
the race is on
PBS Tomorrow Evening at 8:30pm
by: Matt Stoller
Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 21:53:02 PM EST
I'm on a PBS special tomorrow at 8:30pm on the Donna Edwards - Al Wynn primary race. I'm assuming it's going to run through the Ned Lamont race and the fights within the Democratic Party. I hope it doesn't suck. Here's the link: http://www.pbs.org/n...
Intelligence officials on
Intelligence officials on both sides of the Atlantic question al Qaeda role in Bhutto killing
Larisa Alexandrovna
Published: Friday January 18, 2008
Scotland Yard says they’re not investigating assassin
Read a detailed timeline of the assassination
Because Pakistani officials refused to demand an autopsy on former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and hosed away evidence at the scene of her killing, her assassination last December may never be solved.
However, some current and former US and British intelligence officials now say the evidence points to Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence Agency (ISI) – the country’s security services – not to al Qaeda, as Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf, Bush CIA Director Michael Hayden, and news reports have claimed.
Moreover, both Scotland Yard and a spokesman for MI6 told RAW STORY this week that British investigators are not examining the question of who killed Benazir Bhutto. They were only charged with identifying the cause of her death.
The investigation is primarily a matter for the Pakistan authorities,” said Nev Johnson, the Press Officer for the British Foreign & Commonwealth Office, which oversees security and the MI6 intelligence service.
Bhutto, the leader of the opposition Pakistan People’s Party, was shot in Rawalpindi, Pakistan on Dec. 27, 2007. Following her death, a bomb detonated, killing 25 people.
Almost immediately, differences emerged in the official story of her death, with a Musharraf spokesman saying she had been killed as a result of hitting her head against a lever on the sunroof of her bulletproof LandRover.
In a 45-minute interview given exclusively to the Washington Post Friday, CIA Director Hayden blamed members of al Qaeda and Baitullah Mehsud, a Pakistani tribal leader.
However, when asked about the allegations that Mehsud, and thus al Qaeda, is behind the assassination, one former high-ranking CIA case officer replied, “That is total bullshit.”
“Mehsud is an ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence] asset. It is ridiculous to think he acted unilaterally. What [the Pakistanis] have [as evidence] is an intercepted conversation, but it is not conclusive that Mehsud is speaking or that he is admitting a role in the assassination. There is some sort of congratulations, but that call could have been made at any time about any topic.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Intelligence_officials_on_both_sides_of_01...
at the wheel of the titanic
Treasury Secretary Paulson says the objective of the stimulus package is broad-based tax relief for those who are paying taxes
Paulson says this has worked in 2001 and in 2003.
(for who?)
Obama in loin cloth
nkhosi ya ma khosi!!
What started on Molokai may set precedent for nation
HONOLULU— Speaker of the House Calvin Say said that he cannot promise that the legislature will hear a bill that would ban the genetic engineering of taro. Speaking for himself and Representative Clift Tsuji, Say said “Your presence is a reflection of your love of [taro]. It's an [attribute] of Hawaiian culture that I share with you. I cannot commit but I've never said that I would not have a hearing. If the House wants a hearing, the chairman and I are open to it. [It will be] sometime this session if there is a consensus.”
The morning consisted of a march from the Hawaii SEED campsite near the Iolani Palace gazebo to the foyer of the state legislature.
Speaking to the demonstrators before the march, organizer Walter Ritte said, "We are not being treated fairly in [this] building... Today is a learning experience. Sometimes we have to raise our voices.”
It attracted politicians from all over Hawaii. Speakers in favor of the proposed ban of GE taro included state representative Mina Morita, who told the crowd that taro “is the symbol of sustainability. It carries us on from generation to generation.”
As the representative for the largest taro-producing district in Hawaii, Morita said, “People need to understand that Hawaiians are our consumers. And they don't want to consume GMO taro.”
Winona LaDuke, visiting from her White Earth Native American reservation in northern Minnesota, said that the movement to ban GE taro is gaining strength, and helping those on the mainland who are fighting similar battles, as she is for her people's wild rice. “I stand her, with the corn people, with the indigenous people of the Big Island. We fight for no GMO for the relatives. [We must] protect the relatives.”
Tesuqui Indian Louie Hena spoke to assorted keiki after the event, “We're fighting this battle for you.” Hena is one of the ‘corn people.' His tribe is fighting genetically engineered corn.
http://www.molokaitimes.com/articles/811612216.asp
Paulsen is speaking now.
Have you ever listened to him speak?
CNN
Paulsen is speaking now.
Bush considering $800 tax rebate to boost US economy: report
President George W. Bush's administration is considering an individual tax rebate of up to 800 dollars as a short term measure to help boost the sagging US economy, a media report said Friday.
The Republican leader was to unveil a fiscal stimulus plan later Friday, amid grim economic news that has united lawmakers and the Federal Reserve chief on the need to revive flagging US growth.
The White House has said Bush would propose policies, not dollar amounts, because details of the plan must be hammered out with the Democratic-controlled Congress.
"Privately, the White House has discussed its support for a tax rebate of as much as 800 dollars for individual taxpayers, more than double the 300 dollar rebate featured in a 2001 effort to spur economic growth," the Wall Street Journal said.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080118104215.zxj8hvdk&show_artic...
Fly away
Romney took the MittJet to Nevada and gives up on South Carolina.
He should just learn to tell the truth. Flying away solves nothing.
USER NAV
French govt move to ban Monsanto GMO draws fire
French government moves to ban the country's only genetically modified (GMO) crop drew fire on Sunday from the speaker of the country's parliament, farmers and biotechnology industry groups.
The government said on Friday it would activate a "safeguard clause" in European law to suspend the commercial use of MON 810, a maize developed by U.S. biotech giant Monsanto.
Writing in the Sunday newspaper Journal Du Dimanche, National Assembly President Bernard Accoyer of the ruling centre-right UMP party said decisions to ban GMOs should be based on "irrefutable" evidence, implicitly criticizing the government for basing its decision on a panel's controversial opinion.
"The scientists on this (panel) have disassociated themselves publicly from the conclusions expressed by the chairman of this body," wrote Accoyer.
"Can our country really bind its future to this fragile and hasty opinion...?" he added, arguing GMOs offered potential public health benefits and calling for parliament to establish its own "high authority" to oversee their authorization.
When a country activates the safeguard procedure it has to provide the European Commission, the EU's executive body, with proof there is new scientific evidence justifying a ban.
http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSPAB00373820080113
Dan
It's the same ole, same ole.
Cut taxes.
I would raise taxes on any company that hires outside the country. Tax cuts only to those hiring here.
what? bush leaves and than theres war??
Israel seals Gaza Strip border crossings
Israel Seals Gaza Crossings in Response to Rocket Barrages; Hamas Threatens Suicide Attacks
Israel sealed all border crossings with the Gaza Strip on Friday, cutting off the flow of vital supplies to the besieged territory in an attempt to stop Palestinian rocket barrages on Israeli border towns.
But violence continued Friday, with Israeli air strikes killing two civilians and one militant while Palestinians fired 16 rockets into southern Israel, including one that damaged a day care center.
The bloodshed clouded U.S.-backed peace talks that Israel and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' West Bank government renewed last month. The Gaza quagmire could complicate President Bush's efforts to prod the sides toward a final peace deal by the end of the year.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Israel_seals_Gaza_Strip_border_cros...
Bush Calls for $140 Billion Economic Aid Package
President Bush called on Friday for a $140 billion to $145 billion mix of tax rebates for American families and incentives for businesses to provide “a shot in the arm to keep a fundamentally strong economy healthy” and avert a deep slide into recession.
The president said the package “must be big enough to make a difference” in an economy as huge as that of the United States, meaning it should be worth about 1 percent of the gross domestic product.
“This growth package must be temporary and take effect right away,” Mr. Bush said. The president said Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. would work with Congressional leaders to get a bipartisan relief package ready as soon as possible.
“Letting Americans keep more of their own money should increase consumer spending,” the president said, repeating a theme he has embraced time and again during his presidency, although perhaps never when, in the opinion of many analysts, the economy was teetering on the brink of recession.
There was speculation beforehand that the relief package would amount to $800 rebates for individual taxpayers and $1,600 for households. Based on the $140 billion to $145 billion range of the entire package, it appeared that the rebates would not exceed $800 and $1,600.
The president called again for Congress to make permanent the tax cuts that were enacted several years ago and are to expire in the next three years. Otherwise, he said, there will be such uncertainty that jobs and economic growth will be jeopardized. But the president did not insist on getting his way as a condition of negotiations on short-term relief.
“We’re in the midst of a challenging period,” Mr. Bush said at the White House, with members of his economic team flanking him. But he said the American economy remains remarkably resilient and has overcome big challenges before.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/business/18cnd-econ.html?hp
Bush's answer for everything
Throw some money at them....they'll shut up.
New Test Finds Depleted Uranium 20 Years After Exposure
The threat was supposed to come from Saddam. Instead it came from their own government.
Recently, a research team from the University of Leicester developed a test which has the ability to detect depleted uranium in urine. Tests on Gulf War veterans exposed 20 years ago have discovered trace amounts of DU.
This test could help with unresolved health claims. To date, the United States government has yet to officially acknowledge the link between Gulf War Syndrome and depleted Uranium. It is estimated 11,000 veteran have died from depleted uranium; 325,000 additional Gulf War veterans have gone on permanent medical disability.
“The U.S. Federal Code Title 50 Chapter 40 2302 defines weapons of mass destruction as follows: 1) The term “weapon of mass destruction” means any weapon or device that is intended, or has the capability, to cause death or serious bodily injury to a significant number of people through the release, dissemination, or impact of:
(A) toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors
(B) a disease organism
(C) radiation or radioactivity
By these standards, DU meets two of three definitions as a weapon of mass dest
Hussein
No More Mr. Nice Guy: Obama Mocks Hillary In Stand Up Routine
LAS VEGAS — The White House campaign has brought a new act to Vegas.
Barack Obama has stepped up his campaign against Hillary Rodham Clinton, and he's trying to use humor to bring her down before this weekend's Democratic presidential caucus.
His argument is starkly different from the "Iowa nice" approach he used in recent weeks when campaigning in the first caucus state. Candidates who go negative there have a history of turning off voters, so Obama rarely criticized Clinton directly in Iowa _ instead he made veiled references to "some of my opponents" _ and he won the state.
But there's nothing subtle about Las Vegas. With a high-stakes match on the line Saturday, Obama embraced local traditions by debuting a biting political standup routine Thursday night that mocked his rival.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/18/no-more-mr-nice-guy-oba_n_82158...
Republican Softbrains
in a squirty can...Thanks, Lauren!
First good Laugh today!
Navy hunts for explosive belt off Silver Strand
SAN DIEGO – A belt-shaped explosive charge is missing in the waters off San Diego after it failed to detonate during a Navy training exercise – and sailors are hoping the tide will find it for them.
According to a statement released by the U.S. Third Fleet, the time-delayed charge disappeared Thursday about 300 yards off the Silver Strand just south of Coronado during an exercise with a Navy explosive ordnance disposal team.
After the device failed to explode, divers waited an hour – as required by Navy safety rules – before returning to the spot where the charge was last seen, the statement said. They couldn't find it.
Divers and sailors in boats searched for the device until nightfall, while other search teams on shore scanned the waters off the Silver Strand through the night. It was still missing Friday morning.
The device was described as a small explosive charge that requires great pressure and an ignition source to detonate.
A Third Fleet spokeswoman said the device was expected to wash ashore at the Navy's Silver Strand Training Facility around noon due to the tides.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20080118-0744-bn18bomb.html
This is my president
Q&A: Feingold charts course
He's hoping to make progress on five key domestic issues in 2008
Sen. Russ Feingold has a plan. Getting ready to head back to Washington as Congress is about to resume, the Democratic senator from Wisconsin has compiled a list of his top five domestic agenda items for 2008: a health care proposal, changes to the No Child Left Behind Act, improving public financing of presidential campaigns, strengthening the Clean Water Act and giving the president line-item veto powers.
He acknowledges none of the proposals are actually going to get passed this year, but he wants to at least move the needle on them. Build some critical mass to present to the new president.
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080117/APC06/80...
in a squirty can...Thanks, Lauren!
mmm. meat whiz on a cracker.
Bush considering $800 tax rebate to boost his sagging poll #s
Anybody trying to sell it as anything other than this is full of oatmeal.
When he trashed the budget to do this in 2001, he was ridin' HIGH.
JUST SAY NO TO BRIBERY
a fundamentally strong economy healthy
only if your last name is ellison, gates, hilton, or walton.
how can a chimp who wears $12,000 suits have any comphrension of whats going on in the real world. if he wants to help the economy, turn off the war.
Rahn Emanuel's brother questions Hillary's Experience
The Curious Math of Hillary's "35 Years of Experience"
Ari Emanuel
Hillary Clinton keeps talking about her 35 years of experience. "I am offering 35 years of experience making change," she said in New Hampshire. "I'm not just running on a promise of change, I'm running on 35 years of change." And she repeatedly mentioned the 35 years again in this week's debate in Las Vegas.
Well, Senator Clinton, I'm confused. I've done the math. You're 60, which means that 35 years ago you were 25. And I Googled your name, looking for all the change you were making as a 25 year old and, frankly, I'm not finding much. You were going to Yale Law School at the time -- which I'm sure was a personally transformative experience, but it's hardly the kind of change that should count on one's Presidential Training Experience resume, is it? Is that when you started your personal Working-for-Change-O-Meter?
That summer, the summer of 1972, you campaigned in Texas for George McGovern's unsuccessful presidential bid. A worthy -- if ultimately futile -- endeavor to be sure, but a notch on your Years of Change belt? Kind of a stretch, don't you think?
But as liberal as you are with your Experience Arithmetic, you are awfully stingy when it comes to the experience and background of Barack Obama.
"He was a part-time state senator for a few years," you recently said of Obama, "and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she said. "And that's his prerogative. That's his right. But I think it is important to compare and contrast our records."
For starters, the state senate in Illinois is not a full-time job, but you make it sound like he was some kind of political temp worker, just filling in when someone called in sick. But leaving that aside, why is it that you get to count your time canvassing for McGovern as working for change, but Obama's time as a community organizer and public housing advocate aren't worthy of mention? And what about his time at Harvard Law (where he was the first black president in the history of the Harvard Law Review)? Doesn't count? But your time at Yale Law does? In the now immortal words of your husband: Give me a break.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-emanuel/the-curious-math-of-hilla_b_82...
meat whiz
aka number 3
Stocks fall after Bush announces plan
NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street resumed its downward trek Friday as skittish investors, unable to hold on to much optimism about the economy, drew little comfort from President Bush's stimulus plan.
Investors had already pulled back from a big early gain, with the major indexes trading mixed as Bush began to speak. By the time the president finished announcing a plan for about $145 billion worth of tax relief, the indexes were well into negative territory.
"It's disappointed in the size of the economic growth package. Wall Street's showing its displeasure," said Kim Caughey, equity research analyst at Fort Pitt Capital Group in Pittsburgh. "Honestly, I think the institutional investors understand the limits to the government's ability to enact economic change."
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/WALL_STREET?SITE=CADIU&SECTION=HO...
my sister married a fischer--wonder if they are related...HA!
Bobby Fischer, Chess Master, Dies at 64
Bobby Fischer, the iconoclastic genius who was one of the greatest chess players the world has ever seen, has died, a close family friend, Gardar Sverrisson, confirmed Friday.
He was 64 and died on Thursday in a hospital in Reykjavík, Iceland. No cause of death was given but he had suffered for some time from an unspecified illness.
Mr. Sverrisson, who lived in the same apartment building in Reykjavik as Mr. Fischer, said: “He was a close family friend and we all miss him very much.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/obituaries/18cnd-fischer.html?_r=1&hp&...
missing in the waters off San Diego
stay classy
and unexploded.
Stocks fall after Bush announces plan
uh, yeah!
Ventura County homeless defy stereotypes, new survey says
Many Ventura County street people are white men, over 40, with a mental or drug problem, survey says.
Seeking more efficient delivery of social services, Ventura County homeless advocates this week released the results of a survey that identifies the typical homeless person in the county as a white male, over 40, with a history of mental illness or substance abuse.
"This profile is really not the stereotypical homeless person in the minds of most people," said Karol Schullkin, a program director with the county's Human Services Agency. "We need to wrap our arms around this and put our collective heads together to try to resolve this."
The survey was conducted last spring by the nonprofit Ventura County Homeless and Housing Coalition, which helps coordinate assistance programs. The group interviewed 273 homeless adults who either live on the street or in county shelters.
The county's overall homeless population numbers more than 1,900, including about 300 children, according to a count conducted last year aimed at ensuring that the region gets its fair share of federal money for social service programs.
In the survey, about 70% of the respondents were men, roughly 60% were white and more than half were over 40. Latinos made up 26.7% of respondents, 6.2% were African American and 5.5% were American Indian or Alaska natives.
Almost all of those surveyed considered themselves county residents and had once held a job in the region. The majority completed high school, with 48% receiving some college or postgraduate education.
"Here's a Polaroid print of who is a homeless person in our community," said Cathy Brudnicki, the coalition's executive director. "They're just like you and me. . . . This clearly shows these are members of our community who live here and became homeless while they were living here."
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-homeless17jan1...
third world country's fight USA goes to supreme court--HA!!
NAIROBI, Kenya — Protests cooled in Kenya on Friday as opposition leaders, still furious about last month’s presidential election, announced that they were switching tactics from street demonstrations to boycotts.
After three days of nationwide rallies that degenerated into battles with police officers, the country was mostly calm, save for a few flash points. Witnesses said that police officers shot and killed at least two people in Kibera, a huge slum on the outskirts of Nairobi, the capital. Earlier in the day, vandals uprooted a length of train tracks that run through Kibera, where a freight train had been looted on Thursday.
In Mombasa, Kenya’s second-largest city and a key port for all of East Africa, hundreds of protesters emerged from mosques to call for a new election. Police officers responded with teargas and gunshots. Witnesses said at least one person was killed, bringing the deaths from this week’s disturbances to more than 20, including several children.
Kenya Opposition Turns to Boycott
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/19/world/africa/19kenya.html?hp
meat whiz
aka bologna on tap
3rd fuel shipment reaches Bushehr plant
Jerusalem Post
Iran received a third shipment of nuclear fuel from Russia on Friday for a power plant being constructed in the southern Iranian port of Bushehr, state radio reported.
The 11-ton consignment arrived at the Bushehr power plant on Friday morning, and the remainder of the remainder of the fuel will arrive in five separate shipments over the next months, the radio report said.
Iran received the first two shipments of nuclear fuel from Russia on Dec. 17 and Dec. 28 after months of dispute between the two countries, allegedly over delayed construction payments for the reactor.
Iran has said Bushehr, the country's first nuclear reactor, will begin operating in the summer of 2008, producing half its 1,000 megawatt capacity of electricity.
Teheran heralded the first shipment as a victory, saying it proved its nuclear program was peaceful, not a cover for weapons development as claimed by the US and some of its allies.
The US initially opposed Russian participation in building the Bushehr reactor and supplying it with fuel, but reversed its position about a year ago to obtain Moscow's support for the first set of UN sanctions against Iran......
go pick cotton and shut the fuck up
Facing Deportation but Clinging to Life in U.S.
WAUKEGAN, Ill. — She is a homeowner, a taxpayer, a friendly neighbor and an American citizen. Yet because she is married to an illegal immigrant, these days she feels like a fugitive.
Whenever her Mexican husband ventures out of the house, “it makes me sick to my stomach,” said the woman, who insisted on being identified only by a first name and last initial, Miriam M.
“I’m like, ‘Oh, my God, he took too long,’ ” she said. “I’ll start calling. I go into panic.”
Over the last year, thousands of illegal immigrants and their families who live here have retreated from community life in Waukegan, a microcosm of a growing underground of illegal immigrants across the country who are clinging to homes and jobs despite the pressure of tougher federal and local enforcement.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/18hide.html?ref=us
i love this story
DENVER — The arrest of a man named Steven Howards in June 2006 after he approached Vice President Dick Cheney at a Colorado ski resort and denounced the war in Iraq might have seemed, at the time, no more than a blip on the vice president’s schedule.
But now the blip has become a blowup, with Secret Service agents — under oath in court depositions — accusing one another of unethical and perhaps even illegal conduct in the handling of Mr. Howards’s arrest and the official accounting of it.
The revelations arise from a lawsuit Mr. Howards filed against five Secret Service agents, accusing them of civil rights and free-speech violations. They offer a rare glimpse into the inner workings of the Secret Service, which usually wears the standoffish, plainclothes cool of its mission like a cloak of invisibility.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/18colorado.html?adxnnl=1&ref=us&adx...
New Rudy Ad: He Was Stonger
New Rudy Ad: He Was Stonger Than the Whole World On 9/11
"When the world wavered, and history hesitated, Rudy never did," says a new ad in Florida featuring actual footage from the World Trade Center attack.
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/new_rudy_ad_he_was_stronger_than_t...
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Legal Immigrants Facing a Longer Wait
Because of an unprecedented surge in immigration applications last summer, legal immigrants will have to wait much longer during the next two years to receive visas or naturalization papers, the top official of the federal agency that issues those documents said Thursday.
In a statement before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, the official, Emilio T. Gonzalez, the director of Citizenship and Immigration Services, said that from now until 2010 the agency would take an average of 18 months to process petitions from legal immigrants for citizenship, up from 7 months or less last year. Visas for permanent residents sponsored by relatives in the United States will take one year, up from the current average of six months or less, he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/18immig.html?ref=us
‘The economy is phenomenal.’
Yesterday on Fox’s Hannity and Colmes, the duo battled over the status of the ailing economy. We should have tax cuts “for the middle class, not for the wealthy,” Colmes said. “How about everybody,” interrupted Hannity. Hannity then proclaimed that he thinks the economy is doing “phenomenal” right now:
COLMES: That doesn’t seem to be helping the economy very much…because things aren’t going so well.
HANNITY: It is, Alan. The economy is phenomenal. Where have you been living?
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/hannity-the-economy-is-phenomenal/
He Was Stonger Than the Whole World On 9/11
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Oh man am I annoyed! I just
Oh man am I annoyed!
I just got through talking to some people who are convinced that Obama is a secret Muslim who won't pledge the flag!
These aren't stupid people. What the hell... GRRR! They don't listen to any reason.
I blame religion. These people are so scared that they hear the word "Muslim" and they jump ten feet. I guess I'm just fortunate that I grew up with Muslims, Jews, Baptists, Catholics, and all manner of other religions, so I see that these people are just people like the rest of us. I told these people that every Muslim I've ever known has been a good person, and I wish I could say that about "Christians".
Poor Jesus. He's looking down on us all and yelling "HEY! I never said that!"
I just had to vent. I like these people in general you know, they are good people. This propaganda makes me so mad.
Im going to go stab an orange or something.
GRRR
The economy is phenominally
The economy is phenominally crappy, yes. And getting worse.
I wish I could slap Hannity, the smarmy bastard.
sorry this joke caught my eye
Stimulus John Hardwood said
Stimulus
John Hardwood said the proposed stimulus would involve checks cut to people and the checks would be a "credit against the payroll tax."
Wonder if he was being precise. If so, the money's coming out of those social security file cabinets instead of general revenue.
-Atrios 11:16
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2008_01_13_archive.html#8323529376294811920
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gw is scared of them thus he scares the soft skulls too....
Youy know they have screwed
Youy know they have screwed up student loan consolidation too. I can't get a rate lower than 7.6.
Now that's a bunch of bullcrap.
I wish the baby Jesus would go ahead and rapture all these Republicans already so they'll leave us alone.
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This person was swearing up
This person was swearing up and down that this info about Obama was on Snopes. So I went and looked at Snopes and they said the email claims that they were the source, even provides a link, but that whoever made the email was counting on nobody checking the link, because they completely debunk it all.
Why is email so much more convincing to people than doing three seconds of research?
I am thinking about becoming
I am thinking about becoming a Buddhist.
Why is email so much more convincing to people
because its want they want to believe after six years of fear and hate
I can never answer those "#1
I can never answer those "#1 Issue" polls. It's all so important. Impossible to choose.
Submitted by Meg on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 1:07pm.
Oh man am I annoyed!
I just got through talking to some people who are convinced that Obama is a secret Muslim who won't pledge the flag!
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Show them this..... it debunks all that Flag and Muslim stuff ....
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/401/political-smears.html
You can read it here where I copied it...
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/2098
this is STILL going around?
Oh man am I annoyed! I just
Submitted by Meg on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 1:07pm.
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this was addressed during the last democratic debate when brian williams asked Obama specifically about
1)obama being Muslim
2)obama not saying the pledge of allegiance
3)obama taking the oath of office on the Koran
all being lies
Obama emphatically stated for the record
1)he is Christian
2)he not only says the pledge of allegiance he leads it at times when the senate meets
3)obama stated he took his oath on the Bible
please set people straight when you hear these lies
links
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
-good anon
--Obama was on Snopes.---
I saw that email .. yeah that SNOPES link was a fake link.
KEWL!--- jinks!
this is STILL going around?
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 1:22pm.
Submitted by Meg on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 1:07pm.
Submitted by Kevin © on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 1:22pm.
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Joe Scarborough: "[I]t's
Joe Scarborough: "[I]t's outrageous that Chris Matthews has to apologize" for Hillary Clinton comments
During the January 18 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough asserted that it was "outrageous that Chris Matthews has to apologize" for his January 9 comment, highlighted by Media Matters for America, in which Matthews said that "the reason" Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) is "a U.S. senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around.
That's how she got to be senator from New York. We keep forgetting it. She didn't win there on her merit." Scarborough, in a discussion with co-host Mika Brzezinski, MSNBC correspondent David Shuster, and MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan, was referring to Chris Matthews' statement on the January 17 edition of MSNBC's Hardball responding to the firestorm sparked by his January 9 comment.
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Hope things are well for you & the family!
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That $800 tax rebate would make a wonderful donation to Progressive Dems.
Build our party on the generosity of Shrubco LLC.
is her husband messed around.
then why isn't monica lewinsky secretary of state by now?
Dan
Yes, however it is true of stupid urban legends as well as political/racial hatred. Ive had people insist that a nail submerged in Coke overnight will dissolve. All because an email said so.
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Sprint to Eliminate 4,000 Jobs As Customer Defections Continue
By Roger Cheng and John Flowers
Word Count: 807 | Companies Featured in This Article: Sprint Nextel, AT&T, Verizon Communications, Vodafone Group, Apple, Motorola, Palm
Sprint Nextel Corp. said it would eliminate 4,000 positions and close 8% of its stores -- moves that will save up to $800 million a year -- as the company continues to struggle to keep subscribers.
Shares plunged more than 25% on the news amid signs that customers continue to defect from the nation's No. 3 wireless carrier. Sprint stock fell to $8.15 Friday on the New York Stock Exchange - its lowest level in five years.
The Reston, Va., company expects to close 125 of its company-owned retail locations and eliminate more than 4,000 third-party distribution points. The company ...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120066394692600583.html?mod=hpp_us_whats...
a nail submerged in Coke overnight will dissolve
i didn't know that. does it matter if its diet coke or that one with ginseng in it :)
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Texas prosecutor who castigated gays in landmark case embroiled in sex scandal
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http://365gay.com/Newscon08/01/011708da.htm
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candyass that I am, I thot of that the last time he did this.
sadly, I chose to pay bills.
a nail submerged in Coke
seems like a waste of a perfectly good nail
When I was very young
the dentist I went to put a tooth in a bottle of coke. His office was right down the street from my dad's Snack shop so I used to go visit him just to talk.
He showed me the progress of the deterioration of the tooth.
He told me, then, that if I want to drink coke, drink it through a straw so it doesn't hit my teeth. I was around six years old.
Maritime Law and the Gold Fringe around Federal US flags
Washington DC and the Federal courts are using Maritime Law, which is statutory law, not the Common Law of our nations constitution.
We've been lied too and have been under Emergency Maritime law since 1934.
No wonder the system is broke.
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/2199
Even our soldiers uniforms have flags with gold around them. They serve the corporation of the United States, not the people of the united States of America.
Coke will damage your teeth.
Coke will damage your teeth. But it's the sugar in it that does it. Rarely are you going to have your teeth submerged. It's more of a thing that happens over a long period of time.
The same email claimed that Coke was used by Police to clean blood off a highway in an accident. Lots of other weird myths in th "Cokelore" email. Presented as fact though because people still believe it.
Nail submerged in Coke is
Nail submerged in Coke is more of a waste of Coke, as the nail is not affected. The Coke, however, goes flat and gets a metallic taste.
What is the gold fringe
What is the gold fringe supposed to symbolize?
Who is getting an $800 tax
Who is getting an $800 tax rebate?
Meg...This is what I was referring to
Bush considering $800 tax rebate to boost his sagging poll #s
Submitted by bibimimi on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 12:53pm.
Is the rebate for normal
Is the rebate for normal people or rich people? And is it like that $300 that he threw out at the peasants when he first got elected?
is it like that $300
pretty much. i would guess if you adjusted the 800 for the change in the price of oil and gold its true value is probably less than that original 300.
still, i don't get why he thinks 800 is going to change anything.
I really should donate my
I really should donate my $800 to Democrats... That'd piss them off!
Oh, maybe I'll use it to join my teacher's union. They'd love that too.
The gold fringe means Maritime Law
Pirates me-hearty, pirates.
As in the Skull and Bones.
Dirty deeds done without consent.
I don't think pirates ever
I don't think pirates ever heeded maritime law.
Dan
People will use the $800 to buy or pay down debt and some will save it. All it dies is give a temporary lift to the economy so that he looks good.
Won't work this time.
Meg...so true.
Especially this batch in DC.
i agree toni
i think it comes in one pocket and goes right out the other and back to a corporation somewhere.
its nothing more than a coney island shell game
pirates never heeded maritime law
if they did, they wouldn't be pirates.
they'd just be flashy dressers.
Won't work this time.
as before, it's only a backhanded way of funneling money to gas, power, fuel and mortgage companies thru debt and delinquency from gouging and unscrupulous biznuz practices.
it's just passing thru the taxpayer it really belongs to.
it's just passing thru the taxpayer
just like beer. you only rent it.
I remember when they gave
I remember when they gave out the last "rebate". People were polled and they were all saying that they were going to use it to pay off bills. Bush would get on TV and go "No no! Dont do that! Go shopping!"
I'm taking my $800
and buying 8 barrels of oil.
when W hit town the same $800 would have bought 16 barrels.
last time the $300 would have bought 6 barrels of oil and a 6-pak o' beer.
ripped off agi'n!
Go shopping
the wilma and betty version of freedoms on the march
Phuck shopping....JMHO
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But I think if I used part
But I think if I used part of my $800 to join my teachers union, well, the Republicans would hate that wouldn't they?
Anything to annoy Republicans.
Dont do that! Go shopping!
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Just like beer. You only rent it.
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Im cutting up my credit
Im cutting up my credit cards. I only have two though. Im getting old cards from friends and I'm going to make a cut up credit card collage.
"Cokelore"
The Coke attracts flies. They clean up the blood.
I use my credit card instead of cash or debit
no transaction fees and I pay it off cold every month.
I am what the credit industry calls a 'deadbeat'.
Fukdem vultures!!
I hate what we are doing to
I hate what we are doing to our kids though. It's awful.
bibmimi...
Careful they'll hit you with a bunch of fees.
Bush very busy
trying to figure how to blame the coming Recession on Democrats
Right Wing Furious Over Snub
Right Wing Furious Over Snub Of Radio Host Who Called African-Americans ‘Savages’
On Wednesday, radio industry magazine Radio & Records Inc. withdrew its 2008 Lifetime Industry Achievement Award to controversial right-wing radio host Bob Grant. In a statement, R&R said that it did not want the award “to imply our endorsement of past comments by him that contradict our values and the respect we have for all members of our community.”
Grant is one of the godfathers of incendiary right-wing talk radio and has been an inspiration for figures such as Sean Hannity and Mark Levin. Glenn Beck often uses one of Grant’s catchphrases — “Get off my phone!” — as a tribute.
The right wing is furious at R&R’s revocation. Levin has written a protest letter to the publication, and Hannity is trying to organize a boycott against R&R’s upcoming convention.
In 1996, Grant was fired for his on-air comments wishing the death of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown. But that remark was only the tip of his offensive, racist speech during his 60 years in broadcasting. A sampling:
Stating that he had been praying for the death of basketball star Magic Johnson, Grant implored, “Why is it taking so long for the HIV to go into full-blown AIDS?” [10/1/92]
“Minorities are the Big Apple’s majority, you don’t need the papers to tell you that, walk around and you know it. To me, that’s a bad thing. I’m a white person.” [Newsday, 6/2/92]
Referring to black churchgoers, Grant said, “I can’t take these screaming savages, whether they’re in that A.M.E. Church, the African Methodist church, or in the street, burning, robbing, looting.” [4/30/93]
Grant onced claimed that the United States has “millions of sub-humanoids, savages, who really would feel more at home careening along the sands of the Kalahari or the dry deserts of eastern Kenya–people who, for whatever reason, have not become civilized.” [1/6/92]
“I’d like to get every environmentalist, put them up against a wall and shoot them.” [New York Times, 4/18/96]
Grant said that he hoped that President Clinton would “exchange bodily fluids” with an HIV-positive immigrant. [New York Times, 4/18/96]
Grant referred to former New York Mayor David N. Dinkins, an African-American man, as a “washroom attendant.” [New York Times, 4/18/96]
Ironically, Grant praised the firing of Don Imus, calling his comments “idiotic and hate filled things.” He still claimed, however, that Imus’s remarks weren’t as bad as what some “hip-hop guys” say, and worried about how “racial hucksters like Jackson and Sharpton” would be emboldened after the incident. Sharpton will be speaking at the R&R conference, which the right wing has blasted as hypocritical.
Radio Equalizer is indignant over the silence of many non-radio right-wing bloggers. “Conservative bloggers sit out controversy,” notes the site. “Why?” Perhaps even they find it difficult to justify Grant’s history of racist, homophobic rhetoric.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/18/bob-grant-award/
I'm going to make a cut up credit card collage
my bud told me someone was collecting worn out bras from anywhere to make a giant 'bra ball' for an art project [i.e. clipping 'em end 2 end and rolling 'em up like string].
Meg--
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Hillary Campaign Opens Fire
Hillary Campaign Opens Fire on Obama Over Reagan Comment
Several Clinton campaign surrogates just excoriated Obama's assertions about Ronald Reagan. "I was stupefied by the comments," says one Hillary backer.
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/hillary_campaign_opens_fire_on_oba...
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Supreme Court denies Kucinich ballot bid
Supreme Court Denies Kucinich Bid to Get on Texas Primary Ballot
Staff
AP News
Jan 18, 2008 14:50 EST
The Supreme Court on Friday allowed Texas to print presidential primary ballots without Democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich's name.
The court refused to step into a dispute between Kucinich and the Texas Democratic Party over a loyalty oath all candidates must sign to make the ballot.
Kucinich and singer-supporter Willie Nelson objected to the party oath that a presidential candidate must "fully support" the party's eventual nominee. Kucinich crossed out the oath when he filed for a spot on the primary ballot.
A federal judge in Austin ruled against Kucinich last week. U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel ruled the state party has the right to require the oath. Kucinich and Nelson argued it violated Kucinich's First Amendment right to free speech.
Texas said its deadline is Saturday to print absentee ballots so that they can reach overseas voters in time for the March 4 primary.
Source: AP News
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/supreme_court_denies_kucinich....
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Giuliani plummets, McCain
Giuliani plummets, McCain jumps in Pennsylvania poll
Ex-mayor of New York has concentrated his efforts on Florida.
By Josh Drobnyk | Call Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON | - In a sign of Rudy Giuliani's sagging political fortunes, the former New York City mayor trails in the GOP primary campaign in Pennsylvania for the first time in the presidential race.
Giuliani's support in the state dipped to 14 percent among Republican voters in a Franklin & Marshall College poll released Thursday, behind Arizona Sen. John McCain, who is backed by three in 10 GOP voters. That's a reversal from the last poll in the state six weeks ago.
What happened? Giuliani has been a virtual nonplayer in the early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and Michigan, pouring his time and money instead into Florida, which votes Jan. 29.
And while McCain, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney have duked it out in each of the early states -- with the world watching -- Giuliani's campaign in Florida has been virtually ignored.
''For six weeks, he has been a nonissue and a nonfactor,'' said G. Terry Madonna, director of Franklin & Marshall's Center for Politics and Public Affairs. ''Maybe you can skip Iowa, but you can't skip Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan and South Carolina.''
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/state/all-inside.6232993jan18,0,58...
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Bush didn’t push his
Bush didn’t push his permanent tax cuts too hard…
By: John Amato @ 11:15 AM - PST So, how did you spend that 300.00 rebate check you got from long ago? I doubt individuals will give it back to the economy. The reason—Bills, bills, bills…. Anyway, all you economists please comment on the Bush economy speech…
Kevin Drum picks up on the tax cut point and says:
Bernanke is saying, as clearly as he can, that a temporary economic downturn shouldn’t be used as a cynical excuse to pass new long-term tax cuts or to make existing tax cuts permanent. Not only would that have no effect on the economy right now, but it would likely make future economic problems even more intractable.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_01/012917.php
Countdown: Torturers Like
Countdown: Torturers Like Us
By: Nicole Belle @ 6:35 AM - PST
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Keith Olbermann speaks with retired Lt. Cmdr. Charles Swift (whose successful representation of the Hamdan case brought to light many of the atrocities happening at Guantanamo) about the sad and disturbing news that Canada has placed the U.S. on a watch list–along with Iran, China, Syria and others–for being a country that tortures its prisoners, due in no small part to our criminally shameful treatment of Canadians Maher Arar and Omar Khadr (imprisoned in Guantanamo at the age of 15).
What a proud legacy Bush and Cheney will leave this country with.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/18/countdown-torturers-like-us/
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