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Surprise Surprise
Submitted by SEDER on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 2:46pm.
The media seems to have noticed that republican presidential pygmies' health care plans seem to lack one element.... a plan to provide healthcare »
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Interesting.
I get mixed feelings about LA Times. I read the article and it seems to stand on it's own. I sure hope it's not used to spin some new non-sense and actually DOES get people to think of the hyperbole of the Noise Machine and their health care policy.
I gave myself a promotion!
forgot to hit a button
no.3
yay
TPM's Josh Marshall makes GQ! Way to go Josh!
http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_6203
MOTY: Give This Man a Pulitzer
With Talking Points Memo, Josh Marshall—along with his obsessive band of political reporters—is building the prototype of what an Internet-based news-gathering organization might one day look like. Don’t believe us? Just ask Alberto Gonzales.
By Sean Flynn; Photographs by Phillip Toledano
Should we use this thread,Sammy ?
?
Guess so..
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
nighty night
yourll
Sucks losing your AAR affliliate
it sucks even worse when you invest in xm radio and end up with lionel and big eddie...
Good Night Lucille..
Have a good one ! :)
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I am...I am...I am...
REM - Superman.mp3
and I can do anything!
Now that would really Suck !
Sucks losing your AAR affliliate
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Submitted by dan on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 3:58pm
it sucks even worse when you invest in xm radio and end up with lionel and big eddie...
*******
KLSD was Great while it lasted!
Brett and,Dan..I'm sorry you guys lost your AAR affiliate too..
The damn FCC and,Fukchannel !
Are you in NYC,Brett?
Dan,xm really did that?Does sirus have AAR?
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Ohio lost three last year, new formats tanked, CC don't care
One election at a time...
good article Sam
tanks!
Bain is Mitt Romney's corp
By Robert Gavin, Globe Staff | November 17, 2006
Thomas H. Lee Partners LP and Bain Capital Partners LLC were the high bidders for Clear Channel Communications Inc. of San Antonio, Texas, the owner of 1,150 radio stations, including 64 in New England.
The deal, among the biggest of its kind in US history, will take publicly traded Clear Channel into private ownership.
The Bain-Lee group also acquires Clear Channel's billboard advertising affiliate, which accounted for 40 percent of the company's revenue in 2005. Meanwhile, Clear Channel will sell 448 small-market radio stations, including 29 in Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire, and all of its 42 television stations, none in New England.
The properties to be sold account for less than 10 percent of Clear Channel's revenue, which totaled $6.6 billion in 2005, the company said.
NYC! I wish...
No, I'm 'back home' in Acadiana, which I'll leave to you to find out where the hell that is. :D
I arrived here in 2001 intending to spend six months with my family. Damn it, I'm still here. :(
It was hard at first then easy, as I had a good reason to stay. Now hard again, reason gone, hope lost, fuck I hate this place!
:-)
Re: Ohio lost three...
Yeah, and what a brilliant business decision that was here in Columbus. WTPG drops AAR to go to some Glenn Beck bullshit and their ratings dropped significantly. Not that they were leading the market as their programming was really done on the cheap basically just to run Franken, but they did better with AAR than without.
So fuck the FCC
Fuck the FBI
Fuck the CIA
Livin’ in the motherfuckin’ USA
-Steve Earle
On the Marc, Get Sam...Go
..still trying to name the Tuesday chit chat show...
hey maggiesboy! I miss Laura's blog.....
Re: Ohio lost three...
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Sorry Brett
I'm spacing!
Louisiana,duh ! :)
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Ha ! Good one,GBC !
:)
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Me too pbtrure1, me too..
..but we're all here now for the most part and there's still activity every Sunday at the blog for displaced Laura listeners. It makes for a nice warm up before the SederliciousSundaySermon.
RR just said...
wounded Veterans have to give back their signing bonus b/c they can't fulfill their entire term. How messed up is that? Here is a link to the story.
Columbus
AAR is perfect for a college town..
pbtrue1 and,maggiesboy..You guys are Correct.
CC doesn't give a sh*t !
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XM and Sirius
XM has a lot of Air America's programming - they replay Thom Hartman's live show at night. They also have Mike Malloy at night, so that's a plus for Malloy fans. At least they carry Rachel Maddow - but lately I listen to that on the podcast. I mainly have XM now for the big variety of music as an alternative to the crap on AM & FM.
Sirius doesn't have Air America but they have Sirius Left - which is pretty good. I prefer XM over Sirius at this point but sometimes I'm tempted to switch over. I'm thinking the merger isn't going to go through but I might be wrong.
Ha!
The key to understanding Thomas Friedman is that he is a buffoonish clown. - PushingRope
name for the Tuesday chit chat show
Seder v. Maron worked pretty well today since it looked like they were gonna get mad at each other ... our screen froze up and we couldn't get it back so we went out for pizza. Hoping to catch it on the replay later.
As a comedy fan I have a love/hate feeling about all the backstage stuff. I like hearing about it because it makes me feel like I'm eavesdropping on a private world. But at the same time, I kind of like Jerry Seinfeld and Jon Stewart so when I hear two other guys I like a lot running them down - it's a little irritating. But I'll live with it. No regrets.
Hillary's Secret Police Returns
http://www.newsmax.com/morris/clinton_obama/2007/11/19/50691.html
Monday, November 19, 2007 3:28 PM
By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann
"Are the Clinton secret police back on patrol?
It looks like they may be making a late campaign comeback.
In a week-end column, Robert Novak alleged that “agents” of Hillary Clinton are “spreading the word that she has scandalous information” about Barack Obama, but decided not to use it. (How considerate of her!)
Obama has come out swinging, accusing the Clinton campaign of trying to swift-boat him and demanding that Clinton either release the information or admit that there is none.
The Clinton camp is shocked that anyone would ever think that it would use such tactics!
Clinton campaign Communications Director (and KGB enforcer look-alike) Howard Wolfson claimed that the campaign had “no idea” what Novak was talking about. Absolutely!
And, as usual, Wolfson tried to turn the embarrassing issue for Hillary into a problem for Barack, claiming he was naive for believing what was in the Novak column. "
addendum
and I can do anything!
except get air america on terrestrial radio!
Thanks for the link,Maggiesboy !
Me too pbtrure1, me too..
Submitted by maggiesboy on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 4:26pm.
..but we're all here now for the most part and there's still activity every Sunday at the blog for displaced Laura listeners. It makes for a nice warm up before the SederliciousSundaySermon.
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Dumb question-What happened to Radio Nation ?
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railroad reasoning
GOSH, fellow Americans, why so surly about the capitulation caucus? The democrats can't worry about abstract stuff like right and wrong, rule of law, and all that silly stuff.
They make sure the trains are on time, right? What more do you need? Haven't we always been ok with our masters, as long as the trains run on time? The democrats are good railroad managers!
File a public comment on media consolidation
on this page at the FCC
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload/
Tell them consolidating the media leads to despotism.
click on
Media Ownership Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking - Docket 06-121
here is my comment....
No more consolidation of the media! Consolidating sources of information leads to despotism. Didn't you people take civics in elementary school? If you do this, then the further decay of Democracy is assured and on your shoulders.
so, what happened to progressive radio?
seems to me that it was about a year to 18 months ago that progressive radio was being called the hot new thang. it was about then that clear channel started replacing it with sports radio or worse (in cincinnati) self help radio.
if cable tv can waste the bandwidth to have some sister of the holy elephant order hawking rosaries twenty four hours a day you would think xm could carry aar in its entirety, especially since we pay for the privilege.
i have sirius in the car thanks to some insidious arrangement between ford and sirius but other than listening to bill press or alex bennett, its tuned to the grateful dead 24 7 channel.
while you can't prove it, personally i think the corporatists made a decision to kill progressive radio since it didn't suit their neocon masters.
dan, it's possible
i'm not sure it was a decision made at the corporate level. i think it was a decision based on what was happening at the local level. stations brave enough to try the format just didn't put the effort into SELLING the ads - or perhaps some of them tried but just couldn't find the local businesses who would buy time on liberal radio. even here in supposedly ultra liberal Chapel Hill, some businesses are wary of advertising on the progressive shows for fear of a backlash from the very vocal conservative jerk minority. threats of boycotts (and worse) from the bullying rightwing seem very effective.
Annapolis Meeting
Why Israel Has No "Right to Exist" as a Jewish State
By OREN BEN-DOR
Yet again, the Annapolis meeting between Olmert and Abbas is preconditioned upon the recognition by the Palestinian side of the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state. Indeed the "road map" should lead to, and legitimate, once and for all, the right of such a Jewish state to exist in definitive borders and in peace with its neighbours. The vision of justice, both past and future, simply has to be that of two states, one Palestinian, one Jewish, which would coexist side by side in peace and stability. Finding a formula for a reasonably just partition and separation is still the essence of what is considered to be moderate, pragmatic and fair ethos.
Thus, the really deep issues--the "core"--are conceived as the status of Jerusalem, the fate and future of the Israeli settlements in the Occupied Territories and the viability of the future Palestinian state beside the Jewish one. The fate of the descendants of those 750000 Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed in 1948 from what is now, and would continue to be under a two-state solutions, the State of Israel, constitutes a "problem" but never an "issue" because, God forbid, to make it an issue on the table would be to threaten the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. The existence of Israel as a Jewish state must never become a core issue. That premise unites political opinion in the Jewish state, left and right and also persists as a pragmatic view of many Palestinians who would prefer some improvement to no improvement at all.Only "extremists" such as Hamas, anti-Semites, and Self-Hating Jews--terribly disturbed, misguided and detached lot--can make Israel's existence into a core problem and in turn into a necessary issue to be debated and addressed.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
Did it,Fernando..Thanks !
File a public comment on media consolidation
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Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 4:51pm.
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
Brett
I never placed it that you were in Evangeline. I have a few friends down there from the music world, all pretty progressive, shining lights. I come down every so often and have a great time. One time driving from NOLa, I stopped for gumbo four times before lunch. I don't remember but I hope your not a vegetarian.
I am sorry to hear that Eun... station dropped off. There are a few decent non-commercials down there though.
SJ
Thanks for posting the News Max and the Dick Morris. We just don't get enough toe sucking lying around these parts.
Thanks for the balance.
i feel like
File a public comment on media consolidation
Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 4:51pm.
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writing and saying something like
"oh yeah ? you wanna consolidate yeah? g'a head i dare ya!
ya bastards! do it and your ass will be grass!"
i wish i could trash talk those mofo's but i wouldn't dare
i would be very civilized and prawwwwpah (proper)..
sometimes it sucks being me
david sirota
got an interesting email in which it's david sirota saying he's not backing a candidate and then seemingly backing a candidate and of course it's none other than John Edwards which I'm really glad about I really like Edwards alot.
(although he does go out of his way to say he's not backing a candidate,so maybe he really isn't backing edwards)
of course Kucinich is really good too,but I don't like that he's a pacifist uhoh i hope i din't just alienate sammy bloggers but I'm no pacifist ie., the war in Afghanistan was justified but NOT Iraq
http://action.credomobile.com/sirota/2007/11/corporate_interests_have_li...
or here's a shorter link
http://tinyurl.com/32ro85
zeek
I'm in Acadia parish, just west of Lafayette. There are still locally owned stations here and I hold out hope that AAR or better yet Nova-M, can land an affiliate in the Greater Lafayette market (448,000) again soon. It was great when Louisiana had 3 AAR stations at a time many states had none. Now I think we are back to none.
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Sometimes I wanna SLAP DA SHIT outta Randi
Randi is interesting and funny, but her hyperbole can be painful sometimes. One of the things I hate most about her is the propensity for uttering blanket statements about America and how we ALL fell for this or that...
BULL
FUCKING
SHIT!!!
I live in the SF Bay area. WE did NOT support Reagan. We did NOT support Bush Senior OR this current cretinous giggling killer. We did NOT put republicans in the congress. We did NOT support the rape, pillage, and mass murder across South America during the 1980's.
And no, Randi was NEVER the only liberal in talk radio. Bernie Ward and Ray Taliaferro on KGO radio, the local ABC radio affiliate, have been on the air as long as she. In fact, Ray's been on about 20 years LONGER.
At some point, hyperbole becomes just another a DAMNED LIE.
Olbermann: Is there a third 'Blackwater brother' nicknamed
Olbermann: Is there a third 'Blackwater brother' nicknamed Corruptee?
Mike Aivaz and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday November 20, 2007
Keith Olbermann took up the matter of Howard Krongard and his lawyer's astonishing statement on Monday, asking John Dean, former Nixon White House counsel and author of Broken Government, "Of the many, many, many rationalizations for leaving broken government broken, is this the silliest combination ever?
"Obviously, one of the key purposes of any committee is to find out whether it's gotten truthful testimony," Dean replied. "Why he let his lawyer even send this deservedly puts him in your oddball file."
Con't-rawstory
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La.
I'm in Acadia parish, just west of Lafayette. There are still locally owned stations here and I hold out hope that AAR or better yet Nova-M, can land an affiliate in the Greater Lafayette market (448,000) again soon. It was great when Louisiana had 3 AAR stations at a time many states had none. Now I think we are back to none.
I believe Baton Rouge still has an AAAR affiliate. I could be wrong, though.
Talk Radio 1389 Baton Rouge
http://www.talkradio1380.com/main.html
Thanks Blast
You should know that many in Lafayette and New Orleans consider Baton Rouge to be part of Redneck Mississippi. HeeHee ;-p
But good for them still having an AAR station.
1380 Program Lineup
Baton Rouge Talk
Monday – Friday Lineup:
5a – 8a The Young Turks(Air America)
8a – 11a Jerry Springer (Air America)
11a – 2p Al Franken (Air America)
2p – 5p Ed Schultz (Jones Media)
5p – signoff Rachel Maddow (Air America)
La Acronymns
You should know that many in Lafayette and New Orleans consider Baton Rouge to be part of Redneck Mississippi. HeeHee ;-p
No. I didn't know that. I know a few filmmakers in BR, although one now lives in NOLA. They were associated with LSU.
Turnkey Turnips
Stuff To Read
Monday – Friday Lineup:
* 5a – 8a The Young Turks(Air America)
* 8a – 11a Jerry Springer (Air America)
* 11a – 2p Al Franken (Air America)
* 2p – 5p Ed Schultz (Jones Media)
* 5p – signoff Rachel Maddow (Air America)
Saturday
* 6a – 8a Best of Young Turks (AA)
* 8a – 11a Satellite Sisters (ABC)
* 11a – 12N Best of Al Franken
* 12 – 2p Mother Jones Radio (AA)
* 2p – 5p Ring of Fire (AA)
* 5p – signoff Air America
Sunday
* 6a – 9a Best of Young Turks
* 9a – 12n Best of Tom Heartmann (AA)
* 12n – 3p Best of Randi Rhodes
* 3p – signoff Air America
Good to see Springer & Franken still on somewhere!
:-D
I know
Initials, not acronymns.
(No subject)
ooops
:0
Self help
I was trying to find a song by Little Eva called 'Let's Turkey Trot' on my own using Alice's tips but I am still a rank amateur. Was her instructional more or less four different search functions?
Brett, I love that little French station, I think in Mamou, that plays Cajun music. I used to love going to Richard's and Slim's Y-Ki-Ki but they tell me most of the Zydeco clubs are DJ now. Sad. Had some great crayfish and oysters in Abbeville many times.
sorry for the edit
I screwed up your set up.
a shout out to my bloggie buddies
I just got into my new apartment last week
so far no internet.
I'm hoping to go completely wireless w/ phone & ISP...if possible.
(why pay for a landline if I only need it to get DSL?)
So, I'm looking into Clearwire ( www.clearwire.com ) since it serves my area...
my questions being...do they have modems for the standard PC...or just pc cards?
also, will I be able to network their signal w/a router?
the job thing is going well...
also: I'm buying a brand new 1980 volvo sedan this weekend...
I'll be in touch, eventually...
see ya all down the road, love you all!
Thanks for your
honesty. I thought I missed the Jerry reference. Down the memory hole.
zeek, Blast ...
I'll try to find that music tonight, right now I gotta go, Kelly needs the computer
BBL
Cool Chubbs !
Good luck !
Make sure you get a Strong Wireless router..My TimeWarner one sucks!
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Little Eva Link
Go here: http://www.littlestevensundergroundgarage.com/playlists/playlistsmain.ht...
Set 1
I don't know if this will work. But...
Another Product From Acme Statesman Supply Company
Thompson "fresh" out of ideas...
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 11/19/2007 - 9:42pm.
Am podcasting Sunday's show right now, and am howling at Fred Thompson's interaction w/ Stephanapoulis. If I understood him correctly, Fred Thompson's position is that we must defeat Islamic fundamentalism via military force... because he doesn't have any other ideas.
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I watched Fred Thompson interviewed by George Stephanopoulos and came to the same conclusion as you did.
If Thompson was deer hunting, he'd be the nutbag taking the sound shots.
"Shhh. Don't wussle the weaves. Fwed has a gun."
I wonder if Sammy knows that the AAR stream is all screwed up?
On the AAR website..
And,has been for hours..
Not his responsibility most likely..
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There's no such thing as a dumb question MMRules...
...unless it's asked by a rightwingnut-talkinghead type. RadioNation was whacked from 3 to 1 hour, from live to taped and now is basically a showcase for the current week's issue of The Nation. It's good but too short to really cut to the bone. Laura does a fine job but she really shines when she's taking a calls and hammering guests with questions for more than one short segment.
As for XM and Sirius, Sirius is sending emails to shareholders to vote on the merger. Personally, I want it to happen. I signed on Sirius when AAR started and stuck with it. I don't use Sirius Left a lot but do catch Thom when I can and more often Malloy weekday nights.
It's sad the way Progressive Radio is so fragmented, but it's still there and it's meeting most of our information needs, isn't it? I've just had to learn where to go to get what I need..
Evening all
Just got back from the Cardiologist. Okay but need a stronger dose on one of my meds.
While I was there I was thinking about our dollar devaluing. I don't think it has occured to anyone, yet, that the seniors that buy drugs from Canada, because they are cheaper, may not be able to buy as inexpensively anymore.
This will hurt these seniors that have hit the donut hole in their medicare part D. Did you know that when you hit the donut hole you are still paying approx. $30 a month for the Part D insurance? So that money plus the deductable of approx $250 is kept by the insurance company. So you are paying for insurance to cover drugs but you are paying the full cost of the drugs until you spend $1500 dollars worth of drugs and then you can get the discount again. Nice ponzi scheme for the insurance companies eh!
Thanksgiving Day Quiz
Test your knowledge, geniuses. :-)
http://home.aristotle.net/Thanksgiving/trivia.asp
Dumb Questions R Us
There's no such thing as a dumb question MMRules...
Submitted by maggiesboy on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 6:32pm.
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Bait: "How did Chubby find a new 1980 Volvo sedan?"
DeLay: ‘I’d like to
DeLay: ‘I’d like to bitch-slap’ Paul Krugman. At a recent book party for former U.N. ambassador John Bolton, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) told the Washington Examiner that conservatives in Congress need “some backbone.” As an example of what he means by “backbone,” DeLay described what he would like to do to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman: “I’d like to bitch-slap him.”
http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Yeas_and_Nays/2007/11/20/DeLay-Knocks-GOP-...
Time rejected Rove as a
Time rejected Rove as a columnist. Radar reports that, prior to securing a spot as a Newsweek columnist, Karl Rove approached Time magazine for a job. Time, however, rejected Rove as “essentially like an unindicted coconspirator in a whole host of felonies”:
Time’s editors apparently felt the cost/benefit analysis wouldn’t be in their favor if they embraced the man who has done more than anyone to keep the spirit of Joe McCarthy alive and well in American politics. … “They think Karl is essentially like an unindicted coconspirator in a whole string of felonies.”
http://radaronline.com/features/2007/11/media_matters_karl_rove_hillary_...
Military demanding bonus pay
Military demanding bonus pay back from wounded vets. “The U.S. Military is demanding that thousands of wounded service personnel give back signing bonuses because they are unable to serve out their commitments.” Jordan Fox of Pittsburgh was injured by a roadside bomb in Iraq, cutting his service short by three months. “A few days ago, he received a letter from the military demanding nearly $3,000 of his signing bonus back.” Watch CBS affiliate KDKA’s report on Fox’s situation:
Last month, Rep. Jason Altmire (D-PA) proposed legislation that would guarantee that wounded vets receive their full signing bonuses. Steve Benen has more.
http://kdka.com/local/military.signing.bonuses.2.571660.html
Glass Half Full...Of Hemlock
toniD,
I had a thought the other day while reading your comments regarding Vioxx but I forgot to post it.
The bad news: Heart problems.
The good news: Your arthritic hand won't hurt when you sign in to the cardiac ward.
Bush Administration Stokes
Bush Administration Stokes Fear Of Massive Army Layoffs To Force Congress To Drop Redeployment »
The Bush administration is threatening that it will issue furlough notices to up to 150,000 civilian workers at military bases in mid-December if Congress does not approve unrestricted Iraq funding immediately. As part of this campaign, the Pentagon is distributing a document warning that the Army may cease to function if it does not receive the funds now. (View the document here.)
At a press conference this morning, Reps. John Murtha (D-PA) and David Obey (D-WI) rebutted the administration’s scare-mongering by noting that, just last week, Bush signed a $471 billion defense spending bill. That bill “contains enough money to continue military operations through mid-February, because of a provision that lets the administration shift money to the war from other Pentagon accounts.”
Murtha ripped the Pentagon’s “Rumsfeld-like” tactics aimed at “scaring the families of the troops” just ahead of the Christmas season:
I thought we’d gotten rid of Secretary Rumsfeld, but this really worries me that there would be such a political document. … This is a political document. They’re scaring people. They’re scaring the families of the troops with this document. That’s the thing that’s so despicable about what they’re doing.
Watch some highlights:
In this morning’s White House gaggle, spokeswoman Dana Perino admitted they’re making civilian employees fear for their jobs as a way to “remind Congress” to pass a bill, despite the fact the funding has passed the house and is being blocked by Republicans in the Senate:
QUESTION: Are you saying that these furloughs would begin before they come back from this vacation?
PERINO: The notices. I’m not sure of the date. I know that they have to notice because under the rules you have to give people, I think it is 60 to 90 days worth of notice that they could be furloughed. So that could happen.
QUESTION: So this is a way to remind Congress that you want them to pass this bill?
PERINO: That’s exactly what that was.
QUESTION: So you’re making them suffer –
PERINO: I’m making the Democrats suffer?
QUESTION: No, you’re making the civilians who work for the Defense –
PERINO: Oh, no, it is not us who are making any civilians suffer.
QUESTION: There ought to be –
PERINO: We are calling on Congress to –
QUESTION: How many billions have we spent already for the Defense Department?
PERINO: The Defense Department says that they need this funding in order to keep the war running, as well as to keep these civilians…
QUESTION: Maybe they don’t want the war to keep running.
At this morning’s press conference, Murtha underscored the point: “There’s a difference between supporting our military and their families, and supporting the war in Iraq. This administration supports this war. This Congress supports our troops and their families, as we’ve proved over and over and over again.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/20/murtha-dod-furloughs/
UPDATE: HuffPolitics has more.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/20/days-before-thanksgiving_n_7350...
That's about it Crank!
Replacing one problem with another.
Radio Nation website ?
There's no such thing as a dumb question MMRules...
new
Submitted by maggiesboy on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 6:32pm
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Sorry,I should have been more precise.
What's happening to radio nation website..
Looks like it's under construction or,something..
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The Clintons' main man,
The Clintons' main man, James Carville, will be on Meet the Press this Sunday--but, alas, there was no space for any Obama or Edwards backers.
--David Kurtz
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/11/hillarybacker_c.php
Poll: McConnell's Approval
Poll: McConnell's Approval Ratings Bad — More People Disapprove
By Eric Kleefeld - November 20, 2007, 5:08PM
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) might be in some serious trouble in 2008 — a new SurveyUSA poll gives him a negative net approval rating for the first time, with only 44% approving and 47% disapproving. While it's technically a statistical dead heat, it's hardly a nice place to be for a four-term incumbent and party leader.
McConnell has had the unenviable job of leading the fight in the Senate for President Bush's Iraq policies, and it appears to be catching up with him. Democrats so far don't have a candidate to face McConnell next year, but some are working to recruit state Auditor Crit Luallen, who was easily re-elected to her current post earlier this month. Outgoing state Attorney General Greg Stumbo is also exploring the race, but has yet to officially declare.
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/poll_mcconnells_approval_ratings_b...
Ha ! Crank as usual,your killing me !
Dumb Questions R Us
Submitted by Crank Bait on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 6:44pm.
There's no such thing as a dumb question MMRules...
Submitted by maggiesboy on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 6:32pm.
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Bait: "How did Chubby find a new 1980 Volvo sedan?"
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:)
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When Irish Eyes Are Smilin'
The Scots most likely learned about distilling from the Irish (though they are loath to admit it). The Irish in turn learned about it, according to the Irish at least, from missionary monks who arrived in Ireland in the seventh century. The actual details are a bit sketchy for the next 700 years or so, but it does seem reasonable to believe that monks in the various monasteries were distilling aqua vitae ("water of life"), primarily for making medical compounds. These first distillates were probably grape or fruit brandy rather than grain spirit. Barley-based whiskey (the word derives from uisce beatha the Gaelic interpretation of aqua vitae) first appears in the historical record in the mid-1500s when the Tudor kings began to consolidate English control in Ireland. Queen Elizabeth I was said to be fond of it and had casks shipped to London on a regular basis.
The imposition of an excise tax in 1661 had the same effect as it did in Scotland, with the immediate commencement of the production of poteen (the Irish version of moonshine). This did not, however, slow down the growth of the distilling industry, and by the end of the 18th century there were over 2,000 stills in operation around the country.
Under British rule Ireland was export oriented and, along with grains and assorted foodstuffs, Irish distillers produced large quantities of pot-distilled whiskey for export into the expanding British Empire. Irish whiskey outsold Scotch whisky in most markets because it was lighter in body. It is said that in the late 19th century over 400 brands of Irish whiskey were being exported and sold in the United States.
This happy state of affairs for Irish distillers lasted into the early 20th century when the market began to change. The Irish distillers, pot still users to a man, were slow to respond to the rise of blended Scotch whisky with its column-distilled, smooth grain whisky component. When National Prohibition in the United States closed off Irish whiskys largest export market, many of the smaller distilleries closed. The remaining distilleries then failed to adequately anticipate the coming of Repeal (unlike the Scotch distillers) and were caught short without adequate stocks when it came. The Great Depression, trade embargoes between the newly independent Irish Republic and the United Kingdom, and World War II caused further havoc among the distillers.
In 1966 the three remaining distilling companies in the Republic of Ireland—Powers, Jameson, and Cork Distilleries—merged into a single company, Irish Distillers Company (IDC). In 1972, Bushmills, the last distillery in Northern Ireland, joined IDC. In 1975 IDC opened a new mammoth distillery at Midleton, near Cork, and all of the other distilleries in the Republic were closed down with the production of their brands being transferred to Midleton. For a 14-year period the Midleton plant and Bushmills in Northern Ireland were the only distilleries in the country.
This sad state of affairs ended in 1989 when a potato-peel ethanol plant in Dundalk was converted into a whiskey distillery. The new Cooley Distillery began to produce malt and grain whiskeys, with the first three-year-old bottlings being released in 1992.
Irish whiskeys, both blended and malt, are usually triple distilled through both column and pot stills, although there are a few exclusively pot-distilled brands. Irish Pure Pot Still Whiskey is generally labeled as such. Otherwise, Irish whiskeys are a mix of pot and column-distilled whiskeys. Irish Malt Whiskey is likewise so designated. Standard Irish Whiskey is a blend of malt and grain whiskies.
Cafferty's viewers warn of
Cafferty's viewers warn of 'the slippery slope to a police state'
Mike Aivaz and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday November 20, 2007
Boston police are trying to get guns off the streets by asking parents in high-crime areas to let detectives come into their homes without a warrant and search their children's bedrooms.
There has been considerable controversy over the program. For example, former Boston police lieutenant Thomas Nolan, who now teaches criminology at Boston University, complained that "I just have a queasy feeling anytime the police try to do an end run around the Constitution. ... The police have restrictions on their authority and ability to conduct searches. The Constitution was written with a very specific intent, and that was to keep the law out of private homes unless there is a written document signed by a judge and based on probable cause. Here, you don't have that."
Jack Cafferty discussed the controversy on his CNN show Monday, highlighting the objections by civil liberties advocates that parents "may be too intimidated to say no to the police or may not understand the consequences if they say yes."
Cafferty also noted that Boston police say a similar program in St. Louis was highly successful, finding guns in half the homes that were searched, and have promised that they would never abuse the program to gain access to the homes of people under suspicion or make arrests for small amounts of marijuana.
However, the St. Louis program was effective only during a brief period in 1994-95, when youth violence was at a peak and community support high. It later switched over to a focus on traditional warrants and arrests and was ultimately discontinued.
Cafferty then asked his viewers to respond to the question, "Should Boston police be able to enter private homes without a warrant to search for guns?" He read excerpts from the responses during a follow-up segment.
Although one viewer suggested that "concerned parents would welcome this," the general reaction appeared to be strongly negative, to the point where Cafferty suggested it might be because the question had not contained the phrase "with permission." He apologized repeatedly for that omission, both before and after reading from viewers' comments.
One viewer wrote in warning about "the slippery slope to a police state." Another insisted "absolutely no entry without a warrant ... no fishing expeditions." Yet another wanted to know, "Since when did Boston secede from the U.S. and the constitutional safeguards against illegal searches?"
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Cafferty_File_Are_warrantless_searches_goo...
Chavez says
Bush belongs in asylum for WW3 comment
...
"Bush spoke of the possibility of this Third World War and the use of the atom bomb," Chavez told a news conference in Paris, where he met his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy.
"A Third World War? With an atom bomb? He said it, with an atom bomb. There would be no more world. The world would end. Humanity would no longer exist," he said, speaking through an interpreter who translated his comments into French.
"I think he has to be put in an asylum. He has to be put in an asylum," said Chavez, an ally of Tehran, adding that Iran was not building nuclear weapons, echoing Iran's own denials.
On October 17 Bush told a news conference "We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel."
"So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War 111, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."
...
*click*
The U.S. Supreme Court said on Tuesday it would decide whether handguns can be banned in Washington, D.C., a case that could produce a decisive ruling on whether individual Americans have a right to keep firearms
And...for your Thanksgiving...
a drink from the Dragon bar.....
1 part poteen
1 part Cointreau
1 part irish cream
pinch of mint sprigs
Shake well with plenty of ice, strain into a martini glass and serve ferociously cold in generous quantities, garnished with a sprig of mint.
by Cindy Sheehan
A Blueprint for Impeachment: The Constitution Still in Crisis
...
The Democratic leadership has made a mockery of our Constitution by excising “awkward” parts out of it. For example, by invoking “Title X” (Contempt of Congress) which is a harsher punishment against protesters that leads to harsher penalties, such as being banished from Capital Hill for a determined amount of time, they have killed the pesky First Amendment Rights to free speech and peaceable assembly.
By confirming Michael Mukasey for Attorney General and approving the Military Commissions Act, Congress has stripped away our Eighth Amendment protections against cruel and unusual punishment. By suspending habeas corpus we are denied our Sixth Amendment rights to fair and speedy trials and to confront our accusers with an attorney present. Congress has also abrogated its Constitutionally mandated role of declaring war to a bloodthirsty Executive Branch and have invalidated Article II; Section 4 which states that a President and Vice-President “shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
The Dems were swept back into power off of the backs and energy of the anti-war left and they have betrayed us by surgically removing important parts of the Constitution. Cardinal Mahoney of the Los Angeles Diocese calls such picking and choosing of what to believe or disbelieve in the Church as “Cafeteria Catholicism,” I call disregarding parts the Constitution: “Treason,” and the only way that Congress can redeem itself from infamy is to follow the road map that has been laid out for us centuries ago and declare the phony “War on Terror” over and restore our country to sanity by impeaching the people who have led us down this highway to hell.
We must not let Congress off the hook by allowing them to let BushCo off the hook.
...
Arlo Guthrie's
Thanksgiving
Report: Ashcroft firm in big
Report: Ashcroft firm in big money deal
Report: Ashcroft Law Firm to Collect Over $52M to Help Monitor Knee Replacement Manufacturers
TOM HESTER Jr.
AP News
Nov 20, 2007 15:28 EST
Former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft's law firm could earn $52.2 million helping the U.S. attorney's office in New Jersey monitor a leading maker of knee and hip replacements, according to recent public filings.
Ashcroft's firm is among five legal teams U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie hand-picked to watch the manufacturers, who agreed in September to pay $311 million and hire monitors to settle allegations they paid surgeons to use and promote their devices.
Christie, who took office in January 2002 and worked under Ashcroft until Ashcroft stepped down in 2005, denied any conflict Tuesday.
"If he were still my boss or potentially my boss in the future, I guess that would be something to talk about, but you know I just don't see it as an issue," Christie said. "I hired him because I know he's somebody of honesty and integrity and who has the experience to be able to do a job like this."
The arrangement, disclosed in Oct. 31 filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, was first reported Tuesday by The Star-Ledger of Newark.
The deal calls for Zimmer Holdings of Indiana to pay Washington-based Ashcroft Group Consulting Services an average monthly fee between $1.5 million and $2.9 million. That includes a flat payment of $750,000 to the firm's "senior leadership group," individual legal and consulting services at up to $895 an hour and as much as $250,000 in monthly expenses.
Ashcroft's firm could make the full $52.2 million, but it will earn less if Zimmer complies with the agreement, Christie said.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Report_Ashcroft_firm_in_big_money_d...
IRAQ: Extremists fuel anti-women violence in Basra
BAGHDAD, 20 November 2007 (IRIN) - Anti-women violence in Basra, Iraq's second largest city, about 600 km south of the capital, Baghdad, has increased markedly in recent months and has forced women to stay indoors, police and local NGOs have said.
"Basra is facing a new type of terror which leaves at least 10 women killed monthly, some of them are later found in garbage dumps with bullet holes while others are found decapitated or mutilated," the city's police chief Maj. Gen. Abdel Jalil Khalaf told IRIN in a telephone interview.
"The perpetrators are organised gangs who work under religious cover pretending to spread instructions of Islam but they are far from this religion. They are trying to impose a life style like banning women from wearing western clothes or forcing them to wear head scarf," Khalaf said.
In September, Khalaf added, police found the body of a decapitated woman with that of her also decapitated six-year-old son lying beside her.
"We do believe that the number of murdered women is much higher as more cases go unreported by their families who fear reprisals from extremists," he added.
Extremism culture
Speaking only on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals, a woman activist with a local NGO in Basra said that a deteriorated security situation has made the province a hotbed for the extremists.
http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?ReportId=75396
California suing Nebraska
California suing Nebraska voting machine maker for $15 million
John Wildermuth, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 20, 2007
California Secretary of State Debra Bowen sued a Nebraska voting machine company on Monday, seeking fines and reimbursements of nearly $15 million from the firm for allegedly selling nearly 1,000 uncertified machines to San Francisco and four other counties.
San Francisco's 558 AutoMARK ballot-marking devices were among 972 of the machines that Election Systems & Software sold in California last year without putting them through the state testing process.
The uncertified voting machines also were sold to Solano, Marin, Merced and Colusa counties. Bowen learned of the possible violation last July and ordered an investigation.
"ES&S ignored the law over and over and over again, and it got caught," Bowen said in a statement after filing suit against the company. "I am not going to stand on the sidelines and watch a voting system vendor come into the state, ignore the laws and make millions of dollars from California's taxpayers in the process."
Bowen's decision could be a windfall for the affected counties. In the suit, the secretary of state is seeking a $10,000 penalty for each of the uncertified machines sold in the state, with half that fine intended to go to the counties that bought them.
ES&S also would have to reimburse the counties for the full cost of the machines, but the counties would be able to keep the AutoMARKs, which are now slated to receive full state certification in early December.
The reimbursement rule was added to the state election code in 2004 in an effort to boost the penalties against companies that ignore the state's certification rules, Bowen said.
"I was surprised to see this happen," Bowen said in a telephone conference call Monday afternoon. "I hope this will be the last time I have to use (the new penalties)."
If the state gets what it asks for in the suit, San Francisco would receive $2.79 million from the penalties and $3.8 million in reimbursement for the machines it bought, said John Arntz, the city's election chief.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/20/BA5QTFFQF.DT...
Without Freedom of Speech, I Might Be in the Swamp:
A few weeks old but,a good article..Thanks Alice for link. ")
Attacks on Free Speech in Kennebunkport, Maine
by Ron Jacobs
Kennebunkport is a vacation home of the Bushes and the place where many of America’s wealthy like to “recreate as they wish,” as George HW Bush’s said in 1990 as he prepared to send the US military into Iraq. It is now also a battleground over free speech.
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Con't
I heard something jerkin'
there stood Rita lookin' just like Tony Perkins
My mother walked by my room once and heard 'he stuck a gun into my guts' and I never heard the end of it.
Chris Mathews going after this McClellan story
I knew this am, when I read that, that this would be a bombshell story.
I had a feeling McClellan would eventually tell the truth!
Wonder what Tony Snow's Excuse was ?
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And yet the Dems refuse
to impeach!
This has got to be an alternate world we are living in!
The Best Congress Money Can Buy !!
And yet the Dems refuse
new
Submitted by toniD on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 7:57pm.
to impeach!
This has got to be an alternate world we are living in!
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The lady journalist from the
Housten Chronicle just said that she thinks Scott McClellan felt used and abused by the Bush admin. He was lied to and had to cover up for these people.
♫ ♥ ♫ Let's Turkey Trot ♫ ♥ ♫
Little Eva - Let's Turkey Trot.mp3
Keith's on now
Lets see what he has to report.
I think the proverbial shit
hit the fan today for Bushco.
Lets hope this has legs.
And...for your Thanksgiving...
a drink from the Bait bar...
1 part Cruzan Estate Diamond rum or Mount Gay Eclipse rum
1 part unguarded reveler
Open rum bottle(s), quaff with abandon.
http://cruzanrum.com/
http://www.mountgay.com/
(Warning: The Cruzan rum site is almost entirely Third World buffered video.)
Turn on Keith Olbermann
if you aren't already watching!!
Valerrie and Joe are smiling tonight
This is just what they need!
I've got KeithO on,Toni..
Impeaches !!
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Sorry For The Confusion
Uh, not Third World as in the reggae band. Third World as in funky technology.
Ailing dollar falls to
Ailing dollar falls to historic low against euro
Published: Tuesday November 20, 2007
The ailing US dollar tumbled to a historic low against the euro Tuesday as concerns mounted about US economic growth after the Federal Reserve trimmed back its growth projections, traders said.
Fears of slower economic growth, largely driven by a lingering housing slump and a related credit squeeze, have weighed heavily on the dollar in recent weeks.
Fears that overseas investors and countries, especially China which holds over a trillion dollars in foreign exchange reserves, could sell or convert their dollar holdings have also depressed the dollar.
The euro, which has rocketed in value against the dollar this year, soared as high as 1.4853 dollar. It was at 1.4836 dollars at 2200 GMT, compared with 1.4665 dollars late Monday.
The euro hits its highest level against the dollar since the single currency's creation in 1999.
"When concerns over the economy grow, you turn to stable currencies -- for example the dollar, but ultimately the dollar is going down so now you would buy the euro," said Neil Mellor, a currency strategist at Bank of New York.
Falling interest rates have also depressed the dollar, the Fed cut borrowing costs in September and October in a bid to underpin economic momentum, as investors generally prefer to invest in countries where rates are rising or higher.
The central bank slashed its outlook for 2008 US economic growth Tuesday, citing weakness in housing and tighter credit conditions, and suggested policymakers are unsure about future interest rate cuts.
The central bank projected growth next year in a range of 1.8 to 2.5 percent down from a prior forecast of 2.5 to 2.75 percent.
"The US dollar posted its largest single-day loss in over a year, as speculation for future US Federal Reserve interest rate cut doomed the greenback to further drops," said David Rodriguez, a currency analyst at Forex Capital Markets.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Ailing_dollar_falls_to_historic_low_1120200...
Uh, not Third World as in the reggae band. Third World as in
funky technology.
A perfect description of the St. Thomas, Vi. telephone company.
Brett
Well played! Little Eva, Carole King's babysitter.
Just stunning
I can't believe America doesn't care about this.
KO is just reciting simple news. Nobody puts this out. Very few bother listening or paying attention EVEN NOW.
Just coz I like this graphic!
true t
he is the cancer of America.
Those Were The Days
Submitted by Peter Dragon on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 8:14pm.
funky technology.
A perfect description of the St. Thomas, Vi. telephone company.
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Vitelco! The owner/CEO, Jeffrey Prosser, had a 900 number scam located down island. I should Google him. He may be in a slammer by now.
I lived on St. Croix. When Vitelco did some fiber optic work, my telephone rang as someone else's. A different someone else got my calls. It continued like that for weeks.
Paradise comes with a disclaimer.
firedoglake
Shorter McClellan: I Was A Paid Liar For Bush.
By Christy Hardin Smith on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 09:50 am
Former WH flack Scott McClellan has a new book coming out wherein he reveals that people in the Bush Administration had him fronting out lies to the public about the WH leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s CIA ties. Color me shocked. From E&P:
..”The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.
“There was one problem. It was not true.
“I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President’s chief of staff, and the president himself.”
Do tell, Scott. How, exectly, were “Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President’s chief of staff, and the president himself” involved in your lying to the public? I’d like all the details, please. Including when you learned that these were lies and what you did to correct the public misperceptions, if anything, what sorts of discussions were had about this in the WH, and whether you questioned the information when it was first given to you — or just obligingly parroted as you were told unless and until you were confronted with the fact that you were telling lies. And I’m certain I’m not alone in that sentiment. For your sake, I do hope you were fully forthcoming about this with the FBI. I’m just saying.
I think Kevin Drum summed this mini-kerfuffle up nicely:
Now, Lord knows I don’t want to question McClellan’s claim that his book was “written with no agenda other than to record his experiences and insights for the benefit of history.” But would it be presumptuous of me to suspect that his explanation of Plamegate is somehow going to make it out as nothing more than a silly mistake that the press blew all out of proportion?
Nothing like a little game of pass the buck between the smarm merchants of Bushworld, is there? Note the utter failure to take responsibility for lying to the public, the shunting of said responsibility onto others who have also failed to take responsibility for their respective actions, and the working of “the President’s chief of staff” into the mix of players. Anyone want to place a bet as to whether Andy Card gets set up as the go to fall guy? Emptywheel caught the same Card reference, and mentions the Wells’ card and notes that “just as a reminder, Card and Scottie left the White House within a week of each other–both happening just before Turdblossom’s final grand jury appearance.” (Anyone else’s spidey sense getting a little tingle? And while we’re asking questions, will Scottie own up to being one of the sources for the NYDailyNews story on Rove’s bush league handling of the whole mess? Enquiring minds and all.)
Perhaps, Scottie will spill all the assorted beans to get even for the Bush Administration treating his momma so shabbily in her TX gubernatorial bid. Not bloody likely…but stranger things have happened in gooberville.
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/20/shorter-mcclellan-i-was-a-paid-lia...
Oh Naaaaaancyyyyyyy......
Web Email for Nancy Pelosi
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/contact/contact.html
Because you need an 8th district zipcode:
http://sanfrancisco.about.com/od/neighborhoodprofiles/ig/sfmaps/SF-Distr...
Scott McClellan has stated that Bush, Cheney, Rove, et. al., clearly commited high treason during time of war. You know the drill, make Nancy's head hurt.
Paradise comes with a disclaimer.
I used to stay at the Gramboko Inn in Charlotte Amalie...back in
the mid 60's. One day I was walking around and I ran into about
25 or 30 guys....mostly standing around and laughing. A few of
them were passing around a funky looking joint. They
were "repairing" a telephone line.....a job one or two guys could
do in about 30 minutes.
Secrets And Little White
Secrets And Little White Lies
By Christy Hardin Smith on Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 07:24 am
There is a fantastic op-ed in the NYTimes this morning from two very well respected lawyers — one a former Attorney General, and the other with a similarly storied history of public service and currently working with the Brennan Center. The timing on it is even more fascinating. From the op-ed:
…When the Justice Department, usually acting through its Office of Legal Counsel, issues legal opinions binding on the executive branch, there is never justification for keeping them secret. Opinions that narrowly define what constitutes torture; or open the door to sending prisoners for questioning to Egypt and Syria, which regularly use torture; or rule the president has some “inherent power” to ignore laws are all of concern to Congress and the public whether one agrees or disagrees with the legal analysis.
Yet all these opinions have been kept secret, along with many other, related post-9/11 opinions that purport to decide what America’s law is.
Secrecy always increases the risk of foolish mistakes. If the withheld opinions are sound, why fear letting them see the light of day? Is there ever a justification in a government of law for keeping what one believes to be the law secret?
Some may say releasing the opinions will lead to more embarrassment. To this, there are two answers. First, what is most important is that we get it right and remain true to our country’s values. Second, the best way to restore our reputation is to confront our mistakes openly and then resolve not to repeat them.
David Luban, writing at Bakinization the other day, went further on this with regard to the ethical obligations of the OLC lawyers:
…But what if the client doesn’t want the law straight? There’s an old legal adage attributed to Elihu Root: “The client never wants to be told he can’t do what he wants to do; he wants to be told how to do it, and it is the lawyer’s business to tell him how.” Root was a corporate lawyer, and he was cynically expressing – a century ago – the scofflaw attitude of business people who resent lawyers who say “no.” But lawyers who say yes to whatever the client wants (”Dr. Yes” was reportedly John Ashcroft’s nickname for John Yoo) violate basic ethical norms of what legal advisors are supposed to do. As I’ve written elsewhere, lawyers who write opinions saying yes to whatever their clients want are no better than indulgence sellers.
As hired counsel, your job is certainly to try to find a way for your clients to achieve their objectives, but also to anticipate pitfalls before they occur and to find a way around them. If that is not possible, you tell your client straight out that the proposed action is contrary to the law and not recommended. To allow your client to act in an illegal or otherwise problematic way without a clear, unambiguous warning is contrary to your ethical and professional obligations as a lawyer.
And if that is what has been going on at the OLC throughout the Bush Administration, the public has a right to know about it. Because, after all, we are paying the salaries of these lawyers with our tax dollars. I suspect, with the timing of the op-ed on the day before the Federal Bar Council luncheon in NYC, that is a conversation that a whole lot of very powerful lawyers will be having around lunchtime tomorrow.
If any of our readers will be attending the luncheon, do let us know if the subject comes up. I’m sensing a nudge here from some very well respected lawyers…and I’d love to know what sort of fruit it bears.
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/20/secrets-and-little-white-lies/
Censure of Sen. Feinstein
Censure of Sen. Feinstein fails: Party staffer Bob Mullholland calls bloggers and activists “worse than Bush” and “pre-nursing home
By: John Amato @ 2:45 PM - PST
Guest Post by Julia Rosen. Julia is the Online Political Director for the Courage Campaign. She is also an editor at Calitics.
Let’s start with the good news first, even though there is plenty of bad to come later, given the disgraceful behavior of California Democratic Party staffer Bob Mullholland, caught on video. In just five days, over 33,000 Americans, 90% or more Californians, joined the Courage Campaign call for the California Democratic Party (CDP) to censure Senator Dianne Feinstein for her pivotal votes to approve Judge Michael Mukasey as U.S. Attorney General and Judge Leslie Southwick to the U.S. Court of Appeals. These Americans were joined by the Courage Campaign, MoveOn.org, Progressive Democrats of America, CrooksandLiars.com and over 40 Democratic Clubs and progressive organizations from across California. With a week of non-stop organizing, this movement changed the conversation of the entire meeting of the CDP Executive Board.
Party Chair Art Torres spent about half of his speech on Saturday praising Senator Dianne Feinstein, acknowledging that people within the Democratic Party are upset with a few of her crucial votes. Of course, these weren’t just any votes. They were votes contrary to core Democratic (and democratic) values like opposing torture, racism and homophobia. Despite the party chair’s call not to censure Sen. Feinstein, the censure resolution was endorsed by the Women’s Caucus, the Progressive Caucus and the Irish-American Caucus at the E-Board meeting. Unfortunately, it was never formally taken up or addressed by either the Resolutions Committee or the main body of the Executive Board. Members of the Resolutions Committee objected to hearing it, which meant it could not be brought to the Executive Board — which was within their prerogative, given that it was a late resolution.
(Read the rest of this story…)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/20/julia-draft/#more-23610
ICEKNIFE
I have bled my soul to that deaf mute elitist.
I would vote Cindy if I lived there. When she calls herself liberal... she's talking about liberating herself from the same dimensions as real liberals.
Oil jumps over $98 on talk
Oil jumps over $98 on talk of weak US economy
by Chris in Paris · 11/20/2007 05:30:00 PM ET
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The weak dollar policy of Bush and Paulson works its magic. The difference in euros is almost nothing, but a jump of $3.36/barrel will be noticed in the US. No matter how you chop up the numbers or what kind of inflation you want to call it, this is inflation. The US economy is in trouble and the world knows it.
Unless there is an American who isn't using oil the pressure on wallets will be felt. People such as Bush and Cheney don't give a damn if the price hits $150 per barrel because they will always be fine. It's just the rest of the population who is going to feel the pain.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from Bush and the Republican party. Thanks for the votes in 2000 and 2004.
http://www.americablog.com/2007/11/oil-jumps-over-98-on-talk-of-weak-us....
John Bolton: The Angriest Neocon
John Bolton: The Angriest Neocon
By ADAM ZAGORIN/UNITED NATIONS, NEW YORK
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice may have become accustomed to taking flak from Democratic (and even some G.O.P.) legislators when she testifies on Capitol Hill, but some of the most ferocious criticism she has recently faced comes from an unlikely source: John Bolton, the fiery conservative who served under Rice as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. In his new memoir, Surrender Is Not an Option: Defending America at the United Nations and Abroad, Bolton - known to be close to Vice President Dick Cheney - outlines some of the internal foreign policy battles in the Administration of George W. Bush, and paints President Bush himself as betraying his own gut instinct..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/johnboltontheangriestneocon;_ylt=AtOhJeUoxY...
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Deep Thought of the Day The
Deep Thought of the Day
The Democratic primary campaign is being portrayed as a contest between Democrats. The Republican primary campaign is being portrayed as a contest against Democrats.
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Vice President Winfrey?
Former aide Scott McClennan blames Bush for leak deceit
Former aide blames Bush for leak deceit
By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan blames President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for efforts to mislead the public about the role of White House aides in leaking the identity of a CIA operative.
In an excerpt from his forthcoming book, McClellan recounts the 2003 news conference in which he told reporters that aides Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby were "not involved" in the leak involving operative Valerie Plame.
"There was one problem. It was not true," McClellan writes, according to a brief excerpt released Tuesday. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest-ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president's chief of staff and the president himself."
Continued at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071120/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_mcclellan
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Halleluah Oprah!
Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 9:01pm.
"Vice President Winfrey?"
There is a growing Oprah religion which has in it:
They watch Oprah religiously.
They only do what Oprah tells them to do.
When they pray they face Harpo studios in Chicago.
They read Harpo.com, Oprah.com and O magazine.
If they can afford it they subscribe to Sirius satellite radio because there are two Oprah 24 hour radio channels on it.
Halleluah Oprah! ;)
You Does Be Gotta Know De System, Mon
Submitted by Peter Dragon on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 8:32pm.
...They were "repairing" a telephone line.....a job one or two guys could
do in about 30 minutes.
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Oh the stories I can tell. (For the record, scumbag Jeffrey Prosser is a white guy from the states.)
Electricity, as I'm sure you know, is pretty iffy in the V.I. One of the many frequent problems is transformer fuse failure. Late on a Friday afternoon, the transformer fuse supplying our shop failed. I thought we were fucked until my partner said, "Listen and learn."
He phoned WAPA and told them that he thought that an overburdened limb on the big mango tree caused the outage. A crew arrived within an hour. After they replaced the fuse, they stayed for another hour repeatedly sending the bucket man up for another load of mangos.
Malloy
Listen Now
Alt link .asx
Mac/Linux .m3u
RE: Sometimes I wanna SLAP DA SHIT outta Randi
Sometimes I wanna SLAP DA SHIT outta Randi
Submitted by ICEKNIFE on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 5:34pm.
Randi is interesting and funny, but her hyperbole can be painful sometimes. One of the things I hate most about her is the propensity for uttering blanket statements about America and how we ALL fell for this or that...
BULL
FUCKING
SHIT!!!
I live in the SF Bay area. WE did NOT support Reagan. We did NOT support Bush Senior OR this current cretinous giggling killer. We did NOT put republicans in the congress. We did NOT support the rape, pillage, and mass murder across South America during the 1980's.
And no, Randi was NEVER the only liberal in talk radio. Bernie Ward and Ray Taliaferro on KGO radio, the local ABC radio affiliate, have been on the air as long as she. In fact, Ray's been on about 20 years LONGER.
At some point, hyperbole becomes just another a DAMNED LIE.
How About Liberal Jacky Runice?
All throughout the 1980's when Ronald Reagan was
terrorizing central and north america,
"The Talkback Club" Hosted by Jacky Runice
would meet on Sunday night at Midnight on
WLS 890 AM - 50,000 watts from Chicago, heard in 38 states.
The Media painted R.R. as popular, "the great comunicator".
Yet the actual people who called in to the show
had quite the opposite view of the racists,union bustin'
tough talkin', macho dumb ass.
Jacky was great ,until she had her first child,
then she sort of drifted away from being a "bleeding
heart" to a more content person. I guess having children does that to people, so sad.
Rockettes update
preset for 1st dress and complete run through.
[dada still looking for E and M
Jamesbennett
Husbot !
cool : )
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Jamesbennett
Thanks Brett
that's like the third or fourth time this blog reminds me to listen.
no problem getting TV coverage eh ?
Can you imagine
Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 9:01pm.
Vice President Winfrey?
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Places please
I play cribbage on my computer while waiting for my que light.
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Anon's and Iceknife
One: The only reason to post anonymously is to flee from the responsibilities that come from being who you are. That's why the blogosphere is thriving. It allows people to develop a fantasy self.
Two: A tip of my hat to Iceknife! I don't check in here very often so it's nice to see you're still around. I still remember fondly bopping around Berkeley with you and Jenise and my wifely Alice. It was a nice day in the East Bay for sure. And I still have a full pack of that Black-Black gum from Jenise that I need to get started on... Buzzzzzzz! (Hello and Thank You Jenise!)
All good things,
Pierce
"We have freedom of expression,
but we don't have freedom after expression."
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Santa Brett. do you see it?
Hey Jbenet
Nice to see you on here as well. It sounds like you're busy with the stage work these days. I bet you're glad you're not Union in NY.
Gotta run... I'm working tonight.
All good things,
Pierce
"We have freedom of expression,
but we don't have freedom after expression."
How long till dubya is put out to pasture?
What da fuck is going on peoples?
How long till dubya is put out to pasture?
Ads for extremist right wingers on Seders blog
I really hate to see all those ads for da extremist right wingers on Seders blog. :(
the rehabilitation of king george
i've noticed something interesting in the cincinnati editorial pages the past few days and wonder if this is something going on across the country.
essentially, early this week, there was a guest columnist who wrote an essay that basically stated that george bush has been wrongfully villified and that in reality he is the best president this country has ever had and that history will prove that to be right.
now granted, anyone with a thimbulfull of grey matter knows that is a lie of biblical proportions, but the good part is, two days later, some other person writes in to the editorial page thankful for the guest columnist and says its wonderful to see such words in writing because, wait, yes, they too believe george bush is the best president ever.
so the standing question is: is this going on across the country indicating its just another neocon sham to fool some of the people all of the time?
dan, did you see the fluff piece...
...on fox lite, you know, abc news tonight. Charlie Gibson boot licking GWB and Laura at Camp David. Beautiful place, horrible people.
didn't see it
i don't watch network news anymore. it interferes with listening to rachel.
Upstairs Inventory Falls Short Of Expectations
Submitted by dan on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 9:35pm.
...yes, they too believe george bush is the best president ever...
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Sometimes when people get themselves born again, they don't re-arrive with all of the important parts.
with all of the important parts.
too bad that didn't include the ability to spawn.
it would be nice if it wasn't a generational problem.
new thread..
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so, is malloy's show a personal form of therapy?
i like to listen to him but can only take so much of the edge. its hard to believe you can maintain that type of edge and not self destruct.
Pierce!
Hey, how's it going?
Didn't know you blogged.
Remember, never eat more than two sticks of that stuff at once, unless you WANT heart palpitations!
BTW, did Shell ever show you the pics I took with my art camera? I know I e-mailed her a few.
OH! Before I forget... ICEKNIFE is spelled in all caps. It's like, a RULE or something.
You're not missing much Dan
I sometimes watch MSM when forced off the computer by co-habitant Kelly. It's disgusting corporate propaganda, but of course everyone here knows that. ABC is more dangerous than FOX News IMHO. Most mainstream people do realize that FOX is shilling for the GOP but think ABC still has credibility in their News department. Sad really.
every gets so nervous
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every gets so nervious(sic) me too
red - Christmas sparkle - in
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dan....
I like Malloy myself. I worry that he might have a heart attack right on the air - he gets so worked up.
I can feel his passion though. I think pretty much like he does (as far as this murderous administration goes)
jbenet..
are you a dancer or something?????
Hey Brett
how are you tonight??
Have you heard about little Scotty's new book???
He admits that Bush, Rove, Cheney, & Libby had everything to do with the outing of Valerie Plame.
No Shit Sherlock!!!!
ABC still has credibility
really? i would have said that when peter jennings was anchor. in fact when he passed on was when i stopped watching. i might be wrong but i think he was always honest in what he presented.
enough
Hi Sandy
yeah, I'm listening to Mike on KPHX
Maybe Scotty Mac will be the key to saving our nation from destruction.
Who'da thunk it!
Let's torture an elf on the new thread to celebrate.
: )
Blog link to give Party staffer Bob Mullholland some Grief !
http://blog.cadem.org/partyline/2007/11/a-veteran-remem.html#comments
Courtesy of Crooks and Liars..
Give him hell !!
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."
Submitted by smcgee43 on
Submitted by smcgee43 on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 10:01pm.
are you a dancer or something?????
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#1 Flyman -- Rockettes Christmas Spectacular -- preview tomorrow opens Friday PHX AZ
I pull the main curtain in/out among others. Obvious if I FU.
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Act 1 in the bag
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not so new new thread
not so new new thread
Mike
made me turn it off I just couldn't take it anymore.
That lasted about 3 minutes. I'm listening again and even more afraid for America.
Since I work in Northern California, it's only polite....
A msg I left for Bob Mulholland:
If you see a camera operator with a WPPG logo on the side of the camera, please don't stand in front of them. All our shooters are, like myself, veterans - and none of us are timid. Our operations techniques and practices include "bulling", the use of the camera itself to move people attempting to obstruct view. Please sir, for your own safety, just move. When the edge of the lens shade strikes the bridge of a human nose, the result is usually quite destructive and painful. We're not in the habit of hurting people, but when using that methodology it's impossible to tell where the person's face actually is. It would be most unfortunate if something of that naturte were to happen, but it can easily be avoided with a little common sense. Thanks!
Merry xmas
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jbenet
They play a pair of brothers in one of the new parts of the show.
I think the younger one, Michael (8 yrs old), gets to fly, but I'm not entirely sure. And Evan is about 15 yrs old.
Hey James, we're over here....
http://www.samsedershow.com/node/1790
Clever & Funny....
Merry xmas
Submitted by jbenet on Tue, 11/20/2007 - 10:35pm.
dada alice
thx dada that helps
Alice - stole that from a sculpture teacher -- Christmas t-shirts he made.
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later
think we're cut.
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Cut?
Does cut mean the show is over for the night? Or does cut mean the entire show is closed?