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again

What's up ?

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I have this same thread open in another window. It has zero comments and it refreshes with zero comments.

Does this mean I could be first, for the first time, in a parallel universe where no one exists but me?

This is a test to see if I am first to arrive nowhere.

how many cultures have had to feed under weaponized threats?

Yet everyone does it as if no one has a choice in the matter.

Put the guns down. It's that simple.

But,leave a trail of bread crumbs just in case..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

So much for my venture into the metaphysical.

I picked up some Honeycrisp's. It's a great apple.

I slice them, powder them with cinnamon, cayenne, & drizzle with walnut oil.

Many a mother has said, with a sigh, “If your friends jumped off a cliff, would you jump, too?”

The answer, for cockroaches at least, may well be yes. Researchers using robotic roaches were able to persuade real cockroaches to do things that their instincts told them were not the best idea.

More here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/science/16roach.html

I had a feeling you were sleeping on no anon thursday.

Looks like I'll have to find a different reason to go to New Orleans in December. Our boys lost 21-28 to the future state champs.

were gone when I returned. ;)
Good Evening All. Boo ;

First Lady Laura Bush urges a boycott on Burmese rubies.

boycott on Burmese rubies
Laura Bush urges Myanmar gem boycott

2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — US First Lady Laura Bush on Friday called for a global boycott of jewels from Myanmar, specifically urging companies to shun a gem show in Yangon and consumers around the world to look elsewhere.

"Every Burmese stone bought, cut, polished, and sold sustains an illegitimate, repressive regime," she said in a statement released by the White House. Washington refers to the country as "Burma."

Bush said that Myanmar's military rulers had just opened a potentially lucrative gem auction show in the country's main city Yangon, seeking much-needed foreign currency amid tightening Western sanctions.

"These funds prop up the regime, allowing it to continue to harass, arrest, and sentence peaceful activists who seek freedom of speech, worship, and assembly," the US first lady said.

"Those who support freedom and justice for the Burmese people should not help fill the regime's coffers at this gem show. I applaud the Jewelers of America and member companies such as Tiffany and Cartier for taking a stand against the importation of Burmese gems," she said.

"I urge others in the industry, both in the US and worldwide, to join in this important effort and refuse to have the trade in Burmese gems prop up the Burmese regime," she said.
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Snaps for First Lady Bush *snap* *snap* *snap*

Here is a wonderful example of the "let them eat cake" sacrifice the ruling class will make for humanity.

I'll just have to tough it out...

Hi Rules
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Submitted by Brett on Sat, 11/17/2007 - 12:56am
*******
Abit better..
I get the weird insommina that you stay up
for 2 days than sleep like crazy..Too strange.
My meds?Me?Who knows..Zombie's R Us.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I found a POSITIVE! Gem Boycott
Submitted by pbtrue1 on Sat, 11/17/2007 - 1:52am.
First Lady Laura Bush urges a boycott on Burmese rubies.
*******
I'll just have to get a Yacht instead !
What a inconvenience !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Teachers set fire to a building in Mexico..
Just heard it on the news..
I didn't hear what State of Mexico though..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Online users

* Star Vox
* Bill.Scher
* Brett
* netson
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Give old Bill's pretty face a nice clicking.

give me a shout out when you get here

xmas we have the lights in the park (City park xmas in the oaks) reveillon dinners for new year's - the concert in the square and fireworks on the river

then we quickly move to mardi gras which is february 2 or 3 (don't have a claendar in front of me) very very early next year's will probably be cold - but with the global warming who knows........and on and on

Columnist: 'When did we become like Syria?'Jason Rhyne
Published: Saturday November 17, 2007

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The secretive US policy of transferring suspected terrorists abroad for severe interrogations is akin to something the Syrian government would do, according to a Syrian-American columnist and lawyer.

"When visiting my grandmother's house in Damascus a few years ago, I never could have imagined sitting one day in a U.S. court, listening to the U.S. government defend its covert transfer of a Canadian citizen to Syria to be tortured," writes Salon columnist Alia Malek. "Yet, that's precisely what happened..."

Malek's column is entitled "When did we become like Syria?"

The columnist was present in court last week for the appeal of Maher Arar (above right, with daughter), a Canadian born in Syria who was arrested by US officials in 2002, purportedly for his suspected links to Al Qaeda. "He was denied access to counsel and access to a court. Twelve days later he was sent in chains and shackles to Syria," writes Malek. "There he was tortured for nearly a year and coerced into making a false confession, before being released after the tireless campaigning of his wife."

Arar's case against the US government, originally thrown out by a lower court, is the first legal challenge to the policy of rendition, the transfer of American-held detainees to foreign countries known to employ torture measures.

"The interrogation lasted about seven or eight hours, and then they came, and shackled me and chained me," Arar told 60 Minutes II in 2004 about his experience in US custody. "I said, 'What's happening here?' And they would not tell me. They said, ‘You are gonna know tomorrow.'...What they accused me of being is very serious. Being a member of al Qaeda."

Two weeks later, Arar was deported to Syria, according to CBS. "They read me the document. They say, 'The INS director decided to deport you to Syria,'"Arar said in the interview. "And of course, the first thing I did was I started crying, because everyone knows that Syria practices torture." Arar was later released -- a year and a half after his arrest -- following a protracted campaign from his wife, Monia, who lobbied the Canadian government to look into the matter.

Early this year, the innocent Arar was awarded $9 million and an apology from Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper.

"The story is already disturbing, surreal, Kafkaesque," continues Malek. "It also left me with this realization: The sharp line I had drawn as a child -- between what could happen to a person under a dictatorship like Syria's and what could never happen to a person under a constitutional democracy like that of the U.S. -- seemed to be disappearing."

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Columnist_When_did_we_become_like_1114.htm...

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