DiFi feels the pain and see you friday anons!

hows it going???

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kaYnbZmsq0k

ooooooooooooo

a most positive evening to all that love peace

i am spirit and am seeking positive intelligent blogs

I've got 5 in a fight for who owns the "God of War II" title on PS2 in the living room. Nobody is bleeding yet though :(

Whaaaa? You can't just pop in and go...I miss you already... :( You might like http://zaadz.com ... (it's not especially positive here...mho...)

WAS KNOCKED OFF AIR?

WTF? They are filtering the progressives.

Bush To Be Pursued Legally After Leaving White House

http://www.opednews.com

President Bush and any of his aides that advocated or participated in torture will be the targets of legal action even after they leave office, President Michael Ratner of the Center for Constitutional Rights(CCR), New York, said.

“After Bush is out of office, the Center(CCR) will pursue Bush and Cheney. We are not going to let go of these people,” said Ratner, whose organization coordinates the work of more than 600 lawyers nationally involved in defending the rights of prisoners held by the U.S. at Guantanamo, many of whom say they have been tortured.

Hello! It's so nice to see you again! Me and Missy have been wondering about you...XOXO!

Gas Station Ghost....
Submitted by Alice on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 10:33pm.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kaYnbZmsq0k

that may be proof that spirits really do exist..

that gas station is where an native american reservation used to be where great spirits once roamed and great people passed on

it doesn't seem to be a bad spirit though

thier lives jenise.

Every morning they get to wake up to THAT.

a most gracious evening to you jenise..

your presence seems to be coming here from far away but your seeking of knowledge comes through

i am merely a seeker of knowledge, good conversation and peaceful times

about if or how he (and they) could be prosecuted...

(...and don't forget Paraguay...)

Government men don't generally pay for the wars they start...they appease people by prosecuting individual soliders..tho they are also responsible, but the larger crimes go unpunished I think..Also..you know..if slaughtering civilians is legal then we have a HUGE problem to begin with...

Oh! I just got it..you're happy the anonymous will be blocked..der..sorry..I forgot...

Hiya, j-sama.

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Killing In The Name Of, Rage Against The Machine

Bombtrack, Rage Against The Machine

Raise your hand if you wanna have sex with Cicero... :)
~A.

can't add anything to that!

We are fucked. America won't wake up. COMATOSE. They don't want to know b/c it means they have to love each other. Love for the brown/black is a problem.

You helped us survive the last thread.

: )

thank you much.

hey alice. you might be interested in this project we've been working on. photos here

a little hard to explain, but the stickers oppose amending the japanese constitution to change the article that renounces war. the designers turned the "yankee" aesthetic on its head to advocate the opposite of what the yankees stand for. (the yankees are a nationalistic, racist group. the japanese equivalent of skinheads. so it'd be like taking the skinhead aesthetic to support interracial marriage...or something like that)

The Vagabond, Air, featuring Beck

Raise your hand if you wanna have sex with Cicero... :)
~A.

Oh cool! What's the pulse of your kollective lately wfc?...Fill me in if you're in the moooood... :)

Since I've been ill I have no tolerance for the trolls.

I can understand freedom of speech but they take advantage of it. I've been hanging back doing other things until now.

It's bad enough to have to abide this government and a bunch of unthinking people but the trolls add insult to injury!

-it'd be like taking the skinhead aesthetic to support interracial marriage...or something like that-

"Government men don't generally pay for the wars they start..."

or much else. i did think the president could be prosecuted even after he leaves office...

hey, waiting. how you doing? heard you on the show a few weeks ago... so good to hear your voice again. (good god, is GAP back again?)

If it is I want to wish you Birthday greetings sent with much love XXOO!

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I'll save it for the day...! You're sweet..
I'll see your much love and raise ya more.. ;)

you haven't been feeling well again lately? imagine it's getting cold where you are about now...

Morocco? Must have been tres cool!!!!

How are you? Better I hope.

Good to see you here!

I had a short hospital stay recently with an irregular heartbeat. They call it atrial fibrillation. Just another health issue to deal with.

Looks like you've been busy traveling.

???

--Do yourself a favor... don't feed the trolls. Trolls, do you and me a favor, lay off the risque photos.--

I used to own a travel agency so I traveled a bit.

Birthday, The Beatles

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Things are good here, j-sama. Helping a friend start a business this month. Very exciting.

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In a word, A.; dissatisfaction. Most are happy to see some progress in Congress, in general, but things are moving too slowly. The time for half measures has come, and gone, imo. Other than that, things are much the same. It's a contentious political blog, plent of friendship and fighting, with a bit of intelligent dialog thrown in for seasoning. So it goes.

Raise your hand if you wanna have sex with Cicero... :)
~A.

Almost Alice, I checked that out at the public library this spring, along with some other Huxley stuff. But had to return it before I got to it, you know how that goes.

: )

so I would argue that that post is not directed at you. Of course, I have no idea what our gracious host's ideas for proper commenting actually are, so I'd email for clarification, were it me.

Raise your hand if you wanna have sex with Cicero... :)
~A.

unless someone has a hold on it, you can renew it twice - once in person and once online or on the phone...for a total of 9 weeks... So go get it again! ;)

and they didn't respond then, so I've always just figured all was well until I get banned...which has not ever happened that I'm aware of...

unbelievable timing for an old book in a small city. Huxley was hot again this year. : )

tonid, sorry to hear about the irregular heartbeat. have they got that under control now? i've been busy, but with work mostly. the stickers we mostly sent to people we know in different countries to catch the eye of young japanese travelers who are generally pretty apathetic as far as japanese politics go. i am planning a trip to bhutan this spring, though...

alice, when is your birthday? (you'll tell me, i'll forget 10 minutes later, and then i'll feel guilty when you remember mine. because you are so considerate about those things, and i suck. but tell me anyway...?)
so how are you doing these days on your beautiful mountain?

I say that sometimes about old books too...alla sudden they're in demand..it's odd...

What a hollow threat that is! The 3% will be so busy bitching about Hillary they won't have any time or money to waste.

I must have missed it. Like I said, I've been hanging back a bit from the trolls. It's all nonsense with them.

Breaking: House passes Iraq redeployment bill. Tonight, the House of Representatives voted 218-203 to pass a $50 billion funding bill for Iraq that would require withdrawal of most U.S. troops from Iraq to begin within 30 days of the bill’s enactment, with a completion goal of Dec. 15, 2008. The AP reports:

The bill was on shaky ground this week, after some liberal Democrats said they were concerned it was too soft and would not force Bush to end the war. Conservative Democrats said they thought it went too far and would tie the hands of military commanders.

Uncertain the bill would pass, Pelosi on Wednesday delayed a vote by several hours while she met with supporters and asked them to help her round up votes.

The bill’s prospects brightened somewhat early Wednesday after three leading anti-war Democrats announced they would support it. California Reps. Lynn Woolsey, Barbara Lee and Maxine Waters said they had agreed to swing behind it because the bill explicitly states the money should be used to bring troops home.

UPDATE: The Gavel has more.

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=942

[withdraws food]

I forgot birthdays too this past year...my Outlook crashed and I lost all the b-day data... :(... It's nice up here lately..have had the last few days off and the weather has been perfection...! Let's see...not much new, just taking more time to be with my cats...I'm relieved now that we decided not to foster any more cats or kittens...Having so many strays here just blew me away with vets bills for all the stuff my cats caught from them...

What's the weather like in Japan this time of year?

alice, looks like sam is online now. maybe ask him while he's here...

3%? 3% of what?

wfc, good luck with the business. i'll be sending good business-y thoughts your way...

at the top...and wondered...

I'll pass on your wishes to my friend. I'm just handling the refit on the building. Fun work, so far, and the weather's been clear, if cold, so it's good.

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bbl

Raise your hand if you wanna have sex with Cicero... :)
~A.

I'm on stronger meds to control the irregular heatbeat. This problem I blame on the Vioxx.

It is getting colder here 28 tonight. But up til now it's been unusually warm for this time of year.

How have you been?

The 3% is the radical, wild-eyed, far-left, net-rooted loons that are rejected by both the Democrats and Republicans. (See Cindy)

MSNBC flow chart explains Regan-Giuliani connection. As ThinkProgress noted earlier today, former book publisher Judith Regan claims in her lawsuit against News Corp. that a company executive “encouraged her to lie to federal investigators about her past affair with Bernard B. Kerik” in order to “to protect the presidential aspirations of Rudolph W. Giuliani.” The connections between Regan, Kerik, Giuliani and News Corp. can be a little confusing, but thankfully, MSNBC has created a flow chart explaining “who’s who” and how everyone’s connected. Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/msnbc-flow-chart-explains-regan-giul...

http://esp.astrology.com/

It's the anon that posts all the photos that Sam is speaking of. Your photos are art, this anon poster gets close to porn and some firewalls won't allow the blog through because of it.

alice, i know that relief, i think. not with cats, but with other stuff... kyoto's nice right now. cool, but not too cold. and we're just starting to get the fall leaves the city's famous for...

speaking of which, i've got to get going. plan to enjoy my first day off in a really long time filming on the "philosopher's path"

tonid, feel better soon.

have a good one, brett, the 3%er and everyone else.

"The 3% is the radical, wild-eyed, far-left, net-rooted loons that are rejected by both the Democrats and Republicans. (See Cindy)"

oh, right, of course

later.

Jake La Botz Band live Downtown L.A. Mondays @ the Redwood

THE REDWOOD BAR
316 W. 2ND STREET (near Broadway)
MONDAYS
9PM-LATE
www.theredwoodbar.com

later

Take care.

take a nice hot bubbly bath...XOXOX

You see Cindy figured this out as soon as the Dems took power. Cindy thought the Dems where her pals and would do as she asked. It didn't take many votes for Cindy to understand that she was out there on her own.

Political Parties

A political party is an organization of individuals with common ideology or program about governing the society. Political parties yearn for power, which they seize in nations usually through forming a government, taking seats in the parliament or both. When political parties are not represented in the government, they function as opposition to the ruling parties. Political parties which do not obtain sufficient votes, do not get seats in the parliament or participate in the government. In such cases they exercise their power, however limited it may be, trying to influence the parliament, the government and the general public through publications and broadcasts, meetings, demonstrations and other campaigns, or by making alliances with other parties.

The famous one-dimensional left-right ideological scale of political parties originates from the seating arrangements of the 1789 French National Assembly, where Third Estate consisted of revolutionaries and sat on the left side, and members of the First Estate, the nobles, sat on the right. The left-right scale in modern times is intended to describe political parties' power basis, affiliations and programs:

- the right wing consists of conservative, religious and/or rich people, working for preserving the existing unequal and unjust distribution of social and economic power, or restoring earlier, even more unequal, social systems, the extreme right being fascists, nazis, racists and other militarists trying to impose a centralized rule of the brutes, based on criteria as wealth, religion, race, ethnicity, or family linkage;

- the left wing is the power elite pretending to represent less wealthy people, more liberal, allegedly working for reforms improving the conditions of lower classes, extreme left is holding radical or revolutionary programs about one party dictatorship, often using the words communism, socialism, leninism, marxism as excuse, cover and trick of confusion in their project for taking the power within the state.

All political parties, no matter how left or right they are placed on the deceptive ideological scale, are statist, they protect the state and use it for promoting own corrupt agenda of governing. Power and government is the dream and the Holiness of political parties. They want power over the people, they want to rule, they want to oppress and exploit the subjects of the state, not substantially different from what and how a monarch does.
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Ok..I'm going with that theory then... :)

Alice
toniD
Brett
Waiting for Cicero
jenise

to add:

Annette
Peaches P.

Chevron settles on Iraq oil-for-food scandal
by Chris in Paris · 11/14/2007 11:31:00 PM ET
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What one minute. I thought the dirtbags involved in this disgraceful activity with Iraq were limited to France, Germany, Putin and everyone else who was against the US invasion of Iraq. The second largest oil company in America settles for $30 million to put this scandal behind them though it's much more of a whimper compared to the venom spewed by the media and administration just a few short years ago. Who would imagine that a good old Texas company was involved in such a program?
Chevron Corp (NYSE:CVX - News) agreed to pay $30 million to resolve criminal and civil liabilities related to procurement of oil under the United Nations oil-for-food program, U.S. prosecutors said on Wednesday.

Chevron, the No. 2 U.S. oil company, obtained Iraqi oil under the program from third parties that paid secret, illegal surcharges to the former government of Iraq, prosecutors said.

Chevron will not be prosecuted and will continue to cooperate with investigators, prosecutors said.

http://www.americablog.com/2007/11/chevron-settles-on-iraq-oil-for-food....

Troll free tonight. Except the -97%

I've been working on and off all day on what will be my first open mic. Yeah, I know, about time. At one point one of my cats clicked the mouse and half the stuff was gone. grrrr! But thankfully I was able to retrieved it. I'm gonna finish it in the morning and post it tomorrow. Meanwhile I'll post an excerpt from the first part here now. If ya don't mind.

: )

Sure, we all enjoy the 'dewey' callers getting smacked down in their own driveling ignorance on the radio, but this is a different medium altogether. The mind processes aggression differently in the written word than it does auditorily. In speaking, whether in person or via telephone, communication is far more dynamic than one dimensional text. Voice inflections, tone, volume, and the ability to interrupt your adversary with counterpoints make vocal discourse more of a fair game for both sides. The outcome is usually determined by intellectual prowess and the spoken words eventually fade into the ether.

Blogging discourse on the other hand, is like trying to argue with a book. A quickly scribbled book being co-written with friends and strangers, where you are unable to tear out any pages other than your own. Pages of permanent prose, sometimes loaded with derogatory, hateful, baseless rantings directed at you, about you, spewing from a sociopathic mind for all the world to see. In the publishing world such defamation would not get past the editor's first cursory glance.

Mark Cuban Challenges Bill O’Reilly To Face Him On Countdown
By: Logan Murphy @ 9:00 AM - PST

Download (2830) | Play (3688) Download (1520) | Play (1762)

On Tuesday’s Countdown, Keith Olbermann takes on the Falafel Guy for his outrageous attacks on Mark Cuban and his total lack of knowledge when it comes to the history of free speech. O’Reilly has suggested that somehow FDR would have arrested and jailed Cuban for producing a movie like Brian De Palma’s Redacted (which he admits he’s never seen) or for simply criticizing BillO himself.

O’Reilly also called on his minions to boycott Redacted and hold signs up saying “support the troops” outside any theater that shows the film and at Maverick games. Like those 70-80 year olds that make up most of Billo’s audience are going to go sit outside the American Airlines Center with signs.

Cuban responded by challenging The Culture Warrior to watch the movie with him and appear with him on Countdown to talk about the movie — of course, Keith would get to moderate.

Cuban’s Challenge: Download (1549) | Play (1924) Download (379) | Play (941)

Olbermann: “He (Cuban) has been under Bill O’Reilly’s evil gaze since March of this year and as usual, BillO’s King Lear act in which he threatens somebody with terrible consequences and boycotts and plagues of locusts, has produced nothing tangible other than making the object of his impotent rage richer.”

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/14/mark-cuban-challenges-bill-orei...

Well thought out.

Those are roughly the second and third paragraphs, and I think it establishes where I'm going with this.

See you in the AM.

Tomorrow is another Dem Debate on CNN.

Sleep well

: )

I know who I should speak to now if I get stuck in this book I'm starting (over again)...I stopped and read other stuff because of its content..It's called "Bridging Science and Spirit: Common Elements In David Bohm's Physics, The Perennial Philosophy, and Seth", by Norman Friedman-(1993..I have a '97 printing)

After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.

Aldous Huxley

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beautiful posts, as always

: )

RR is rocking reality
Submitted by Fernando on Wed, 11/14/2007 - 5:14pm.
finally says it's all in sync so the bill will be called at the end of the administrations term when economic shock will occur.

This shouldn't be news for anyone over the age of 30 - still you never hear it. The younger folks need to be told.
*******
are you talking about,here?
Who's RR?
Catching up on older thread and,saw this..Just wondering.. :)
Thanks..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

Hee! Cool stuff as usual Peaches..Thanks ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

When In Rome - The Promise

Goodnight everybody

; )

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

TV Newser

MSNBC is taking a swipe at Fox News Channel over the $100M lawsuit filed by Judith Regan. Regan worked for News Corp.-owned publisher HarperCollins. This is how MSNBC's David Shuster, who once worked for FNC, reported the story in the 9amET hour:

"This is bad news, perhaps not just for Rudy Giuliani, but also for Fox News Channel. Roger Ailes who is in charge of Fox News, a close friend of Rupert Murdoch, he's been close friends with Rudy Giuliani for 20 years. Fox News commentator Sean Hannity led a Giuliani fund-raiser."

"Here you have a $100 million lawsuit in which Judith Regan is alleging that there was a smear campaign against her to protect the political agenda of Fox News of News Corp. and that that political agenda was to protect Rudy Giuliani."

Free Democracy

Such souls,
Whose sudden visitations daze the world,
Vanish like lightning, but they leave behind
A voice that in the distance far away
Wakens the slumbering ages.

-Henry Taylor

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WBTV.com

Members of a Charlotte church met for the first time Wednesday night since they were booted out of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina.

Myers Park Baptist Church is open and accepting to gay and lesbian parishioners.

On Wednesday, we went to the church to see what members think about getting kicked out of the denomination.

The church has been around since the 1940s and has been part of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina--until Tuesday.

The convention met in Greensboro and voted to kick the church out since it allows gay and lesbian people to be members and hold positions in the church.

Robin Johnston is a long-time member of the church. She says being "kicked out" is actually a relief.

"I think there are those of us here--and I won't speak for everybody in the congregation--but I'm certainly one of them who kind of wears this as a badge of honor," Johnston said.

Member Todd Rubenson says he strongly supports the church, but he says this week has been bittersweet.

"This is a relationship that we had with the Baptist convention for many, many years--I think over 60 years, and we don't take the severing of that relationship lightly at all," he said.

No one from the Baptist convention would return our calls Wednesday night. Their website says all are welcome to attend Baptist churches, but the convention believes homosexuality is a sin and churches, therefore, should not allow homosexuals to join.

excerpt from "Blog Civility"
Submitted by Brett on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 12:04am
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Thanks for the effort too! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Peaches...Rules!

I measures up!! ; )

I thinks MM...Rules ('specially when he's sweet!! ; )

♥♫♥♫♥♫Night, pups!♥♫♥♫♥♫

To his dog, every man is Napoleon; hence the constant popularity of dogs.

-Aldous Huxley

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:)

GoodNite Peaches.. :)
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

This is crazy!!I hate the Taliban and,I'm not sure about 9/11 either way..But,Free speech,dissent and,not believing everything your told use to be a big part of being a American..
What is happening to this country? Very Scary !
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The Department of Homeland Security has taken a dangerous step towards punishing anyone who questions the government!

by Barbara Peterson

Do you remember when Bush Jr. said, “either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists”? Well, he meant it. Homeland Security’s sub-committee on terrorism risk assessment convened a hearing on 11-06-2007 to discuss “using the Web as a weapon – the Internet as a tool for violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.” In a video of this meeting, which was last aired by C-Span on 11-12-2007, members of the sub-committee clearly pointed to Internet sites that question the legitimacy of the official 9/11 story as tools for recruiting terrorists.

One of these “media portals” displayed in the Power Point presentation is Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. This site is sandwiched between a Taliban training manual, and several Taliban recruitment sites showing how to make bombs, take captives, and blow buildings up.

By portraying sites such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth as terrorist recruitment organizations, the Department of Homeland Security has taken a dangerous step towards punishing anyone who questions the government. If you go to the A&E Website, you will see that it is a group of “ 212 architectural and engineering professionals and 518 other supporters including A/E students who have joined...in demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation of the collapse of the WTC buildings.” Their mission statement is, “To research and to disseminate the truth of the 9/11 “collapses” of all 3 WTC high-rise buildings to every architect and engineer.” I cannot find any indication that this site promotes terrorism, much less recruits terrorists for the Taliban, yet the Department of Homeland Security has taken the stance that the site is “intended to recruit or inflame the emotions” (Weitzman, M.), and lumps it in with sites disseminating the Taliban Training Manual, and advocating suicide bombings.

If all Websites that disagree with the official government explanation of the collapse of the WTC towers is placed on a list of suspected terrorist Websites, what is next? Like Bush Jr. stated: “either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”
Con't-opednews.com
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

wow.

just furthur evidence that terrorism is being used as a catchall for anything that would question their authoritay.

U.S. Falls to No. 15 in Average Worker Income
David Francis, Christian Science Monitor
Corporate Accountability and WorkPlace: That ranking would surprise most Americans, who likely consider their nation the most prosperous in the world.

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/67723/

Democrats May Force All-Night Filibuster on Iraq Withdrawal
Steve Benen: If that's the case, allow me to give the Democratic leadership some positive encouragement: this is a good idea.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/#67905

Thud! More banking results announced
by Chris in Paris · 11/15/2007 05:56:00 AM ET
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That's the sound coming from Barclays in the UK who are writing down $2.7 billion of bad business. Every day, more bad news from Big Finance and as much as they say "this is it" they have no idea. The numbers continue to change and probably will continue to bounce around for a while. A bit of oversight and regulation could have limited the pain but for some reason, oversight is viewed as a bad thing with Republicans who would have none of it.

While we're at it, a quick overview of failed GOP policies. Keep it handy as we move into the election year.
- Afghanistan: early success has turned into dangerous environment
- Iraq: black hole of spending, thousands dead, no plan for future
- Economy: Failure to provide oversight crushing US and world economy
- Weak Dollar: More expensive goods, higher gas prices, inflation concerns
- Human Rights: Remember when we used to believe in them?
- Katrina: Let them eat cake
- Taxes: Middle class treated as bank for excessive spending, handouts to rich and corporate America

The list can go on and on and on. Have a go at it. Democrats in Washington need to step back and see what the rest of us see and take action. The Bush and GOP record is a train wreck so why the wimpy attitude?

http://www.americablog.com/2007/11/thud-more-banking-results-announced.h...

Bernanke Says Fed Will Increase Forecasts, Include Food, Energy in Prices Federal Reserve officials will double the number of economic forecasts each year and extend their scope, offering what Chairman Ben S. Bernanke called a ``rough'' guide to the direction of interest rates.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aEPTCGNggLGk&refer=e...

Randi Rhodes was breaking down how legislation has expenditures that eventually comes due. In this case Bush has put everything on credit and the next President is left to pay off his debt.

Cleveland federal judge: Dismisses 32 foreclosures for lack of proof

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A federal judge in Cleveland tossed out 32 foreclosure cases in a mass dismissal today because banks and other lenders failed to file a complete set of documents showing their claims were legitimate.

http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2007/11/cleveland-federal-judge-d...

Fake vote: Democrats' withdrawal
demand is non-binding

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The Democratic-led House of Representatives on Wednesday approved a non-binding timetable for withdrawing troops from Iraq, defying President George W. Bush by tying the measure to $50 billion in new war funds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071115/pl_nm/iraq_usa_funding_dc

Over 35 million Americans
faced hunger in 2006: USDA

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The U.S. government said the number of Americans who went hungry in 2006 was held in check at 35 million people from the prior year, but food advocacy groups said on Wednesday more needs to be done.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071114/us_nm/usa_food_hunger_dc;_ylt=AgjTHc...

US is looking past
Musharraf in case he falls

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Almost two weeks into Pakistan’s political crisis, Bush administration officials are losing faith that the Pakistani president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, can survive in office and have begun discussing what might come next, according to senior administration officials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/washington/15policy.html?_r=1&ex=13527...

Rudy Giuliani's Rivals Attack Him Over Latest Twist In Kerik Scandal

Rudy Giuliani's rivals are not at all satisfied with the former mayor's dismissal of the newest twist in the Bernard Kerik scandal. Commenting on book publisher Judith Regan's allegation that a senior executive at News Corp told her to lie to federal investigators about her affair with Kerik to protect Giuliani's nomination of Kerik as homeland security secretary, one McCain aide said,

"Obviously there are some very serious charges involved for a guy who was his protégé and one of his closest friends. And for Rudy to go out and say this is not worthy of discussion when it directly involves him and his decision making, and in the case of department of homeland security, the security of our country - it's disturbing that Rudy would think it's not something he is going to have to address. "

Read entire article here

http://www.observer.com/2007/giuliani-rivals-keep-hitting-kerik

New Attorney General opposes changes to wiretap law

WASHINGTON (CNN) — In his second day on the job, Attorney General Michael Mukasey leaped into the political fray, telling a key Democratic senator he opposes his electronic surveillance plan and would recommend the president veto it if it is passed.

In a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., on the eve of crucial committee votes to update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), Mukasey was adamant in opposing Leahy's plan for changing the law.

Mukasey and Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell co-signed the letter released Wednesday night by the Justice Department.

"We strongly oppose the proposed substitute amendment. If the substitute is part of a bill that is presented to the president, we and the president's other senior advisers will recommend that he veto the bill," they said.

Leahy last week introduced his substitute to a FISA modernization bill already approved by the Senate Intelligence Committee. That effort, led by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., won wide bipartisan support and is backed by the administration. It includes retroactive immunity to legally protect the telecommunications companies which cooperated with the administration's classified warrantless surveillance program.

Leahy, who had opposed Mukasey's confirmation last week, is adamantly opposed to the immunity provision.

Mukasey and McConnell listed nearly a dozen other provisions or omissions in the Leahy plan which they said "would not provide the intelligence community with the tools it needs effectively to collect foreign intelligence information vital for the security of the nation."

The White House, meanwhile, released a statement calling Leahy's plan "a step back for our nation's security."

Leahy and many of his Democratic allies back provisions which they believe provide essential civil liberties protections against excessive government intrusion and potential abuse.

The veto threat adds to an already testy atmosphere in which the highly partisan Senate Judiciary Committee has struggled unsuccessfully to reach a consensus on how to update the 30-year-old FISA law, which they agree has been overtaken by dramatic changes in technology.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/14/new-attorney-general-opp...

yourll

mire saw your name calling on yesterdays thread....that is exactly what went thru my mind---"cookie and buzzy" what the fuck??

thanks sam for the difi clip...am enjoying it! am turning my rod in the fire while reading*---

Lucille,Tonid,Dan too! :)

Fern..I couldn't tell if RR was Randi or,Reagan..Again,Thanks. :)

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The Dems in Congress have it made. Everyone knows they will fully fund the War on Terror without restrictions. So they are free to pretend that they would end the fighting in Iraq if they could.

When Hillary wins next year, that luxury will be lost. Instead of telling us what they would do "if only they could", they will be responsible for leading this country while we are at war.

Will Iraq be turned over to Iran?

Will Afghanistan be given to the Taliban?

Will Pakistan's Nucs fall to Ben Laden?

Will Iran be allowed to Nuke Israel?

Let's see what the Dems have to say about that! The mask will be off and the 97% will be forced to step up as they always do.

on Republican Sexcapades this morning on TYT

FoxNewsPorn.com

Iraq-Afghanistan War Measure Faces Bush Veto

By Dan Robinson

Capitol Hill

14 November 2007

The Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives has approved a measure to provide $50 billion in short-term funding for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. VOA's Dan Robinson reports the legislation, which passed the House by a vote of218 to 203, now awaits a vote in the Senate where Republicans have predicted it will not pass, and also faces a veto threat from President Bush.

But this brought a renewed veto threat from the White House, where press secretary Dana Perino briefed reporters. "Once again they plan to send the president a bill that they know he will veto. This is for political posturing and to appease radical groups," she said.

Nicholas Johnston

(Bloomberg) -- When the Democratic Party called up recently to ask Myrna Burgess for a campaign contribution, she answered with an emphatic ``no.''

``Nothing has been done as far as the war is concerned,'' said Burgess, 72, an Amtrak worker from Levittown, Pennsylvania.

More than a year after anti-war voters like Burgess helped give Democrats control of Congress, there are more troops in Iraq, lawmakers have approved almost $100 billion in new war spending and congressional approval ratings are at record lows.

Democrats now worry that their inability to make good on campaign promises to end or slow the war in Iraq will have consequences. The disaffection has already fueled at least four anti-war primary challenges to party incumbents, raising fears among some lawmakers of an intra-party fight that could drain momentum before next year's elections.
Con't

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

just chillin' here but wanted to say hi.

Someone must have mis-dialed our house in the middle of the night, there's a msg on the machine that says:

"Fuck you, man. I'm tired of your shit, Mike. You went behind my back and fucked that girl...and I was like, "what the fuck".

Hahaha...There must be a website for wrong number messages somewhere...

;)

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What's up.. :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Elitist.

Guest Blogged by John Gideon of VotersUnite.org

An editorial in today’s Daytona Beach News-Journal begins: “For votes to count, they must be counted, and accurately. Americans expect tallies to be quick, as well.

“It doesn't always work that way. Ongoing problems with electronic vote-counting machines have eroded voter confidence and raised anxiety about the potential for tampering. In an era when voter-participation levels are already low, it's a problem local, state and federal leaders should confront.

“That effort should start with coordinated, national information-sharing. The U.S. Election Assistance Commission, created in 2004, was charged with creating a central clearinghouse detailing glitches, hardware problems and tampering attempts. That database has yet to be created. So when supervisors in Illinois or California --- or Volusia or Flagler counties --- want to know about potential problems with a system, their only recourse is to turn to the Internet. Grass-roots voting-accuracy advocates, to their credit, are operating informational Web sites, but elections officials should have an objective source to turn to --- especially since advocacy groups might not always have access to insider information about how an error occurred.”...
Link-bradblog.com

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Bit chilly here...

Good Morning, All!

White House: Reality Of Iraq War Has A Well-Known Liberal Bias

"Yesterday, Congress’s Joint Economic Committee produced a report finding that the “hidden” economic costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars totaled approximately $1.5 trillion, costing the average U.S. family of four more than $20,000. (View the full report here.) The total includes higher oil prices, the expense of treating wounded veterans, and interest payments on the money borrowed to pay for the wars.

Office of Management and Budget director Jim Nussle blasted a congressional report that pegged the cost of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan at $1.6 trillion through next year, saying the study by the Joint Economic Committee was 'clearly partisan.'"

It's a good thing Wolfowitz's prophecy of Iraq paying for itself with oil money has materialized as it has or we'd be in deep shit right about now! Can you imagine how much worse it would be if we were nose diving into a recession with Energy costs push consumer prices higher just before the holidays?

Well, the important thing is that millions in Iraq, like those in "Village 8" are now basking in freedom.

God Bless Amurca and the Surge! We've won and our boys and gurls are finally comin' home!

not much. recovering from going to charlotte to see tori amos the other night. she was great. but i'd never been to charlotte before and it was way dark and i got way lost both coming in and going out. lots of panic attack nonsense. but we saw the show and it was pretty wonderful.

coming back from a Clapton concert way back in the 70's..Got lost..
Too high..Ah,the good old days,losing brain cells..Crazy kids.. :)

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Is the boss around? :)

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Luv her voice ! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Someone must have mis-dialed our house in the middle of the night, there's a msg on the machine that says:

Hahaha...There must be a website for wrong number messages somewhere...

Did it sound like Maron?

NEW THREAD SORRY!!

about the ability of the President to do as he pleases with American Citizens. I cannot remember what the executive order was - Thom Hartman has mention it lots of times.

I lost my thumb drive I just realized and have been on a mad search...it's gone.. :(..

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-Did it sound like Maron?-

HAHA :) Hmmm..now I'll have to replay it to be sure... (Mornin' AirBall)

NEW THREAD!!!

If passed into law, it will also establish a commission and a Center of Excellence to study and defeat so called thought criminals.

Executive Order 13303

According to Russian legal experts, the greatest concern to the American people are the underlying provisions of this new law, and which, they state, are written ‘so broadly’ as to outlaw all forms of protest against the war. These provisions state:

"(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken."

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There are so many...this may not be the one you mean...

keiran
thursday people!
re Clapton: I'm listening to his autobiography on my ipod. He's so laid-back he makes living in a castle, being called god, and even hanging out with beatles sound boring.

Nice! I'll keep my eyes open for that one! Thanks!

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