what if

*Boo!*

Cash flows in as Hillary Clinton turns 60

By Alex Spillius in Washington

Last Updated: 1:00am BST 27/10/2007

Hillary Clinton turned 60 yesterday, but the more important number was the $1.5 million (£750,000) raised for her White House bid at a gala birthday party the previous evening.

Obama Fundraiser Defects to Clinton

By NEDRA PICKLER – 16 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A longtime Democratic fundraiser has abandoned Barack Obama's campaign to help rival Hillary Rodham Clinton win the party's presidential nomination.

Bob Farmer, who was a top fundraiser for several past Democratic presidential candidates, had served on Obama's national finance committee.

Farmer did not respond to a request for comment after a message was left at his home in Bal Harbour, Fla. But Kirk Wagar, Obama's Florida finance chair, said Farmer let him know he was switching sides without saying why.

It is true that Gore's assertions on the dangers of global warming have not gone unchallenged, and probably don't deserve to. He is on record as predicting worst-case scenarios in which the melting of Greenland and Antarctica could raise the mean sea level by as much as 20 feet, whereas the scientific consensus is not much more than 1 foot.

But to quarrel with the details of Gore's forecast is simply irrelevant. The point is that the man clearly cares, and is working furiously to avert what he sincerely believes is a looming disaster. How can one criticize a man so manifestly bent on saving the human race?

There would seem only one honor left for him to receive. What else could so perfectly crown this lifetime of public service as . . . . the presidency of the United States?

You can bet your bottom dollar that he wants the job - wants it so much his chest aches. After all, he has pursued it all his life. And now the stars seem aligned in a way that points inexorably toward that one glittering goal. There is, in fact, only one serious obstacle. And there she sits, like the Rock of Chickamauga: Hillary Clinton.

In recent weeks, Sen. Clinton has been steadily lengthening her lead over the other declared candidates for the Democratic nomination - notably Sen. Barack Obama and former Sen. John Edwards, not to mention lesser lights. One after another, leading Democratic politicians have publicly endorsed her, which is the surest possible sign that they believe she has the nomination wrapped up.

he might not have a nickname, and he might not get any respect, but at least he still has his Hillary Clinton obsession to keep him warm.

Saturday, October 27th, 2007
ISSUE #33.50 • NEWS • NEWS STORY
[ENVIRONMENT]
Q&A: Michael Shellenberger

A rogue environmentalist takes aim at the movement he says has failed.

BY JAMES PITKIN | jpitkin at wweek dot com
[October 24th, 2007]

Michael Shellenberger and Ted Nordhaus set off a firestorm among environmental leaders when they argued in their 2004 essay “The Death of Environmentalism” that the movement’s politics were outdated and doomed to fail in motivating the public to address climate change.

Their new book, Break Through: From the Death of Environmentalism to the Politics of Possibility, expands on that idea. Rather than embracing the old approach of regulating industry, they call for working with corporations and making a $300 billion federal investment in green technologies.

Before Shellenberger arrives next week to discuss the book, WW spoke with him about the Oregon Legislature’s carrot-and-stick approach to promoting green energy, such as requiring that 25 percent of Oregon’s energy come from renewable sources by 2025. He also weighed in on Portland’s reputation as an eco-utopia of biodiesel requirements and recycling mandates, and on Nobel Peace Prize winner Al Gore’s green cred.

i]WW[/i] : Have environmentalists made global warming worse by alienating the public?
Michael Shellenberger: The environmental movement presents this argument that global warming is a planetary emergency. But then they say it will be really easy to fix—we just put in place some pollution limits and some efficiency regulations. The public says, “Look, you’ve either lied about the size of the problem or you’ve lied about the solutions.” And the right wing says they lied about the problem.

Is Al Gore at least on the right track?
Al Gore has talked about a lot of big solutions, but I still haven’t heard him advocate for a massive investment in clean energy. I certainly didn’t see it in [Gore’s 2006 film,] An Inconvenient Truth.

Are Oregon’s green initiatives counterproductive?
They’re not counterproductive. They’re just extremely limited in what they’re going to be able to achieve. Any regulatory approach creates a Catch-22. The idea of regulations is to increase the cost of dirty energy so that clean energy becomes cost-competitive. But if you increase the cost of dirty energy a lot—which is what you have to do to make things like solar competitive—you’re going to trigger a backlash from consumers and industry.

What about Portland touting itself as an eco-topia?
That’s all fine. I just want to be really clear-eyed about what all that stuff is not going to do. None of it is going to add up to anything sufficient to deal with the crisis we face. It would be irresponsible to act like this will get us where we need to go, when it so clearly won’t.

Isn’t it naïve to think oil and energy companies will be good-faith partners in fighting global warming?
What they want to do is make profits. Their goal is not necessarily to sell coal and oil. If they can make money in some other way, they’ll do it. You’ve had 20 years of failure in trying to get federal legislation on global warming, because the whole thing has gotten constructed as environmentalists versus corporations. It’s never been so simple. It’s always been governments working to create markets and shape markets. If corporations are evil and they’re the problem, you’re stuck in a politics of limits.

FACT: Shellenberger will speak at Portland State University’s Smith Memorial Student Union Nov. 1 at 7:30 pm (call 725-4044 for info) and at the Portland City Club’s Friday Forum Nov. 2 at 11 am at the Governor Hotel (call 228-7231, ext. 103, for info). The PSU talk is free, the City Club event starts at $5.

as soon as gore's mentioned... BAMM!

INSTANT SPAM ATTACK!

(right on cue)

*

seder, you're as disgusting as the trolls that barf here

Goldwater Miller '08
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just thinking, how about

Bin Laden-Cheney '08

Peace and Justice on Sat, 10/27/2007 -

...
I hope there is a ton of media there and we get good exposure for a change!!!

I don't have great MSM expectations this is 2007 not 1970's.
It is slow news Saturday.

C9

The schedule for the day is

9:30 am load buses

10 am buses leave

1 pm (or so depending on traffic)) arrive at Union Park

1:30 pm Rally in Union Park

2:30 pm March to Federal Plaza

4 pm Rally at Federal Plaza

6 pm head for buses on Van Buren St.

6:30 pm Buses leave for Milwaukee.

I got a bus to catch!

The day that a Demonstration runs on time.. God forbid FEMA will run it like a press conference.

C9
Peace and Solidarity

Looking forward to pictures! Later.

(except from his fuckhead constituents)

the trolls and...
the mentally disturbed
(and big oil, who love them and fund them)

after US imposes more sanctions
(LA Times)
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-euroiran27oct27,...

Bill Maher: New Rules - 'We Have Become Most Insecure Paranoid Superpower Ever'

Run time: 06:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYTH3Z38bL4

Free Democracy

SMU still waits to seal the deal on Bush library

School says negotiation process, not lawsuit over land, behind delay

10:51 AM CDT on Monday, October 22, 2007
By HOLLY K. HACKER and PAUL MEYER / The Dallas Morning News
hhacker@dallasnews.com; pmeyer@dallasnews.com

The waiting game for the Bush library to be officially awarded to SMU has turned into something of a punch line for school President Gerald Turner.

"A business leader recently told me that every major deal he ever made was within two weeks of completion – five or six times," Dr. Turner told the SMU faculty in August.

Then this month, asked again when an announcement would come, he responded, tongue-in-cheek: "We're about two weeks away."

Southern Methodist University launched its campaign for the George W. Bush Presidential Library five years ago. It beat out other competitors to become the sole finalist in December. Since then, campus leaders have said they expect to hear from the White House within weeks or months or "very soon" that SMU will indeed host the library.

I don't see him running.

An old couple who hadn't celebrated Halloween in a long time Decided to dress up and go out.

The old woman went into her bedroom, stripped naked and tied a Lemon between her legs. When she came out, the old man cried, "You can't Go out like that!" She said, "I can go anyway I like and so can you."

Whereupon he retired to the bedroom and came out stark raving Naked with a potato tied to his tally-whacker.

The old woman says, "you're going out like that?" and he replies, "Yep, if you can go as a Sour-puss, I can go as a dick-tator."

Free Democracy

The World Turned Upside Down
by Anonymous

(this one i like)

You see I am playing here,
Too, too, too, too;
When I've done with my flute,
I'll give it to you.

You're cute, Sam, but this kind of teasing, this early on a Saturday morning... Comparable to the cruelty of waking up your woman with a kiss without having brushed first.

Get 'em all revved up but what's missing? Oh yes. Gore's not running for President...I wish I wish, oh, how I wish he would!!!!

And btw, Anonahole, all Gore'd have to do is write a fucking check. He don't need no stinkin' donations.

I like the goose roasting the cook
and the bird shooting the hunter.
Murder most fowl!

:P

It's criminal...
there ought to be a law

CRIMINAL!
(there ought to be a whole lot more)

: )

[douche 1st]

just dropped the kids off at the tutor's, popping in and out to say whazzup?

en why see

Having known what it is like to lose once, do you think Gore will put his own money on the line? And what about all of the Democrat party machine that Hillary has in her pocket? Sorry, it's too late. Gore is going to bimble around, eat doughnuts, and try to make more cash. God bless him and good luck.

Guantanamo military lawyer breaks ranks to condemn 'unconscionable' detention
By Leonard Doyle in Washington
Published: 27 October 2007

An American military lawyer and veteran of dozens of secret Guantanamo tribunals has made a devastating attack on the legal process for determining whether Guantanamo prisoners are "enemy combatants".
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3101949.ece

yesterday, I saw that they were selling small cans of Chase and Sanborn brand coffee for $2. This was the brand my grandfather drank, or at least he sang their commercial jingle. So I picked one up. Awful! It must have been hell for American coffee drinkers before the gourmet revolution.

you scaring me---

Charges dropped against Pinochet widow, children
Published: Friday October 26, 2007

A Chilean appeals court on Friday dropped embezzlement charges against the widow of the country's late dictator, General Augusto Pinochet, and most of their children.

Fifth Appeals Court chief justice Juan Eduardo Fuentes said the panel dropped the charges lodged on October 4 against the widow, Lucia Hiriart, four of their children, and 10 advisers.

The finding said there was no evidence the accused had knowledge of a criminal effort to embezzle public funds, and added that they had not been questioned about reserve or slush funds or their alleged management.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Charges_dropped_against_Pinochet_wi_1026200...

i fought i killed my blog bug...

then along comes lucille, annette, and mire

(crikey!)

Full Moon -- Holloween Time ... that's what we do 8-)

Free Democracy

Willamette Week: Isn’t it naïve to think oil and energy companies will be good-faith partners in fighting global warming?

Michael Schellenberg: What they want to do is make profits. Their goal is not necessarily to sell coal and oil. If they can make money in some other way, they’ll do it. You’ve had 20 years of failure in trying to get federal legislation on global warming, because the whole thing has gotten constructed as environmentalists versus corporations. It’s never been so simple. It’s always been governments working to create markets and shape markets. If corporations are evil and they’re the problem, you’re stuck in a politics of limits.

Schellenberg's statement is, in a nutshell, how our political system works.
(I sockpuppetted this, as I was the anon who originally posted it. I read it in print, and knew I had to share.)

Brian Baird (D-WA) is seeking a Communications Director. Duties include developing and implementing a comprehensive communications strategy, including: writing press releases, floor statements and editorials; responding to press inquiries; producing newsletters and e-newsletters; proactively creating new media opportunities, fostering strong relationships with media contacts, and managing office website. A successful candidate will be an excellent writer with good interpersonal skills and a sense of humor. Salary commensurate with experience. E-mail cover letter, writing sample, and resume to Lisa.Austin, Chief of Staff at BairdResume@mail.house.gov.

dang, you missed me that much---

Andrew Sullivan nailed Hillary and Wesley Clark last night on Maher. Clark continues to defend the idea that labeling Iran's military as a terrorist organization didn't give Bush a blank check. Sam was certainly right about Clark, and he seems to be getting worse all the time.

Brian Baird (D-WA) is seeking a Communications Director... A successful candidate will be an excellent writer with good interpersonal skills and a sense of humor. Salary commensurate with experience. E-mail cover letter, writing sample, and resume to Lisa.Austin, Chief of Staff at BairdResume@mail.house.gov.

Why I Will Vote "No" on Mukasey

The attorney general of the United States must be a defender of our constitutional rights. Because President Bush thinks he can do whatever he wants to do in the name of fighting terrorism, we need an attorney general who can explain to the president what the Constitution of this country is all about. We need an attorney general who does not believe the president has unlimited power. We need an attorney general who will tell President Bush that he is not above the law. We need an attorney general who clearly understands the separation of powers inherent in our Constitution. Regretfully, I have concluded that Michael B Mukasey would not be that kind of attorney general. That is why I will be voting against his nomination.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_senator__071026_why_i_will_vote_...

he works for general electric (msnbc)now...wouldnt you want to get your boss' more money too?

AO try not to miss me too much, you crap cart!

phoning it in.

they just don't care anymore, and it shows.

their virtual gut is cascading over their blogline.

I'm sick of their words and lies...

word.....[ of the day ]

lord.....[ of the flies ]

loed.....[ Gradall Loed 534 -- 6000lb shooting boom forklift ]

lied.....[ is a German word, meaning literally "song" ]

lies.....[ Become a Lie Detector ]

All post, all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8UbE_O8VOQ

For a majority of likely voters, meaningless bullshit will be the most important factor in deciding who they will vote for in 2008.

man of peace. Look into his Kosovo war record, for instance. Oh, that's right, he was a general. Anyway, he may be right in calling Iran's military "terrorist"; but, as Sullivan pointed out, this line of thinking is liable of giving Bush a go ahead for an attack. (Think Iraq 2003.) Furthermore, to be fair, if Iran's military might be a terrorist organization, then Israel's is definitely one. Tto say nothing of the US's. Of course, politics is based on power, not fairness.

the next hour or so:

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Mon ~ Sat 6:00am to 6:00pm
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You must be kidding! You are so lucky to even have trolls. Do you know how run down this blog is? 10 regulars posting drug induced art and personal messages.

This was supposed the be the network that changed the face of talk radio. Now they are counting on web-casts and Internet radio. And then you bitch about not getting the best trolls?

How about you make something out of the place and maybe, just maybe, you can get War Dog and CM and Gare to give some time. But until then you better be happy anyone reads this blog.

what ever happened to Heart Full of Troll? Now that troll could be funny in spite of itsself.

Poaching and deforestation in the tropics are imperiling dozens of humans’ primate relations, with nearly a third of the 394 known species of apes, monkeys, lemurs and other groups listed as threatened with extinction in a new report from the World Conservation Union.

The report focuses on the plight of the 25 most endangered species, which live scattered around the tropics, mainly in areas of Asia and Africa. “You could fit all the surviving members of these 25 species in a single football stadium, that’s how few of them remain on earth today,” said Russell A. Mittermeier, the chairman of the panel of primate experts who wrote the report and the president of Conservation International.

There have been improvements in a few areas. Brazil dropped from the list of places with the most imperiled primates for the first time since the periodic assessments began in 2000. But eight primates have been on all four reports issued since then, including the Sumatran orangutan and the Cross River gorilla of Cameroon and Nigeria.

The worst hot spots are in southeast Asia, particularly Vietnam, and Madagascar, the report said.

The report was issued yesterday by biologists gathered on the southern Chinese island of Hainan, which is home to the most endangered primate of all, the Hainan gibbon. In a telephone interview from the island, Dr. Mittermeier said there were only 17 or 18 left, although that number rose slightly this year.

The forest agency for Hainan, which has 26 reserves, seems to be taking the gibbons’ fate seriously, he said.

Vietnam had the biggest number of most-endangered species, with five, while Madagascar came in a close second. Madagascar, a biologically isolated island off the east coast of Africa, where researchers have raised the estimated number of lemur species from 50 to 100 since 1950, has four of the primates on the top-25 list.

Dr. Mittermeier said that in Southeast Asia and some other regions, there was a growing interest among villages near primate habitat in protecting the colonies because they can draw environment-minded tourists, and income.

But without constant protection, which can cost as little as $200 a year in some places, poachers still find a way to hunt or trap animals, he said.

Submitted by Nicky Rose on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 11:36am.
...Anyway, he may be right in calling Iran's military "terrorist"...
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To borrow phrasing that is banal and overused: Terrorist is the new Communist.

Make you you're goddamn mind!

You bitch, moan and complain when the trolls are here.

and you bitch, moan and complain when their not here.

FUCK there is no pleasing you people.

Banning tends to chase them away.

To borrow phrasing that is banal and overused: Terrorist is the new Communist.

True. It is also selectively applied. Now, when they label Iran Islam0-terrorist, they will be onto something.

you heart full of trolls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4HIgqFnvik

DULZURA, Calif. — They were on their way back to Jamul, weary from dousing a flare-up along winding California 94.

"Stop!" a captain yelled to his fellow firefighters. "I think I see a body."

The engines in the caravan quickly reversed a couple of hundred yards, stopping near the intersection with Barrett Lake Road, said crew member Rodrigo Santana.

Face down, just off the side of the road, was a Latino man wearing a backpack. Obviously a migrant, his body was charred. He was dead, stopped in his tracks by advancing wildfires and thick smoke.

To these crews, the man was more than a casualty. He was a countryman.

Santana and his fellow crew members are bomberos from Tijuana, Mexico, among the first contingent of firefighters to come north to fight a major blaze. The team of about 40 is assigned to the Harris fire, near the border in San Diego County.

Their grim discovery Thursday was an eerie reminder of what others in their country are willing to risk for a new life in the U.S.

"It's the consequences of the United States being a First World country and that Mexico is not," Santana said Friday. "It's sad."

"He's not the first one and he's not going to be the last one that is going to be found," fellow bombero Jose Manuel Villarreal Salgado recalled thinking.

Sure enough, three other bodies, all believed to be those of illegal immigrants, were found by the U.S. Border Patrol farther down the road.

Of course, Salgado and Santana said, they had seen many dead bodies before, but it was strange to find one in the United States.

Both men grimaced slightly as they discussed their discovery. But each expressed different views of who was to blame -- Salgado pointed to the Mexican government, Santana to the U.S.

"It's a Mexican problem because they cannot provide stable jobs and good wages for the workers," Salgado said. "Mexico has the capacity to help and they don't. Government officials just stuff their pockets with our money."

"I'm disappointed in the Mexican government. It's difficult to see a Mexican die, trying to have a better life in another country," Salgado said. "It's sad. It's sad."

Of the migrants, Salgado said, "My opinion is that they have the knowledge of the risks they are taking."

Santana argued that Americans profit on the backs of Latino laborers. But the Mexicans, he said, do not always benefit; they cannot always send enough money back to their families.

Just in the process of getting here, many pay with their lives, often in the heat of the Arizona desert. The blazes are just another cruel way to go, Santana said.

All told in the recent wildfires, seven immigrants have been found dead not far from the border. At the University of San Diego Regional Burn Center, at least 14 are being treated for burns.

Scott McLean, a spokesman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, said it was "inevitable" that more bodies would be found.

On Wednesday, before the bomberos encountered the body, one of the crew from Tijuana discussed his fears for his migrant countrymen.

She's been gone such a long time
longer than I can bear
but if she says she wants me
tell her that I'll be there
And if she says to you
she don't love me
just give her my message
tell her of my plea.

The Lives of Others

Submitted by Alice on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 1:07am.

I have that DVD right now, loaned to me, I stopped it in the middle and haven't finished it yet..anyway...Bill Moyers just mentioned it...my mother loved this movie..now I can't wait to see the rest of it...

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Submitted by Alice on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 1:31am.

In that movie the spy of the govt who is listening in on everything..he ends up liking the couple AND being in love with the woman...empathizing with them...

_____________________

Seen that film here at the Tragic City film festival.

Agree w/momco: Thought it were a brilliant piece a work.

Coupla reactions/impressions:

[Spoiler alert(s): Don't be readin' nomores if you ain't seen/finished the film 'n still wanna view it cold.]

Only quibble I'd have: B'lieve the Stasi agent winds up empathizing w/the couple he's surveilling, yes.

But if anything, I'd sez the Stasi agent is more "in love" (inna Platonic sense) w/the man than the woman. There's a lotta ambiguity at differnt intervals throughout, 'n a body ain't just sure who's gonna betray whom, for what, when.

And bein' "in love" ain't really what's animatin' the Stasi agent, toward either the man or the woman, imo.

The agent were formerly an ascetic, severe, horrifyingly humorless bureaucratic ideologue, the kinda guy what blandly instructs his students in "extreme interrogation methods" (U.S. torture methods was adopted directly from the Soviets' 'n their satellites' practices, course) and the self-justifying virtues of Orwellian double-speak ("If a prisoner b'lieves the state capable of detaining him for no reason, well, a-course that belief alone is enough to justify his arrest and detention!").

The Stasi agent is the kinda guy what mistrusts most ever'one, but specially artists, on principle (tho' must sez: the meticulous devotion 'n dotin' care the agent lavishes on his surveillance operation suggests a stifled creative desire seekin' expression; you are what you hate and you hate what you are).

To me, tho', the agent's motives were more of admiration and a new-found respect for the couple's heretofore unacknowledged humanity, and sympathy for the man's relatively new struggle against the omnivorous thrall of the police state (of which the agent is an integral part, course), 'n couple this with the agent's empathy-induced regret 'n shame for his own participation in that oppressive horror.

In my viewin', the Stasi agent's acts is them's not of love but of atonement.

At first, the agent just sees another guy to get the goods on. But then a funny thing happent on the way to the inquisition. The agent starts to stealin' the couple's poetry books, falsifies his reports to headquarters, 'n seeks out the woman during his off-hours for anonymous encounters.

It's poignant 'n movin' as hell when this rigid dreary eavesdroppin' autonomaton breaks down 'n weeps bitterly, convulsively, self-mortifyingly whilst listenin' in to the man play the piano.

The agent discovers, albeit belatedly, that he, too, is a human bein'. The man is no longer his faceless enemy, but a wronged human being. And the agent is no longer an unfeelin' robot, but a man whose heart has been opened by this perverse one-way intimacy he shares w/the couple.

And so when confronted w/the choice of passively allowing life-destroyin' harm to befall the couple or actively doing what he can to circumvent that harm (even at considerable risk to himself), suddenly the agent finds himself sabotaging the efforts of the police state of which he is a member in good-albeit-eroding standing -- sabotaging the very fruits of his own labors.

There's a strong sense of the transformative power of art at play here, which, in truth, is prolly largely wish-fulfillment (most Stasi agents prolly woulda laughed at the prospects of such an outcome), but so what? Injustice anywheres is only ever repudiated by the coalescence of small acts of rebellion ever'wheres.

(Should sez for them's what ain't seen it: the man is a playwright and the woman is an actress; they is lovers. Film takes place in pre-glasnost East Berlin in 1984; no symbolism, there, a-course.)

One of the lines that lingers in my mem'ry (partly on account a it's powerful in context 'n partly b/c it is representative of our times) is spoke after the Berlin Wall falls 'n the Stasi is dissolved. The playwright is gotta new premiere, and one of the former party bigwigs is in attendance. They two makes small-talk at first, but the discussion grows in portent. The party bigwig is a man who used his intimidating coercive influence to sleep w/the playwright's girlfriend and who once wielded the power of the police state w/merciless impunity. The playwright sez in summation to the former political functionary (in paraphrase):

"I almost cannot believe that we were once ruled by pigs like you."

Innerestin' aside: I recall readin' that the film's director observed the followin' (again, in paraphrase; mem'ry like a sieve):

"Westerners tend to view my film as a thriller. Easterners (i.e. East Germans) tend to view it as therapy."

It's a film that gets in yer head 'n lives another life there for a spell. Or it did mine, anyways.

'N it forcefully depicts how freedom 'n liberty 'n privacy ain't no abstract concepts 'n ain't taken for granted nomores once they is been lost to a power-hungry guv'mint what's ostensibly tryin' to "protect" its citizens when it is in fact only tryin' to protect itself.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 11:41am.
You must be kidding! You are so lucky to even have trolls. Do you know how run down this blog is? 10 regulars posting drug induced art and personal messages...
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There is an old joke, usually applied to women, that goes like this.

Wife: "Yech. This milk is spoiled. Here, taste it."
Husband: "I'll take your word for it."
Wife: "No--really. Taste it."
Husband: "If it's spoiled, I don't want to taste it. Why don't you taste it again?"
Wife: "If you believed me, you wouldn't make me taste it again."
Husband: "I believe you and you don't have to taste it again."
Wife (takes another sip): "Yech. This milk is spoiled. Here, taste it."

on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:07pm.

yes, well... but we are at least clean....

Why do you keep trying?

Ever hear the sound of one hand clapping.

You're jokes stink. That's why you're reduced to posting them to obscure blogs.

Get some new material.

From 'Home Movies':

Paula: What were you saying?
Brendon: Can we move the flowers?
Paula: Before that.
Brendon: This meatloaf is dry.
Paula: Before that.
Brendon: This is meatloaf?
Paula: Before that.
Brendon: This fish is dry.

Might as well be writing in pig Latin.

featuring:
Brendon Small(guitar, vocals)
Mike Keneally(guitar)
Bryan Beller (bass) & Gene Hoglan (drums)

Also performing:
...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead

October 29, Albuquerque, NM, Univ. of New Mexico
October 31, Las Vegas, NV, UNLV
November 1, Los Angeles, CA, UCLA
November 2, Berkeley, CA, UC Berkeley
November 3, Santa Barbara, CA, UCSB
November 5, Fort Collins, CO, Colorado State
November 7, Minneapolis, MN, Univ. of Minnesota
November 11, Boulder, CO, CU Boulder
November 13, Carbondale, IL, Southern Illinois Carbondale
November 15, Norman, OK, Univ. of Oklahoma
November 17, Lawrence, KS, Univ. of Kansas
November 18, Chicago, IL, Northwestern

Admission Free.

Yeah. Admission free. Are they insane? Yes they are.

UNLV, Hallowe'en. FREE. Kee-rist!

I like it. Does it drive anyone bad/crazy ?

Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:31pm.

CB, where are those obscure blogs (s)he is talking about ?

* Qualcomm Stadium, where more than 10,000 displaced residents sought refuge, is closing as an evacuation center today; it was home to just 350 people Friday morning. Officials say it will be ready for Sunday's San Diego Chargers-Houston Texans game, as scheduled.
* The reward for apprehending those responsible for the fires deemed to result from arson has been raised to $250,000.
* The Santiago fire has burned 26,000 acres. Together, all of the California wildfires have burned nearly 800 square miles, an area half the size of Rhode Island.
* In 2003, dozens of homes burned in the town of Julian, near San Diego. But Julian fire chief Kevin Dubler says Julian may escape this time with only minor damage.
* Of the 1,800 homes lost so far, 80 percent were in San Diego County. The property damage there alone has surpassed $1 billion.
* Air pollution officials in Bakersfield, Calif., are warning valley residents about poor air quality because of the Southern California wildfires. The warning will stay in effect for the next few days.
* The Navy, Marine and California National Guard helicopters were grounded for a day partly because state rules require all firefighting choppers to be accompanied by forestry "fire spotters" who coordinate water or retardant drops. By the time the spotters arrived, high winds made it too dangerous to fly.
* The National Guard's C-130 cargo planes were not part of the firefighting arsenal because long-standing retrofits have yet to be completed. The tanks they need to carry thousands of gallons of fire retardant were promised four years ago.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:48pm.

What do you mean might? I thought you were.

Submitted by bibimimi on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:37pm.
From 'Home Movies':
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Excellent. This genre of dialogue between mates is filled with unspoken/unwritten implications. Woody Allen made a career out of it. Here is a real-life example for which I never have had a come back.

She: "I don't want to talk about this anymore."
Me: "Why not?"
She: "Because you will convince me that I'm wrong."

http://www.samsedershow.com

Did you guys take the " SELECT A CANDIDATE survey "

Tells you which candidate agrees with your views / ranks all candidates according to your views

off the Digby site :

excellent

http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=259460

Submitted by jbenet on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:57pm.
CB, where are those obscure blogs (s)he is talking about ?
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My guess is all of them. (Note the date on the following.)

http://www.blogherald.com/2005/10/10/the-blog-herald-blog-count-october-...

The Blog Herald Blog Count October 2005: over 100 million blogs created
October 10, 2005 | By Duncan | Filed Under News

Its been three months since the last Blog Herald Blog Count due to the richness of the figures I’ve been collecting and the time its takes, but the Blog Count returns for October, and will now be published quarterly.

Now for the good stuff: the number of blogs in existence: over 100 million blogs

There are two sets of figures: based on major blog using countries the figure would be around 75 million, which is a patchy figure because its difficult to count blogs based on the country of origin due to the worldwide phenomenon of people using US companies. Based on blogs created at major hosts (a more accurate measure) the figure is actually 134-144 million. So I’m taking a round 100 million + blogs figure...

Larry Flynt, editor and publisher of Hustler magazine, just told FOX Business Network’s Neil Cavuto that he’s “hoping to expose a bombshell” that will stand “Washington and the country on its head.” Within the next week or two, he says his magazine will expose a sex scandal of huge proportions involving a prominent United States Senator. Flynt refused to comment on the Senator’s political affiliation, but alluded that he or she is a Republican.

Illiteracy is a major problem in America.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:07pm.
Make you you're goddamn mind!

you bitch, moan and complain when "their" not here.
Submitted by Peter Dragon on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 1:26pm.
Illiteracy is a major problem in America.

_____________________

There's no they're, their.

I'm busy making me my mind.

Here's a sentence from our troll....Sad!

Submitted by Peter Dragon on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 1:32pm.

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Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 12:07pm.

Make you you're goddamn mind!

_____________________

Is this what Dr. Frankenstein said inna fit a pique to his ungrateful monster?

Ah, well.

Your only as good a you're last yourll.

The Curmudgeon

As mentioned yesterday, this scandal involves neither Republicans nor Minnesota. The story (working title: Twilight of the Love Dolls) so far:

Man gets arrested in a Cedar Rapids public restroom- he was partially naked and lying next to a blow-up sex doll.

Fun Twist 1: Man with the same name has a "True stories of my drunken misspent youth" book out. An interesting coincidence, to be sure.

Fun Twist 2: The Des Moines Register adds this back-story to the news:

McCullough has a lengthy criminal record, including a 2004 conviction for burglarizing Just For Me bridal boutique in Cedar Rapids. Shortly after the burglary, officers found McCullough in a nearby alley, carrying a mannequin wearing a bridal dress.

Calvin & Hobbs dancing??? I wish I felt that good.

Anon: Pictures are great..they really show the devastation.

Good Noon all!!!

waiting for parts,

had a great day yesterdiddy.

gorguss day today

thanks for the pontiac pix page bud.

so on that loooooong ass quarter panel

the owner put in a 1/2 depth patch panel

and totally screwed the accent line, the 1/4

above and the 1/4 below... 12 feet of bondo at least!

no biggie. gotta take pix of this one though. unbelievable!

[sic]

I'm sick of their words and lies
Submitted by jbenet on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 11:30am.
I'm sick of their words and lies...

Lie Detector:
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Lesson 2 and beyond,Just about The Whole Bush Administration!!

Thx..jbenet ! :)
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist.

Morlock,moron or What?
I KNOW I've seen this movie!

trick-or-treat-make-your-own-creepy-larry-craig-mask

Thanks Kevin..
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Pundit: Hillary has the momentum

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Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic presidential nominee if she wins the nation's first primary contest, the Iowa precinct caucuses, predicts conservative political pundit Pat Buchanan.

"If Hillary wins Iowa, it's all over," Buchanan said Thursday during Northern Kentucky University's annual alumni lecture, in which he was paired with former U.S. Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle.

"I think Hillary is also the favorite even if she loses Iowa.

"She's got the resources and she's leading the polls in something like 38 states. She can lose Iowa and still win (the nomination), but Barack Obama can't lose Iowa and win."

Buchanan said the Illinois senator is the only Democratic candidate who can beat Clinton, but he must do well in Iowa.

"Obama can potentially set the country on fire, as some underdog candidates have done," he said. "But he's got to win Iowa because if he doesn't, I don't think he wins New Hampshire.

cat water boarding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZi5CvFIWfY

The Bush Administration intends to spend more money on “bullets, armored vehicles” and other necessities “for our troops.” Hundreds of billions of dollars will soon become trillions. Where is it all going? Offensive and Defensive Missile Systems? Bunker Busters? Bushfires blazing across the Middle East?

As a serial killer may want someone to stop his violent escapade, a Psychopath of
Great Magnitude may be trying to shift the blame for his debacle in Iraq. The Democratic Party apparently is more interested in promoting their leading candidate than preventing many more months if not years of senseless slaughter. If so, “the other white meat” should not be entrusted with power.

Congress can end its codependent relationship with the abusive Bush Administration by negotiating from a position of strength. Instead of providing funds for “good” things like counterterrorism, it must attach “unacceptable” conditions or stop funding the war.

In addition to all of the conditions which Congress might conceive, here’s a few more:
(1) For the “good of the country,” Bush, Cheney and all of their bully boys (and girls) must resign immediately and attend their long-awaited trials at the world court;
(2) Beginning with the Immaculate Deception until the Lackluster End, the Grand Scheme must be fully funded. When “the Haves and the Have-Mores” receive their itemized bill for Bush’s Boondoggle, they might finally “come to Jesus.” (Even with a draft and an enormous death toll, it took entirely too long to end the Vietnam War.)

In running up a huge debt, exhausting our military, and undermining essential civil liberties and human rights, the Bush Administration has become a grave threat to the United States of America and people all over the world.

DON’T PAY THE RANSOM --- SET OUR TROOPS FREE!

You people are really funny. You have nothing better to with your time than to go after typo's!

It's like throwing meat into a Piranha tank.

Better spell it rite.

that should keep you busy for the rest of the day.

[Thy] tongue outvenoms all the worms of Nile.

Taken from: Cymbeline

A simile of why Osama bin Laden is still alive.

Anon's a Moron,Can't Spell,Should be Masturbating at ManCoulter.com,and not here!

And,uses The Victim card always!
Poor little Trolly..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Trolly?

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

You want some spaces to go with that complaint?

by digby

Jonathan Schwarz at A Tiny Revolution notices that some extremely irresponsible politicians have been meeting with an aggressively anti-Israeli and anti-American middle eastern politician who says things like this:

• "We are all happy when U.S. soldiers are killed [in Iraq] week in and week out. The killing of U.S. soldiers in Iraq is legitimate and obligatory."

• In October 2003, after rockets were fired at the hotel at which Paul Wolfowitz was staying in Baghdad, that "We hope that next time the rockets will be more accurate and effective in getting rid of this virus and his like, who wreak corruption in Arab lands."

• That he felt "great joy" at the 2002 space shuttle Columbia disaster because one of the astronauts was Israeli.

• That the real axis of evil is "oil and Jews," and "The oil axis is present in most of the U.S. administration, beginning with its president, vice president, and top advisers, including Rice, who is oil-colored, while the axis of Jews is present with Paul Wolfowitz."

I feel a faint coming on, don't you? Click here to find out who it is --- and who is meeting with him.
Con't

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Hook, Line and Sinker

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 2:39pm.

You people are really funny. You have nothing better to with your time than to go after typo's!

It's like throwing meat into a Piranha tank.

Better spell it rite.

that should keep you busy for the rest of the day.

_______________

You has a kinda garish self-congratulatory (in-the-know!) air for pigeon-holin' folks into self-servin' categories unmindful a circumstances.

Can't speak for ever'body, but will sez this:

Typos abounds. Ever'wheres. Most times folks don't even notice 'em much less remark onnem.

But:

Combine a typo w/a 'zample of pathetic hackery or self-servin' swill or fatuous stupidity or pissy reactionaryism or hypocritical outrage or the like, 'n folks tends to perk up their ears 'n take notice.

The typo, imo, becomes a kinda lazy short-hand for makin' a general indictment, kinda like what Janeane usedta do -- 'stead a doin' the hard work a makin' the case, she'd hone in on signifiers what suggested the case.

Now, personally, I ain't never been one to indict a body for a typo nor condemn their intelligence for same. We all does the typo thing a-times 'n for all me, I expects typoes is good for a joke, but not much else.

There is times, tho', when a person's typo amplifies 'n underscores the inherent stupidity contained w/in the content.

Somes finds it damning 'n others finds it funny 'n somes finds it both.

But the overarchin' point is: The stupid content's the thing in which the typo bell rings.

"You cannot protect America in the long run if you fail to protect our Constitution"

by digby

This morning I took one of those tests * to determine which presidential candidate most closely reflects your views. I'm a liberal, as you know, with pretty orthodox views (except for perhaps a stronger civil liberties streak than some) so I expected that I would come up Kucinich, the person generally perceived to be the most liberal candidate. If a person's vote were based solely on their positions on the issues, I always figured he'd be my guy. (Of course the choice is more complex than that.)

But it isn't Kucinich. It's this guy.

And when I read things like this, it makes a lot of sense:

Mr. President, for six years, this President has demonstrated time and time again that he doesn’t respect the role of Congress nor does he respect the rule of law.
Con't

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

off to those rally things.

Keep beating your head anon, you come up with good original stuff.

: )

Todays Shakespearean insult
Submitted by jbenet on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 2:39pm.
[Thy] tongue outvenoms all the worms of Nile.

Taken from: Cymbeline

_______________

Thou gleeking tickle-brained wagtail!

Thou frothy whoreson fustilarian!

Thou frothy fool-born skainsmate!

Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.

Luv Ya

Expected better from you.

:(

Hahahahahahahaha. Now that is funny. That should be the AAR motto.

"stupid content's the thing"

Submitted by dr on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 3:02pm

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Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 3:14pm.

Expected better from you.

:(

__________________

I only wisht I knowed who you was so's I knowed if I's happy or sad to disappoint you.

All right, I will take the bait.

What did you expect better from me about 'n why is you (seemingly) disappointed?

Are the fools who cheered the stupic content as the new coming. Hahahahahahah. There are just a few left, but still funny.

It is much like the first thing you do when you find yourself in a hole. Hahahahahaha. But you guys just keep on diggin! Hahahahahahahahaha. The hole is damn deep now, and there a few of you left in here diggin, but it is sill a blast to sit on the edge, look down and laugh!

It's "here's your shovel"!

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

• In October 2003, after rockets were fired at the hotel at which Paul Wolfowitz was staying in Baghdad, that "We hope that next time the rockets will be more accurate and effective in getting rid of this virus and his like, who wreak corruption in Arab lands."

**************************************************

One thing Walid and I agree on, Paul Wolfowitz is a virus.

Thanks MMRules!

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 3:24pm.

It is much like the first thing you do when you find yourself in a hole. Hahahahahaha. But you guys just keep on diggin! Hahahahahahahahaha. The hole is damn deep now, and there a few of you left in here diggin, but it is s[t]ill a blast to sit on the edge, look down and laugh!

___________________

It's kinda funny and telling how you frame the 'Murican experiment as a prison chain-gang and cast yourself as the jeering trustee.

who in the world does that sound like?

Yous gots one guess.

A gem from Jesus' General

.

Link
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Just Breath

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/27/2007 - 3:48pm.

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Speakin' for myself, I'da infinitely preferred this mock-up if, 'stead a the "thumbs-up", it'd a had Bush givin' the more characteristic middle finger.

(And, yes, it'd a been purple.)

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com

http://operationyellowelephant.blogspot.com/

Thread

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November 4, 2004

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