Open

again, ha!

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I'm so used to it! The Indians haven't won

since 1948 when Harry Truman was in the White

House. Once again it's wait 'til next year.

The blog is a mess today. Just read the

previous thread and it seems as bad as it has

ever been. Some mean people coming in here

these days.

Are you OK buddy? Hows your neighborhood?

THE RADICAL LEFT OF AMERICA BETTER MOVE OVER BECAUSE THE 15% OF LOYAL AMERICANS ARE THE REAL MAJORITY AND IF YOU HATE THIS WAR AND AMERICA YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOREVER FROM BEING A COMMIE!!! YOU RADICAL LEFTY RACE TATERS CAN NOT WIN THE AMERICA OF IT FROM US MAJORITERS! WE ARE THE WINERS AND YOU ARE THE LOOSERS AND THAT IS FROM BEING FOR SATAN!

DAMN YOU FREQUENTLY, AND ALL YOUR RADICAL LEFTY WAR-HATERS! OF SATAN!

Paid For By The PATRIOTERER '08 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN

Congrats on the Sox winning. I was wrong about

Trot. He didn't help us at all. You can have

him back now! LOL!

They rock..

Sam, you guys ever come up with a name for that thing with Maron?

I still think you should call it "Floppy & Crabmeat"... but I'm guessing it's not a shared sense of delight.

We lost but I didn't kill myself.
Submitted by Peter Dragon on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 7:45pm.
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There's still time. Keep eatin' them partially hydrogenated fats.

Meaning?

Peter,

It's a really slow suicide method for the squeamish self-doer-inner.

frijol peruano w/chorizo? :)

Nice model you have going on there sticky fingers.

MMRules!!!!
new
Submitted by Brett on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 7:47pm.
Are you OK buddy? Hows your neighborhood?
*******
Thanks for asking,Brett !
No cable TV..But,the internet is working for some reason?
We have the Cable bundle deal..

San Diego's buring again..How's LA doing ?
I guess I could turn on the Radio,Duh!! ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

fires nearby MMR?

Not feeling well tonight. See ya all later. PD

Peter. It's too damn cold in Texas.

http://channelsurfing.net/watch-cnn.html

I see you're still here. There has been a particularly nasty troll around today. Please read the last thread, and then ban that fucker. Pretty Please. :-)

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 7:47pm.
WE ARE THE WINERS...AND THAT IS FROM BEING FOR SATAN!

I had to respond. I just couldn't help myself because I'm loose.

from the old Irish joke, OF A TUESDAY
or
FIRETRUCKS ON THE HUDSON

Looking forward to tomorrow's show, see you then.

woot!

Sam read the Last Thread ? Would be great!

Unfortunately Sam Considers such things as Troll abuse as trivial!
Don't ask me why..

I guess if it doesn't have a IM in front of it,he won't bother!

Sorry Sammy..But,Many folks here have asked you to do Something about the trolls,
But,No Action..

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Hillary Clinton defends Iran vote

By Toby Harnden in Washington

Last Updated: 2:55am BST 22/10/2007

Hillary Clinton, under fire from her Democratic rivals who claim she is a hawk on Iran, has dispatched a message to voters insisting she is "opposed to letting President Bush take any military action" without the approval of Congress.

Wasn't Cheney overseeing exercises in Phoenix and Portland last week? With the National Guard in Iraq, hasn't a Blackwater camp moved into the San Diego area? And wasn't Blackwater booted out of Iraq recently?

Elvis is back for Hillary's birthday bash

· Costello chosen to pump up election funding drive
· Clinton seeks younger, hipper image remake

Ed Pilkington in New York
Thursday October 11, 2007
The Guardian

Hillary Clinton. Photograph: Charlie Neibergall/AP

Hillary Clinton is following in her husband's footsteps and turning to ageing British rockers as the solution to the personally and politically sensitive question of how to mark her 60th birthday.

Bill Clinton set the trend last October when he invited the Rolling Stones to headline at his birthday bash in New York's Beacon Theatre. Mrs Clinton has now decided to stick with the Brit baby boomer theme with her own birthday show at the same theatre, though she has chosen a younger man, in the form of Elvis Costello (who is a mere 53).

Let's see if those Bastards will help to Fight The Fires !!

Doubt That will Ever Happen !!

Hopefully their little Camp of Horrors will burn !

If it does burn,I bet they will be one of the first ones getting Federal Money
to rebuild !!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I have looked into it and banned some peeps. The back end on this thing makes banning a rather imprecise tool......

 If I happen to ban the wrong peeps... email me at samsedershow@gmail.com and state your case.

I was trying to set up the IM through AIM and I am not sure I succeeded. During the show I did reach a screen that asked for the IM. Is it like a chat room where everyone sees everyone else's IMs or is Sam the only one who gets to see the IMs? How would I know I've gotten through? Is there some sort of acknowledgement besides Sam commenting on the IM?

But,why do you have such problems banning Trolls?(The back end on this thing makes banning a rather

imprecise tool......)firedoglake,dailykos,etc..Seem to be able to do it without a huge problem?

But,thanks Sam for Finally doing something! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Good to hear from you.
Hello to all of the Sederites

CeeCee - did you put samsedershow in the area of Buddy List??

If I can say - it was getting rather annoying

I love San Diego. My heart aches for all in the area. Things can always be replaced, but people can't be. Evacuate when necessary.

If Sam shut out dissent, we wouldn't have had all those Dewey calls. With every call, Dewey demonstrates just how wrong conservatism is.

BTW - if Dewey ever loses his job, I hope he gets insurance that will actually cover his Crone's Disease. If not, he may see the light. We would loose WAYYYYYY too much entertainment if that happens.

Blackwater is in IL.
Mt.Carroll,IL.

Submitted by SEDER on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 8:42pm.
...The back end on this thing makes banning a rather imprecise tool... If I happen to ban the wrong peeps...
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DON'T TASE ME, BRO!

Unless he Trolls !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Has anyone heard how the animals are doing & the folks that care for them??

Yeow!
new
Submitted by Crank Bait on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 8:54pm.
Submitted by SEDER on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 8:42pm.
...The back end on this thing makes banning a rather imprecise tool... If I happen to ban the wrong peeps...
----------------
DON'T TASE ME, BRO!
*******
LOL

Crank is right now toasting ,"Ah,life is good".
Got to use the Taser line! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

My point is that we should not necessarily shut out conservative nutjobs. They often point out their stupidity better than we could. Of course, there are cases where banning them is the way to go. (Like the person who posted those infinite number of Hillary pics.)

of said it any better tom k.

MMRules,
It amuses me that Sam might be turning unlabeled dials and punching unmarked buttons only to have us disappear one by one.

just about everything East of me is burning!

This really sucks!

Many people,and Animals displaced! The Chargers Football [Footy for Ono ;) ] Stadium is being

used for a evacuation center..

The sun is going down..It's going to be a Bad night,unless the Damn Santa Ana Winds die down!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

it was an infinite number...that Hillary troll has no chops...same shit over and over..zzzz

SanDiegoZoo.com has updates on the fire and what precautions are being taken for the animals & staff.

Flirtin With Disaster

It doesn't matter whether Dewey blogs
Submitted by tom k on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:02pm.
My point is that we should not necessarily shut out conservative nutjobs. They often point out their stupidity better than we could. Of course, there are cases where banning them is the way to go. (Like the person who posted those infinite number of Hillary pics.)
*******
Hang around and Blog for more than 1 Day !

You will see what it's like !!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I don't need right wing nut jobs around to tell me how stupid they are. They're a scourge and have a big enough soapbox, as it is, hence our current situation.

IMO they should be banished to the backwaters like the Klan. That's where they belong, not here.

have you heard what the weather will be like(as far as the Santa Ana Winds are concerned)
my sister lived in Irvin & often spoke about those winds & mountains.
If you need anything please ...and I think I speak for most of us on this blog
LET US KNOW!!!

Obliviated By Mistake
Submitted by Crank Bait on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:06pm.
MMRules,
It amuses me that Sam might be turning unlabeled dials and punching unmarked buttons only to have us disappear one by one.
*******
I don't know no Sticking dials,and buttons !! (Just kidding Sammy ;) )

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

In support of trolls
new
Submitted by tom k on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 8:53pm.

If Sam shut out dissent, we wouldn't have had all those Dewey calls. With every call, Dewey demonstrates just how wrong conservatism is.

*********************************

Tom, this is not about dissenting viewpoints, it's about abuse. Deeply personal attacks on the women of this blog should not be defended as "free speech." Sam allows dissent more than any other blog I know of. These troll attacks are no better than yelling fire in a crowded theater.

MMRules
new
Submitted by smcgee43 on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:13pm
*******
The weather guy says light Santa Ana winds tonight..

But,another channel(cable tv came back on)is showing

The Santa Ana winds Picking Up !

So who knows! I think it's going to be bad..But,I'm Irish..History has taught us

to watch our backs !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

tom k
new
Submitted by Brett on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:19pm.
In support of trolls
new
Submitted by tom k on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 8:53pm.

If Sam shut out dissent, we wouldn't have had all those Dewey calls. With every call, Dewey demonstrates just how wrong conservatism is.

*********************************

Tom, this is not about dissenting viewpoints, it's about abuse. Deeply personal attacks on the women of this blog should not be defended as "free speech." Sam allows dissent more than any other blog I know of. These troll attacks are no better than yelling fire in a crowded theater.
------------------------------------------
Yes..I can take a F*ck you or two!

But,F*uck you to the Ladies is over the line....But,it keeps happening !! :(

And,these jerks don't want to discuss the issues!They just spew crap!Mostly over and,over again!!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Sam doesn't want to play God so he doesn't ban the trolls.

I think it's like a Jewy thing. Is playing God blasphemy? Anyone know?

*snark*

Submitted by smcgee43 on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 8:50pm.
CeeCee - did you put samsedershow in the area of Buddy List??

I did but I don't know if it took. I'll have to get into it again and check it out.

I've heard Blackwater is in New Orleans, Michigan, North Carolina, and now Illinois. San Diego was fighting it but I never heard if they were successful in keeping Blackwater out. It was right around the time that they announced possibly flipping KLSD, which I'd listen to in the morning since Sam moved to Sundays (still makes me upset thinking about that), so I never heard the outcome if there was one.

stay away from my scrotum, trolls!!

I've been around for a long time. (I was reading the blog back when Janeane would regularly yell at Sam for reading the blog during the show. And I gave out Majority Report coffee cups for Christmas one year.) Maybe it's just that my skin is think enough that trolls don't bother me.

I'm sorry to bother you, but I'm worried about some people in Tecate, Mexico and Tijuana, Mexico. Friends of mine but they don't speak English and I have no way to contact them without driving down there. Are the fires going down that way? I heard there was ash...

I can't use my registered ID because then some here would know who I am, so forgive my Anon-ness and please respond if you know. Muchos appreciados!

Thanks.

How about new rules.

Instead of attacking the troll we should ignore them. What if we pile onto the regular commenter for acknowledging their pathetic existence? Instead of attacking the troll, lets squash acknowledging the irritating ones. They come here with the intention of being acknowledged. Why bother.

I like when they make total asses of themselves with their juvenile banter. It shows who they are. We don't have to wrestle them in their pen.

Testing!!!!!!

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHMMMM!!!

I'm sorry to bother you, but I'm worried about some people in Tecate, Mexico and Tijuana, Mexico. Friends of mine but they don't speak English and I have no way to contact them without driving down there. Are the fires going down that way? I heard there was ash...

I can't use my registered ID because then some here would know who I am, so forgive my Anon-ness and please respond if you know. Muchos appreciados!

Thanks.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMM

Amen.

Oh, hang on a minute...
Does that mean I can't dangle marsupials in front of the roovert?

Submitted by tom k on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:27pm.
...Maybe it's just that my skin is think enough that trolls don't bother me.
------------
I've learned that if I am patient and willing to wait, a gold plated typo eventually pops up.

You're right. Your entire being is think enough to see beyond the emotionally stunted.

I was going to suggest that same thing. Lets just ignore the fuck. Don't post anything to someone like that.

MMRules on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:23pm.
new
Submitted by Fernando on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:31pm.
How about new rules.Instead of attacking the troll we should ignore them. What if we pile onto the regular commenter for acknowledging their pathetic existence? Instead of attacking the troll, lets squash acknowledging the irritating ones. They come here with the intention of being acknowledged. Why bother.
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I agree responding to them serves no purpose since I'm not totally convinced they can read and/or write, or comprehend it if they do. They are able to cut and paste by rote.

But sometimes I can't resist turning their own words against them when the opportunity presents itself.

Now this is free speech and dissent. Really Fernando, did you read what that sociopath was telling Annette and Lucille and toniD. If someone said that about your mother/sister/wife in your presence I'm sure you would pummel them bloody, I know I would, and I detest violence. There is a line for everybody.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/schedule.php?y=1995&t=CLE

CeeCee- I.M. Sam tomorrow while he is on with Marc. When Instant Messaged him I put in the message to just let me know that it was going through and he did.

Sam - give me a hello if this is coming on through.
He should answer you.

MMRules - 911 plz read! 2nd try...
new
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:39pm
***********
at all!
Unfortunately,all they are covering is the Rancho Bernardo,Rancho Santa Fe,San Marcos,Ramona etc..

I know there's a fire by the border,Del Zura,Tecate..But,I haven't seen anything on it since yesterday..But,out tv was out for most of the day.. Sorry !!

Dumb question..But,have you tried calling them..
If I understood Spanish,I would listen to the Mexican radio stations..I bet they have alot more news concerning the Border fire!Sorry..I'm a stupid Gringo.. :(

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Out of control and lots of people are without homes.

the IM format lets only Sam see IM's sent to him. If he would type a response (he never does, he's kind of busy with some kind of "show") you would see his and yours only.

Fernando and smcgee43 are spot on about the rude and crude - ignore them. Sinking to their level diminishes the argument that they have crossed the line - you may have just crossed it too.

I.M.ing Sam
Submitted by smcgee43 on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:50pm.

cee cee
Submitted by Brett on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:58pm.

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It helps to know what to expect or not.

I don't have the translator's phone number and the rest of them don't have phones. Or I would call...

I thank you for your response, and will pray for all your all's safety this evening. If you don't believe in that, then think of it as good karma/positive energy thoughts coming your way. :-)

Hang around and Blog for more than 1 Day
Submitted by tom k on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:27pm.
I've been around for a long time. (I was reading the blog back when Janeane would regularly yell at Sam for reading the blog during the show. And I gave out Majority Report coffee cups for Christmas one year.) Maybe it's just that my skin is think enough that trolls don't bother me.
*******
Things have changed since the Janeane days!!
Get a clue!
If ya blog just a couple times a month,a week etc..
Ya might not see the Troll abuse!!

If it was just normal anon same old stuff,it just gets old.
But obviously, you haven't been around enough to read the filth, spam, ugly crap they have been spewing!!
So go back to kos,or where ever you've been !
And,let us who blog here every day,deal with it !! Capish!!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

U.S. fires cloak Mexico border cities in ash
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 6:58pm.

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Raging wildfires in Southern California cloaked neighboring Mexican cities in a fog of suffocating ash on Monday, shutting schools and businesses and a major U.S.-Mexico border crossing.

The normally bustling city of Tijuana, just 20 miles (32 km) from San Diego County, where seven fires burned, virtually closed down as residents stayed indoors and those who ventured out walked around with paper masks over their mouths.

A thin gray ash covered houses and cars and blotted out the sun in the Pacific port of Rosarito and the city of Tecate, where U.S. and Mexican officials closed the busy border crossing.

"You can feel the heat of the fires from here. There's ash everywhere, it is falling like rain," said 33-year-old secretary Lorena Morales, who ran out to the pharmacy to seek anti-allergy medicines for her children.

The world's busiest land border crossing between Tijuana and San Diego remained open but many motorists sat uncomfortably for hours in the heat with their windows up and without air-conditioning to prevent ash coming in, witnesses said.

Southern California is in the midst of its driest year on record after rainfall just a fifth of average levels.

Authorities ordered at least 250,000 people to flee their homes on Monday because of the wildfires, which destroyed hundreds of buildings.

Thank you MMR.
new
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:03pm.
I don't have the translator's phone number and the rest of them don't have phones. Or I would call...

I thank you for your response, and will pray for all your all's safety this evening. If you don't believe in that, then think of it as good karma/positive energy thoughts coming your way. :-)
*******
I aslo really wish I spoke Spanish..I coulda helped you alot more!Again,really sorry!

If the TV news does finally report on the Border fire,I'll post it !!
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

http://www.radiolatina.com

http://www.tijuana.com

Hope this helps :-)

By the way I love your name.
Sometimes Sam will I.M. you - just one or two word answers. Not very often though.

For Border fire info !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

you do - that Southern California gets RAIN.

huh...what's the line now?

* Updated evacuation help In El Cajon
* Camp Pendleton urges families to prepare for evacu...
* Time-Warner briefly loses digital services
* Military families: Evacuation information
* Del Mar: Advisory evacuations listed
* NBC's Lauer and Williams to broadcast live from fi...
* Poway: At least 70 homes lost
* Fire on the east side of Fallbrook
* Carlsbad: Voluntary evacuation south of Airport Ro...
* Breeze buses to mostly operate on Sunday schedule
* Food safety tips offered
* To our readers: Newspaper delivery challenges
* Miramar evacuating some aircraft
* Rice Fire on both sides of Reche Road
* Voluntary evacuations underway in Chula Vista
* Cleveland national Forest closes to public
* Fallbrook fire sends residents fleeing to ocean
* Mandatory evacuation for Harbison Canyon and Crest...
* ICE prepares to evacuate Otay detention center
* Mesa Grande Indian reservation was evacuated
* Posts from earlier today

tijuana online
new
Submitted by Brett on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:08pm.
http://www.radiolatina.com

http://www.tijuana.com

Hope this helps :-)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMM!!!

Sweet...........

Sam's banning now?
Submitted by Alice on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:11pm.
huh...what's the line now?
*******
Don't stop Sammy now!
He might be finally doing something about the Troll/Anon abuse !!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Thank you, I loved the look on Sam's face the first time he tried to enunciate your nic when you IM'ed him. ;-P

I like to call 'em 'snoids'. Snoids were these little pathetic creatures in R Crumb comics that lived in persons assholes. They had no life of their own, and just liked to bother people - get into their thoughts and fuck with them.
The best treatment of the snoids is not to feed them. Ignore them, and they will eventually masturbate themselves into a drooling, flacid, semi-comatose state.

Be-Be!

Good evening, Nicky Rose... :)

How's it going...? Whattaya think about banning? Any opinions or no?

Oh, by all means do!!

When I read CNN’s latest story on the so-called “mistaken flight of nuclear warheads across the country”, I was shocked! Who is telling the truth? Is CNN publishing propaganda meant to calm international worries that Bush and Cheney are readying the military to attack Iran with nuclear weapons designed to penetrate targets deep underground, or has Global Research and Wayne Madsen published a story that is false? How are we, the American public, and people throughout the world, able to discern who is telling the truth?
...

San Diego 211 or

cell users 858-300-1211

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

An Unfolding Saga of Villains, Scapegoats and Heroes

seems the nail polish worked, eh. nice model plane.

by Scott Ritter

Don't worry, the White House is telling us. The world's most powerful leader was simply making a rhetorical point. At a White House press conference last week, just in case you haven't heard, President Bush informed the American people that he had told world leaders "if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing [Iran] from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon." World War III. That is certainly some rhetorical point, especially coming from the man singularly most capable of making such an event reality.

Pundits have raised their eyebrows and comics are busy writing jokes, but the president's reference to Armageddon, no matter how cavalierly uttered and subsequently brushed away, suggests an alarming context. Some might note that the comment was simply an offhand response to a reporter's question, the kind of free-thinking scenario that baffles Bush so. In a way, this makes what the president said even more disturbing, since we now have an insight into the vision, and related terminology, which hovers just below the horizon in the brain of George W. Bush.
...

One vote for no to banning (unless the Freepers try to flood the site). These mouth-breathing, knuckle draggers (borrowed from Janeane) are too entertaining in their ignorance. If nothing else, they give regular example of the sickness of the Neocon,Straussian,death cult's base.

tanks bud!

got a nice post from Del.

ain't seen him in decades! good ol fart.

i forgot all about those!

R Crumb had em down pat. there was a guy with some strange groupies.

.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Hey dumb ass!

While you were busy bitching, whining, and moaning about anon's

An Anon was busy posting all the information you're re-posting.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

currently 4 users and 12 guests online.
Online users

* MMRules
* Sunshine Jim
* Brett
* Crank Bait

Who is Wrong, CNN or Wayne Madsen at Global Research?
new
Submitted by Alice on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:21pm.
When I read CNN’s latest story on the so-called “mistaken flight of nuclear warheads across the country”, I was shocked! Who is telling the truth?

Taking nuclear weapons off the shelf isn't like taking a case of sodas when no one is looking. And CNN is no longer using "your trusted source" for news any longer. That was sooo yesterday.

>>How are we, the American public, and people throughout the world, able to discern who is telling the truth?<<

I trust the people who have been proven to be telling us the truth. That certainly DOES NOT include CNN. They have been carrying water for the administration since day one. They regularly tilt a story to the benefit of those in power. Yes, they are better than Faux News, but only by degrees. Instead of the bold face falsehoods, they lie by omission, by their choice of 'experts', and by emphasizing certain language. Their lying is only somewhat more sophisticated.

good catch A.!

think Doc Salla figgerin it out just fine.

scary shit behind the scenes eh? we bomb Iran and you can kiss americas economy goodbye.

thing is i figger that's exactly what they want to do.

.

A Very Good Link For all the San Diego Fires,too..Hope this helps!

Fire Info Link-CBS8 San Diego

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

What is it with your attitude? Who died and made you the god of the blog? Try some Preparation H, and stop trying to sound important (or was that impotent?).

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:32pm.

Hey dumb ass!

While you were busy bitching, whining, and moaning about anon's

An Anon was busy posting all the information you're re-posting.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

...........................................................

...your dreams have come true, he's back.

Get out of the way !
Submitted by MMRules on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:31pm.

Please.

Submitted by Brett on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 9:44pm.
...If someone said that about your mother/sister/wife in your presence I'm sure you would pummel them bloody...
----------
(Forgive me, ladies, for the following.)

It isn't the insults or who is insulted or the foul language that I find depressing and sigh producing and boring.

It is that anyone would bother to strive to be a consummately annoying and disruptive asshole on this or any blog. What's the point?

I have no problem with differing opinions. I don't mind being told that it is people like me who screw up America or the planet, provided that it is an honest opinion and is accompanied with some sort of reasoning to back it up.

I think that Gare missed the boat by having created his obnoxious blog persona to present his opinions, but at least he makes an attempt at something more inventive than "I fucked your mother today." And occasionally Gare actually explains his viewpoint, though it's rare.

There are others who have absolutely no intent to contribute anything other than obnoxious abuse in print...presumably so that they can read their own handiwork on the World Wide Web.

Do they really think that writing "Crank Bait is never funny" or "Chubby is a danger to society" will crush us? Certainly not. They just want to put it out there.

I assume that they are kids or that they are emotionally kids. Apparently they believe that they can write something more shocking than has ever been written before? Or that being banned from a number of websites is a badge of honor?

What a waste of grey matter.

Submitted by MMRules on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:23pm.
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:32pm.
Hey dumb ass!

While you were busy bitching, whining, and moaning about anon's

An Anon was busy posting all the information you're re-posting.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

your comments relevant crank bait?

If you would stop singling out the anon's maybe they'd stop what you consider abuse.

You're pretty abusive a lot of the times.

What about bridge?

You all blame that on an Honest anon.

You're just pissed you got caught.

Or maybe you're the shit stirrer. You can post anon and since you complain about slow loading pages my guess is that you use a proxy server.

I'd have to be able to find it first.

did you see all that guitar music? I got some good ones there...the Deerhunter music..some Bach and a beautiful Vivaldi...

Man, one of these days I'm going to type page 27-31 of the Vivaldi's Virgins book..I'm so enjoying this...Today I read about Handel and Scarlotti having a harpsichord-off for the King of Norway (who is really the King of Denmark in disguise..) :) Fun book...

seeing.a.pattern.developing.

the troll participation chases off posters

they brag about getting the kids on the wingnut sites to dump on us.

there are organised "war rooms" we've written about for years here.

we've been DOS'd more than once.

losing our tempers does'nt accomplish much other that to satisfy them that they can mess with us

the only thing we can do is rise above it or at least keep our sense of humour when we respond.

did i miss anything?

I'm so grateful my house didn't burn this Summer...or at all..fire is too scary...Poor people and animals....

love ya for posts like that!

thanks!

what makes
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:49pm.
your comments relevant crank bait?

By signing them.

yes, that you post anon to stir the shit.

Militarizing Anthropology
By Dina Rabie, Tamer El-Maghraby, IOL Staff

Anthropologists are already embedded with six US military teams in Iraq and Afghanistan.

CAIRO ? A US military program recruiting anthropologists to be embedded with units in Iraq and Afghanistan is meeting stiff opposition from anthropologists as an attempt to militarize the discipline and weaponize scientists in the service of Washington's so-called war on terror.

"We are deeply concerned that the 'war on terror' threatens to militarize anthropology in a way that undermines the integrity of the discipline and returns anthropology to its sad roots as a tool of colonial occupation, oppression, and violence," Roberto J. Gonzalez, an anthropology professor at San Jose State University and a campaigner, told IslamOnline.net in an email interview.

The US Department of Defense (DoD) is recruiting anthropologists under the Human Terrain System (HTS) program to study social groups in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The program first started on a small scale in 2006 and now has six teams, each including at least one anthropologist, embedded in combat brigade units in both Muslim countries.

Each team member, who wears the uniform and receives mandatory weapons training, costs the Pentagon $400,000 a year, including the cost of kidnapping insurance.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has allocated $40 million dollars to expand the program, challenged by veteran anthropologists, to increase the number of teams to 28.
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Combine 2 things you love most, a cat and music, and you get...

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1313416&fr=yvmtf

ya?

prove it!

(this must be Anonaknowitall)

???With a fake name?

You're a nut job.

anonymous is a nic just like crank bait is a nic.

he didn't sign anything.

None of you did.

Only Seder who posts as Seder is recognized as a signed user.

I wish I could see it right now...I will gladly thank you today for a video tomorrow.. :)

main thing i wanna know

is who to hit up for babysitting them.

where'd you go?

It's a cat with a vocal chord condition that sings when it yawns. LOL Its really cute, found by one of my children on the net.

and do

"index of" mp3

that gets a lot of hits - or you can put in your band or song or artist and you might get one from them...

*

in altavista.com you can type

url:mp3

and you'll get sites with mp3 in the url...

I learned some of that from a link Dar put up yrs ago..

that is so sweet of both of you for responding to that Anon's concerns with the Mexico friends! I'm sure he/she appreciated it very much!

you reminded me that I wanted to see the funny video from Meg..I'll have to backtrack and find it again...

.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:49pm.
"...If you would stop singling out the anon's..."
[[I don't. You are putting words in my mouth and this is not the first time that you have erroneously made that claim. I do not single out Anonymous posters. I couldn't care less about your crusade to be unknown. Whether signed Anonymous or by chosen name, my complaint is with obnoxious assholes who have no intention to be anything other than obnoxious assholes.]]

"...You're just pissed you got caught..."
[[If a jerk gets his rocks off by following me around and re-posting what I write, that's his doing, not mine.]]

"Or maybe you're the shit stirrer. You can post anon and since you complain about slow loading pages my guess is that you use a proxy server."
[[You would be wrong on all counts.]]

but I'll bet that people who speak Spanish know when to run from fire too... (just a bad joke..sorry in advance...)

You self appointed yourself.

then you post anon so you can feel relevant.

you're a sheep in sheep's clothing.

"we serve"

is a pretty good motto.

my sis is right in the middle of the whole bazoo.

That particular one wasn't.
That was just another shit-stirrer.

I used to argue for anonymous comments. F'rinstance someone who enjoys SEDER's show and wants to drop off an opinion or a suggestion shouldn't need to register and wait for an email. Anonymity should encourage more participation. Well, the rotten apples have accomplished the opposite and have driven away valued participants with and without nics. You won't read me defending anonymous comments again.

Cthulhu '08

grab a nap kid, yer amping.

Love

SJ

By signing them.
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:01pm.
???

I registered my nic as did Crank Bait. As far as I know you can too.

Since I registered CeeCee and prefer to be called out by it whether you agree with me or not.

I have not seen the nic "Nut Job" on this blog before so it may be available for YOU to use.

Submitted by MMRules on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:45pm
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:50pm.
I'd have to be able to find it first.
*******

.

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

what fun there is in troll posts is twanging their 'rude bits' but i try to stop at being cruel.

as anonamacious at these kids are they are still real human beings, albeit lacking a sense of humor mostly.

Haiku W was a classic "troll" back in the old day when we had to hand crank our hard drives and walk 3 miles in the snow to post.

i miss em really! he had a superb sense of humor and irony and was'nt convincingly 'full of himself' and spouting day old talking points like warped parrot.

Why is that?

OMG
Submitted by CeeCee on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:41pm.
Get out of the way !
Submitted by MMRules on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:31pm.

Please
*******
But I did mean it that way for my Laura Bush Driving post! :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

anonymous is a nic just like crank bait is a nic.

No, it's not. As marginal as accountability gets around here, at least there's a smallish amount of accountability that goes along with a regular nic.

The posters here who can be bothered with identifying themselves with a nic are separate entities from the others. We are accountable for what we've said, because it's attached to our name. We have a history, built upon what we, as identifiable creatures, have said.

With "Anonymous" -- just who are you? What did you say previously? You are certainly NOT the only Anonymous who posts here, which, basically, renders you, as Anonymous, a transitory figment, based on nothing. You certainly can't be accountable for all that "Anonymous" posts. In fact, since there can be several Anonymous posting at the same time, how on earth would anyone be certain of just who they are posting or replying to? Maybe a better question is why on earth would anyone bother to reply to a lazy Anonymous?

For all it's worth, you're a dime a dozen, an ephemeral figure unaccountable for your words, in any of the ways we've established in this cyber-cafe.

This attempt at trying to validate an Anonymous posture is seen through by everyone. You just don't want to have to be responsible for your words.

The doctor who was treating the children who die of malnutrition, the reporter asked her how do you deal with seeing so many kids die? She said "..of course it breaks your heart it breaks your spirit I carry memories of many many children ....

You cannot indulge yourself in this kind of sadness. We need to do something about this.."

That is VERY similar to what Yoko said to Amy Goodman the other day..about negativity being a luxury...

--This place has 5-10 users
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:31pm.
Why is that?--

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:01pm.
anonymous is a nic just like crank bait is a nic.
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Not true. There are several (and potentially infinite numbers) of the former while there is only one of the latter.

It is possible to build a catalog of my writings and opinions, which you have obviously done, because they have a definite author. At best, I must guess when an Anonymous author is the same Anonymous author who wrote something prior under Anonymous.

A unique name enables readers to continuously paint a more precise picture of the thought processes and experiences of the author.

Obviously you don't find that pertinent except as the advantage it gives you over others. It is an advantage you use nefariously. Frankly, you need every advantage you can get.

is why none of the trolls use a sense of humor to fence with us?

this is a radio show fan site for a bunch of cutting edge comics (i miss janeane), that tends to advocate political awareness and commentary.

when they get on and blurt negativity it's sad, worse than that it's so boring i tend to skip over and ignore them and tha's really sad because i believe everyone should be able to make a comment and be heard (or read).

...The Librarians

wow. What a picture and what a disaster.

It's beginning to look a lot like Katrina.

Books for the Ages, if Not for the Best-Seller List: The List compiled in strict secrecy to prevent cheating by publishers and authors, is not a completely accurate barometer of what the reading public is buying, and it has generated controversy from time to time. The novelist James Patterson has more work on the list than anyone else... How is it put together? How accurate is it?

Cthulhu '08

You cannot indulge yourself in this kind of sadness. We need to do something about this.."
That is VERY similar to what Yoko said to Amy Goodman the other day..about negativity being a luxury...

Hi Alice,
I just read somewhere (was it here?) that our thoughts can change our chemistry, and so we have to be very careful about what we experience. I can't imagine what kind of control you'd have to separate your experiences enough to not let it get to you.

Hmm..Stewart Alexander is now the Vice Presidential candidate...Can he legally run for that AND for President from the Peace and Freedom Party at the same time?

I did not see that...I just looked it up.

Is *this* the story you're referring to?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/19/60minutes/main3386661.shtml

It sounds like they've found a potentially strong weapon to fight malnutrition.

Might I add, raising my children and seeing them side by side with my husband's nieces and nephews, the stark contrast in skin tone and build was always a constant reminder to me that malnutrition is right here where we live. He's got a sister with alcohol issues, who, if I'm not mistaken, raised her children on ketchup and french fries and little else. It affects everything from IQ to height. It's sad, really.

http://www.kusi.com/-TV San Diego

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

member what her faces best sellers that were being disposed of by the palletfulls...

best sellers!

but not neccessarily read by anyone.

9/11 isn't the first topic Bill has gone along with Bush Admin. His behavior last Friday night was disconcerting, and frightened me especially when he repudiated free speech, which brings us around to our discussion tonite.

IMHO, if you want to say something you're free to do so (my line is threats), just own it.

But,this is Sam's World, we're just in it. I happen think Sam is wise enough to trust his decisions.

i took care of a kid who commonly was left in a flea bag hotel room with a loaf of wonderbread and a box of sugar.

I don't think of it as not letting it get to us... I think of it as experiencing the feelings then not staying there..I guess...

I don't think we can't not let it get to us - it does.. or it doesn't for some - I think that's the point maybe, the things we think and then feel physically change our biology...I think these two women are saying, in part, YES THINK ABOUT, YES FEEL IT, then DO something. Don't stay buried in the bad feelings. I don't know..that's how I see it...There's no IF your thoughts/feelings/emotions affect your physical body...there's lotsa proof from what I have read..Others may disagree and that's cool too..(obviously)

then the trolls around here are like:

Mercedes,

Lexus,

Cadilacs

Hummers!

(take your pick)

our experience too.

also we have a person who scans booklists...that one included and we maked buying decisions based on it...

like to go on about how great they are.

every once in a great while there is a meritorious anon I'd like to thank, not usually.

I rarely make the effort I should to say thank you to the many regulars. You guys give me hope in what America is really all about.

the guy would have to be an idiot to allow audience members to `protest' or `demonstrate' during his show...people did not tune in or buy tickets to hear some other audience member...

If you don't like his views or his show, don't watch.

But, ultimately, it IS his show...

Jim, I think when/if they develop a sense of humor they cease to be trolls. Our trolls think they are funny but the "humor" is usually "I belong to a bigger group than you" or "FU!" style. Eh. Not my cuppa. Not that I don't enjoy an occasional STFU graphic...

Cthulhu '08

Love Malloy.

we make it what it is.

i'm here for us all, Sam is our well intentioned slum landlord.

We could pool some money and send some Plumpy Nut...

currently 8 users and 18 guests online.
Online users

* Annette
* Sunshine Jim
* Brett
* red
* Cat Chew
* Chubby Bubba
* Fernando
* Alice

I'll take your word for the well-intentioned part...

but, hey, you can't beat free rent!

this weather pattern is so depressing
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/weather/sat-pacific-640x480-loop.html

No rain clouds for many many miles. I'm looking for a wind speed map.

Submitted by Cat Chew on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:17pm.
...the rotten apples have accomplished the opposite and have driven away valued participants with and without nics. You won't read me defending anonymous comments again.
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I have given this some thought recently. You might recall that I have always been in Sam's camp regarding censorship and anonymous postings...within limits not far flung from Sam's stated limits.

I have stopped myself from writing about anonymous posts many times recently. I stopped myself because I no longer choose to defend anonymity but I don't want to condemn it either.

You stated it nicely, so I'll use your words:

"...someone who enjoys SEDER's show and wants to drop off an opinion or a suggestion shouldn't need to register and wait for an email. Anonymity should encourage more participation."

I hate registration. It dissuades me from commenting on other sites. On the other hand, I would never use an Anonymous signature for the purpose of being an obnoxious annoyance.

So I find myself in a Solomon-like quandary of supporting no-registration comments but wanting to hand half-a-baby back to an Anonymous asshole.

bladerunner: the blog.

I always wondered about that - the NY Times Best Seller's List that is. So if that list isn't right, is there a list that does keep track of sales?

That a chatroom that has been around for 4 years only has 10 users. Are you sure you want to run the anons away? It would be a sad lot that is left over.

yes they are.

It's all perspective.

Here's a new contender for my favorite headline ever: "Sex, Drugs and Bombs: Confessions Of A Librarian": Places where children are kept calm in storytelling corner, dads can escape the chaos of home to do the Sunday crossword and students can find the silence they need to get on with their studies. Certainly not places where drug dealers hide their stashes and flashers lurk in waiting for their unsuspecting victims. But that's exactly the kind of thing Don Borchert has experienced in his 10 years as a librarian in California.

or half-a-asshole back to an Anonymous baby..?

maybe?

and tha's really sad because i believe everyone should be able to make a comment and be heard (or read).

Graffiti's graffiti, and there's a time and place for it. You hit and run. Graffiti engages on a different level than conversation. All anonymous posts can really only be taken as graffiti. How on earth do you know if the next Anonymous who replies to you is in fact the one you posted to? You don't. They are the bog graffiti

A conversation, even between strangers, relies on the fact that you are indeed speaking to the same person you were speaking to a moment ago, and can reasonable assume you will be speaking to again in the future. You know this because they have a name and a history of posts.

What makes us each a separate person, an actual person? Our history. We didn't just come welling up from the void anew each and every second. We are a continuum.

It's baffling why this particular Anonymous wishes to announce the number of posters every few minutes (assuming it's the same Anonymous - which you can't). What it's reporting does in fact bolster my argument that there are too many anonymous posters to be able to make them be responsible for their words.

It's also pointless to pick out that bit of information... why not post something else that's obvious - like the time?

He picked a fight about truth and 9/11 when he called people who believe in physics "crazy". That was a dim way to go and I'm guessing he was going for getting the attention. I'm wondering if it isn't staged.

The 9/11 truth movement is real and calling them crazy was silly to the point of the absurd. We all have questions about what REALLY happend. He had to have ulterior motives.

It's called Plumpy Nut

new
Submitted by Alice on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:58pm.
We could pool some money and send some Plumpy Nut...

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Actual ingredients: vegetable fat, peanut butter, skimmed milk powder, lactoserum, maltodextrin, sugar, mineral and vitamin complex.

lactoserum = whey protein....

Sounds really good. Americans should love it. SAomeday we'll get our turn on plumpy nut.

You Are What You Eat

But when it comes to thoughts and feelings and experience, it's always someone else's fault?

a disruptive audience member took it apon himself to interupt Maher's show.

what the guy was talking about is irrelevant.

You all have seen that 'user' list grow to like 50 users whenever Sam's on the air? I know I have. People get bizzy is all..

See you guys later.

Certainly not places where drug dealers hide their stashes and flashers lurk in waiting for their unsuspecting victims. But that's exactly the kind of thing Don Borchert has experienced in his 10 years as a librarian in California.

Oh, the stories I could tell.

Air America gone from Austin airwaves

By W. Gardner Selby | Monday, October 22, 2007, 11:16 AM

Air America, the home for defiantly liberal talk radio, has quit Austin’s air waves, though it can still be heard online or on XM Satellite Radio. Its previous broadcasting home in Austin, KOKE 1600 AM, has started following a Spanish-language format.

Dave Kaufman, Air America’s vice president of affiliate relations, said Monday the shift happened last week as part of an expected change in station ownership. “Definitely disappointed,” Kaufman reacted. “Whenever we lose any affiliate, it’s disappointing. This was an affiliate better than many, not as good as others. And in a state capital, it’s tough” to take the loss.

A dismayed blogger dug up Arbitron ratings suggesting low listener-ship on the Austin outlet: “Can’t even pull 1 percent in Austin, TX? Amazing but true. don’t ask me why. This is a city that is overwhelmingly Democratic, but the right-wing talk radio stations in town consistently get much better ratings.”

Kaufman played down the ratings, though, saying: “Many stations have better ratings, many have lesser ratings.”

Air America seeks another over-the-air home in Central Texas, but nothing is imminent, Kaufman said. He’d welcome local tips at his e-mail, dkaufman@airamerica.com . “If someone can point me to the direction of someone more amenable to picking up our format, I’ll take all the help I can get,” Kaufman said.

Permalink | Comments (9) | Post your comment Categories: Political history

Comments
By Bob

October 22, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Although I lean democrat, I won’t miss those endlessly preachy commercials, the screechy morning host, and the profound kneejerk-ism from both host and caller. What I learned from Air America is you don’t have to be conservative to be stupid.

By Jason

October 22, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

KOKE had no advertising budget.

It’s great programming and does extremely well on XM and Sirius.

By Angie M.

October 22, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

I stopped listening to Air America a long time ago - it got old very quickly.

By Joe G

October 22, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Best news I’ve heard all day!

By Brian Matthews

October 22, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!

By Robbie

October 22, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

The new station owners are switching to a Spanish-langauge format for one reason: it’s more profitable than a Liberal talk radio format.

Even in the Liberal oasis that is Austin —- and despite the fact that our AM stations are already dominated by Spanish-langauge stations —- I think this says more about Air America’s ability to compete in the market place of ideas than it does the new owner’s “desire” to change their format.

By bobjones

October 22, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Not a suprise. First of all, KOKE was a J-O-K-E. You could not hear the station very well even in the day time. Once the sun went down, forget about it. Also, Air America has struggled across the board. Once Franken left, it was all over. Bad talent. If your number one draw is Randi Rhodes, you are done. She is terrible. Worse than Savage, Limbaugh, and Hannity. she sounds like nails on a chalk board…

By naman

October 22, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

I listened to Air America once for about an hour. It was one of the most boring and depressing things I’ve ever heard on the radio. By the end of the experience, I wanted to steal some xanax and mail it to their radio personalities!!

Talk radio is about entertainment. You might not agree with conservative talk radio (like Limbaugh and his ilk), but it’s rarely boring.

By John Gillnitz

October 22, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Air America must have been powered by a hamster and a roll of tin foil. The ratings were bad because no one could get the signal.

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again

Bill Maher...
Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:56pm.

but watching him physically and vehemently get involved by running up into the audience and then give permission (or make a suggestion) to rough them up was the frightening part.

Ass, gas or grass, nobody rides for free.

long as he keeps posting a new thread i'll hang around.

but as far as this being free i don't agree.

i figger, at my going rate, i've contributed $289,314.33 in effort so far and have had 3 minutes of my 15 minutes of fame.

wheres my other 12 dammit? and when the fuck is our hopeless spacecase of a landlord gonna make the mugs available again?

sheeshassamighty!

I don't think of it as not letting it get to us... I think of it as experiencing the feelings then not staying there..I guess...

It's the experiencing the feelings that changes us chemically. It creates reality. You can't observe anything without affecting it, or being affected by it. That's what I was just reading. It's not about our will power or positive attitude, it's about chemistry within the brain.

so you think we should stockpile it until it's our turn?

I've been spending time in the downtown Seattle library lately.

the only drawback is you can only use a computer for 1 hour a day...which is not much time for job searches.

but it is a beautiful building!

I'm going to start checking out cds and dvds as soon as I get stabilized...it'll help replace the music collection that turned up AWOL a couple years back.

sams blog
Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:57pm.
we make it what it is.

i'm here for us all, Sam is our well intentioned slum landlord.

So am I.

aren't there thoughts in it?

aNNETTE!

too.. I agree...

It's called Plumpy Nut
Submitted by Alice on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:58pm.
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The article on 60 Minutes was my first exposure to "Plumpy'nut."

I wasn't sure that I heard it right? Plumpy Nut? Oh well (I thought to myself), they're humanitarians, not Madison Avenue marketers.

I wonder if Plumpy'nut has a more sonorous ring to it in French?
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http://www.answers.com/topic/plumpy-nut

"...The product was inspired by the popular Nutella spread. It is manufactured by Nutriset, a French company that specialises in making food supplements for relief work in their factory near Rouen in northern France..."

I hope Sam/Maron thing works tomorrow. ( a la maron has a good connection )

hey chubby bubba, glad youre back.

nobody's expected to 24/7.

Your're idealistic and opinionated...

two out of three ai't bad ;)

besides, you make more than enough sense.

Take Action !

Democrats in the Senate appear to have caved again to the Bush administration's fearmongering tactics. This time, they've negotiated a 'compromise' fix to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) sought by Bush that grants full amnesty to the telecom giants for participation in his illegal program to spy on Americans.

But why amnesty? Bush wants retroactive immunity for the telecom companies to thwart civil liberties lawsuits that threaten to expose his own lawbreaking. If these lawsuits aren't allowed to go forward, we may never know the extent of the Bush administration's illegal efforts to spy on American citizens without the required warrants.

Link-Please Sign The Petition ! Thanks !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

are you using now Chubby?

be back, Red.

hmm..that's my realm of responsibility...I've let people use it longer when they ask..I even let one girl use it with my own sign on so she could access the program she needed to...But you're right, I suppose we could be more flexible...Bump off some of those myspace people for job seekers... :)

laptop.

I can get to it once and a while....

I've got an interview tomorrow, hopefully that will get me the one step closer to the apartment I need!

"i'm here for us all, Sam is our well intentioned slum landlord.

So am I."

no kidding! any money in it?

What makes up your brain?
Submitted by Alice on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:14am.
aren't there thoughts in it?

Chemicals. Our feelings, emotions, thoughts, reactions... all chemistry. Even love - chemistry, pure and simple. Waves of chemical, electrical impulses, synapses...

How can a thought be a material thing? it can only be material - a real, physical thing - through electricity and chemicals.

Thanks for the heads up earlier thread. Have you all heard from MRR yet?? The Witch Creek fire was literally .. if I can go by the map at signonsandiego,com mere blocks from where Nik's folks live. I still haven't heard from him... but it isn't exactly like he probably isn't terribly busy dealing with live and death stuff!

last Friday nite.I like Bill - yet I do not agree with everything that he tinks.
I have to agree with Bill himself as to people came here to see the & hear debate with the guests & himself...
not audience members.
I did get a little frightened when he gave permission to rough up a member of the audience.

Here you are automaticly signed off. and the one hour a day applies to the entire seattle library system!

you can't log in anywhere after your hour!

Hope your doing fine ..

How's the job search? Nevermind, prob the last thing ya
want to talk about.

Good luck though!
Hang in there :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

how is the weather in that BEAUTIFUL city???
I love that city.

there an internet connection where you are staying? Chubby.

immensely

being able toe participate in four

or more

discussions at a time

and being able to miskuote and make

fun

of occasional mispelz and

sliding 's' turns of phrase.

like my kitten Melly..I've been giving her straight up half and half to get some fat on her...

I am not in my right mind right now. I didn't see your nick up there til I posted . I was looking for Toni to thank her! I am very glad to see you can post and are safe - Thank God!!!

kinda ruins the whole falling in love thing when you learn that it's all chemicals and electrical impulses. Unless you're a science nerd like I aspire to be. Then it's all great - God = Math, God's voice = music.

Now I don't believe in God, but I do believe in Science and Math and Music, although I love Einstein's quote: "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.

I think that was his sarcasm...I am surprised he didn't make a `don't taz me, bro' comment.

at any rate, it came off badly.

and frankly, the 911'ers didn't do their cause any favors by acting like `tin-foil-hat'-types.

Alice will we see a photo of your kitty???

that would be helpful, Chubbs...or I can look em up and call them...How many pc's for the public do they have about?

if there aint, this is really spooky

sams blog
Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:57pm.
we make it what it is.
i'm here for us all, Sam is our well intentioned slum landlord.
no kidding! any money in it?

Knowing you all are out there!

»

I agree with your comment on the 911'ers.
They did not do us or them any favors.

--How can a thought be a material thing? it can only be material - a real, physical thing - through electricity and chemicals.--

I agree...

how is the weather in that BEAUTIFUL city???
I love that city.

smcgee43 - weather's beautiful here today. Trees brilliant oranges, reds, golds, and butter yellows because of the short days and crisp weather, and you can see a half moon make it's way across the sky during the daytime. pretty cool stuff. Makes me sad I have no windows in my office.

Thanks for asking. How often do you get here? What part of the world are you in?

you need is a computer? You have internet access? You are already half way there.

I believe it is something written into the `log-in' code.

their system is probably a tad more sophisticated than your's...

the downtown branch has roughly 150 to 200 machines networked for internet/word/access. then there are probably another 100 or so for catalog searches.

then there are likely 2 dozen neighborhood branches, each w/ at least a dozen machines?

http://www.spl.org/

Submitted by Cat Chew on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:43pm

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:02am.
yes they are.
It's all perspective.

No. A consistent pseudonym is mos def dif than a pool of anon.
If you cannot tell the difference, I can't help you. I haven't got the time or energy to waste on nonsense these days.
________________________________________

I no longer choose to defend anonymity
but I don't want to condemn it either.

Crank Bait, elegant and that's exactly where I am.
Always a pleasure to read you.

Cthulhu '08

Submitted by Cathy in Seattle on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:22am.
...How can a thought be a material thing? it can only be material - a real, physical thing - through electricity and chemicals.
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Alls I needs is a battery daiquiri.

her brother Luke with their mouths open...I'll find that one...since you asked ;) How're your kittens? Can you post pics?

Melly and her sibling, Six Toes

Melly Aug 5th

I can't really set up my own computer here without looking like I am getting too settled in.

Blogging is a luxury.

Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:29am.
if there aint, this is really spooky
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The Rajah shoots and scores. Again.

material things require gravity.

I'm fairly certain reality does not require gravity.

you can blog on a psp, phone, any 802.11 appliance. You don't necessarily need a whole computer to blog. Just sayin.

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Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:40am.
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Fernando! You're punning! And you are doing it so well, my head is spinning.

Open
Submitted by SEDER on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 7:37pm.

Maron/Seder thing tomorrow at 11am and the VOD from last week should be up soon.
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A rare first edition of Oscar Wilde's The Importance of Being Earnest has been handed in to a charity shop. The book, which dates back to 1898, was discovered at the branch of Oxfam in Nantwich, South Cheshire - appropriately inside a handbag.

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Hey Toni ...
Submitted by wil_the_ersatz_... on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:23am.
Thanks for the heads up earlier thread. Have you all heard from MRR yet??
*******
I'm one of the lucky one's down by the beach..

Luckily I have Old Friends of the my Family that have a house in Coronado..I rent a room
from them since I had to go on S.S.disability..

And,they give me a very low rent..They like me for some reason?Hee!

No way you can even rent a room in
Coronado now a days,being on S.S.disability!
No matter what the Rethugs say !!

Enough about me!Crap!Hee again! ;)

These fires though,are Really bad!
Never seen so many,and so big!!

So many people,and animals in danger!Even NBC,CBS,ABC aren't showing the normal 2 1/2 men crap!
It's all Wall to Wall Fire coverage on TV now!

Some folks here are going to be taking clothes,food diapers etc..
to Qualcomm Stadium(Evacuation Center where The Chargers play)tomorrow..

Just pray the Damn Santa Ana winds stop for at least a couple of days..
So the poor Firefighters can get a handle on the fires!

Crazy,and Sad !

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

you know I couldn't do it intentionally.

A rare first edition of Oscar Wilde's The Importance of Being Earnest has been handed in to a charity shop. The book, which dates back to 1898, was discovered at the branch of Oxfam in Nantwich, South Cheshire - appropriately inside a handbag.

going to blog on my stupid pre-pay nokia phone!

it aint going to happen!

thing is mainly about time & how best to use it.

it is way too easy to get sucked into 10 or 16 hour stints of blogging.

I just can't afford that luxury.

I need a job and my own place

any word on when Bab's will be at the stadium doling out cheer?

Family that have a house in Coronado..I rent a room
from them since I had to go on S.S.disability..

And,they give me a very low rent..They like me for some reason?Hee!

No way you can even rent a room in
Coronado now a days,being on !
No matter what the Rethugs say !!///

No matter what the rethugs say...

Are you living and renting in Coronado while collecting S.S.disability?

Ya just proved them right

DOH!

mention it... :)

--"negativity being a luxury"
Submitted by Chubby Bubba on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:52pm.

then the trolls around here are like:
Mercedes,
Lexus,
Cadilacs
Hummers!
(take your pick)--

that silver douche bag.

"These people are doing so much better now. This stadium is much nicer than their $2000/mo. efficiency".

Isn't that one of those new age things?

this is the lamest troll yet!

Totally missed the point about being cut a break in the rent.

evidently believes that everyone living on government assistance should be in the slums somewhere?

well, that's compassionate conservatism for ya!

Watch for the Fed-Ex truck, Fernando is sending you a brand new Pepper Pad!

hey MMR
new
Submitted by Fernando on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:51am.
any word on when Bab's will be at the stadium doling out cheer?
*******

I don't think Bab's can bother her pretty Old head with this fire stuff!
Just like Katrina!
Eeeewww !!

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

roman is such a good friend to have.

--Plumpy'nut
Submitted by Crank Bait on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:17am.--

And he could get it to the proper place...

friend, roman, countryman...lend me your ear.

Nik is scary close to the Witch Creek fire just east of 15 and South Rancho Bernardo ... the maps on the Union Trib site have the area just North of his closet intersection in Red .. but I don't know if that means the fire is there .. was there .. close to there but not there .. I just don't know. I keep trying to call his cell .. but I get a really fast busy signal instead of a connection. I figure it is due to the heavy traffic with the fire services and all .. messing with the cell towers.

countrycat?

where did the time go?

see you down the road, nity-night!

fecicious....(I'm not even going to look up the spelling...)...yeah that's right... :)

-Submitted by dada on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:53am.
Isn't that one of those new age things?-

downloading that roman/melly video.

melly is looking for a tit to nurse and roman is nochalantly grooming her while she pokes around on his belly.

have a good snoozer!

best wishes!

Hey box of rocks.
Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 12:51am.
No way you can even rent a room in
Coronado now a days,being on !
No matter what the Rethugs say !!///
No matter what the rethugs say...
Are you living and renting in Coronado while collecting S.S.disability?
Ya just proved them right
DOH!
*******
But we lost that house when My Mom's and Dad's Military pensions keeped dropping!
These folksI live with,are ex military too!
And,they bought ther house back in the early 70's..
I've know these folks here for about 40 years!

So,once Again Anon,get Ya Head out of Ya Ass !!

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Alice,
During the 60 Minutes article on Plumpy'nut, it was stated that people in undeveloped countries don't have food allergies.

I have read this fun fact before in several different articles. It begs the question, "Why?" Or "Why not?" Take your pick.

Plumpy'nut® Information and How You Can Help -

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Following a mission conducted by the Plumpy’nut in the field® Department Manager in August 2006, the NGO International Medical Corps (IMC) is now producing the plumpy’nut® product locally in partnership with Nutriset.

International Medical Corps -

http://www.imc-la.com/

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In this context, UNICEF is supporting the capacity building of health workers, which includes the promotion of exclusive breastfeeding and development of locally-produced replacement food (PlumpyNut) for children living with HIV/AIDS.

UNICEF is also working with international and national partners on the introduction of local production of PlumpyNut in Africa.

http://www.unicef.org/mozambique/activities_1870.html

http://www.unicef.org/

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Background Information:

http://www.plumpynutinthefield.com/eng/partnerships.php

http://www.nutriset.fr/

--friend, roman, countryman...lend me your ear.--

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Week 7: Introductions to the EZLN and change in Chiapas

Through these areas of focus, she has spent a large amount of time studying and work with the Zapatista Army of National Liberation or Ejército Zapatista de Liberación Nacional (EZLN) movement in the state of Chiapas.

Ms. Fracchia gave us an in depth background on the motives behind the EZLN uprising, their goals, and the structure of their governance. The crucial motive behind the revolution was the distribution of land, and how the indigenous of Chiapas had been so severely marginalized and ignored. One of the points I found particularly interesting was that when the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was signed, land redistribution was effectively cancelled, thus leaving most of the indigenous of Chiapas without any chance of reclaiming their ancestral lands. The EZLN uprising was a response to not only this policy change but to the continued marginalization that they face. Currently their goals are to re-claim and expand their territory of ancestral lands and to maintain their autonomy as a government separate of the Mexican government. The Zapatista government also has established itself as an autonomous entity that governs itself in a true democratic fashion.
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he's going to the vet..we've taken care of him for at least 10 yrs and he has never even been to the vet. Roman is TRULY a PERFECT CAT. He really is..he is perfect.

Pray for Nik if you're so inclined...

--Anaphylaxis
Submitted by Crank Bait on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 1:04am--

but based on that same type of information and subsequent belief in it, I eat a LOT of olive oil in the hopes of staying dewey at all times... :)

Link-Video

I'm still trying to find something on the Witch Creek fire,wil_the_ersatz !
In between trolls!
"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

would be one of those times that having LIVE google maps could be helpful..Is there a phone number in LA county you could call with the street name to check up? Or maybe there's a web site by now with info..I will poke around and see...Hope Nik and his family are ok.

Link-Witch Creek Fire

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

"To revolt is a natural tendency of life. Even a worm turns against the foot that crushes it. In general, the vitality and relative dignity of an animal can be measured by the intensity of its instinct to revolt." - Bakunin

I think he's right.

But this is what you get

The older dictators fell because they could never supply their subjects with enough bread, enough circuses, enough miracles, and mysteries.
Under a scientific dictatorship, education will really work' with the result that most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution. There seems to be no good reason why a thoroughly scientific dictatorship should ever be overthrown.

Who can argue with Aldous Huxley? Not enough of us.

:)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I've been helping keep tabs on the fires all day at kos. The site is down for maintenance for a bit, but when it comes back up, there are several diaries up, with info on all the fires and conditions being updated regularly. Cell service is down for a lot of folks, and traffic is shitty for those trying to evac. Witch Creek is over 100,000 acres, last time I checked, and had consumed upwards of 500 homes. KNX 1070 is carrying live coverage, and their info has been good so far. As soon as the site's back up, I'll post more.

WfC

off to read some.. Goodnight all ~

Pasted this into VLC media player from the San Diego station

http://bcintmedia-kusi-breaking-news.wm.llnwd.net/bcintmedia_kusi_breaki...

just make me sad and tired.
G'night and rest well.

What's a girl to do, anyway?

Cthulhu '08

Where ya Been Tommy?!
Submitted by MMRules on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 10:03pm.

So go back to kos,or where ever you've been !
And,let us who blog here every day,deal with it !! Capish!!
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LOL. Wow. LOL.

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Chuck E Cheeses.

Chuck E is a Democrat, actually. What a team they make.

Ocean, mp3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VAkOhXIsI0

John Butler Guitar Solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B-x5bhLRkY

Some of you
Submitted by Cat Chew on Tue, 10/23/2007 - 1:31am.

just make me sad and tired.
G'night and rest well.

What's a girl to do, anyway?

I've had several kossacks advise trying text messaging. It doesn't take up nearly as much in the way of resources, and some folks have been successful with text messaging where calling failed.

He is safe and sound .. Thank God! .. Gonna go have a good cry now ...

hhtp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Vivaldi

In 1703, at the age of 25, Vivaldi was ordained as a priest, soon nicknamed Il Prete Rosso, "The Red Priest", probably because of his red hair.

(-signed, dying to find a depiction of Vivaldi with red hair...)

Good news.

subject field is required

I want a damn revolution. And instead I'm walking around the ghettos of Yonkers trying to get people to write letters to their Mayor telling him they don't like him vetoing the living wage bill. The whole thing seems pretty hopeless sometimes. Sorry for my bit of ranting. It's good to see you guys. You girls.

;-p

This production of about 120 kg/day is made by a women group and is part of the CTC program (Community Therapeutic Care) that IMC is implementing in the Kitgum district, North of Ouganda.

http://www.plumpynutinthefield.com/eng/

A PLUMPYNUT FRANCHISE?! Something sickening about that, Star Vox...OINK OINK!

I've been wanting that since I was a kitten...

You can spit in one hand and wish in the other...

Waiting for Cicero,

Thanks for posting the link to your Kos diary on Seder's blog.

Please continue to post your links. I enjoyed reading your latest diary. I look forward to reading more in the future.

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Salus populi suprema lex esto.

"The welfare of the people is to be the highest law."

-From Cicero's De Legibus