New One

listening in to yer interview with the alternet folks on ring of fire right now.

just getting here today, going back to Sher's thread for catchup reading. :)

How's it goin? Hope all is well.

waiting to hear from CB.

going to cross the border and visit CB later.

doin fine after the morning kerfuffle with AirOno's parrot.

Am I ... never mind he just said his name. Guess I found it.

For those of you wondering where to find Sam, here's the link:

http://www.airamerica.com/listen/

And remember to wear your seatbelt. :-)

If you're taking along brownies and/or cake, don't tell me about it. I'll die of jealousy. :-)

Parrot? Ono got a bird? Yikes. I've heard those can be a bit of a mess, and some parrots are meanies!!! Who won the kerfuffle? Ono, I hope...

Was there blood? Ew!!! Can't deal with the sight 'o' that.

I stick to cats and dogs. The kids have hinted at hamsters, bunnies, birds, fish... the middle child even tried to get us to go in on a snake. Ha! I got a dog that would love to eat the cat but won't, and a cat that's America's best mouser. That's enough for me.

God I hate commercials.

I was trying to follow along the other night but was having trouble. My knowledge of international policy and happenings is very weak, I'm afraid.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR200710...

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27890

has been around so I haven't said hi to him yet. I sure hope he's OK and blending back in. I'll be glad when he's back here on a regular basis geefing with the bunch of us.

eya mouse

ruzz is a superb ratter!

posted a link to at 5:07

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR200710...

read the comments!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR200710...

http://www.adcouncil.org/default.aspx?id=396

apparently.

Submitted by Anonymouse on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 5:02pm.
...Was there blood? Ew!!! Can't deal with the sight 'o' that...
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Yep. Fortunately the Rajah volunteered to give a Type-O transfusion.

http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/s2917.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2007-06-07-drought_N.htm

It’s all looking dismal to me lately. I fully expect a wider conflagration to be started by us as a result artificially manufactured reality, the neocon agenda and Israel lobby. This will disallow any possible withdrawal from Iraq . When you look at a map, Iraq is on one side of Iran . And Afghanistan is on the other. It begs the question about some other motivation for the events that are taking place. Of course I like and support Kucinich. I could not support Ron Paul but I’ve appreciate what he brings to the discussion on foreign Policy to the GOP side.

I have a pyramid scam theory about events like these. It says that each layer of stones (citizens) is only partly aware of the motivation of the next higher course of stone.

And therefore don’t know the true ultimate reality for why our power brokers do what they do. Each layer has a decreasing number of persons, a different function and a greater level of power.

At the top sits _______________ . My guess is bankers, media moguls, ultra rich, military industrial complex corpatilists. This is why you and I try To tear down this manufactured reality that we are feed!

You make the Lord very nervous.

Ciao all! Have a super evening.

Yeah, on its face it seemed like they were making much ado about this, which always raises my suspicions that there's way more to the story...

But then, that's my job and I'm a damn good sneak when I set my mind on a particular subject. :-)

Cheney is a big dog, though. I have no desire to go sniffin' round *that* boy's activities. I'll stick to small fish and read the books of the brave ones.

later gang!

Life is good. Thank all of you for your help in making Hillary #1 !

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before his arrest. The company is not aware of the contents of the
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Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now!

and like ToniD said, it's early yet. Alot could happen.

I want a door # 3. Doors No. 1 and 2 suck big donkey tails.

He is a good commentator.

Living, breathing, irony

"...why don't the rest of us?"

Perfection!

They will feed and dress you in jail as well. Ask chubby if it is worth it.

Don't forget
RadioNation is heard on Air America Radio Sundays at 1 pm EST and on XM satellite and non-commercial stations nationwide. It can also be heard via podcast. To bring RadioNation to a station near you, write to Peter@thenation.com.

I'm in Chicago on October 20th for a festival to "Unleash the Radical Imagination."
For more information, go to LauraFlanders.com

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z0TnqUlB4Gg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cTfBpKzu6XA

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn10202007.html
AC

announced that he will discuss AIPAC and PNAC on his show today.
http://www.620kpoj.com/main.html

beneath the Dwarf Maples.

Missoula County attorney to police: Halt misdemeanor arrests for pot
By TRISTAN SCOTT of the Missoulian

Nearly a year after voters made the Garden City a little greener by asking county law enforcement to ignore adult marijuana offenses, Missoula's top prosecutor has adopted an official policy to uphold the referendum.

“In the interest of compliance with the 2006 voter initiative on marijuana ... we are asking law enforcement officers to stop arresting individuals or writing and submitting tickets (with mandatory appearance dates) where the offense committed is solely possession of marijuana in misdemeanor amounts or possession of drug paraphernalia intended for use of marijuana,” according to a draft of the policy by Missoula County Attorney Fred Van Valkenburg, an outspoken opponent of the measure.

Van Valkenburg's policy also instructs deputy prosecutors to charge misdemeanor marijuana cases on a lowest-priority basis when marijuana is the sole offense

“We will treat them as uncharged cases that will be assigned to a prosecutor and charged on a lowest priority basis,” according to the policy. “If charged, we will seek issuance of a summons with the complaint.”

If a defendant is charged but has no criminal record of consequence, county attorneys will offer a deferred prosecution agreement rather than filing formal charges. No court appearance would be required.

Dubbed Initiative 2 and approved by 55 percent of Missoula's electorate in last November's election, the countywide measure asked law enforcement to make adult marijuana possession offenses the lowest priority. It also established a community oversight committee to investigate marijuana arrests and produce a report on the initiative's effects one year after passage.

The committee will annually track and report to taxpayers how much local government time and money is being spent on adult marijuana offenses as compared to other law enforcement issues.

On Friday morning, a quorum of the nine-member oversight committee met to discuss final details of the annual report, which will be available to members of the public on Nov. 14.

The committee's chairman, John Masterson, said the initial report will lack some data, and blames the shortcomings in part on the records-keeping processes at several Missoula County and state agencies.

For example, the report will not conclusively show by what percentage, if any, pot busts have declined since the measure passed because many marijuana charges are “custodial citations,” meaning the discovery of marijuana was incidental to another crime and the person was booked, searched and arrested for reasons other than drug possession.

Statistics where marijuana was the primary arresting offense have been difficult to come by, Masterson said.

“The only statistic that really stands out to me is that people are still getting busted for adult misdemeanor marijuana offenses,” Masterson said.

However, he said Van Valkenburg's policy satisfies the committee's expectations of how county officials should be handling personal levels of marijuana.

“That's substantial compliance,” Masterson said.

In March, Missoula County commissioners voted to narrow the initiative's scope and apply it only to misdemeanor, or personal-use amounts of marijuana, arguing that voters didn't realize the full range of the measure when they supported it.

In making his case for the amendments, Van Valkenburg emphasized that Initiative 2 is a mere suggestion to county law enforcement, and does not change any laws prohibiting marijuana use.

Reporter Tristan Scott can be reached at 523-5264 or at tscott@missoulian.com

A Massacre Foretold
http://www.counterpunch.org/tariq10202007.html
Tariq Ali

http://boards.cannabis.com/arkansas-ar/90518-eureka-springs-passes-low-p...

PRESS RELEASE- EUREKA SPRINGS LOW PRIORITY MARIJUANA INITIATIVE CERTIFIED
11-10-06 Levi Phillips has signed off on the Carroll County election results. These results will be sent to the state election commission for final certification.

As of 9:00 pm, Thursday, November 9, 2006, Cindy Baker, attorney for the Republican Party, had filed no challenges other than the one challenging the absentee ballots, which have nevertheless been counted, and are included in the totals below.

Eureka Springs Citizens vote Yes to make marijuana a low priority.

63% (598) Voted Yes for Low Priority
37% (345) Voted Against

“For the first time in Arkansas history, citizens have had an opportunity to voice their opinion on America’s failed marijuana laws. Eureka Springs citizens would rather police focus on violent crimes and property crimes - and not spend their limited resources targeting, arresting, and prosecuting minor marijuana offenders. Last year Arkansas spent $29 Million dollars to enforce federal & state marijuana laws. Over 6,000 Arkansan's were arrested for marijuana in 2004, & 405 were arrested in Fayetteville in 2005. Every 40 seconds an American is arrested for marijuana. This vote is a positive step in beginning a serious discussion about the failure of America’s unjust marijuana laws.” Ryan Denham – Fayetteville/UofA NORML
(...)

INT. THE BOILER ROOM--DAY

VERONICA and J.D. are in a heap at the bottom of the boiler
room steps. VERONICA faintly works into a semi-sitting position
and gives an astonished glance to the bomb, its digital clock
clicking to 3:04. VERONICA crawls to the gun and levels it at a
rousing-up J.D.

VERONICA
The bomb's gone on, J.D.! How do
you turn it off? Tell me!

Fully standing, J.D. flicks open his switchblade. He gives
VERONICA "the finger," screaming in exploded saliva...

J.D.
Fuck you!

Seething, VERONICA shoots up at J.D. blowing off "the finger."
Shrieking in pain, J.D. drops the knife to hold this sudden
geyser of blood. VERONICA achingly stands, pointing the gun.
The bomb clicks down to 2:25.

VERONICA
It's all over, J.D. Help me to stop it.

J.D.
You want to wipe the slate clean as
much as I do. Okay, so maybe I am
killing everyone in the school
because nobody loves me. You have a
purpose though! Remember? Let's face
it, the only place different social
types can genuinely get along with
each other is in heaven.

VERONICA fires the gun at J.D.'s feet. The bomb clicks to 1:49.
She focuses her eyes on three red buttons on the bomb.

VERONICA
Which button do I press to turn it
off? Tell me!

J.D.
Try the red one, but seriously, people
are going to look at the ashes of
Westerburg and say there's a school
that self-destructed not because
society didn't care, but because
that school was society. Is that
deep or what? I'll let you put it in
your diary, babe. Free of charge.

VERONICA
Which red button, asshole?

J.D.
Press the middle one to turn it off.
If that's what you want babe.....

VERONICA picks up the bomb and puts it on a steel drum,
speaking with her back turned.

VERONICA
You know what I want, babe?

J.D.
(crouching)
What?

J.D. snatches up his switchblade and lunges toward VERONICA.
She springs away, causing him to bring the knife down past her
and onto the middle red button, stopping the clock on the bomb
at 00:17.

VERONICA
Cool guys like you out of my life.

VERONICA fires the gun twice into J.D.'s stomach. Coughing and
moaning, he splatters against a generator.

VERONICA
But don't worry, these here
were Ich Luge bullets.

J.D. closes his eyes and slumps to the ground. VERONICA wearily
regards the image of the knife stuck in the stopped bomb

Thats some powerfull video

Missed Sam again. They rerun Ring of Fire on Sunday evenings so I will try to listen tomorrow.

Regnad Kcin, that girl of many names just won't listen. Does she ever show up?

I've never seen a dwarf maple.

Bush uses photo-ops to ‘angle for conservation stature.’ Today, President Bush used highly choreographed photo-ops in Maryland in an effort to “burnish his conservation credentials.” He looked “slightly askance” at a screech owl on his hand, remarking, “Cute little fellow.” He also joked that he loves fishing, but “the Secret Service won’t let me go hunting” with Vice President Cheney anymore.

According to the League of Conservation Voters, the Bush administration “has arguably been the most anti-environmental in our nation’s history.” More on his FY2008 budget proposals here.

http://lcv.org/president-and-congress/president/bush-rollbacks/the-bush-...

Pentagon Pushes For ‘High-Profile’ Convictions Of Detainees Ahead Of ‘08 Elections
Today, Air Force Col. Morris Davis, formerly the lead prosecutor for terrorism trials at Guantanamo Bay, tells the Washington Post that “[p]olitically motivated officials at the Pentagon” are pushing for “convictions of high-profile detainees ahead of the 2008 elections”:

Senior defense officials discussed in a September 2006 meeting the “strategic political value” of putting some prominent detainees on trial, said Air Force Col. Morris Davis. He said that he felt pressure to pursue cases that were deemed “sexy” over those that prosecutors believed were the most solid or were ready to go. […]

“There was a big concern that the election of 2008 is coming up,” Davis said. “People wanted to get the cases going. There was a rush to get high-interest cases into court at the expense of openness.”

Davis confirms that discomfort over these pressures prompted his resignation earlier this month. When originally asked why he was stepping down, Davis said that the Pentagon had ordered him “not to communicate with the news media about my resignation or military commissions.”

In the past, the Bush administration has repeatedly played politics with terrorism prosecutions. In 2002, The New Yorker’s Seymour Hersh wrote that the Justice Department went after the case of 9/11 hijacker Zacharias Moussaoui as a “splashy” political trial at the expense of stronger smaller trials:

The Moussaoui case has also contributed to discontent within the F.B.I. over what some see as a politicized Justice Department more eager to have splashy court victories than to protect intelligence resources. One senior F.B.I. official noted, with obvious disdain, that the Justice Department attorneys wanted to use raw intelligence from sensitive, ongoing investigations to bolster otherwise flagging counterintelligence or counterterrorism criminal cases.

Politics also enters into the administration’s decision of which detainees get to leave the prison. For example, two dozen Guantanamo detainees were cleared for transfer last year “even though U.S. military panels found they still posed a threat to the United States and its allies.” “What it says on your passport is more important than what it says in your ARB [Administrative Review Board],” notes the ACLU’s Ben Wizner, underscoring “that European citizens at Guantanamo were among the first to get out.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/davis-guantanamo/

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Submitted by toniD on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 8:16pm.
...I've never seen a dwarf maple.
-------------------
toniD,
It's THE Dwarf Maples. Maples is the surname (I think). I know a family of Maples but they are all pretty tall.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21392624/

RR~ Good Afternoon Mr.…Danger I'm Rocky Rococo.

ND~ Thanks half pint you just saved me a lot of investigative work.

RR~ Maybe yes maybe no…do you know what this is?

ND~ I had to think for a minute what cruel game was he playing…uh that’s a brown paper Bag

RR~ that’s correct now look inside Mr. Danger, what do you see?

ND~ That’s easy that’s a pickle

RR~ Very good! Now I think you are ready for this! (Clunk)

ND~ Why that’s nothing but a 2 bit ring from a crackerback jox!

RR~ I’ll sell it too you for $5,000

ND~ Ha what kind of chump do you take me for?

RR~ First Class!

ND~ That tarnished piece of tin is worthless!

RR~ Worthless ha ha (cough cough) Not to Melanie Haber!

ND~ Melanie Haber?

RR~ You may remember her as Audrey Farber

ND~ Audrey Farber?

RR~ Susan Underhill?

ND~ Susan Underhill?

RR~ How about Betty Joe Beiloski? (Organ)

ND~ (thinking) Betty Joe Beiloski, I hadn’t heard that name since college everyone knew her as Nancy then It all came rushing back to me like a hot kiss on the end of a wet fist. It was Pig Night at Om Made Pagme Sigma House. We had escaped from the crowd and stood trembling under the dwarf maples.

The girl of many names met him at least once. Heh!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/22596/1/hardball_miller_matthew...

Stephanie Miller... She called Chris Matthews 'a right wing tool' on his program, which is dumb. Whatever he might be (and he is part of the problem), it was uncool to accept an invitation and then insult the host. And then she apologizes too. Secondly, I don't like her. I think she is a phoney 'liberal'.

I think the entire morning lineup of Air America/NovaM sucks. The Young Turks, Stephanie Miller, Lionel. All these people used to be republicans, by the way, and it shows.

At least the Thom - Randi - ... - Mike lineup is ok. I listen through the internet, so switching stations is litterally a couple of mouse clicks.

CBS confirms 2006 Raw Story scoop: Plame's job was to keep nukes from Iran
Muriel Kane and Dave Edwards
Published: Saturday October 20, 2007

CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."

"Our mission was to make sure that the bad guys, basically, did not get nuclear weapons," Plame told 60 Minutes. Plame also indicated that her outing in 2003 had caused grave damage to CIA operations, saying, "All the intelligence services in the world were running my name through their databases" to see where she had gone and who she had met with.

RAW STORY first revealed Plame's Iran mission and the damage done to CIA operations by her outing in a February 13, 2006 story by Raw investigative editor Larisa Alexandrovna, titled "Outed CIA officer was working on Iran, intelligence sources say." In that article, Alexandrovna wrote:

According to current and former intelligence officials, Plame Wilson, who worked on the clandestine side of the CIA in the Directorate of Operations as a non-official cover (NOC) officer, was part of an operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

Speaking under strict confidentiality, intelligence officials revealed heretofore unreported elements of Plame's work. Their accounts suggest that Plame's outing was more serious than has previously been reported and carries grave implications for U.S. national security and its ability to monitor Iran's burgeoning nuclear program. ...

Intelligence sources would not identify the specifics of Plame's work. They did, however, tell RAW STORY that her outing resulted in "severe" damage to her team and significantly hampered the CIA's ability to monitor nuclear proliferation. ...

Three intelligence officers confirmed that other CIA non-official cover officers were compromised, but did not indicate the number of people operating under non-official cover that were affected or the way in which these individuals were impaired. None of the sources would say whether there were American or foreign casualties as a result of the leak.

More here...

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CBS_confirms_2006_Raw_Story_scoop_1020.htm...

More to this whole Wilson/Plame thing than meets the eye!

That guy is the brightest talent on live radio.

.

[Feel free to scroll on by if you ain't innerested in the topic; it's a long'n]

.

Nancy "off the table, baby!" Pelosi publicly rebuked Rep. Stark's comments about accusing Republicans of sending troops to Iraq to "get their heads blown off for the president's amusement."

This, to me, was a bonehead move, on both sides, for Stark *and* for Pelosi, but *especially* for Pelosi.

If Rep. Stark was gonna zap Bush 'n hit him where he lives, which I ain't got no qualm with, I'da much preferred that Stark do it inna more focused way than charging that Jr. gets off on the killin' of 'Murican soldiers in Iraq. Personally, much as I despises the destructive ruin 'n depravity of Bushism, don't b'lieve that particular charge is true, 'n even if you think Bush *does* get off on the killin' of 'Murican soldiers in Iraq, there ain't no way a provin' it and the charge just comes off like a (counterproductive) cheap-shot (i.e. the *particulars* Stark used to condemn the Republicans 'n Bush, not the spirit of impassioned opposition to a stupid and and cruel and counterproductive war).

But it is what it is. Folks is angry 'n folks is frustrated.

All I'ma sayin' is, yes, I'm glad someone in authority speaks up w/forcefulness 'n passion 'n conviction, but *if* they're a-gonna do it, they might as well be smart about it. Don't reckon Stark was smart about it for two reasons:

1. his remarks coulda 'n shoulda been much more focused and thereby much more effective 'n damning, and

2. his remarks were a (godsend) distraction for Republican bedwetters to get the country's attention offa the fact that most Republicans and certainly President Bush don't give a rat's ass about health-care for poor kids; twere bad discipline inna crucial fight over SCHIP.

Now, that said, will also say re: Pelosi's role in this brouhaha:

Democrats will never -- not once, not ever -- win any relief from Republicans -- ever -- by doing Republicans' work for them.

Which is what Pelosi did by condemning Stark publicly. (Republican pearl-clutchers sez they intends to move on condemning Stark come Monday. Another week of hyperventilating ragegasm histrionics -- yippee!.)

Charlie Brown, meet Lucy Van Pelt, coyly holdin' football.

Alla that said, I reckon Pelosi’s response shoulda been sumpin' more like this:

Rep. Stark made some intemperate remarks about President Bush and Iraq on the House floor the other day.

Perhaps Rep. Stark was referring to President Bush's unfortunate and bewildering habit of smirking and laughing inappropriately when he talks about our soldiers in Iraq.

Rep. Stark may have also been referring to the President making a video for the White House Correspondents' Dinner in May of 2004 that featured the president comically searching for weapons of mass destruction under the White House furniture while troops were and are dying in Iraq. Very funny, Mr. President.

These might be considered intemperate remarks.

Rep. Stark also may have been referring to President Bush's counterproductive bravado in challenging the insurgents to "Bring 'em on!" in July of 2003. As we are all too well aware: the insurgents in Iraq and all over the Middle East and beyond took President Bush's advice.

These too might be considered intemperate remarks.

Perhaps Rep. Stark was referring to the dishonest way in which President Bush sold and cheerleaded our country into an unnecessary war of choice, using deliberately manipulated intelligence for a war that now unfairly finds our troops playing referee in a civil war in a foreign land, one that possessed no WMD and where freedom is not on the march, as the president and the vice-president selfishly seek to hide behind the military to cover their repeated errors in judgment and deflect attention away from their inability to forge a political solution for the disaster they have created.

If Rep. Stark was referring to any of these disastrous choices made by President Bush, it did not come across clearly in the heat of his remarks.

Look, everyone knows the occupation of Iraq is going badly -- conditions are bad for our troops, for Iraqis, the occupation is exerting a tremendous toll on our treasury -- and people are frustrated.

That said, I deeply regret that the SCHIP debate veered away from providing health-care for children and instead was given over to yet-another Republican hissy-fit distraction.

I find it curious and telling that the signal voice of Republicans everywhere -- Rush Limbaugh -- calls soldiers "phony soldiers" when they exercise their First Amendment rights to dissent from President Bush's war.

But if Republicans genuinely cared about the troops, as they are always hotly claiming they do, then it seems to me that Republicans would not constantly hide behind the troops whenever criticisms of the Iraq war are levied.

Nor would President Bush and our Republican colleagues selfishly insist that the military try to do what the military cannot and should not be asked to do -- namely, the impossible: solve a political and humanitarian disaster created by President Bush's hasty heedless intemperate rush to war.

And I think we can all agree that the Republicans, after demonstrating a complete incapacity to govern for the last six years and counting, are feeling a little self-conscious these days and so were in desperate need of a distraction -- any distraction -- to hide behind. This is what desperate politicians do. And this is what these desperate politicians did.

It is a cold hard flinty fact that the president of the United States objects to providing health-care for needy children. Many members of the Republican Party agree w/him -- but not all, which is why Democrats were fighting so hard for a veto override.

This regrettable fact about our regrettable president affects our country's regrettable lack of decent health-care, for everyone, but it especially affects children. It strikes me as absurd and cruel that we can somehow provide prisoners, terrorists even, w/healthcare, and yet we cannot and will not provide health care for our own children.

What does this say about us? Are we not better than that?

And so this SCHIP debate was much too important to allow impassioned distractions such as those of Rep. Stark to divert the debate about the quagmire in American health-care over to a totally-separate quagmire in Iraq.

Rep. Stark is entitled to his opinion, even to his intemperate remarks, but in the future, we Democrats need to focus on addressing one Republican quagmire at a time.

Sincerely,

Nancy "back on the table, baby!" Pelosi

fwiw, there's an innerestin' debate over at FDL betwixt Jane 'n digby 'n Scarecrow on this topic. Jane 'n digby talks sense, to my way a thinkin'; Scarecrow talks mildly Garish-ly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/20/opinion/20sat1.html?_r=1&ex=1350619200...

in slightly larger than bite-sized segments is available here:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tullycast

To read Rep. Pete Stark's full statement on the floor of the House of Representatives:
links.sfgate.com/ZBHG

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/20/MNH9ST598.DT...

swallow your gum ! ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

toniD,
On The McLaughlin Group, Tony Blankley stated that the "World War III" comment by President Bush was "a mistake." (Meaning that it should not have been said.)

It is one of the few times that I have heard Blankley utter a negative word about anyone on his side of the aisle. I like to think of Blankley as stubbornly to the right of Buchanan both figuratively and literally...though he is not actually further Right than Buchanan; he is more Neocon-ish than Buchanan. Blankley is a suck-up, boot-licking, 'me-too' kind of Republican whose opinion on any current event, like Limbaugh's, can be predicted prior to hearing it. If it ain't Conservative and Republican, he's agin it.

When he freely offered that Bush should not have been speaking about World War III, I sensed some "idiot fatigue." When Blankley is suffering from idiot fatigue, you know that the President is in the dumper.

You ability to sense reality is highly questionable.

I still think Bush is dumb. And I think Cheny is a raving lunatic. I don't like condi but I do think she is trying to control the situation about Iran somewhat.

But between the madness of Cheney and the total lack of reason from Bush, we have major problems.

And then we have this new prresident in France, Sarkozy, who seems to be cut from the same fabric as the neocons, and Blair, who the Europeans want to put in Control, puts more pressure on the situation.

I'm not liking this situation at all!

And throw in Putin who's making a power grab in Russia and is siding with Iran and China, it's not looking good.

:)

Evangelicals reject Giuliani in poll
Romney narrowly wins 'value voters' conference presidential straw poll.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Evangelicals_reject_Giuliani_10202007.html

Government money short to help poor pay heating bills
By Tom Doggett
Fri Oct 19, 5:44 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 30 million low-income American households who will need help paying heating bills this winter from a U.S. government program will be left in the cold because of a lack of funding for the program.

The poor, already digging deep to pay for expensive gasoline, also will face much higher heating fuel costs, especially if oil prices stay near record levels.

Consumer groups and state energy officials have sounded the alarm, saying a federal program to help poor families pay heating bills will have nowhere near the money needed to cover those expected to seek assistance.

The government's Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, known as LIHEAP, only has enough funding to cover 16 percent of the 38 million poor households eligible for the program.

The current $2.16 billion LIHEAP budget in only $300 million more than what the program had when it was created by Congress in 1981. Despite higher energy costs, the Bush administration has proposed cutting the program's budget.

"We've got in essence the same level of funding, yet increasing energy costs," said David Fox, executive director for the National Low Income Energy Consortium.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071019/pl_nm/poor_usa_winter_dc_1

Teenage dipshit opines

Submitted by Brett on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 9:26pm.

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I sensed
Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 9:14pm.

You ability to sense reality is highly questionable.

________________

Truly, tho' it pains me to sez so, I thinks you is bein' ageist, Brett.

Reflexively skulkin' contrarian ninnies knows not age, only that whatever is said by peoples they despise, they's ag'in it.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi appears to be taking her marching orders from the DLC. If she and House Democratic Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer both resigned, perhaps our party would get its priorities in order:
(1) Don't fund Iraq war; bring troops home without further delay.
(2) Hold Bush, Cheney and other necons accountable.
(3) Uphold the Constitution.
(4) Spend our money wisely.
(5) Return Public Airwaves.
(6) Provide Free & Fair Elections.

" [A]ny person who enlisted in the army of the United States for service in France would be used for fertilizer and that is all that he was good for, and that women of the United States were nothing more or less than brood sows to raise children to get into the army and be made into fertilizer."
(Kate Richards O'Hare 1917)

I pulled it after thinking about it for a moment. It was a wee bit knee-jerk on my part.

Results from "Values Voter Summit" Straw Poll
Candidate Name ... Percentage
1. Mitt Romney ... 27.62 %
2. Mike Huckabee ... 27.10 %
3. Ron Paul ... 14.98%
4. Fred Thompson ... 9.77 %
5. Sam Brownback ... 5.14 %
6. Duncan Hunter ... 2.42 %
7. Tom Tancredo ... 2.30 %
8. Rudy Giuliani ... 1.85 %
9. John McCain ... 1.40 %

--Josh Marshall

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Might this perchance portend a new thread w/a SEDER Point?

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Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 9:36pm. Are you registered? If not, please do! You give anon's a good name.

Yeah dr

Submitted by Brett on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 9:40pm.

I pulled it after thinking about it for a moment. It was a wee bit knee-jerk on my part.

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Please don't be self-conscious, Brett.

Were just riffin' onnit, not criticizin'.

Coulda been a young'n, but I thought it were kinda funny 'n telling that there's still plenty a old farts what ain't learnt fuck-all nothin' in their considerable time spent on God's green earth.

Hypocritical Republicans

can't get a break

Do you have sense that they are about to resign?

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 9:50pm.
Hypocritical Republicans

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I find this fascinating inna Ambrose Bierce "war is how 'Muricans learns geography" kinda way.

As more 'n more hypocrisy runs rampant here in 'Murica, more 'n more peoples learns how to spell it correct-like.

Since this blog's inception, I reckon I is seen more spellin's for "hypocrisy" 'n its derivatives than any udder word I can thinks of.

Who sez Bushism ain't good fer nothin'?

dr and Brett,

Is it ageism to place a number on emotional arrest? Isn't human age the tool used to represent other primate intelligence and emotional development?

I know plenty of adults who exhibit the emotional development of a twelve-year-old but I don't know many twelve-year-olds who exhibit the emotional development of an adult.

So, I choose to think of anyone who would waste time trying to act tough or mean or abusive on a blog (at least to me) as a child, even if he happens to be an adult. I know that he is permanently psychologically stunted. The only question is; at what age?

Results from "Values Voter
Submitted by toniD on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 9:40pm.

Results from "Values Voter Summit" Straw Poll
Candidate Name ... Percentage
1. Mitt Romney ... 27.62 %
2. Mike Huckabee ... 27.10 %
3. Ron Paul ... 14.98%
4. Fred Thompson ... 9.77 %
5. Sam Brownback ... 5.14 %
6. Duncan Hunter ... 2.42 %
7. Tom Tancredo ... 2.30 %
8. Rudy Giuliani ... 1.85 %
9. John McCain ... 1.40 %

--Josh Marshall

________________

Wow.

A theological vote a no-confidence for St. John McCave *and* for Julie Ghouliani.

One gets the sense that there's just no pleasin' the 'Murican Talibangelicals, no matter how hard you pander bears.

Exactly what is Emotional Intelligence? The term encompasses the following five characteristics and abilities:

1. Self-awareness--knowing your emotions, recognizing feelings as they occur, and discriminating between them
2. Mood management--handling feelings so they're relevant to the current situation and you react appropriately
3. Self-motivation--"gathering up" your feelings and directing yourself towards a goal, despite self-doubt, inertia, and impulsiveness
4. Empathy--recognizing feelings in others and tuning into their verbal and nonverbal cues
5. Managing relationships--handling interpersonal interaction, conflict resolution, and negotiations

Why Do We Need Emotional Intelligence?
Research in brain-based learning suggests that emotional health is fundamental to effective learning. According to a report from the National Center for Clinical Infant Programs, the most critical element for a student's success in school is an understanding of how to learn. (Emotional Intelligence, p. 193.) The key ingredients for this understanding are:

Confidence
Curiosity
Intentionality
Self-control
Relatedness
Capacity to communicate
Ability to cooperate http://www.funderstanding.com/eq.cfm

Into Numchucks And Gummy Bears

Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 10:06pm.

... The only question is; at what age?

____________________

Goddammit, I been meanin' to sez for a long goddamn time:

I gotta big, big, big fuckin' problem w/you buddy:

What the *hell* is up w/yer semi-colon usage?

Whenever you wants to set off an ancillary point, you indiscriminately uses a semi-colon, when, to my way a thinkin', often a colon or a double-dash would be more 'ppropriate.

Semi-colons (see header, mister) is fer makin' an independent oblique point what is an extension but ain't critical to the main.

A double-dash or a colon is for makin' a point what is a dramatic emphasis that is dependent 'n contingent upon the main point.

I b'lieves, 'n perhaps I is wrong, that you is been cruelly misusin' semi-colons for nigh onto several years now, sir.

I blames myself.

('N won't it be particularly embarrassin' if I's wrong? Flyin' by the seat a yer pants ain't no way to engage in blog call-outs.)

from the dept. of pathetic
Submitted by dr on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 10:09pm.

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i just saw yer
'Murican talibangelicals
OMG I can't stop laughing!
i'm gonna make sure i use that "talibangelicals" word at least once a day

spread the good news its the talibangelicals!

Real Time with Bill Maher: Kasparov on Democracy
By: Nicole Belle @ 7:03 PM - PDT

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Here’s Bill Maher’s interview with Garry Kasparov to discuss his latest book ” How Life Imitates Chess: Making the Right Moves, from the Board to the Boardroom .” Putin is currently challenging President Putin in Russia ( Here’s the original link via the way back machine) and has assumed great risk in doing so, as Former KGB general Oleg Kalugin said about Putin ”

Putin? Well, I was always outspoken about him. I know this man’s background better than many others. I do not talk in details—people who knew them are all dead now because they were vocal, they were open. I am quiet. There is only one man who is vocal, and he may be in trouble: [former] world chess champion [Garry] Kasparov. He has been very outspoken in his attacks on Putin, and I believe that he is probably next on the list.

Kasparov speaks some about it in this exchange:

Bill Maher: Do you think your fame protects you? Do you think you are such an icon in Russia because of your past chess history that Putin would not kill you?

Garry Kasparov: No I don’t think my name affords me an ultimate protection but unlike many other activists in Russia I can rely on my name and my fame, but still I take some measures to minimize the risk.I have bodyguards in Russia, I do not fly Aeroflot, (laughter) I do not consume any food or liquid in places that I’m not fully aware of, but again it’s just minimizing the risk. I know that it may not offer me any ultimate protection if the worst comes to worst.

Maher: But when you look at what’s going on in Russia, Putin has a very high approval rating. I mean there is something in the …

Kasparov: How do you know? (laughter) I mean are you sure? Are you relying on the polling results of the police state? I think that with the same type of media and pervasive security force, I believe Bush and Cheney could enjoy the same approval rating here. (applause)

Maher: Checkmate to me.

The entire interview was really great. Do check it out.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/20/real-time-with-bill-maher-kaspa...

i just saw yer
'Murican talibangelicals
OMG I can't stop laughing!
i'm gonna make sure i use that "talibangelicals" word at least once a day

spread the good news its the talibangelicals!

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Glad you likes (as DeNiro sez in "The Untouchables", in kinda-sloppy haphazard paraphrase: "It's funny cuz it's true."), tho' you should know it definitely tain't mine.

Been around for some while.

dr,
Speaking of Talibangelists and unerring, childlike certitude; there is a female clerk at a store that I frequent who drives a minivan plastered all around with anti-abortion stickers, pro-soldier stickers and various Jesus stickers.

I have seen the minivan in several different towns for a few years but I never connected a particular human with the absurd automotive billboard. It wasn't until I saw the van in the parking lot only at times when a certain clerk was working in the store that I unwittingly and unwillingly learned who the "Shout it from the rooftops" religious righty (probably) is.

It is possible that she bought the van pre-plastered but the cross necklace and her mannerisms are convincing me otherwise. She's a mouse in her late thirties or early forties. She could wear her hair in a bun to complete the image.

She has never tried to sell her religious opinions to me in person, so I have not asked if the ostentatious van belongs to her. Here is my quandary; I resent having to see that fucking billboard vehicle more than you can know. It begs for confrontation. Should I ask if it is hers? Should I ask if she placed the stickers on it and if they represent her viewpoint? If she says, "Yes," may I then explain to her that I abhor everything that she stands for? May I make her so uncomfortable that she shrinks every time she sees me?

Or should I hold my tongue, let her drive her Jesusmobile in rapture-anticipating peace, and accept that nothing I could say to her would improve the world one iota?

(I wonder if I could find some Marijewanna Buttsex Island bumper stickers somewhere?)

Jack Cafferty: Almost half of America thinks the US is in a recession
By: John Amato @ 9:03 AM - PDT Jack Cafferty looks at a new CNN poll that tells us what we already know. A lot of people believe that we’re in a recession.

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All those Saturday morning stock shows that constantly beat the drum of a supposedly great economy is not being believed by the American people. I guess when the rich keep getting richer and the average American keeps piling up credit card debits and spending more time at work to make ends meet—that might be a possible reason for these negative feelings.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/20/jack-cafferty-almost-half-of-am...

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(I wonder if I could find some Marijewanna Buttsex Island bumper stickers somewhere?)

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A LeeP of faith, Crank; you is merely a LeeP of faith away.

New (supposedly improved) Rooftop Guard underlayment is, I think it only fair to sez, slippery'n whale-shit when wet.

I is glad it's stoppt rainin'.

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dr,
I never used semicolons for anything other than lists until I read a Kurt Vonnegut comment stating that semicolons are useless. Ol' Kurt inadvertently got me to thinking about them a lot. I find that when I need the full stop of a colon, I can usually adjust to two sentences. When I need a pair or trio of dashes, well, I don't like 'em and I use them sparingly. The ellipses work best for the rest of my non-semicolon needs...which is a breather more than anything else.

I do believe that a semicolon works well for a conversational construct such as this---The only question is; at what age?---if a quotation is thought to be too strong and a comma too weak. I wasn't quoting anyone. A comma barely divides the verb from the entirely unrelated syntax of the prepositional phrase. A full colon requires a following capital which seems to disconnect the two ideas so much that I might as well create separate sentences.

I can't defend every instance that I use the semicolon because I overuse them. But I overuse them because I don't like the alternatives and I haven't learned to rewrite to suit the alternatives so that I like them.

By the way, I hate *this*. But you knew that.

WAR-DOG

no one complains about toni's articles

because there's nothing to complain about

whereas, the canards you post (e.g. from the ny post)

are certifiably spam

Had been out in the country for a spell (dog tally: two porky 'n two skunk incidents).

Lives in town now.

There's a river what flows thru town (the Boardman, named after a early settler) what's fulla salmons. Coupla blocks from my place, so I goes 'n catches fish a-times betwixt fits-'n-starts a-roofin'.

Hadda buddy from Floridy write me here recent. Said hiz boy caught him the followin' tally over to the Econoloxahatchee R. (as beautiful a river as a body is ever like to see in its nat'ral settin'):

The boy got him two redbreasts on Rapalas what was bigger'n both the sunnies what was caught.

A stumpknocker onna artificial worm what coulda wrappt 'n mummified the bream.

'N a slashin' Floridy gar onna demure bream-sized poppin' bug.

Now, I ain't ordinarily one fer signs, but I reckon this is prima facie ever'dence that up is in fact down in 'Murica.

attack our strengths...

it's low-rent, but it gets results

Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 10:59pm.

By the way, I hate *this*. But you knew that.

_________________

Garsh.

Knock me ovah w/a feather.

Next thing yer a-gonna tell me is you ain't a fan a net-lingo.

Dear Democratic Leaders (an open letter)
by Steven D
Sat Oct 20th, 2007 at 02:49:11 PM EST

I see that House Republicans are gearing up to propose a vote on a resolution to condemn Rep. Stark for the comments he made the other day on the House floor during the vote to override Bush's veto of the SCHIP legislation. I also see that Speaker Pelosi has taken the opportunity to repuke Rep. Stark publicly for those same remarks.

"You're going to spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the president's amusement," Stark told Republicans on the floor of the House. [...]
"While members of Congress are passionate about their views, what Congressman Stark said during the debate was inappropriate and distracted from the seriousness of the subject at hand - providing health care for America's children," Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said.

Let me just say how ridiculous and stupid I find her remarks to be, and let me also openly state that there is no way in hell the Democratic Leadership in the House should allow the Republicans to have a floor vote on any resolution condemning Rep. Stark for simply exercising his first amendment rights.

My concern is I've heard far worse things from Republicans directed toward Democrats on numerous occasions (or have you forgotten what happened to Senator Durbin already, to cite but one example) yet you never hear of any member of the GOP caucus (with the one exception of McCain responding to the Swift Boating of John Kerry) condemning those remarks. So why do Democrats continue to back down whenever one of their members says something that riles up the GOP in the heat of battle? It's shameful and disheartening when Democratic leaders do this, and it doesn't make the liberal base of the party very enthusiastic about working to elect Democrats.

Why do you think Congress' poll numbers are so low? It's because Democrats (and a majority of independents) overwhelmingly disapprove of the actions of our leadership. The Democratic party's base came out to vote in force in 2006, while the GOP base did not. It's one of the main reasons Democrats did so well, along with the message they gave voters that Democrats would oppose the Bush agenda. So I fail to see how this strategy of caving into the GOP and Bush at every opportunity benefits the Dem's electoral chances in 2008.

More at link...

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2007/10/20/144911/43

dr,

There was a time when italics were not possible on the blog (and italics are something which I need to learn how to make on this blog because I loves me some italics for emphasis), so I tolerated *this* as a sign of your frustration.

But jeez. Since them olden days, I've SEEN you italicize a word on this blog. Clearly, *this* is used to annoy me. Or you're a lazy fuck. Or both.

Working early tomorrow.

Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 10:59pm.

A full colon requires a following capital which seems to disconnect the two ideas so much that I might as well create separate sentences.

I can't defend every instance that I use the semicolon because I overuse them. But I overuse them because I don't like the alternatives and I haven't learned to rewrite to suit the alternatives so that I like them.

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Au contraire, mon frere.

A colon only requires a followin' cap if 'n only if the subsequent phrase can stand on its own: i.e. is a complete sentence.

('Leastways, that's my unnerstandin' subject to welcome correction.)

Here's how I unnerstan's it:

No end in sight: right?

vs.

No end in sight: That's what Gen. So-and-so sez.

*Bite Me*
new
Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 11:19pm.
dr,

There was a time when italics were not possible on the blog (and italics are something which I need to learn how to make on this blog because I loves me some italics for emphasis), so I tolerated *this* as a sign of your frustration.

But jeez. Since them olden days, I've SEEN you italicize a word on this blog. Clearly, *this* is used to annoy me. Or you're a lazy fuck. Or both.

____________

This is a funny observation from one grammatical gadfly to the next.

Wanna know why I sometimes italicizes 'n sometimes uses *this*?

But first: any ideers?

dr,

I am about to reveal my ichthyignorance.

I thought that salmon traveled to sea. Do the Great Lakes count as a substitute? How does a Michigan salmon reach the ocean?

so that the tags don't disappear, i've used square brackets

[i]i is for italics[/i>]
[b]b is for bold[/b]

update: i inadvertently left one arrow to indicate the direction

my primitive brain thinks...

(a stroke of luck)
(or the hand of god)

I gave you my ideas: You are annoying me and/or you are a lazy fuck. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 11:26pm.

dr,

I am about to reveal my ichthyignorance.

I thought that salmon traveled to sea. Do the Great Lakes count as a substitute? How does a Michigan salmon reach the ocean?

_________________

You, sir, obviously ain't never been ridin' high like a cork on any a the Great Lakes inna storm.

http://www.pageresource.com/html/textags.htm

Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 11:29pm.

I gave you my ideas: You are annoying me and/or you are a lazy fuck. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

_______________

Yer presumptions is stuck inna Manichean tarpit, tho' I confess I ain't opposed to *annoyin'* you.

dr,
I understand that the Great Lakes are huge. I thought that salt water oceans were requisite for salmon cycles.

Do salmon exist elsewhere on the planet without access to the Seven Seas?

my primitive brain thinks...

"i could have sex on that island"

then it pauses and continues thinking

"woo-hoo"

doc,

you could walk to toni's or cat chew's place from your place

Submitted by air-ono on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 11:46pm.
doc,
you could walk to toni's or cat chew's place from your place
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You must have some big-ass cul-de-sacs down under.

I wrote a diary at the kollective today, on fundamentalist Christianity.

WfC

Submitted by Crank Bait on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 11:41pm.
dr,
I understand that the Great Lakes are huge. I thought that salt water oceans were requisite for salmon cycles.

Do salmon exist elsewhere on the planet without access to the Seven Seas?

_________

Them inland seas is vast.

For alla my boyhood, I usedta work on charterboats. In June, we'd go offa shore 30 miles to the center of Lake Michigan. There were a lateral thermocline then which congregated fish (salmons, lunk trout, steelheads).

Usedta have fog encircle us 'n have Great Lakes ore freighters 'n such-like truck come bearin' down onnus: Prior to the days of ready radar, it's a hella surprise seein' 'n hearin' ' feelin' two or three football fields worth a scrap-metal bearin' down on you outta the foggy mist.

Anyways.

First I thought you was jokin'.

Then I feared you was sincere.

I will be as gentle as I can be, knowin' full-well Lord Google is readily at yer command 'n you might well could be yankin' my chain.

Salmons fries (plants) was innerduced in Michigan streams (can't say for elsewhere, but 'bout the same time) in '66, I believes.

My Old Man were among the first to fish (and guide) the returns in the latter 60s, early 70s. Twere the Valhalla of fishin' days. Lotsa big plentiful fish in the streams w/o a plethora of assholes (like me, e.g.) chasin' 'em.

Now, in 2007, (Pacific) salmons is in alla the Great Lakes. There's even Atlantic salmons in some of the Great Lakes. (Possibly all; matter a controversy.)

A-times there's even donnybrooks over what's an Atlantic salmon 'n what's a brown trout: it shoudn't be a cause celebre but it is when a state governmental body (DNR) can't ID fish proper.

(It's the schoolin'.)

fwiw, anadromous fish don't 'ppear to be saltwater-dependent.

Salmons 'n steelheads is both made the transition to all-freshwater.

(For any nor'easters what's innerested: ever'dently striped bass were considered for plantin' in the Great Lakes -- the ostensible reason bein' to control the alewife [an intrusive saltwater baitfish; come up the St. Lawrence seaway, jes' like the sea-lamprey] die-off -- 'stead a Pacific salmon.

Salmons die off after spawnin' (Pacific anyways), but stripers don't, so I'ma allus curious what the Great Lakes'd been like had they planted stripers 'stead a Pacific salmons.

oh, fuck off...
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Dumb fuck! He sure ain't no fucking psychic!

:)

Let's have a rousing debate about punctuation! Let's get wild! Life is short!

http://www.pretendtobenice.net/

Let's have a rousing debate about punctuation! Let's get wild! Life is short!

Working Families Party
I'm looking at their info now dada...off the bat I noticed - • Increase the minimum wage to $7.25 and index it to inflation. - I think Peace and Freedom wants a 15 dollar minimum wage...

Submitted by Alice on Sat, 10/20/2007 - 2:55am.

The difference is Working Families has been successful in raising the minimum wage in NY.

http://www.workingfamiliesparty.org/issues/livingwage.html

Again, I'm not a fan of any national party right now. I think local is the way to go.

...!!!

...with a touch of "M" Theory mixed into the "brew"..... (partial meaning i.e. ... "bending Space & Time"}

I am also here to say Cheers Catherine in Seatle, if that's your name ;) -- or I should say if that is your spelling -- or is it Cathy or ???
Alice, one day I will be able to posts a pix, until then ...There's Alice('s Pixs), yippie, anyway I wrote you a post with two Alice references -- well the first should have been to Catherine of Seatle (long may she reign)) about saying your post regarding WiccanDruid was correct ... ;) ... all names I use for different reasons ;)
Anyway, until we talk again ... *poof*

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What does you knows about Beaver Island, ono?

so you post it twice

You know, when someone means "you're" but they type "your" it really gets my goat. It annoys me more then anonymous trolls. And when someone does the same joke on every thread for weeks, that bugs me, too. I try to go with it, to see the humor in it, I really do. But it just kills me. Really, anonymous trolls don't bother me half as much. I don't know, I'm funny that way, I guess.

Watch, now I'll do a "your" by accident. Stupid karma. And that's another thing, I don't believe in karma. You notice how angry karma believers get when you tell them "I don't believe in karma"? Try it sometime. Wow, they flip. Because it's the core of their worldview. Don't mess with the worldview of a spiritual person.

um, saw it on a map

about 5 minutes ago

and the name had appeal for me

other than than... not much

so i can't say i'm an authority, but i will pen several books about beaver island and how much i don't know about it

chapter 1:

"take a walk with me... to a place i've never been"

Greetings Sederville bloggie universe.

And that's another thing, I don't believe in karma. You notice how angry karma believers get when you tell them "I don't believe in karma"? Try it sometime. Wow, they flip. Because it's the core of their worldview. Don't mess with the worldview of a spiritual person.

________________

Karma is a fig-leaf of hoped-for retributive protest held up against an overwhelming world of rat-fucking unconcern.

(btw, being the anal-prig I am, you used "then" when you meant "than"; God, I hate myself.)

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So, okay. Some sez there'z bots about.

We is got 90 guests, which seems kinda high from usual.

Is they bots? What is bots? How'z'come they'z sometimes here 'n sometimes ain't?

"... and if anyone knows about beaver island, please feel free tell me... i'm running out of material"

Kinda high from usual.

they're porn rats

hence, the maths question

Q: IF SOME SAID "HEY GREAT BLOG" WHAT IS THE ANSWER

A: UM,... 2

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Age hath not wearied him,
nor the year condemn.

dr,

I came home yesterday with two copies of the most recent book edit (two completed, bound books). I glanced at the forward and a page or two of chapter one and found two glaring typos right off the bat.

I didn't check my notes. The transcript went to me and then to a formatting lady, then to the author, then back to the formatting lady, then back to the author, then back to the formatting lady, then back to the author, then back to the formatting lady, then to press, so the typos might have been created after I finished the edit. I won't know for certain unless I compare it with my notes and the transcript. I don't think I want to know. I sure as hell don't want to read the book again.

It was depressing to find two boo-boos in a five minute peek. The author is said to be extremely happy. I guess that's what matters.

I bet your sex life is smokin hot!

you used "then" when you meant "than";

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 12:45am.

I bet your sex life is smokin hot!

__________________

I doubt we'd wanna compare notes.

Don't reckon it'd look good for either one of us.

Aah! See, karmic retribution for my "you're" criticism.

"Karma is a fig-leaf of hoped-for retributive protest held up against an overwhelming world of rat-fucking unconcern."

Well, I don't buy it. I think the way it's used to rationalize random events disqualifies it as a useful theory. Cosmic retribution too easily becomes superstition.

And what of the other side of the coin - Bad things that happen to good or innocent people? All those Iraqi civilians didn't deserve what they got.

...there are no random events.

The Damned, White Rabbit, mp3

...there are no truly connected events.

looks like,

he's treimmed out quite a bit eh!

was a fun visit!

I'm not just attacking the theory of karma from a place of ignorance. I've tried it on, to see how it fits. I just don't think it stands up to a critical assessment.

We should have concern for our fellow beings because it's the right thing to do. And Those who don't have concern are a bunch of assholes, and should be treated accordingly.

dada,
Sometimes dr does not realize how deeply he buries his meaning. The two of you actually agree. Allow me to translate the following.

dr: "Karma is a fig-leaf of hoped-for retributive protest held up against an overwhelming world of rat-fucking unconcern."

translation: Karma is insufficient as a tool of vengeance because it doesn't work that way, and even if it did no one would notice.

While the liberal drivel starts leaking out when Sam Seder shows up, the footage of Mr. Limbaugh is undeniable, despite his feeble attempt to (possibly?) defend himself.

Someone's talkin' bout Sam behind his back... :)

is as far as it gets.

"Random" and "connected" are points of view. You see what you believe. It's like particles and waves.

It all depends on what perspective you look at it from. The reality is beyond conception.

Any sound theory will take both random and connected events into account. Karma doesn't account for randomness.

Alice: what'r'you listenin' to these days.

(It's an innerestin' 'n revealin' question 'n I only feels fair-minded in makin' the exchange.)

Submitted by dada on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:04am.

It all depends on what perspective you look at it from. The reality is beyond conception.

Any sound theory will take both random and connected events into account. Karma doesn't account for randomness.

_________

Disagrees, sir.

If there's any one psychic function karma serves, it's to precisely account for randomness.

Fact, randomness is sorta the raison d'etre for karma.

Love Comes In Spurts, mp3

Short of radical intervention (like some sort of anti-brainwashing therapy), they're beyond hope, CB. I work in a city that is probably the most anti-abortion city in the world. A zealot county Republican Prosecuting attorney goes after abortion clinics like the doctors in charge of them are witches. He just filed suit against another one last week. Never mind the murderers and rapists - he lets the assistant DA's handle them. He's too busy.

The other day at lunch I was driving to grab a bite of lunch, and had to wait at the light while an anti-abortion float looking thing - a van that had plyboards attached and the whole thing painted up and with flags and shit - slogans like "stop abortion now" - held us all up at the light. It drove up, back down, and turned around in the parking lot of the restaurant where I was having lunch. I think it probably tops your little bumper sticker gal.

Would it help to argue with these people? Hell no. The only answer is what's happening quietly behind the scenes. Thank G-d the Jewish community is providing funding to help bring to power the rational non-radical clear thinking people who are slowly turning this state around. If all we had were the crazy radical Republican religious nuts, it would not be good. Not good at all.

Star Vox is here, I sees.

How-do, Vox Estrella?

...this is researched and proved to me...as my belief in the Gaia System, macrocosm and microcosm (and moreso) whereas I believe that one should not believe to anything WITHOUT PROOF! ;) JFI, Just my belief;)
;)
Out of curiosity why not the Atman in all?
"flying about" *poof*
We all are a bit "strange". ;)

musta been whatever it was that Ms_Anthrope just said. (she edited so now I'm editing so you'll all not be wondering what the hell I'm talking about)

About radicals

Submitted by Anonymouse on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:27am.

... who are slowly turning this state around. If all we had were the crazy radical Republican religious nuts, it would not be good. Not good at all.

_________________

You is makin' this too choice. (Or anti-choice, take yer pick.)

You lives where?

I'ma gonna guess: Arizona.

We're neighbors...lol.

Ever hear of Fred Phelps?
new
Submitted by Anonymouse on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:36am.
We're neighbors...lol.

_________________

No?

Whatsa'matter w/KanPhelps?

I is hunted pheasants in Hayes County. I is living testament to how folks kinda wantsta buck the system but never kinda does.

"If there's any one psychic function karma serves, it's to precisely account for randomness."

Alright. Karma is a theory providing a reason for everything. But what does karma say about things happen for no reason? "Everything happens for a reason." It's like having heads with no tails.

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead, dammit.

From the French phrase 'esprit d'escalier,' literally, it means 'the wit of the staircase', and usually refers to the perfect witty response you think up after the conversation or argument is ended. "Esprit d'escalier," she replied. "Esprit d'escalier. The answer you cannot make, the pattern you cannot complete till aterwards it suddenly comes to you when it is too late."

...Karma ... just giving a personal opinion, then a zillion other posts, of which I have to go and have to come back and read the rest. ;)
Boo;
will check back in a bit ;) *poof*

The Thing That Only Eats Hippies, mp3

Phelps is nuttier than a 5 pound fruitcake, and he's only a few hairs nuttier than 2/3 of Kansas. Try reading up on the doings of the Kansas Board of Education and you may begin to see what I'm talking about.

Then also read up on Phill Kline and what he did while he was Attorney General. The guy who is *now* Attorney General, was backed primarily by the Jewish community in his beginnings, and gained popularity through his effectiveness and hard work, which got him to where he is today.

Same story with the governor, also initially backed by the Jewish community, also gained popularity through her effectiveness and hard work.

By and large, Kansans are a strange breed. Their only saving grace has been the Jewish community, imho.

hope you is well

Submitted by dr on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:28am.
Star Vox is here, I sees.

How-do, Vox Estrella?

_________________________

Salve, mi caballero!

I am doing very well. I have been quite busy and I am trying to catch up on some things. I owe you an e-mail which I plan to send this weekend.

It is good to read the blog tonight while listening to some fine music.

I hope everyone is doing well.

To me a bit like Murphy's Law. LOL LBH (LBH=LED/Lead Ballon Humour=I think it's funny, not many others'=Joke Just Doesn't "Fly")
*poof* will check back in a few... ;) *poof*
Boo ;

but Kansas has 105 counties, and 'Hayes' is not one of them.

Hays, Kansas is actually in Ellis County, although it *is* the county seat...

:-)

Submitted by Anonymouse on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:49am.

By and large, Kansans are a strange breed. Their only saving grace has been the Jewish community, imho.

__________________

Is you Hebrew, 'mouse?

(If you wanna sez, course.)

The Wit of the Staircase

Submitted by Alice on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:46am.

Be careful with that rabbit hole, Alice.

although I admire the Hebrews, and being employed by one, I directly benefit from my employer being a member of the Jewish community. It's a close-knit bunch, and through him I've met alot of wonderful people who treat me very well.

Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode, George turning around in the middle of the intersection after the perfect comeback finally hits him...and he just has to go back to the office to say it.

I never had RATS but someone was taking to the pound 2 Rats...(now I deemed ex-dead-rats-walking) So I took and named Karma and Dharma , whom had 5 "Gems" almost immediately.
But I LOVE RATS NOW. They only last 2-3 years and they can be taken anywhere. I LOVE MY RATS and they are BRILLIANT. (I was going to get a parrot to keep my cats humble {giggle but still tell my cats that I'm turning them in because of their arrogance and attitude} and now also trying to get The Ravens here to say "Nevermore".) mwah haha. Boo ;

BTW dr not to be critical

Submitted by Anonymouse on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:59am.
but Kansas has 105 counties, and 'Hayes' is not one of them.

Hays, Kansas is actually in Ellis County, although it *is* the county seat...

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Fair enought.

I'm sure I's wrong, happily so.

Prolly Hayes-town, not county. Nor'western Kansas as I recalls, but there it is.

(I were workin' the first real job I is had in my life in Kansas City, MO, when my buddy from AK calls 'n sez, inna voice fillt w/the smoky mall palls of years of Lucky Strikes unfiltered: "Hey, Dave! Wanna go huntin'?"

Course, the call come @ 2:30 in the morn 'n so I left early the next morn.

'Member Ron's kid in the hotel room:

Ron sez when I arrived: "Go 'head, put Kenyatta on the floor."

This means dispossessin' a kid of his bed. Twere a queen-size (keep yer puns to yerself) bed, so sez I, confidently:

"Kee-rist, I ain't a-gonna be such an ass as that!"

So tries to sleep.

'N whack!/thwap!/pow!: the kid keeps a-rabbit-punchin' me in the ribs w/his spastic feets.

So I picks him up 'n puts him on the floor.

Jes' like Ron sez I would (should).

You can't learn some peoples somethings; they jes' gotta be tenderized in their own sweet time.

You haven't lived until you wake up in the middle of the night with a kid's toe in your mouth. Blech.

dada....

Alice follows a mysterious white rabbit into a rabbit hole to enter 'Wonderland', an absurd and improbable world inhabited by many strange characters.

*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BY9cvgrP1c
The Apple! ...a nugget of beautarded.

*

Circle Jerks, Patty's Killing Mel

But I LOVE RATS NOW.
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(mouth agape) ... how do I respond to that? :-)

Good for you! LOL You're a much bigger woman than I am. If I'm in the same room as a rat, there's only 1 place you'll find me. On top of a chair.

Chaos theory is fun. Makes pretty designs.

Quite Gentile

Submitted by Anonymouse on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 2:04am.
although I admire the Hebrews, and being employed by one, I directly benefit from my employer being a member of the Jewish community. It's a close-knit bunch, and through him I've met alot of wonderful people who treat me very well.

______________

I were bein' unduly coarse, I expect.

Time was, my wife were Hebrew.

Just curious, mostly.

Allus kinda incongruous matchin' up the 'Murican Bible-belt w/the lost tribe a Israel.

"oh no, it's fat-ono"

J.K. Rowling officially revealed that Albus Dumbledore, headmaster of Hogwarts School (famous student: Harry Potter) was "smitten with rival Gellert Grindelwald, whom he defeated long ago in a battle between good and bad wizards."

Submitted by Star Vox on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 1:53am.

Salve, mi caballero!

I am doing very well. I have been quite busy and I am trying to catch up on some things. I owe you an e-mail which I plan to send this weekend.

It is good to read the blog tonight while listening to some fine music.

______________________

Salve, Vox Estrella:

What musics is you listenin' to?

"We cannot depend upon the evidence of the senses for our information concerning the realities of things; if we did we should believe that the sun moved, that the world was flat instead of round, that the stars were bits of light instead of vast suns.

The whole range then of the theory and practice of any system of metaphysics consists in knowing the Truth concerning yourself and the world in which you live: in knowing that in order to express harmony, you must think harmony; in order to express health you must think health; and in order to express abundance you must think abundance; to do this you must reverse the evidence of the senses.

-Lou Reed-

You're fine. Sorry for your pain. I love Jewish women. I've been friends with many over the years. Wonderful, giving people.

Although I've spent many years immersed in the culture, I've never figured out why Christians adhere to the Bible's proclomation that Jews are G-d's chosen people, but yet spend so much time and energy trying to convert them to Christianity. It stands to reason that if G-d loves the Jews more than any other, he wouldn't care whether or not they became Baptist. At least...anyway, that entire line of reasoning, irrespective of all the other lines of reasoning, never made sense to me.
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Our foreign policy was molded around the words of the Bible by people who wanted to help the prophecies come true. Like the creation of Israel after one of them wars. Not knowing much about foreign policy, strangely I remember that bit from a history class...and I remain convinced that this whole deal with 9-11, and later with Iraq, was fueled by religious difference, mainly Christian versus Muslim. Osama was pissed because we parked our planes on sacred land during the Gulf Storm, and then when Bush wanted to go after Iraq, the fact that the country was Muslim helped him get support from the Republican ultra religious conservative right-wing nutties seeking to 'convert or kill'. IMHO.

The Ray Belmonte Duo - Laugh It Up with Ray and Rick - Side 1 (15:30)

done

Video Four-Pack V.7 (Die Kreuzen, Flirtations, Steven Jesse Bernstein, Dälek)

Die Kreuzen performs the song "Stomp" from their 1988 album "Century Days".

The Flirtations' "Nothing but a Heartache" is a Northern Soul staple that a lot of DJs at WFMU have a not-so-secret obsession with

Dälek is nothing less than the sound and sensation of where forward-thinking hip-hop ought to be heading, rather than tragically (more like "comically") mimicking the mainstream.

Steven Jesse Bernstein was an American poet and artist who buddied around with William S. Burroughs and released an incredible album of poetry on Sub Pop Records in 1992 with an assist from scenester/recording guru Steve Fisk.

...it was Charles Haanel (and also this quote below)

"When we realize that our present character, our present environment, our present aility, our present physical condition are all the result of past methods of thinking, we shall begin to have some conception of the value of knowledge."

with guests Don Rickles and Nina Hagen

...

That's a bunch of bullshit. Humans were aware of the round Earth revolving around the Sun thousands of years ago because of scientific observation. A bunch of religious control freaks in the middle ages, using propaganda and the threat and use of force convinced some people otherwise for political reasons. The same is true today, where religious regressives try to take the Bible literally about the creation of the world.

It's unthinking faith that leads to false theories, not the evidence of the senses.

Try a test: don't think abundantly, and see if you're any less abundant. Through scientific experiment you'll find that theory and practice are two different things.

And of course, I wouldnt recommend getting your metaphysical theories from Lou Reed.

Super Disco Breakin', mp3

Well, I still think it's bs.

I'd bet Lou Reed does too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU6dIBK7_ig

Gorishly elemental: earth, wind 'n fire?
Submitted by dr on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 2:34am.

Salve, Vox Estrella:

What musics is you listenin' to?

___________________

dr:

I am listening to jazz tonight.

Billie Holiday is one of my favorites. I also have been listening to some of the great ladies of jazz (Sarah Vaughan, Peggy Lee, Ella Fitzgerald, Anita O'Day, Dinah Washington, and others).

Then I added some Duke and Basie.

Now it is Sting, Chris Botti, and Miles Davis.

From Sketches of Spain - Miles Davis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5vhd-9Om44

--It's unthinking faith that leads to false theories, not the evidence of the senses.--

Forecast in chrome and plastic. Tyrants breathing alloy of slavery, planet hunger, versions of Jackie O. Sherry, Sherry baby, won't you come out tonight? And the stars whisper like old blood at the edges of the body of night. She stood with one hand on the phone for four hours, poised as though only a few seconds had passed. I watched her through the crack between the shade and the sill. She waited for a forecast in human trembling, together with other important women. Come, come, come out tonight. The world suffers for her: The clock hurries like a terrified animal, then stops, dribbling saliva. She has eaten chicken pie and bubblegum. For a month the Luftwaffe lived on raisins. Same with the French, after the war. Jackie O. received fresh oranges from John Kennedy. Silly girl. She cannot put down the telephone receiver. She is waiting to receive my body of work. She wants to take it in her ear. A mottled flush builds under her cheeks. She eats Xmas candy while she waits. The telephone rings and rings. I am not at home. I am with Jackie O. We are eating oranges from the President. We are alone on the roof of a Park Avenue penthouse. Picture of Marilyn Monroe in my back pocket molded by heat and sweat to the shape of my buttocks. You are gripping the phone smiling, eating candy, crying. I am with the important women, now. I am secretly an important man. Hang up the phone. I can't dance with you, anymore. Go to your freezer and get a popsicle. Go to your TV. Turn on your TV. You will see me and Jackie O. She will be taking it in her ear, the body of my work. In the Planetarium. You will receive a forecast. I will always be more important than you. You will never be important enough. You will never be on the whip-hand of slavery, never be the one to wield hunger against humanity. Heaven will never be an extension of your body. Your body will always belong to someone else. The picture of Marilyn Monroe flutters across the roof, steaming, shaped like me. Shaped like my ass. The sky is filled with oranges during the war. We eat them. The president is alone in a room. He is unimportant. As we eat his oranges the sky grows blacker. The moon ripens and turns red. It rots and is swallowed by the darkness. You are still by the phone. It is ringing and ringing, dead. Sherry, Sherry baby, won't you come out tonight. It is completely dark. The earth freezes. You put down the receiver and go to the window. Come, come, come out tonight.

...aiw...

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Indian-American Next Governor in Louisiana
With more than 90 percent of the vote counted, Mr. Jindal received 53 percent, above the 50 percent-plus-one threshold needed to avoid a runoff in November. He will be the nation’s first Indian-American governor when he takes office in January.

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Flaming Fire, Killing the Right People, mp3

where's it from?

Disco Inferno, mp3

I heard him read it at an Anarchist Fair in Seattle, 1991.
Secretly an important man.

In all fairness, who wouldn't be smitten with Grindelwald?

But I should go.

...I hate "shoulds"

Night, folks.

.

Yet Mr. Jindal, with his decisive victory on Saturday, appears to have overcome a significant racial hurdle that blocked him in 2003, according to analysts: race-based opposition in the deeply conservative northern and eastern parishes of Louisiana that once supported the Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.

A born-again Roman Catholic, Mr. Jindal made a particular campaign target of these areas, visiting them frequently and bringing his brand of devout Christianity to their rural churches. His social-conservative message — teaching “intelligent design” as an alternative to evolution in public schools, a total ban on abortion, repealing hate-crimes laws — would have been welcome in these areas.

Tanks ;)

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1120355/a/Sub+Pop+200.htm

...since I do not understand.....
Why would one worship within the Judaeo/Christian Pantheon, when that structure has caused such deep sorrow? ;)

http://www.daylife.com/topic/Gellert_Grindelwald

-who wouldn't be smitten with Grindelwald?-

The question is ..who is master of their elder wand.... :)

It's being made into a big gay thing, and not so much embracing *your*/*our* "dark sides"...

*

http://shortperiod.com/
World gone mad...

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“He read poems from a stage with a live rodent in his mouth, its tail twitching as baseline punctuation. He tried to cut his heart out in order to hold it in his hands and calm it down. He once urinated on a heckler and tended to throw things: beer bottles, manuscripts, drumsticks, his wallet, a sandwich."

Steven Jesse Bernstein (is it this guy? Or no..?)

*

E-Books Multiply

to get out or face reprogramming in the blackwater run creationist goulog. fucking great

WD...

:)

Brett...

We're probably never gonna agree on certain basic premises regarding reality.

I'll try a test, but it won't be the one you proposed.

I was thinking along the lines of trying a test such as:

"Try thinking thoughts of abundance, & of an expanding universe,
daily forever,...
and seeing how that pans out instead."

It seems irrational to intentionally thwart the chance of living a charmed life ... when such a life intuitively feels possible,...
now that I know more than I used to.

...And have access to new helpful information to assist me on my path.

...And because this information resonates true to me, I can't ignore it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooI8-mMwta4

Have you read it?

This quote below comes from Charles Haanel's other book, "Mental Chemistry."

"Abundance is a natural law of the universe.
The evidence of this law is conclusive; we see it on every hand.
Everywhere Nature is lavish, wasteful, extravagant.
Nowhere is economy observed in any created thing.

The millions and millions of trees and flowers and plants and animals and the vast scheme of reproduction where the process of creating and re-creating is forever going on,
all indicate the lavishness with which nature
has made provision for man.

That there is an abundance for everyone is evident;
but that many seem to have been separated from this supply
is also evident;
they have not yet come into realization
of the universality of all substance
and that mind is the active principle
which starts causes in motion
whereby we are related to the things we desire."

Having the first Indian-American governor in American history sounds great on the surface, but it's not about race. This guy is very intelligent, quite educated and I know he can do a fine job with nuts & bolts government work. However, look a little up thread where I bolded part of the NYT article on him. Sez it all. I plan writing an open mic about him but I'm pretty tuckered out right now. Basically he's a reichwingnut with an Ivy league education. Dangerous combination.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I have one or two copies...

I can't find the email now, but some guy from some university wrote to me about that Master Key book...it's been so long though I can't remember what he wrote about it specifically

;)

It's a real easy read.

It's pretty powerful stuff.
Just like "Ask and It is Given" and "The Nature of Personal Reality."

It's trippy. I'm sure you'd enjoy reading it.
It's been re-released. They sell it at Borders now for 10 bucks.
Primarily, because I think Charles Haanel was quoted in the book, "The Secret."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRLQZspS4MY

O aeterne Deus
Submitted by Nicky Rose on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 4:16am ;)
Boo ;
(i just realized ... hahaha regarding Your Boo)

Tea Party

Druid Sisters Tea Party is a rollicking light-hearted all-girl groove Celtic-funk dance band with tons of fun in mind

*

"Power can be seen as power with rather than power over, and it can be used for competence and cooperation, rather than dominance and control." - Anne L. Barstow

...

Jesco
Submitted by Nicky Rose on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 5:10am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al9r4ahuK1w
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now whatyagotyerselfthere is some real darn tootin hillbilly fun!

I'd sho like ta see'em doin' the jig by the cement pond

2004: McClurkin to sing out at GOP convention against the "gay curse"

• Gospel singer Donnie McClurkin, who has detailed his struggle with gay tendencies and vowed to battle "the curse of homosexuality," said yesterday he'll perform as scheduled at the Republican National Convention on Thursday, despite controversy over his view that sexuality can be changed by religious intervention.

"I can't let off. I didn't call myself -- God called me to do what I do," McClurkin told The Post's Hamil R. Harris. The Grammy winner declared, "If this is a war, we are willing to fight. Not a war of violence, but a war of purpose."

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Obama to do gospel tour with Donnie McClurkin

As religious conservatives gather in Washington this weekend for the “Values Voters Summit,” Senator Barack Obama’s campaign announced its latest effort to attract people of faith to the campaign: a gospel concert tour.

All three of the dates of the “Embrace the Change” tour are in South Carolina, where Mr. Obama is locked in battle with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for black voters.

Gospel acts including Mary Mary, Donnie McClurkin and Hezekiah Walker, Byron Cage and the Mighty Clouds of Joy are scheduled to appear.

“This is another example of how Barack Obama is defying conventional wisdom about how politics is done and giving new meaning to meeting people at the grassroots level,” Joshua DuBois, the campaign’s religious affairs director, said in a release....

Hope Obama doesn't turn "GAY" and need to be deprogrammed like McClurkin

Are you here?

...I think she'd know..." "cool" LOL ;D
Boo ;)

Met him in San Francisco in 1979, before he was a Journalist.

Stop Demanding Praise, Just Shut Up And Do Your Job

John Howard and Peter Costello did a masterful job of appearing not to be at all thrown by Kevin Rudd's announcement of his tax policy. Or should that be, the Howard government's tax policy, but with the big fat bonuses for the richest Australians diverted to many tens of thousands of parents who can't afford to get their kids online and computer literate.

As Glenn Milne makes clear in this column, big fat tax cuts for the rich, a few handfuls of gold coins for the rest, don't win voters over anymore. And they haven't for a while. It's like Rocky VI. Yeah, it might be good to see Balboa bounce back, but does it really matter anymore?

Voters want something more. Money into health, education, infrastructure. Where all those curiously large surpluses are supposed to be spent, before they become curiously large surpluses

It's that simple.

Ruddin Hood taking away tax cuts for the rich was probably expected by Howard and Costello, but even a day or two later they didn't seem to comprehend just how popular Rudd's few-red-lines revision of their tax policy really are.

Here's Milne :

...courtesy of Costello and John Howard's decade plus of economic management, Rudd promises $31 billion of tax cuts for middle and low-income earners.

Then he jettisons the Government's cuts for those earning more than $180,000 a year and commits the savings of $2.3billion to helping families meet the education costs of "breaching the digital divide''.

Winning elections is about having a coherent narrative.

Leaders must construct a story about where they want to take the country that resonates above the rival political noise, sufficient that it carries all the way to the ballot box on polling day.

The danger for John Howard now is that the education rebate threatens to do just that. Rudd has been smart here, if economically disingenuous.

He reaps the same Budget harvest as Howard and Costello, enabling him to promise the same generous tax cuts to the constituencies that count politically, but he overcomes the cynicism that accompanies such tax give-aways by the altruistic "gift'' of the education rebate.

There is another overlay at work as well - voters now show an increasing reluctance, at least in the published opinion polls, to want to appear selfish. So while the Howard/Costello package backs self-interest in the form of tax cuts, the polls consistently show that voters would prefer governments to spend their surpluses on services, such as health, and infrastructure.

What Rudd has done is dual-track his messages: he appeals to self-interest by embracing the Government's tax cuts but he also satisfies the vanity of voters, who at the same time want to regard themselves as selfless, by convincing them Labor's "alternative'' is about the future of their children rather than their own hip pocket.

http://theorstrahyun.blogspot.com/

FROM: http://www.berkeley.edu/news/extras/experts/yoo.html

John Yoo
Professor of law
School of Law (Boalt Hall)
Expertise:
Constitutional and international law issues, affirmative action, civil procedure, public lawmaking, civil rights, class action law, federal and state constitutional law, U.S. Supreme Court, European Union, extradition, international human rights, international courts of justice.

Yoo has published articles about foreign affairs, international law and constitutional law in a number of the nation’s leading law journals, including the law reviews of Boalt Hall, University of Chicago, Columbia University, University of Michigan, University of Pennsylvania and University of Texas. He is the author of "War, Peace, and the Constitution," (University of Chicago Press) 2004.

Contact:
(510) 643-5089
E-mail: yoo@law.berkeley.edu

Additional contacts:
Janet Gilmore, Media Relations: (510) 642-5685
jangilmore@berkeley.edu
Roxanne Makajdian, broadcast: (510) 642-6051, roxannem@berkeley.edu

Background:
Yoo joined the Boalt Hall faculty in 1993, then clerked for Justice Clarence Thomas of the U.S. Supreme Court. He served as general counsel of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee from 1995-96. From 2001 to 2003, he served as a deputy assistant attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel at the U.S. Department of Justice, where he worked on issues involving foreign affairs, national security and the separation of powers.

He has testified before the judiciary committees of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, and has advised the State of California on constitutional issues.

He is comfortable with media and very engaging. He has done both print and broadcast interviews, including Newshour with Jim Lehrer.

Articles
"Rules of law: Let states decide," a same-sex marriage essay by John Yoo first published by the Wall Street Journal, 3/1/04
Other info
Between college and law school, he worked as a newspaper reporter in Washington, D.C.

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Anyone notice he's supposedly an expert on international human rights?

One would imagine that a famous expert like John Yoo would like to hear from his fans. Go ahead and tell him what you think of him and his torture advocacy.

Address Description: Default Primary Work Address
Title: Professor of Law
Department Name: Law
Street, Room: 890 Simon (Law)
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US to build border fence between Iraq and Iran
by Chris in Paris · 10/21/2007 06:31:00 AM ET
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Considering the brilliant work that has been done along the US-Mexico border, including the high tech "virtual fence" that the great minds of Boeing have sold to taxpayers, despite no sign of its ability to track much beyond stray cows, coyotes and perhaps a few dogs, why does anyone think the US ought to spend any more money in Iraq to build some kind of a fence to stop Iranians? Heck, they can't even manage to cover 10% of the US-Mexico border despite it being right there in the US so how in the world could such a project even be completed in Iraq?

How much more money does Bush want to throw at the problems that he creates?
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is lending border patrol and customs officers to help, and some former officers are working here under private contracts.

"This is a lot tougher than the Mexican border," said Army Col. Mark Mueller, who is in charge of U.S. forces advising Iraq's Department of Border Enforcement and the Iraqi army in this region. "There are leftover mines and munitions everywhere."
I'm not sure which statement here provides even less confidence between Homeland Security being involved or this project being more difficult than the US-Mexico border. This team is unable to take on any task, big or small, without screwing it up completely. The American middle class is not a bottomless pit of funds for Republican experiments that are always massively expensive failures.

http://www.americablog.com/2007/10/us-to-build-border-fence-between-iraq...

GOP completely out of touch with US on global warming
by Chris in Paris · 10/21/2007 04:04:00 AM ET
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CNN ought to feel pretty ignorant for their recent Gore-bashing "viewer feedback" article as well because according to their own poll, Americans understand the problem and want to see action. The GOP may want to ignore the issue and even make fun of anyone who sees reality on the problem, but to do so is to attack a broad majority of the population.
Most Americans blame emissions from cars and industrial plants as the primary cause of global warming and believe the United States should reduce levels even if other countries don't, a survey shows.

Fifty-six percent of poll respondents said the phenomenon of global warming has been proven, and can be largely blamed on human endeavors, such as power plants and factories, according to the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll.

In comparison, 21 percent of those surveyed claimed global warming problems are caused either by natural changes or are unproven.

Sixty-six percent of Americans believe the United States should do what it can to reduce global warming, even if other nations ignore it. This compares with 52 percent of respondents who believed that way in 2001.

http://www.americablog.com/2007/10/gop-completely-out-of-touch-with-us-o...

Late Night: Wingnut Crap of the Week (deferred for yelling at Dem leadership purposes)
By Thers on Sat Oct 20, 2007 at 08:02 pm

This was kind of a grim week as far as our Democratic legislative leaders go. Rule of thumb: when even the NYTimes editorial board can rightly call you out for your lack of sack, you’ve had it.

I have no idea what it will take for the Democratic leadership to get it through their heads that it’s not just the base but also the entire frickin’ country that wants them to tell the Bushites to piss off with their waterboarding and their warrantless wiretaps and their dumbass horrible wars, and their lying, and oh yeah, all the damn dead people. How much more appalling could the Congressional poll numbers get? Is this some sort of science project — are they trying to compel statisticians to discover entirely new mathematical methodologies for calculating exactly how much contempt they’re held in? America wants a change. OFFER ONE. Is Chris Dodd really the only one among you capable of perceiving the obvious?

FDL doesn’t do endorsements. I don’t do endorsements either. But speaking strictly for myself, the Editors have a point.

Dodd has already taken a great risk - both personally and for his constituents in Connecticut - by putting this bill on ‘hold’. A filibuster would be a hundred times worse. Just threatening a filibuster is a total slap in the face to Harry Reid and the rest of the 11%-approval Get Along Gang in Congress, the telecom lobby, and President 24%. Clinton and Obama are probably still arguing about the correct diplomatic etiquette for public discussions of bombing our allies. This strange, shrill and unBroderian spectacle is what was once called “leadership”. Dodd has my vote, and my cash, and my time. Hint, hint.

Dunno if I’ll vote for Dodd. Dunno if I’ll even have the chance. But I will say this, to any Democratic strategist reading this post, contemplating some balancing act about how to handle 2008:

If you concede on habeas corpus, if you concede on ending the war, if you concede on bringing troops home, if you concede on FISA, if you concede on waterboarding, if you concede on holding this misbegotten failure of an administration accountable for their abuses, if you give one more goddamn inch —

Come 2008, I aim to misbehave.

Maybe that’s just me. But I doubt it.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/20/late-night-wingnut-crap-of-the-wee...

Have a great morning

Hillary is 'most cheated on women in America'
David Edwards and Adam Doster
Published: Friday October 19, 2007

This summer, talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said he was "80 percent sure" that Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton would win the 2008 Presidency. Fast forward to October, and the right winger isn't so sure.

"I think too many people," he said on Fox's Hannity & Colmes, "have accepted a bunch of false premises that Mrs. Clinton is inevitable."

Why the change of heart? Limbaugh is underwhelmed with Clinton's experience, to say the least.

"Mrs. Clinton is qualified to do three things," Limbaugh said, before listing only two. "Cattle futures, and then investigate, destroy, and impugn the women her husband runs around with. She is the most cheated on women in America."

But Limbaugh was not done. "She's never run a business, she's never met a payroll, she's not done diddly-squat other than bimbo eruptions for 35 years," he bellowed. "What is it that qualifies her to run the American health care system over anybody else?"

[VIDEO]

tough break for hillary-spamming war-dog

his dickhead hero has changed tact

hahahahahaha

"make me feel good, rush... tell me lies, rush... say i'm special, rush... i'll lick your feet if you support our disgusting reprehensible mindset!!"

it's off to work you go

: )

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* Sunshine Jim

the visit with Chubby Bubba was a treat!

he hustling a gig so he can get some digs for him and the cat crew.

he trimmed down! is feeling good and ready for whatevers next.

pic here:

http://www3.telus.net/Art-Adventures/CBout/Mikes442-C0007.jpg

on NBC.... This is not a dream....

Far realer than Brownback

They should sent his fat ass back in the poky for life, then he might trim down.

He's still a ugly fat bastard.

stretch!

eya fer! what's going on with colbert?

ya, sigh...

me too, deal with it.

My Indians have turned back into the pumpkin! It is what it is!

is still hanging around.

was fun rooting for them back in those days.

nowadays i don't much follow "pro" sports.

mostly bread and circuses distractions.

no biggie. still like underdogs tho.

AS THE “first pet” of the Clinton era, Socks, the White House cat, allowed “chilly” Hillary Clinton to show a caring, maternal side as well as bringing joy to her daughter Chelsea. So where is Socks today?

Once the presidency was over, there was no room for Socks any more. After years of loyal service at the White House, the black and white cat was dumped on Betty Currie, Bill Clinton’s personal secretary, who also had an embarrassing clean-up role in the saga of his relationship with the intern Monica Lewinsky.

Some believe the abandoned pet could now come between Hillary Clinton and her ambition to return to the White House as America’s first woman president.

Clinton has been boosting her prospects in the past week with some homespun references to her gender as part of a series of events with the theme Women Changing America, during which she chatted girlfriend-to-girlfriend and mom-to-mom with female voters.

The softening of Clinton’s image seems to be working. Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, predicts that up to a quarter of Republican women will vote for her. She leads Democratic rivals in the polls by 26 points and is scooping up more donations to her war chest from Wall Street and defence contractors than any candidate from either party – an unmistakable indicator of who they think will win in 2008.

Clinton’s treatment of Socks cuts to the heart of the questions about her candidacy. Is she too cold and calculating to win the presidency? Or does it signify political invincibility by showing she is willing to deploy every weapon to get what she wants?

“In the annals of human evil, off-loading a pet is nowhere near the top of the list,” writes Caitlin Flanagan in the current issue of The Atlantic magazine. “But neither is it dead last, and it is especially galling when said pet has been deployed for years as an all-purpose character reference.”

Flanagan’s article, headed No Girlfriend of Mine, points out that Clinton wrote a crowd-pleas-ing book Dear Socks, Dear Buddy: Kids’ Letters to the First Pets, in which she claimed that only with the arrival of Socks and his “toy mouse” did the White House “become a home”.

Being Clinton, she also lectured readers that pets are an “adoption instead of an acquisition” and warned them to look out for their safety. (Buddy, the chocolate labrador, it should be noted, bounded into a road soon after leaving the White House and was promptly run over.)

i noticed.

classic personal attack

while revealing a personal ugliness

of spirit that goes way beyond anyones physical appearance.

we do it too, a common sin when were acting naive and unenlightened...

makes the oposite behaviour, despite temptation, even more charming and attractive eh?

LMAO...

war-dog waited around for an hour and a half to make a snide remark

#

"make me feel good, rush... tell me lies, rush... say i'm special, rush... i'll lick your feet if you support my disgusting reprehensible mindset!!"

when he comes back to the blog full time. He has his own troll and

that troll gets personal and dirty. Could have been War Dog as he was

here a few moments before that post. Chubby will have to refuse to

go for the bait that is going to come his way from this guy.

he makes dickheads feel good

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 10:42am.
They should sent his fat ass back in the poky for life, then he might trim down.
He's still a ugly fat bastard.
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Congratulations. Your previous record was a fifteen word post primarily monosyllabic but for four words of two syllables each.

Your impressive post above sports twenty-three words, twenty of which are monosyllabic with the remaining three solidly in the two syllable camp.

At this rate, you will soon post thirty words having a grand total of thirty syllables. I eagerly await the triumph.

that troll has been insulting chubby, et al, for years

he's the nic-stealer from the last blog

and he also reproduced a personal conversation

when i say "he"

i mean "them"

they monitor the blog 24/7

we can both claim ugly and fat,

both of us having parents of record

let's us shrug off the "bastard" label.

not that it matters, i used to raise bastard

kids and found them suprisingly humane and positive.

we've focused on them...

so they're happy

they need us

otherwise they wouldn't be here

post whores for elites who would avoid them like the plague if they encountered them in their political world.

lonely attention sucks too. no biggie. to avoid being a hypocrit i have to admit to the same levels of ignorance and hate in my own past.

i'm waiting to see if they move beyond that. christ might and probably is a compounded myth, but the ideas he espoused are high standards indeed.

boils down to loving those around you even when you don't want to. gets easier though when one admits their own flaws and embraces compassion and sympathy despite the difficulties.

I've been contemplating more accurate monikers for the formerly chubby Bubba. So far, my favorite is Hubba-Hubba Bubba, though it implies a higher degree of appreciation for his good looks than I possess.

oh, fuck up...

for christ sakes

i always liked his Rajah of Bhong persona too.

AO the roovert having been a recipient of said love

is still embarrassed by it. ha! snorky boy! i admit to

pushing the envelope of tuff love and delight in busting you

for the very same. i think yer predisposed to wandering in the desert tho.

then you posted //ubba dubba bubba//

rendering my last post (a nasty one) obsolete

: )

we're busting rule two big time this AM.

rule # 3A- it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

what can i say?

i love edged weapons.

it's off to bed i go...

(before i attack again)

(the missing post)

they're vermin, s.j.

if you wanna stick it in a cockroachs arse

be my guess

i don't buy that buddhist bullshit

:p

zen jive?

here? i'm shocked!

truly!

i don't think i've ever shocked you before

http://www.samsedershow.com/comment/reply/1547#comment-form

oh, is the laundry man here

that's not your job

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