Maron V. Seder

come on now---i dont want to beat you to this each time---thanks sam!

wait sam dont start with me---i'll be right back!!

Who's that guy on the right?

You sounded great Marc!

I have a frozen frame.

Republicans for Voldemort

EXCELLENT MARON ON THE MADDOW Little boats

Waah! It's not working - stalled & no image on R - the strange guy is gone!

hey, handsome

doin the hood and fenders at this stage.

had a bad layer of primer from a previous repaint that i had to deal with yesterday, bout a zillion lil crack in the fibreglass hood, but i don/t strip glass hoods generally, think i got er fixed.

yesterdiddies pix here:

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/mugzilla/

cracks here:

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/mugzilla/?action=view&current=100...

no biggie i've dealt with them before. check out that cool little bug on the first pic that was nice enuff to land in the fresh paint AFTER it had dried...

efresh!

Sam's still "frozen in time."

If we listen to the land, we will know what to do. - Terry Tempest Williams

Aha!

There's da man! Looking good now. :)

really suggestive

seeing you fumble with chords is part of the fun

Finally!

This music just sounds like cacaphony = S

& I know it's 'The Blues' - but still....

I love the rawness = )

also adds to the entertainment value!

ha! tech fringes!

(hire the catz)

Moxie? LaFonda?

Glad to hear you got it!

Poor Marc...

Life sucks for him!

big audio delay, cn u guys hear each other?

wow never thought about that, kind of deep

catz critique everything.

it's the little rating signs they hold up that irritate me.

i would like as a title

You were great filling in for Rachel last night Marc. It was great to hear the laughter again. Just like old times.

those east german cats are the worst!

One of Maron's cats...

I wish you were on EVERY night.

of irritability and chaos.

we heed a political off button.

Ran to get some breakfast.

Learning snagit. Thanks for your email :)

*Ahem*

Marc's been to a few AA meetings in his time. ;-p

good at gymnastics though

on obama!!

when they lick themselves, they don't see the hypocracy

yes, the campaign went into early bullshit phase

[edit!]

whats new pussy cat?

that it's the "smilie" signs and especially the roll eyes that get to him.

Cigars to cats to cantelope

I even missed the new thread - but at least I made the show on time. :)

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

you are right---corporations and hillary!!!

that looks like a shot from the Bad Cat book

Obama can't say that, he'd lose his cash stream, too.

the breakfast of a true champion!

[plus a big glass o' black coffee]

A SHOW WHERE YOU HEAR AN OCCASIONALLY REALISTIC FUCKING COMMENT!

Marc,
Really enjoyed you covering for Rachel last night, looking forward to tonight.
We miss you.

Looking forward to getting my fix of you here with Sam.

Mike

Marc said something I've been afraid of, Obama might be a target. His wife was worried before he decided to run!

If we write comments here can he read them?

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Sorry 'bout that folks.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

It seems to be fading out; anyone else having this problem?

Cigars to coffee to cats to cantelope

before regarding palestine and israel---which got me heated anyway--

around?

Auugh! They're out of sync = S

What I mean is, there seems to be some sort of delay...?

it's a bullshit flurry

and the real news makes me depressed

He might check e-mail but no blog or IM

i think he's spot on - and he puts it through in a funny way if that's even possible

not nice---shit shaven and shampooed huh?

i blame gainful employment

Maron, my kinda guy----tell it like it is---no holding back!!!

Marc,
Now that You, Janeanne, and Al are all gone from Air America, it has lost most of its funny. I really liked the pairing of Comedians with Radio hosts, the cross-pollination worked for me.

you might still have kids dude, you're young enough

Just curious if he saw any of the comments written about how we enjoyed him on Rachel's show last night.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

they're part of the game

you are so right on the money there!!!

of the free Afghan Air Force!

vitamin water---

two sides of the same problem

meanwhile, no true progress.

they still win

just told you yesterday that i wanna see this movie!!

"Test cases. Mere beginnings. You might alter the population's disposition slightly by -influencing a few individuals but you won't change it radically. What a paucity of result for the effort expended. . . . But suppose we had the ability to predispose an entire population to exhibiting more desirable and compliant attitudes, say by introducing suitable chemical agents on a mass scale—which could be accomplished by any of several means. Because I think that could be the next step in this—provided we can learn enough about the relevant transfer patterns to encode them into molecular form. And who knows. Maybe, one day, we could actually fuse it into the genome and make it hereditable. So once society was conditioned into being untroublesome, its traits would automatically be passed on, which would enable us, its rightful rulers, to govern unthreatened and effectively, without the inconvenience of having to indoctrinate every generation afresh. In other words, we are standing on the threshold of a whole new age."

not for long

I've had a really strong link since the show started. It would be great if someone could dump a screen capture. I can't.

give them the ammo, and they control it

whole one minute...am i just left hanging---

lucille
new
Submitted by bibimimi on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 11:29am.
two sides of the same problem

meanwhile, no true progress.

they still win

Turn yer mic up a bit.

Maron sounds like he's in the room. You sound like you're calling from the moon.

of the cam (sam's this time) freezes - don't wanna take a chance on refreshing and miss on some of the rant - the flow suffers - too bad all these technical glitches - marc is on fire today - great show but for the technicalities

isnt that Air-ono's song?

i thot it was a loop

"Sheep can't rule themselves. They're not capable of determining in which direction their true interests lie. Society will produce an elite whose natural role is to know and decide, just as the place of the rest is to follow. But discipline and firmness are essential for such an order to prevail—and, if need be, ruthlessness."

Lookin' Great Sunshine Jim! Can't wait to see more photos

Missed a key!

i made this last week:

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I mean, who are we to judge the fuzzy little pervs?

G'morning bibimimi, Lucille, Jim!

ToniD, I saw your demonstration on the last thread. Hope you have fun with it. I don't use it very much but I'm glad to have it in my bag of tricks.

Don't mind me, I'm very s-l-o-w today.

There's a new commercial about cables and wires rolled up in a ball and the ball is bigger than buildings.

showing off his lapel pins!

wear a half-dozen flag pins on a Che t-shirt

that would be a great t-shirt

[while i'm on the subject of laundry]

he likes the IM...

maron refers to us as "stalkers".

whole shituation FUBAR.

(and maron thinks HIS life is depressing)

I live for the irony...

Much of what we all need to know about corporate interests is in the documentary, The Corporation.

But I'm sure everyone knows that already.

I like that.

Ya, toniD. I think I figured out how to get a capture now but I can't post it until I reboot.

which stinks. the blog, while inefficient to him, is more communal, we can all see who he's responding to. IM is just for/to him...

Sam,

Why are the Dems still going along with this.....????

Very Confused

Austin Texas

they still refuse to look at the BIG picture.

and they've shined on the incredible team of researchers they had here.

i used to nag sam about giving the bloggers recognition but i gave up years ago. what a waste eh?

You can watch it at Google Video.

The Majority Report with Janeane Garofalo interviews Joel Bakan, Author of the book & Producer of The Corporation.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3440190958692448485

"corportions, treated as people. if corporations were people under psychoanalysis, they'd be diagnosed as socio/psychopathic basket cases"?

i got pissed off when my ideas of building a reference base were blown off.

I think you can put IMs in chat but maybe there is a privacy thing he wants. I'd love to see all of the IMs to see where the ideas and contributions are coming from.

Wiretaping continues
new
Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 11:42am.
Sam,

Why are the Dems still going along with this.....????

Very Confused

Austin Texas
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Read Glen Greenwald's article...

“Two months after vowing to roll back broad new wiretapping powers won by the Bush administration,” the NYT writes, “Congressional Democrats appear ready to make concessions that could extend some of the key powers granted to the National Security Agency.” Glenn Greenwald suggests “the picture is more complicated and less depressing than this NYT article suggests.”

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

again and marc hopelessly throwing f's around

These people are doing the right thing, challenging the concept that corporations have the same rights as persons:

http://www.alternet.org/story/61737/

"This is the strangest debate format I have ever seen." -Joel

yes. that would be SOMETHING. but we get nothing like that.

thats funny!!!

Marc, Sam,
When one of you freeze, the other us usually live, keep talking until the other is live again and then you can sync the conversation.

Even with the freezing this is quite interesting and entertaining.

I'm wondering why it works fine and then it doesn't?

which was a hopeless groping for some solution to the politico-existential question of our time (do we have to scrap capitalism in toto?)

Is someone sabotaging this?

..god this is great. like AAR glory days. Does anyone know if the first three were archived in any podcast or vidpostcast form? God I'm pathetic

ßarter-based economy?

them trust fund kids would be screwed!

2 Iraqi women killed by convoy guards

2 Iraqi Women Killed by Convoy Guards; Suicide Car Bombers Kill at Least 19 in Northern City

Guards in a security convoy opened fire on a car at an intersection in central Baghdad on Tuesday, killing two Christian women, police said. Separately, suicide car bombings targeting a local police chief and a Sunni sheik working with U.S. forces killed at least 19 people.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2007/10/2_iraqi_women_killed_by_convoy...

Why doncha play the guitar while we wait?

If this affected shopping in any way, my teenager would be crushed.

they were probably looking for me and tracked me to this site!!!

now cutting in and out

pick up a cat!

Only without the AAR budget :( Sam and Marc were always my favorite radio talents.

Our servers are up and running - looks like the black copters may have swooped int and taken Sam down...

11:55 am right about now!!

He is back -

back @ the truth trough

are you on IM?

Cammys are back in order

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Yes I am as always.

what can I do for you?

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

and walk into...

Limbaugh on his ear

Julie is too morally compromised

Got to run off the class, talk to you all later.
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He is a ghoul!

Gha! I can't stand him!!

funny!

the gold - the fuel - building 7 - giuliani love nest (bunker)

what about the gold in the basement?

Top Mafia Figure, Tony Gambino, Implicates Vatican And Bush in
Prior Knowledge And Complicity in 9/11 Mass Murder

"I know for a fact Bush, the Pope and other top Vatican and U.S.
government leaders had prior knowledge and help organize 9/11. They
did it for many obvious reason, one being instigating the war in Iraq. But
they also did it to get their hands on all the gold that was hidden
below in the Twin Towers.

"My grandfather's construction company built the Twin Towers and
after it was completed, I know they went in and put in big underground vaults
to house an enormous amount of gold which is now in Bush's and Vatican
hands in order to fund the war."

that'll be my next comic "That comes with fries or a salad." "What about tower 7?" "Can't we just order lunch?"
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Enjoy yourselves!

the thinktank that the world ignores

control and insanity...

the money is just for keeping track

"we do it because we can"

cheney

It does not matter wheter you work for goverment or a private business this country is failing.

We want to be a me society and not a we scoiety

can someone please tell me where anyting is fair and just?

Austin TX

Cheney's daughter

anything to do with a macaca?

this warm weather is suckitude for me

some kind of macintosh hybrid...one you wrestled
from a raccoon?

who needs drama?

didnt hear that one before thats funny--bubbling juice!!!

i think it's a survelliance device

How's that sound

***

New name?

i thought they were co operating?

how about "Morning angst"?

BEST TITLE EVEN INCLUDES CORRECT INITIALS.

that's a keeper

thank you both

the best so far!

i could have got him couple new boxes from staples...he did not need to use recycled ones c'mon now!!! he is messing up my show...everything is supposed to be new!!!dang!

Word!

it's going to be a tough choice - maybe it should be narrowed down and put to a vote?

thanks for a great show!

Nixon on Thompson: 'Dumb' but 'Friendly'

Fred Thompson has made much of his role 30 years ago as a young Senate lawyer helping to lead the investigation of the Watergate scandal and President Richard Nixon.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/10/nixon-on-thomps.html

http://eartheasy.com/live_natwasp_control.htm

Make a simple Water Trap
Use a razor knife to cut the top from a 2-liter plastic pop bottle. Cut just above the shoulder of the bottle. Discard the screw top. Fill with water about halfway. Coat the neck with jam, invert it and set back on the bottle. Use two small pieces
of tape to hold it in place.

Wasps will go down the funnel to get the jam, but will find it difficult to get out. Most will drop into the water and drown.
A few drops of dish soap in the water will make it hard for the wasps to tread water, and will hasten their demise. (You can also add a 1/4 cup of vinegar to the water to discourage honeybees from entering the trap in search of water.)
Note: In the spring and early summer, wasps are attracted to protein-based baits; use jam or other sweet baits in later summer and into fall.

I agree - but it is their show so ulitmately they will decide.

I gave him Maron'd & Sedated w/Sammy & Marc - to be shortened of course to just Maron'd & Sedated w/ "I Wanna Be Sedated" as a theme song....but he thought it was too tough to remember...and of course the S & M show which everyone likes but they are loathe to go with due to the sexual connotation.

But I will agree that Unshaven w/Sammy & Marc is a great name and they will probably go with it.

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

Unhinged is about right, but I like the Unshaven one, too! That's probably the best!

I love listening to you 2 rant, it's great!
But, you forgot to talk about the FISA stuff & the Dems preparing to cave again!

And what are we going to do about the Dems?

BTW, Marc, you were great last night on Maddow!

keep posting them

Rudy's Past
Set aside the three marriages, his pro-choice and anti-gun positions, the gay roommates, and the pictures of Rudy in drag. Let's be honest. By and large, the only thing interesting about any of those things is the discomfort it causes his fellow Republicans. It ties them in knots and that's fun to watch.

But on the substance of things, there is much about Giuliani's past that doesn't stand up to much scrutiny, especially his business dealings and some of the cronies he's appointed, like Bernie Kerik. Today comes word (via The Politico) of a big lawsuit by a prominent Texas GOPer against Giuliani's law firm and his business partner and close friend and adviser Kenneth Caruso, alleging that they defrauded the plaintiff out of $10 million in a complicated investment deal involving an offshore bank later shutdown amid charges of money laundering.

Giuliani has been around and involved with some pretty mucky characters. It's still not clear the extent to which some of that muck has rubbed off onto Rudy directly. But it's hard to stay clean next to a steady drip of muckiness.

--David Kurtz

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/_rudys_close_friend_and_adviser_is...

Obama
For months I've been quietly hoping that Barack Obama would at least make a race of it with Hillary Clinton. So I was more than a little disappointed when all the metrics of conventional wisdom (in the wise and foolish senses) started showing Hillary leaving Obama in the dust and becoming the dominant frontrunner and presumptive nominee.

Folks who've been watching all this closer than I have, like Matt Yglesias, say part of the issue is that Obama just won't come out and say what his campaign is about. Says Matt, "Watching the primary campaign, it keeps seeming to me as if Barack Obama is making arguments that, while fairly clear to me, must go over the heads of at least half of political junkies, to say nothing of normal people going about their lives."

But the whole thing kind of crystallized for me this weekend when I was reading Maureen Dowd's review of Arthur Schlesinger's diaries in the Times. And, yes, it makes me wonder about myself too that I'm picking up political insights from Maureen Dowd. But here goes. It's her riff on Schlesinger's pained (or perhaps self-indulgent reflection) on his defection from Adlai Stevenson to Jack Kennedy ...

Kennedy has not been “consecrated by inner conviction,” he writes, adding, “I also believe him to be a devious, and if necessary, ruthless man.” But he suspects that his friend Lauren Bacall is right that Stevenson has “a political death wish.”
“The thought of power induces in Stevenson doubt, reluctance, even guilt,” he says. The diaries from the ’50s are an inadvertently hilarious record of the prissy Stevenson’s coy tango with his party. The year after Adlai loses to Ike, he has dinner with Truman, who urges him to take hold of the party. Adlai disingenuously demurs about a lack of qualifications. “Well, if a knucklehead like me can be a successful president,” Truman replies briskly, “I guess you can do it all right.”

But Stevenson is stuck on the same mental pedestal that Barack Obama is on — “split between his desire to win and his desire to live up to the noble image of himself.”

John Kennedy, by contrast, “takes power in his stride,” showing with the choice of Lyndon Johnson — unpalatable to Schlesinger and Bobby Kennedy — that he is “grasping the nettle.”

I don't know if she 'gets' Obama. But I think she's on to some of what's got his campaign stuck in second gear. And I think it's what Matt's talking about too. Obama isn't so much running for the nomination in the sense of reaching out and taking it. He's trying to show us how marvelous he is (and this isn't snark, he's really pretty marvelous) so that Democratic voters will recognize it and give him the nomination.

But that's not how it works in this country. I don't know if it really works otherwise anywhere else. But you have to really want it, come out and say it, take it. I thought about qualities that describe what is at issue. 'Toughness' seems to bound up in meta-national security mumbojumbo. 'Ruthlessness' sounds too, well, ruthless. You have to want it enough that you reach out and take it. Which isn't always pretty and admirable. But that's what it takes.

--Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/055434.php

of audio after I take out the dead space.

I think same-sex marriage does, and will, have an effect on opposite-sex marriage.

Not in an immediate cause-and-effect way, of course. When Adam and Stephen get married in Massachusetts, it doesn't send out magical death-rays across the country to destroy the marriage of Alan and Evelyn in Kansas.

But I think it has an effect. Not a trivial one, either. And I think the movement to legalize same-sex marriage does itself a disservice by acting like it doesn't.

Here's why.

In order for our society to accept or even tolerate same-sex marriage, a lot of fairly basic, deep-rooted ideas have to change. The way we define family. The way we think of what it means to be a man, and what it means to be a woman. The importance of sex and sexual fulfillment. What we consider natural and normal. Etc., etc., etc.

All of these things shape our practice of marriage, our understanding of what it is and what it's for. And in order for us to accept or even tolerate same-sex marriage, all of them will need to change.

Thus changing the shape of marriage. All marriage.

Including the opposite-sex ones. If for no other reason, the standard default answers to these questions will quit being standard and default. If these changes happen, pe