Now

I think unless est stands for estimated

That's all she wrote.

Thank You for YOU on the airwaves and keeping me a wee bit closer to sanity in this 1984 Nation under bush.
Also THANK YOU for having Marc on. It was he and Franken that got me here and then I HEARD You and was "hooked".
I love the passion of Cenk and so GLAD (almost to tears seeing you NOW). AAR BE WISE!

Is sammy on Cenk's Turk cam or on the sammy cam?

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

Crap. Sam's on? Gotta stay up, I guess.

I hope you realize the sacrifices I make for you, SEDER.

Maybe Sammy can make me like him better...take him apart a little...

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

If the Sammy cam is always at that same address when Sam turns it on?
I have replay A/V and am gonna try to save it at 11AM
I may be able to sign on from the road...but, just in case am going to try to save it.

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

Sam, this is the only time I consider Cenk worth watching/listening to. Not a huge fan of him. Like reading him at DKos, but his style just does nothing for me.

Also, where is your IM?

It would be hardly fair to cenk..

I guess he was writing at YK...but from where I was sittign it seemed like he changed his suits alot and stood around with his buddies.
I believe that I blogged that cenk thing at the time...Ill look for the link if I can get the kid ready on time and have a few mins left over.
Sammy was running round rumpled, interviewing people in his hotel room and trying to perfect the early version of the sammy cam...
Not that cenk doesnt have something to say to ex repubs/sorta middle of the road folks....I was lost when they had the girl on ...its been all downhill since them.
I was just reminding myself to not forget to TURN OFF the radio or 'puter before I hear the squeak of Lionel!

Cenk needs Sammy

Melina
www.RIPCoco.com

naw. cenk is too lightweight for sammy. sammy needs his own show.

the same Cenk rejection. I've been a fan of his for a while. I like Ben and Jill too. All of them are good for me.

eastern was confirmed.

in case any one wants to yap at him.

first it was condemning the moveon ad:

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) Criticized The Ad, Calling It "Over The Top." "Other leading Democrats, however, said that MoveOn.org had gone too far. US Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts said on MSNBC: 'I believe that ad was just simply over the top, and I think it's inappropriate, period.'" (Lisa Wangsness, "Ad Critical Of General Assailed In GOP Camp," The Boston Globe, 9/11/07)

and now students get tasered when he speaks (although to be fair it sounds more like a police riot):

Taser

for choosing all bumper music on AAR. Cenk's thing is not my bag.

He asked the cops not to fight and agreed to answer his questions. He is NOT responsible for security being out of control.

don't get me wrong. cenk is good in his own right. wes clark compliments him. of course we all miss jill. i just think sam's style is different then cenk's.

That's what we have.

I'm with you on that dan. Sam is a bit too alpha to wait for Cenk to take a breath.

it might not be wrong but he doesn't seem to be in control of the situtation. its not clear why they cut the kids mike when the he asked the skull and bones question instead of letting kerry dismiss it as a silly question

when peoples attitude all change allowing tasering like this then they are taking orders or cues from our fascist rulers.

This is a police state and he should know better.

this for 40yrs ... we have used different strategies, so I choose not to be like the analogy of Einstein, to paraphrase what he said, "To do the same action and expect a different result is INSANITY."

hmmm. they're just setting the stage for the 2008 elections.

a civilian on the side did. Kerry is not expected to be in direct control of the peace officers in attendance.

The Skull and Bones thing is a dumb fucking question, but Kerry tried to answer. He also asked them not to fight.

Should he have jumped down and laid a beat down?

i am still disappointed with kerry after supporting him in a big way only to have him quit and walk away in 04...

i guess its just a lingering case of suckers remorse.

and that was before you would get tasered for standing your ground.

does that make rent a cops want to use them even more?

I wish he had stood up and taken command of the situation, and demand that all parties exercise some fucking restraint. But I don't fault him for being caught off guard and not reacting quickly enough.

tough question. i've spent the past years trying to teach my kids that the only thing they say is yes sir and no sir when dealing with a cop. in some cities that could be the difference between living and dying but they have an independent don't take crap spirit so you can only hope.

they are "less than lethal".

Can kill ya, but not as likely. As I understand, anyone who is tasered in NYC is required to be taken for cardiac evaluation at a hospital, following the incident. Those things can kill you. I've never been tasered, but I've been hit with a "stun gun", and I've been electrocuted while wiring. Both were very painful. Taser is supposed to be worse.

Kerry stood there and watched as this student was abused by campus police. How could he just stand there and do nothing to intervene.

And I suppose you would have reacted properly?

Do you see how many other horrified, frightened people also locked up and froze when this happened? Kerry's no great shakes, but he certainly doesn't bear any responsibility for a bunch of asshole campus cops.

I'm not the yes sir no sir type. Fuck da police.

a US Senator who wanted to be President of the United States and professes to be a progressive, YES I would have reacted differently. It was his forum. He had power in that situation.

Is there another cam I am missing? It looks like this guy was in the back of the venue so Kerry could have been clueless as if this guy might have actually been a threat. I am sure we'll hear more about this thing unless Michael Vick holds up a dog show.

i just think you need to pick your fights.

It would have been impressive to tell the police to stop -- he's the reason they're acting in theory -- perhaps even bring the guy back to the mic, ask him to quiet down and sort through the problems on the spot. (Sorta Sammy-style when the wingnuts call.) Maybe strengthen our beseiged democracy a little in the process. After a feeble attempt Mr. Tin Man decides to act like it's not there.

- Christolecount

so thompson doesn't do his homework. its just because he's an actor that wants to be president. an empty shell, just like reagan.

was remembering Mick Jagger at Altamont.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO76xbklt64

He had authority to order the cops about? Sorry, not buying.

I'm sorry he did not react forcefully enough, but I'll click over to FOX if I wanna smack Kerry for speaking at an event where the police went out of control. This whole thing spun out of control quickly. It went from a lawful detainment, to police brutality, in a very short time. Again, imo, Kerry can't be faulted for his reaction.

and actually, I have a lot of respect for the law. I am speaking of abusive police. I have too often been insulted by their actions. Then, I think it is appropriate to look rebel. I would gladly put a line on the ground for them to cross over so I could sue the bejezus out of them just to make the point. Don't cross the line.

Police are to protect and serve the public, not to provoke us. If they don't understand that, then we have every right to show them the way.

Tired of you pushing HRC, but I gotta tell ya, if she gets the nomination, I'll be happy to vote for her. Even Clinton is a huge shift left at this point in time.

Good try at poisoning the well, though.

must not have seen the Rockets Kick Line.

that's one of her better pictures wfc?

i believe the word is photogenic

http://www.lies.com/blog/archives/bush_salute.jpg

is he at air america in the city.

Mrs. Clinton,

I think it is a shame you have "sold out" on a health care plan for the people of the United States. Universal Health Care is not the forced "mandating" of people to buy health care coverage like car insurance. Your spokesperson compares your plan to mandatory laws requiring people to purchase car insurance. Since when have you known car insurance companies to deny claims on a daily basis?

People who pay for health care insurance are denied payment for services they need countless times each day. Forcing people to buy insurance does not mean the insurance companies will pay the claims. It won't make understanding the appeals process any easier or any less tasking when the family is already burdened with sometimes catastrophic illnesses. Making the insurance companies actually pay the claims should be legislated before requiring people to purchase a worthless product.

I have had it both ways, to be insured well and to be uninsured. I received better care in some areas of health when I was uninsured. If one needs surgery or has a major medical issue, it is certainly a different story. However, many years ago I once had a $20,000 hospital bill denied by the health insurance premiums being paid through my employer of four years.

It is sad that you have taken money from the pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, now keeping their agenda as a priority instead of the health care of the people of the United States.

I just meant upstate. Apple country. Does he have no AC or is it just that all of the equipment creates a lot of heat?

don't bumb rush the cops.

It's that kind of crap that keeps sheep as sheep. The government IS going to realize to be afraid of it's citizens in my lifetime. You better get used to that.

But,it's not at his house... :)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Good for you. Good for big business. Good for America.

And I worked for a PD and a SO, in my 20's (30 yrs ago), then I went down south to go to school and watch (especially protesting in the 80's) the police turn into
walking ROBOCOPS.

(I was 13yrs when "awoke", 14 when I "hit the streets for the DEMS and Cranston then Feinstein. I feel personally resposible because I helped to first elect her.)

I do fault Kerry. We NEED people with a mouth, people who are bold. I have had death threats by many in L.A. and even up here, but I CHOOSE not to Stand Down and take their names and pictures, so the next time they appear on my signs of me getting arrested, because of the different issues I stand for. For what I stand for the arrests are very physically abusive.

I think Kerry should have been more of a fighter...but he wasn't.

I think more of the students (NOT BLOCKING THE POLICE) should have spoken up immediately and if I was there I would have said something FOR KERRY TO DO SOMETHING.

This was just a VERY WRONG ARREST.

morning yourll

I feel, like one who was to be a President.

I have seen many men and women who can stop a crowd's action, with a few words.

I had Alpha Wolves ... and they had to stop ON MY WORD.
(I was advised of them since I was working To Save Wolves From Aerial Wolf Hunts and now 20 yrs later they are starting again, if not already.)

I Will not be doing things in the same manner as have been done before, which like Einstein "warned", is insane.

Power of the voice CAN BE TAUGHT, especially by Great/Good Acting Teachers or by just Voice Teachers.

HE ONLY BLOODY SPOKE 1min 42sec then to end up tasing him is INSANE!

We are being TRAINED to act their way or else.

The insurance you forgot to buy!

It's not for me....

Watching him via Young Turks

young turks....which is up my alley!!

If someone's got a heart problem, congestive heart failure.... a taser could easily kill someone. Cops shouldn't be allowed to use them unless it's a case where there's an actual crime going on where someone needs to be stopped right now before they harm someone. Cops are going to keep using these things until someone dies and they get sued. It's sad they don't have any foresight. - jayson

http://www.theyoungturks.com/

Do they replay the video later?

I think it loops non-stop until the next show.

I never get anything from the Sam Seder show - even though I signed up for the newsletter a long time ago. I found out Seder'd be on with Cenk through the AAR website but that was by accident. I don't come to this site a lot. Is the e-newsletter in operation? - jayson (mystic23)

University of Florida student Andrew Meyer was tortured with a taser gun yesterday after attempting to use more than his allotted free speech time.

http://www.nytimes.com

I missed enough of the show that I'll want to try to catch it all later.

not seen any progress on the Seder Reader, Jayson.

The Death of Progressive Radio in Memphis

SEPTEMBER 17, 2007 - 02:36 PM

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What's good news for sports junkies is tough luck for fans of angry leftist radio. WWTQ AM-680, once the home of Air America recently became Fox Sports Radio.
"Nobody is more disappointed than I am," says program director Jerry Dean of Air America's local demise.

So what, exactly, killed Progressive Talk in the Midsouth? There was certainly no shortage of optimism in January 2005, when Entercom, the Pennsylvania-based media conglomerate that also operates Memphis station 104.5 WRVR, launched WWTQ.

"The time is right for liberal radio," Michael Harrison, the publisher of Talkers Magazine, the leading talk radio trade publication, told the Flyer. Dean described local support for a progressive alternative to Rush Limbaugh and Mike Flemming as a "groundswell."

"It still seems like a good idea," Dean says, unable to explain why Air America attracted consistently low ratings and failed attract advertisers in solid blue Memphis. He suspects some advertisers were afraid to associate their brand with a liberal station.

"But it's not like liberals don’t buy things," Dean says. "Cars, clothes, and everything else."

WWTQ never found an effective way to localize the station. The eponymous show briefly hosted by Memphis media veteran Leon Gray showed early promise, but Gray's conservative views on issues like evolution and gay rights didn't appeal to listeners tuning in to hear Randi Rhodes and Al Franken. In June 2006, Gray and the progressive talk format parted ways.

We need a woman US President.

outlaw suits.

Thanks, Anon
Submitted by Cat Chew on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 8:36am.

I missed enough of the show that I'll want to try to catch it all later.

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What show is that?

Oversight Committee to Hold Hearings on Blackwater

Oversight Committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman released the following statement this afternoon following the press accounts that Iraq had revoked the license of U.S. contractor Blackwater:

“The controversy over Blackwater is an unfortunate demonstration of the perils of excessive reliance on private security contractors. The Oversight Committee will be holding hearings to understand what has happened and the extent of the damage to U.S. security interests.”

One of the first hearings held by the Oversight Committee in the 110th Congress was on February 17, 2007, “Iraqi Reconstruction: Reliance on Private Military Contractors.” Family members of four Blackwater employees killed in Fallujah testified about what they view as profiteering by Blackwater USA, including the company’s alleged failure to provide armored vehicles and other critical safety equipment. The Committee examined the costs of Blackwater’s security operations to the taxpayer and the adequacy of federal oversight of Blackwater and other security contractors. Kathryn Helvenston-Wettengel, mother of one of the employees, gave an opening statement (pdf) delivered on behalf of the families of all four Blackwater employees killed in the infamous Fallujah incident on March 31, 2004:

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=764

Have a good one.

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See ya 'round, Mme. Chew!

...Sam needs to be the new co-host w/Cenk....

Just in case you check as infrequently as I do, I left something for you at your place.

how does the 25% minority of frady cat bed wetter neocon's get away with intimidating the rest of us?

The answer is because we let them do it just to get along. The price is too high. There is no longer any reason to get along with those thugs.

I hope they get that stream fixed. It'll play for a while then it stops, won't reload automatically. Frustrating.
- jayson (mystic23)

Fernando---un-patriotic dude!!!!thats what you get for asking questions--better still tasered!!!

on this site? It is having trouble loading.

I think AAR needs to give Sammy & Cenk 6 hours. That would be INSANE & Kick Ass! Give Lionel the boot.

they messed that up totally. It won't even play on windows mobile products anymore. YOu have to be at a full up desk top to get the feed unless you are in one of the few remaining local stations.

Those people know nothing about how to run a business. They should have stream options and sell the bumpers but they can't figure out squat.

Lucille. Trust me. They know where I live and they know where to step around me. Bastards.

Not a Cenk fan but glad Sam is there!

Chafee quietly quits the GOP

PROVIDENCE — Lincoln D. Chafee, who lost his Senate seat in the wave of anti-Republican sentiment in last November’s election, said yesterday that he has left the party.

Chafee said he disaffiliated with the party he had helped lead, and his father had led before him, because the national Republican Party has gone too far away from his stance on too many critical issues, from war to economics to the environment.

http://www.projo.com/news/content/CHAFEE_GOP_09-16-07_DP751KF.31dd3fe.ht...

“It’s not my party any more,” he said.

Dude, I have been trying screwing with my player the whole morning. It's really distracting.
Janice Brown

the AAR mp3 stream is freaking out lately
new
Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 8:48am.
I hope they get that stream fixed. It'll play for a while then it stops, won't reload automatically. Frustrating.
- jayson (mystic23)

»

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJK10c32Vr4

wake you up in the morning? i dont know i did not get that, but maybe its just me...

Thanks AAR for allowing us to rally around the talent we respect and support.
Janice Brown

i hope the cam works for the Seder/Maron show. will there be a re-broadcast in case I can't hear/watch it live?

- jayson (mystic23)

TYT is my alarm clock.

Sammy, do the Young Turks more often!!! You guys are GREAT together!!!

Sinn Féin

♫♪♫♪ All We Are Saying♫♪♫♪

♫♪♫♪Give PEACHES A Chance♫♪♫♪

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"Parodies for Peace Movement"
(It's called a protest movement.)
PEACHES (aka "Soft and Fuzzy Anonymous")

Federal Prosecutor Arrested In Child Sex Sting

DETROIT -- A U.S. Justice Department official has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a minor.

John David R. Atchison, 53, an assistant U.S. attorney from the northern district of Florida, was arraigned in U.S. District Court in Detroit Monday afternoon.

An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police

Prosecutors said Atchison flew from Pensacola, Fla., to Detroit on Sunday intending to have sex with the 5-year-old girl.

He was arrested at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.

He is charged with enticement of a minor to engage in sexual activity.

According to authorities, Atchison made contact with a detective working undercover for the Macomb County Sheriff's department's.

The detective, acting as the child's mother, allegedly arranged a sexual encounter between Atchison and her 5-year-old daughter, police said.

In deposition, detectives said Atchison suggested the mother tell her daughter that "you found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents."

The undercover detective expressed concern about physical injury to the 5-year-old girl as a result of the sexual activity. Detectives said Atchison responded, " I am always gentle and loving; not to worry, no damage ever, no rough stuff ever. I only like it soft and nice."

The undercover detective asked how Atchison can be certain of no injury. He responded, "Just gotta go slow and very easy. I've done it plenty," according to detectives.

Atchison, a member of the Florida bar association since 1984, lives in Gulf Breeze, Fla., near Pensacola.

He is president of the Gulf Breeze Sports Association, a youth athletics organization.

He described himself online as a family man. His wife is a science teacher at Gulf Breeze High School.

The Macomb County Sheriff's Department and the FBI were a part of the investigation.

Atchison remains in federal custody and a detention hearing will be held on Tuesday.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14132485/detail.html

These are some sick MFers!

these people enjoy torture!?!

I could get used to Sam in the mornings :)

Spy chief: China, Russia spying on U.S.

WASHINGTON - China and Russia are spying on the United States nearly as much as they did during the Cold War, according to the top U.S. intelligence official.

Mike McConnell, the director of national intelligence, says in testimony prepared for a Tuesday congressional hearing that a law passed last month expanding the U.S. government's eavesdropping power is needed to protect not just against terrorists but also against more traditional potential adversaries, such as those two Cold War foes.

"China and Russia's foreign intelligence services are among the most aggressive in collecting against sensitive and protected U.S. systems, facilities and development projects, and their efforts are approaching Cold War levels," McConnell says in his testimony. "Foreign intelligence information concerning the plans, activities and intentions of foreign powers and their agents is critical to protect the nation and preserve our security."

Free Democracy

...Kerry could have been STRONGER and HANDLED the situation so easily, just by his Voice.

Bill Clinton was a STRONG Speaker and Leader!
However, he was too much of a Republican.

The White House has “told nearly a dozen Cabinet secretaries to send letters to Capitol Hill” rejecting Congress’s proposed new funds for their agencies. The “carefully scripted letters” warn lawmakers that their moves would harm “agency operations” and the “integrity of the budget process.” Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) responded that he was “disappointed” in their “rhetoric.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2007/09/18/GR200709...

the Taeser moment this AM.

They are saying the College police did overdo it. But, they said this young man was very defiant.

(me) But that is not a reason to taeser. There were at least five college police surrounding this kid.

But then again, I have seen this action before but with billy clubs and mace here in Chicago in the 60's.

Kerry should have spoken up!!!

President Bush wishes that he could be alongside the troops in Iraq — except that he’s too old.

The Washington Post

At least that’s what he reportedly told a blogger embedded with U.S. troops in Iraq. In the first session of its kind, Bush spent almost an hour on Friday talking with 10 so-called “milbloggers,” including two who participated by video conference from a military base outside Baghdad.

” N.Z. Bear,” one of the eight guests sitting around a table with Bush at the White House, reported: “Responding to one of the bloggers in Iraq he expressed envy that they could be there, and said he’d like to be there but ‘One, I’m too old to be out there, and two, they would notice me.’”

Maybe Bush was just making idle chit-chat. But this would not be the first time the president has appeared unaware of the hardships his war has caused hundreds of thousands of American troops — while expressing a misguided sense of bravado.

He certainly hasn’t ever put himself in harm’s way. The president who avoided serving in Vietnam as a young man has made only three visits to Iraq since declaring that major combat operations were over more than four years ago. All three of the visits were unannounced and featured extensive security.

what did Kerry say about it? if nothing i hope his ass gets sued as well sorry, but these guys have to stand up for us......i can get so mad....what are they there for?

The problem I see is that the Police use tasers to easily ... there is no way people should be getting tasered for anything short of a physical threat on someone.

Anytime someone is tasered for less it should be an assult charge on the cop.

about black water---

Washington Post

Security is deteriorating in southern Iraq as rival Shiite militias vying for power have stepped up their attacks after moving out of Baghdad to avoid U.S.-led military operations, according to the latest quarterly Pentagon report on Iraq released yesterday.

"The security environment in southern Iraq took a notable turn for the worse in August" with the assassination of two governors, said the report, which covers June through August. "There may be retaliation and an increase in intra-Shi'a violence throughout the South," it said, whereas previously the violence was centered in the main southern city of Basra.

Iran has intensified its training and funding of the Shiite militia, and Iranian-influenced militias are believed to be responsible for killing the two governors, as well as for a nearly 40 percent increase in attacks using lethal weapons known as explosively formed projectiles, compared with the mid-February to mid-May period, the report said.

The growing violence in the south is one factor making it unlikely that Iraq's leaders -- hampered by a "zero sum" mentality -- will make headway in the fall on key political resolutions, the report concluded. "In the short term, Iraqi political leaders will likely be less concerned about reconciliation than with consolidating power and posturing for a future power struggle," it said.......

Then you go out there and take the power yourselves...

Stop mewling like a bunch of herd animals wondering why the alphas aren't saving you from the wolves.

That's how the minority has taken and held control for centuries by putting themselves into positions of authority...

Capisca?

Also, it is relatively new and we don't know what the long term problems of being taesered will do to the body.

That would have been a perfect reason for Kerry to stand up and say something. I don't care that the young man was questioning why he backed off on checking into the election. He had a right to ask and talk!

Submitted by zeek on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 7:37am.
...I am sure we'll hear more about this thing unless Michael Vick holds up a dog show.
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Michael Vick is sooooo pre-Britney, pre-Craig, pre-Britney (again), and pre-O.J.

(Or was he post-Vitter and post-Paris and post-Lisa "Diaper" Nowak but pre-Gonzales and pre-Norman Hsu and pre-Steve Fosset? I need to check the Bait News Service archives to be sure.)
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Free Nicole Richie's fetus!

no denying its hard to keep up with current events.

Mystery illness strikes after meteorite hits Peruvian village

AFP

Villagers in southern Peru were struck by a mysterious illness after a meteorite made a fiery crash to Earth in their area, regional authorities said Monday.

Around midday Saturday, villagers were startled by an explosion and a fireball that many were convinced was an airplane crashing near their remote village, located in the high Andes department of Puno in the Desaguadero region, near the border with Bolivia.

Residents complained of headaches and vomiting brought on by a "strange odor," local health department official Jorge Lopez told Peruvian radio RPP.

Seven policemen who went to check on the reports also became ill and had to be given oxygen before being hospitalized, Lopez said.

Rescue teams and experts were dispatched to the scene, where the meteorite left a 100-foot-wide (30-meter-wide) and 20-foot-deep (six-meter-deep) crater, said local official Marco Limache.

"Boiling water started coming out of the crater and particles of rock and cinders were found nearby. Residents are very concerned," he said.

I belong to this new group OTDB. Operation Turn Dupage Blue. I can't march any more but I am in the process of making excel spreadsheets with all the people that voted Dem in the primaries here. And we are culling people who have held office before into another list, trying to get them to run against the Repubs in this area, who have never or rarely had any opposition.

Also we are using these lists for raising money to support these people.

So I am doing something that I can do.

The Senate will vote today on a bill to provide the District of Columbia with voting rights. The legislation, which has passed the House, would give D.C. a full voting member of the U.S. House while also providing Utah an additional seat.

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0907/456346.html

Sen. Ken Salazar (D-CO), who previously “has not supported Congress using its ability to stop war payments in order to force President Bush to change direction,” said yesterday that Congress should look at cutting off funds. “If it could be done then I think we ought to take a look at it,” Salazar said.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/salazar_says_troops_want_congress_...

the house and Sam was signing off, I got to fire off an IM about rebroadcasts or vid-casts that are down-loadable.

He seemed to encourage someone to capture the stream and stick it out on youtube. I can not do that from where I am now. Hopefully BestOfTheLeft or some other person will do that for us.

Janice Brown

Janice Brown

Submitted by toniD on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 9:51am.
I belong to this new group OTDB. Operation Turn Dupage Blue...
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(More noble by half than Operation Turn Doobage Free.)

Free Democracy

IMRA

American officials have complained recently that Israeli immigration authorities harass American citizens of Arab origin at Israeli border crossings.

During meetings between senior State Department officials and their counterparts in Israel, the Americans said that in recent months there has been a troubling increase in the number of complaints by American citizens of Palestinian and Arab origin, regarding the treatment they receive at border crossings and airports in Israel.

The Americans complained about long delays, a suspicious attitude, and degrading security checks.

The State Department officials stressed that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was very perturbed by this issue and said they expected immediate improvement....

later guys. Wow, that feedback is rough. Heehe!
Janice Brown

I know Toni...

My point is more that power is all too often weilded by those that shouldn't have a drop of it...

The strategy the right wing have been using to shape our society in general is just this...Putting ppl in every place of power no matter how small...In unelected government jobs for instance...

This gives them a supernormal volume to their collective voice as compared to the majority...

This allows them to effect our society disproportionately to their numbers...and it was already out of kilter due economic disparities...

Take over those government jobs...get elected to anything that you can...take up any free soapbox...If you're of a corporate mind...Take them over...Don't like what the oil companies are doing...Figure out how to become the CEO and change it...

Screw the tech jobs...screw the creative jobs...screw those damn jobs that only serve your own vanity...Become the powers that be...Take over the Law, The bureaucracy, The government, The corporations, The banks, The military, The intelligence agencies, The media...Then and only then can you change this country, this world without a civil war...This is how the minority rules the majority...This is how they've always done it.

Salon writes that Iraqis who seek redress for the deaths of the civilians at the hands of U.S. contractors in a criminal court are out of luck. Because of an order promulgated by the former Coalition Provisional Authority, “there appears to be almost no chance that the contractors involved would be, or could be, successfully prosecuted in any court in Iraq.”

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/09/18/blackwater/

conyers at 11 on the span?? anyone know? jeez i am caught between iraq and a hard place....mmmmm...sam or hearing???

Manilow boycotts ‘The View’ over Hasselbeck

NEW YORK - The man who writes the songs won’t be singing any of them on “The View” — not as long as Elisabeth Hasselbeck is there.

Barry Manilow has backed out of his scheduled appearance on the morning talk show after the show refused to pull Hasselbeck from the interview, “Access Hollywood” has learned.

Manilow, a long time friend of Rosie O’Donnell, posted the following message on his Web site:

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I just heard on the BBC that the Iraqi's might charge those contractors and tell the US to stick Rule #17 up their ass ... Rule #17 gives contractors immunity.

This sounds like it's going to be a big fight on who is running the show

I am enjoying your mic tests, you both sound pretty good.

First you want to muscle out poor Cenk and take over his show.

Didn't you figure out that Seder lost his slot because...nobody but a couple dozen of you guys were listening? You think the Greens put Sammy in the Dead Zone of Sunday afternoon "despite" getting "monumental ratings"?

I wonder if any of your morons are going to EVER figure out that Seder just doesn't have a "knack" for radio. Nor did sweet Janeane. And the Arbitrons proved it.

Second, love the fact that John Kerry is now a "police state fascist". How long ago was it that you guys liked JFK-2 (again) because he was out there hitting the White House hard on Iraq or FISA or whatever. How long until he says something "strong and forceful" again...and you guys love him again?

Third, if you don't like "Hillary-care-II: The Wrath of Khan"....tough titties. (obvious joke there). She's stomping Barry O' by 20% even in South Carolina, where the black vote makes or breaks the primary (Edwards is a piss-poor 7%).

She's the nominee...get used to it. And get used to her health care "reform" being the "solution" to the "crises".

And have a nice day------your ol' pal Gare

www.ericblackink.com

The federal Office of Special Counsel is investigating allegations that Rachel Paulose, U.S. attorney for Minnesota, mishandled classified information, decided to fire the subordinate who called it to her attention, retaliated against others in the office who crossed her, and made racist remarks about one employee.

Paulose did not return phone calls seeking her comment. Black Ink will publish any response that she makes.

The investigation has been under way since June. The Office of Special Counsel, which handles complaints about retaliation against whistleblowers and prohibited personnel practices by political appointees such as Paulose (that’s her at the podium in the photo at right), appears to be taking the allegations seriously. Investigators from two of its regional offices have been to Minnesota to interview witnesses and may be back for more. I could not find out when the OSC, an independent executive branch agency that is not part of the Justice Department, might complete the investigation.

The allegations also undermine the claim, which was put out for public consumption in April, that four top supervisory officials in the office had voluntarily stepped down to lower positions because of differences with Paulose over management style. The highest ranking of those four, former First Assistant U.S. Attorney John Marti, resigned after learning that Paulose was about to dump him. Marti, who remains in the office as an assistant U.S. attorney, also declined to discuss the matter.........

As we reported yesterday, Admiral Michael McConnell, the head of the U.S. intelligence community, goes before the House Judiciary Committee today to defend the August revision of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But he's also seeking to salvage his reputation as a straight shooter following a recent fusillade of inflammatory and false comments about the new law, known as the Protect America Act. Since the law, which Democrats mistrust, largely allows domestic-to-international surveillance to proceed on McConnell's say-so, restoring trust is imperative for him -- lest Congressional Democrats, as they've promised, scale the law back.

Unsurprisingly, then, here's how he begins his opening statement to the committee:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004209.php

Paulose under investigation by feds
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It always seems to me that the first hour is nothing but speeches for the camera's in these hearings ...

House Committee
Warrentless Domestic Surveillance
Judiciary
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 201036 - 09/18/2007 - 3:00 - No Sale

Conyers, John Jr. U.S. Representative, D-MI
Wainstein, Kenneth L. Assistant Attorney General, Department of Justice, National Security Division
McConnell, John Michael "Mike" Director, Office of National Intelligence

The House Judiciary Committee held a hearing titled "Warrantless Surveillance and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act: The Role of Checks and Balances in Protecting Americans' Privacy Rights" to consider changes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&r...

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Check the Sammy Cam

Marc just arrived in screen two.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717

I haven't seen it .. but the person that posted it says that Kerry asks the cops to "calm down"

The legislation, which has passed the House, would give D.C. a full voting member of the U.S. House while also providing Utah an additional seat.

Today, eh? Virtually guaranteed another Republican or Blue Dog asshat from Utah. But still, it's long overdue for DC to have full voting rights.

Morning. :)

maron has a few rough edges there. nothing a gillete and a shower can't fix.

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HA!

That is horrid!!! That poor kid!

Kerry asked the crowd to calm down. But that wasn't enough!

He should have demanded that the police release this man.

found to have E-Coli.

What next!?! And that wasn't from China!

He just spent a month in Scotland.

Five minutes until the return of MARON!

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Republicans for Voldemort

Poll: Americans unhappy with Bush policy after Iraq speech. In a new CBS poll released yesterday, most Americans “say the plan President Bush announced last week for troop reductions doesn’t go far enough. … Nearly half want Mr. Bush to remove even more troops by next summer than he proposed in his address. Forty-seven percent say the plan to bring troop numbers down to pre-surge levels next year should go even further.”

Additionally, just 31 percent say escalation “has made things in Iraq better, while more than half (51 percent) say it’s had no impact. Eleven percent say it’s made things worse.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/17/opinion/polls/main3268663.shtm...

is like the poor guy who has stepped in dog crap. no matter what he does he can't get it off his foot.

it seems like kerry just can't catch a break.

Leahy: No hearings until White House hands over records. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) is demanding the White House turn over information necessary to complete a number of Judiciary Committee investigations into Alberto Gonzales’ tenure at the DoJ. “All I want is the material we need to ask some questions about the former attorney general’s conduct, on torture and warrantless wiretapping, so we can legitimately ask, ‘Here’s what was done in the past, what will you do?”‘ Leahy said. The White House appears unwilling to compromise:

“No” was the answer one senior adviser gave when asked whether the White House is willing to tie the nomination to the production of such documents.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/18/leahy-no-hearings-until-white-house-...

is that the way this works?? frozen pictures?

Test shots. I'm sure.

and he would've been ignored...no authority and besides...they wouldn't have stopped for anyone until the kid was restrained...that's what they're trained to do...

I emailed him - told him I was disappointed in his lack of response - he should have stopped the "cops" - he's a real piece of work

i keep hearing that bush's numbers are up since last week. don't know if its wishful thinking or what.

personally i've heard enough to start impeachment hearings.

After this, I'll likely go over and check out Sam's performance with Cenk...

Play Hardball? Finally?

We need them to stand up to Bush no matter what! I think they will get much more support from the people than they imagine.

naw. thats what we get for commenting about the pre-show feed. wonder if thats a cuban maron is smoking. nothing like cigars and coffee to get that morning voice in shape.

stream, frozen stills.

I got sound

SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea strongly denied Tuesday that it has provided Syria with secret nuclear cooperation, claiming the charge was fabricated to block progress in the North's relations with the United States.

North Korea's Foreign Ministry said the country has upheld a pledge made last October, when it conducted its first-ever nuclear test, that it would be "a responsible nuclear weapons state" and not transfer any nuclear material out of the country.

The North "never makes an empty talk but always tells truth," the ministry said in the statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.

The comments were the first by the government in Pyongyang on the issue since suspicions arose after an alleged Israeli air raid earlier this month on unknown Syrian targets.

A senior U.S. nuclear official said Friday that North Koreans were in Syria, and that Syria may have had contacts with "secret suppliers" to obtain nuclear equipment.........

We're live and audio is happenin!

Mornin gang!

Bad timing.

U.S. Attorney Paulose Dresses Down Employee Using Terms ‘Fat,’ ‘Black,’ ‘Lazy,’ And ‘Ass’
Eric Black at the Minnesota Monitor writes that the U.S. attorney in Minnesota, Rachel Paulose, is under investigation. The federal Office of Special Counsel is looking into allegations that she “mishandled classified information, decided to fire the subordinate who called it to her attention, retaliated against others in the office who crossed her, and made racist remarks about one employee.”

Highlights of the charges:

– Paulose mishandled classified information. Black writes that Paulose regularly received “status updates on the war on terror” from intelligence and law enforcement agencies. The “secret” reports were supposed to be locked up, but Paulose “regularly left the reports loose in her office, sometimes unattended.”

– Paulose threatened to fire an employee who raised concerns about the material. Then-First Assistant U.S. Attorney John Marti spoke to Paulose about safeguarding the classified materials and “as required by regulations, filed a report with the national office that oversees U.S. attorneys.” Paulose began “threatening” to fire Marti and “bad-mouthing” him to other colleagues. He eventually resigned.

– Paulose repeatedly retaliated against employees suspected of “disloyalty.” Paulose “allegedly said that she would make the woman so miserable that she would want to quit. In some instances, Paulose allegedly ordered those in charge of performing job evaluations to downgrade the reviews of those she considered disloyal.”

– Paulose called employees racial epithets. “Paulose allegedly denigrated one employee of the office, using the terms ‘fat,’ ‘black,’ ‘lazy’ and ‘ass.’”

In April, four top staffers to Paulose voluntarily demoted themselves in protest of her “highly dictatorial style” of managing. She also “earned a reputation for quoting Bible verses and dressing down underlings.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/18/paulose-investigation/

video. Much.

frist

CUTE!!!!

Tell him there are over 100 people here!!

Maybe more than a small Comedy Club!

but I do love Maron and Seder together...

Maron!

i have clarity!

won't work from here.

Iowa Democrats Exclude Kucinich & Gravel From Events

Meanwhile Congressman Dennis Kucinich has accused Democratic Party leaders in Iowa of excluding him from two presidential events this week. On Sunday six of the Democratic candidates were invited to speak to over 12,000 Democratic voters at Senator Tom Harkin's Steak Fry. But Kucinich and former Senator Mike Gravel were not invited. They also weren't invited to a recent Democratic presidential forum in Davenport Iowa. Kucinich said: "When Party leaders and their allies pre-select which candidates they will allow the voters to hear, it's a disservice to the voters. Iowans deserve better than a rigged game."

Sound and picture are both WAY better for me today. And I second the comment from yankeesfanz about Sam looking very cute today :)

Republicans for Voldemort

A Jew and a Sunni got along just fine. Almost like bro's. It was awesome.

Did I catch that right? Is Mrs. Maron 2.0 no longer Mrs. Maron at all?

weird. i can see and hear Sammy ok, but no Maron-Cam.

no sweat!

both of you are doin fine.

know exactly what he means.

huge amounts of denial.

My 2 favorite radio people. Maron, you could just sit there and stare and it would be OK. Speaking of America, we need both of you guys on the air, EVERY FREAKIN' DAY!

PLEEZE....i am listening/watching...wow Sam is a looker given!!

Hi everyone-- is me.

no wonder he's upset.

we could fix this whole planet in ten years if we put our mind to it globally.

dicks on this blog...wow!!!namely anon!!!

of a really important show. I can't even enjoy it as much as I would like because Sam's doing this while I'm having to work, but what I've seen/heard is fantastic.

Pioneers if they actually go through with it.

?

there are 15 online and 106 guests from what I can see.

CIGARS

When I was a youth I used to take all kinds of pledges, and do my best to keep them, but I never could, because I didn't strike at the root of the habit--the desire; I generally broke down within the month. Once I tried limiting a habit. That worked tolerably well for a while. I pledged myself to smoke but one cigar a day. I kept the cigar waiting until bedtime, then I had a luxurious time with it. But desire persecuted me every day and all day long; so, within the week I found myself hunting for larger cigars than I had been used to smoke; then larger ones still, and still larger ones. Within the fortnight I was getting cigars made for me--on a yet larger pattern. They still grew and grew in size. Within the month my cigar had grown to such proportions that I could have used it as a crutch. It now seemed to me that a one-cigar limit was no real protection to a person, so I knocked my pledge on the head and resumed my liberty.
- Following the Equator

Dan Beard's illustration from
the first edition of
FOLLOWING THE EQUATOR
courtesy of
Dave Thomson

Did he and his wife split?

...to God's inbox, Dan.

pay to hear Sam & Maron than a premium fee for Lionel!

more definition on him would not be helpful at all.

my bad. i just needed to reload and I can see both sam and marc now.

- Jayson (mystic23)

the movie, Pump Up the Volume - it is Pirate AV at its finest.

http://www.twainquotes.com/cigarsmoker.jpg

ßibi finlee in le hizzie

this is GREAT and I luv it

more, please.

Stalker, no. Fernando, si.

they should do an interview with her...

you'd be a good dad.

havin' a stogie and a coffee

paying for, and I very much second the opinion of how I would pay for this in a second rather than paying premium for Lionel. In fact, I would much rather pay for this than hear Lionel for free.

Republicans for Voldemort

Cali looks nice this time of morning...

hear no, retarded, and see no

CNN should hit that

sammy potty mouth!!!

He'll send out an e-mail about this in a few months saying it shouldn't have happened and he is taking a stand against rent-a-cops or something.

where to find sam..maybe he will stop calling in to NPR...

talk about providing INFORMATION to the masses

f-bombs are warranted

More cursing. That is what is missing from AAR! Would more people be able to properly express their outrage?

NBC employee to unquestioned frontrunner

Rehire Marc & Mark and put Morning Sedition back on the air! You could have had him on vs David Lee Roth if you had any fucking business sense!

making it?

He's not listed on the roll call. Someone call and wake him up, he's missing a great show.

Bob Schieffer reaches the startling conclusion that people on opposite sides of political debates make conflicting claims:
As I listened to the debate over Iraq policy last week, what struck me was how people could look at the same situation and come to such opposite conclusions about what they saw-- let alone what to do about it.

From Fairness & Accuracy in Media... and Bob Scheiffer

Think about it. General Petraeus told us the administration policy has led to some success in Iraq. Critics said it has led to total failure.

The general said violence is down in Iraq. Critics challenged his figures and said violence is up.

The general and the president said it is the success we have had that has made it possible to bring home some of our troops. Critics said success had nothing to do with it; we simply don't have an army large enough to keep the current number of troops in Iraq past April.

How confusing! If only there were people whose job was to investigate such contradictory claims and report on who, if anyone, was telling the truth. We could call them...reporters.

his first intractable manlove

The fucking most amazing political show that I've ever seen...

I'm proud.

hopefully this'll be the first of MANY

tallboy!

don't this kick serious ass?

ok how often can these guys do this?
i love it

not operating under any ol' stinkin' paper constitution

Ya it does...I'd pat the guy on the head that first suggested it...

Fuck, fucking, fuckers!

Thanks for peppering my morning with expletives.

I needs me a good f-bomb or two to get me motivated.

This is radio I can listen to.

what happens if you do not have a computer? does that mean you cant watch/listen?

After-hours Seder & Maron...

Nice!

Seder wants to do a contemporary "news-n-views show," Maron wants to do a leftie's version of "Dr. Phil."

Mark: You've used your quota of saying "existential" (or it's derivatives) for the balance of today. *snark*

Oh, and "stalkers"? Really?

What? You want the Paxil-dosed automatons watching the propaganda screens a la 1984? Feh!

I was under the impression this was a dialogue w/ listeners/fans as opposed to being dictated to like FAUX Noise sheeple.

This is too good to miss!

ewwwww.

main guy!!!

GREAT :HUGS: (although you gave my husband an autograph in L.A. for me. I thank you but I also miss the hug) I sorely and dearly miss you and glad to see you back. I knew it was going to be a bad break-up (as I told some), since she was a German-ish Aries compared to a PERFECT Libra (I am a Libra also ;).

I will also later post this, plus a bit more later because you, like others here, are on my site on my space. ;)

I am also impressed that you are into the issues.
I recently lost a dear friend and it is so hard to concentrate... however, You are even using WORDS that he used, yet, believe it, it is their loss, since I know you type and my type of Libras. :HUG:

too!!!

that interview.

i prolly would be missing this

and i would be pissed

Marc

i've always thought of us as a community.

a pretty good set of writers, humorists and researchers.

we're fairly effective at what we do.

about humanity of "the people"? I thought that was off limits.

yes I'd be willing to pay for this (do we know how much yet?)

the timing is not perfect - I am at work and only a certain amount of attention I can give to this. Could this be done at a reasonable time, like in the evening/weekend or at the very least to have it downloadable? Do we know for how long this will run today? I need to get back to my desk job and have been putting it off...it hurts to have to leave this conversation, it's so interesting.........

Its really good to see Maron where he doesn't feel like he HAS to be funny ...a serious side to Maron ....I like it he seems very intellectual
and he looks good

didn't sam say something about a ticket being too jewish? I'd love to see it but I think some shaving and primming might be required dontcha think?

that reminds me...I should probably send an email or something...

This is great. You two are the best. Thanks guys

I am also at work - I have a lot of flexibility so I can tune in, but it just means I will have to stay at work longer to make up for this time. That's why I LOVED having the Majority Report on in the evenings. But something downloadable would be good too.

Republicans for Voldemort

if they let all the websites we work with know some shows are happening they'd get some numbers going.

win-win

I might volunteer for them too

Gotta get my ears lowered here in about an hour.

Gotta letter back from Sen. Byrd. Wanna Hear?

they can do an evening show no prob.

ßut crap, it's almost over!

Who recorded?

Thanks, Don!

Thanks

with a black sausage?

Sign me up.I'm all over supporting you two.

thats exactly what needs to be done BUT Hillary cvan't do it cuz her policies especially this new Healthcare policy is just like the Repubs it's the same kind of thing they do-

red kitties are hot!

I'll subscribe for sure.

sign me up ...

Basicly I was like "How dare you vote to fund this War without a withdrawl date"

He was like "Well, it helped vets and hospitals too"

Said he "dissapointed" that Bush vetoed the original version with the timeline.

Never the less, Mr. Byrd is getting another letter from me. I am very dissapointed.

S&M Online?

thank you!

This is the best morning I've had in a long time. Please keep doing these shows. I'll pay dearly for something this fabulous.

video on demand!!! 1-hour does not work for me!!

Gimme a ring if ya want :)

-Hugs-

ßeating them at their own game™

?

;)

good 2B anywhere!

depleted uranium

but in this case, Democratic Underground

Jimmer, did you just try to call?

Loved the "show" - can't wait until next week!

;)

burst---

learn and move on eh?

Maron got the cats

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uUJTRAK6F_A

thats a good one i can SO relate

Please send email when you do it again.

I so luv this goddamn show!

SAM--

250 viewers with less that 24 hrs notice??

Think big.

THAT IS SUPER DUPER

seriously gotta sleep. good night, everyone. i'm going to bed happy tonight.

Bye

WTG Sam!

loved every minute of it!

I really like the informality of it...

What a great bonus to the day. Thanks for the show Sam and Mark.

was fun eh?

do you have space on the net to post that recording? If not I do, Alice does, a few others do too.

Good on ya, SEDER. Looking forward to more of those.

Now, I have to get some sleep.

WfC

Being able to stream/view Sam and Marc "on demand" would be great. It's great to see both of them again.

Please keep us in touch via the e-mail list or whatever when you are doing this again. Thanks!

Actually beyond cool.

Marc's audio is still on!

Could this be possible after 5?

he's a brilliant comedian. give em our best.

Looking forward to next week!

Thank you so much. This has been a good day seeing both Sam and Marc without restraint. Take care.

: /

If Mark Green was watching? hmm

WELCOME ALL

from the ladies blogxiliary

That was Fan-Freakin-Tastic!!! I'll be there anytime you all want to have a conversation.

That was the best thing I've seen/heard in I don't know how long.

I didn't know Mishna left Marc! What happened? Poor Marc.

bitching about not having work, so those of us watching from work can get canned.

Great idea!

Busy. Wanna speak to him about the true man made attempted genocide, maybe even ixne on the attempted.

I think there was probably more content in that hour than Lionel's show has in an entire week! Not that I can even listen to Lionel's Show.

Good goin' Sam! definitely good to hear from you.
You should do an hour everyday. Just have Maron put Monkey on the video feed.

ID appreciate it. :)

And I'm over 3 minutes in, still haven't heard a word mentioned from/about Sam...

Is still on yesterday's show. I missed it this morning too. Anybody know when todays Turks will be posted?

Hey Nobody - I am thinking you shouldn't bother with the email or something. Something tells me your stalker has given up uncircumcised, balding men...for Lent, or something.

Tee hee :)

Thanks Brett. I'm on the left coast, Gordon Smith country.

No way in hell I'm gettin' up at 3am, not for Sam, Marc or o'possums...

13 lawmakers subpoenaed in bribery trial

13 Lawmakers Say They'll Defy Subpoenas in Defense Contractor's Bribery Trial

ERICA WERNER
AP News

Sep 18, 2007 11:04 EDT

Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, House Republican Whip Roy Blunt and 11 other members of Congress have been subpoenaed to testify in the trial of a defense contractor charged with bribing jailed former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham.

All of the lawmakers said they do not intend to comply with the subpoenas.

The subpoenas were sought by attorneys for contractor Brent Wilkes, who faces a trial in San Diego later this year on more than 30 counts of bribery, fraud, money laundering and conspiracy in connection with his relationship with Cunningham.

Cunningham, a Republican who represented a California district in Congress, is serving an eight-year prison after pleading guilty in 2005 to taking $2.4 million in bribes from Wilkes and others in exchange for millions of dollars in government contracts. As part of his plea deal, Cunningham agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Wilkes' attorney, Mark Geragos, did not immediately return messages Tuesday. Some lawmakers declined comment while others issued statements saying they didn't know why they had been subpoenaed and had no information to provide.

"Despite requests for further information from the law firm, we do not know why Mr. Blunt has been issued this subpoena. We have absolutely no information," said Blunt spokeswoman Antonia Ferrier.

"The House counsel has determined that compliance with this subpoena is inconsistent with House rules," she added.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2007/09/13_lawmakers_subpoenaed_in_bri...

The Young Turks feed just said it was the show from Wednesday, the 12th!