show thread

I plan on listenin' to yer reader's salon 2day fer a bit.

Myla in the tomato patch?

On NBC before Sunday Night Football. West Coast looks like after the game.

;)

Yep..Good post!Thanks. :)
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Hello Madgardener

Laura friends... Benno dropped by and commented.

I wonder is I can stream Sammy-Cam and Olbermann at the same time?

Blog activism in New Orleans at: http://www.risingtidenola.com/

Cui Bono?

Back from hiatus, beautiful in Chicagoland and it should be an interesting day! Lots to catch up on, but I don't think I'll be around to catch the show today. Bummed. Someone please UToob it 4 me so I can drown me brain in Seder and Co. whom I have dearly missed.

This week is the second anniversary of Hurricane Katrina and I urge the Democrats to remind the nation of this shame, even if they participated in the neglect:

WATCH THIS: When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts on HBO

GO HERE: Global Green

Online Petition - everyone should sign, regardless of where you live: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-klsd-am-1360.html
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Don't Let Clear Channel turn The Only Progressive Radio Station in San Diego,into a Sports channel!!
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

"Garofalo's casting may bring about some lively debates behind the scenes. The actress has been a commentator for the liberal Air America radio network, while "24" co-creator Joel Surnow called himself a "right-wing nut job" in a February New Yorker article about the show." Source: http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/news/celebrity/mmx-0824watcheraug24,0...

Cui Bono?

Long time no see!Where ya been?
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Tea Cheers * * ;)

eya YB

was checking out some of the bloggies connected to:

Blog activism in New Orleans at: http://www.risingtidenola.com/

Maitri’s VatulBlog

From Kuwait To Katrina And Beyond

was one of them with some interesting writing and links.

the "17 Poets! open mic" sounded like it would be good to check out at the Gold Mine Saloon,
Thursday evenings starting at 8:00 PM.

701 Dauphine St., Corner of Dauphine and St. Peter

CSubmitted by Sunshine Jim on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 2:38pm.
eya YB

was checking out some of the bloggies connected to:

Blog activism in New Orleans at: http://www.risingtidenola.com/

Maitri’s VatulBlog

From Kuwait To Katrina And Beyond

was one of them with some interesting writing and links.

the "17 Poets! open mic" sounded like it would be good to check out at the Gold Mine Saloon,
Thursday evenings starting at 8:00 PM.

701 Dauphine St., Corner of Dauphine and St. Peter

By David Swanson

If you were a member of Congress, wouldn't you behave completely differently from how most members of Congress behave? I mean, if you had not gone through the process required to become a congress member, but just suddenly became one tomorrow, wouldn't you behave as though you had an ounce of decency? Wouldn't you take your responsibility at least as seriously as your power and your ego? Wouldn't you at a bare minimum seek to represent the wishes of the majority of your constituents, the way you were taught in elementary school a representative is supposed to represent? I have to assume you would, as I assume I would, as I assume a majority of Americans would.

If I were a member of Congress, I would be constantly polling my constituents to find out their views of an issue. And if I felt passionately that they were wrong, I would seek to persuade them. If I could not persuade them, I would vote their view rather than my own. My own view would be suspect in my own mind, not that of a majority of my constituents living outside the Beltway and its influences. And if my constituents' views were too unpopular with moneyed interests to bring in the funds needed to reelect me, then I just wouldn't be reelected. But, of course, all of us with that attitude will never be elected in the first place.

There are people (18 percent of the country) who approve of Congress right now. That's a smaller percentage than believe in UFOs. I'm not going to try to explain it. The other 82 percent are of more interest. Some of them simply oppose anything run by Democrats. Some of them are fed up with the Democrats' refusal to stand up to the Republicans. Some blame the Republicans even though they're the minority. Others find little of any use in either party, but are passionate about the growing gulf between Congress and the people it supposedly represents.
Con't
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

I know today's show is taped, but how many listeners does Sam have and how does the show stack up against the other weekend shows?

Last week we had on the right column 47 online users and 120 guests.

Last week On The Reel had 23 Online Registered users and 1000+ guests.

Does anyone collect data on this?

Rob

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

maybe not. only schrodinger knows for sure :)

"24" co-creator Joel Surnow called himself a "right-wing nut job"
Sorry...

People.

welcome to the bloggie!

whassup?

Show starts in 35 min.

"By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe."

i play poker with god on teus nites and the devil cheats.

we probably know some of the same people!

or have at least heard of them...

Just waiting for the
John Abramson
Overdosed America
interview

leftist cause, which makes it easier to brush off. And I hope that more of us will open our hearts to animals. I also believe that in factory farming and other cruelties conservatives will find some familiar problems — moral relativism, self-centered materialism, license passing itself off as freedom, and the culture of death.”

Vegetarianism, one potential cure for the disease of speciesism, has a long and rich history. A number of individuals noted for their impressive moral, intellectual, social, literary, or political accomplishments were vegetarians, including Edison, Einstein, Gandhi, Kafka, Pythagoras, da Vinci, Tesla, Plato, Tolstoy, Thoreau, Jane Goodall, Cesar Chavez, Isaac Bashevis Singer, and George Bernard Shaw.

Almost undoubtedly these conscientious individuals who respected non-human animals enough to stop eating them confronted some of the same specious, often snide, arguments against vegetarianism that defenders of speciesism still use today.

Consider a brief deconstruction of a few of them:

“A vegetarian diet is protein-deficient and vegetarians become weak, frail, and sickly.”

There is abundant medical and anecdotal evidence to demonstrate that a plant-based diet provides ample proteins for a human being to sustain health to the same extent as those eating meat. There are also some indications that we were almost exclusively vegetarian at one point in the evolutionary process

“Vegetarians have no regard for the “suffering” of plants.”

One of the principal reasons most animal liberationists oppose meat consumption is the suffering it imposes upon non-human animals. Arguing that vegetarians are hypocritical because they eat plants is fallacious for two reasons (which are probably obvious even to those who disingenuously make this ridiculous assertion).

Lacking a central nervous system and even a rudimentary consciousness necessary to experience pain, it would be impossible for plants to “suffer” in the sense that human and non-human animals do.

Admittedly, we do violate the sanctity of life in an absolute sense when we consume a plant, which is why there is some validity to the assertion that “to live is to destroy and kill.” Yet again, as self-aware beings capable of making moral decisions, it is incumbent upon us to minimize the suffering and death which we cause simply by being. Choosing to eat plants rather than animals is one of the most viable means we have of doing so.

Abstention from eating flesh aside, many ardent speciesists argue that the entire notion of animal liberation is puerile and trivial because the world is filled with problems that are “more important” than relieving the misery of non-human animals. But remember that many of these same individuals thrive in a system of savage capitalism which provides them with an “inalienable right” to prosper through exploitation. Terrified of losing their profits, they work vigorously to prevent our society from adopting a more enlightened moral position with respect to animals.

Certainly the United States is not alone in committing shocking atrocities against non-human animals as a matter of routine, but we are the epicenter of the most advanced and malignant stages of predatory capitalism. With the complicity of all of us Little Eichmans (even those who consciously keep their participation to a bare minimum), the moneyed class comprising our de facto government is literally committing crimes on par with those for which we hanged the architects of Nazism at Nuremburg.

Despite the environment of bitter dissent and rage directed at the status quo in the United States, taking extreme action against an increasingly rickety yet still incredibly powerful system would be premature, self-defeating, and perhaps suicidal at this point.

Yet regardless of the considerable number of constraints the ruling elites have upon us, we are still the stewards of our own souls and possess the means to rise above the abject moral poverty of our nation. What better place to start than in the defense of the most vulnerable amongst us?

Remember this week we've got a special show - the Not-for-Summer Reading Show! With authors:

Daniel Brook

Glenn Greenwald

Dave Zirin

Linda Perlstein

Jeffrey Feldman

Juan Cole

John Abramson

That would be Doc Abramson?

Has the facts on Vioxx, Celebrex, cholesterol-lowering statin drugs etc?

http://www.overdosedamerica.com/

it'll be a good interview!

A perspective that allows you to see more of what's happening around you and within you...

Suppose that I, a family doctor, make a house call to see a patient with a pain in the gluteus maximus -- the buttock. In the course of my physical examination I find that the patient is sitting on a tack.

Were I to honor the implicit contract which postulates symptom suppression as the primary objective of my visit, I might administer a quarter grain of morphine, write a prescription for codeine pills, and leave instructions to call me in the morning . The morning report might be something like, "As long as I take the pills, it doesn't hurt, Doc."

In a few days, the pain medicine loses its effectiveness. Time and increasing dosage bring two new developments. The symptom suppression stops and side effects begin to appear. Symptoms may now include nausea and vomiting along with pain in the buttock. Faced with apparent failure of the drug approach, I might recommend surgery.

There are varying surgical solutions to the problem. I could sever the nerve which carries pain sensations from the buttock to the spinal cord, or I could perform a dorsal root rhizotomy. That's a highly specialized neurological operation where we cut the sensory nerve as it enters the spine.

Alternatively, we could freeze the thalamus in the brain, which is thought to be the body's pain center. I might send him to a pain control center where a group of specialists would give instruction on how to live with pain. As a last resort, I might suggest a prefrontal lobotomy, after which there be would be pain, but the victim wouldn't notice it.

If I suggested getting up off the tack, the response would likely be, "But Doc, I make my living sitting on tacks." [1]

Sound absurd? The American Health Foundation reports that some 400,000 new cases of occupationally related diseases are reported each year -- and 100,000 Americans die of them. Furthermore, "the extent of occupational disease is thought to be underestimated because the connection between job and disease often goes unrecognized... " [2]

--excerpted from "Fiscal Fitness" by Vicki Robin,

"Long time no see! Where ya been?"

Mostly traveling, Nola, Ecuador, but also out and about and renovating my place. I took a vacation from the blogs, overall and tried to keep my neck out of the political winds for a while. Sometimes I have to clear my head. Did I miss anything major?

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Does that mean you're coming down to South Louisiana and bless with your poetry?

Ya know All-Ya-All welcome to come enjoy a good time on the Bayou!

Cui Bono?

I just signed the petition, I was #344 - we need lots more signatures. I stream the station every day at work from 9 - 3 EST. (I have XM but I listen to Stacy Taylor instead of that quack lionel and then Thom Hartmann instead of the windbag Ed Schultz) Everyone needs to sign the petition.

Crank had a Golden Pun! :)
Link
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Why doesn't WWRL in NYC play your entire show. What's up with XM not playing the show LIVE? You should be on everyday!!

Doesn't clear channel's new streaming scheme suck? I hate those embedded media players. I don't even have a VOLUME control on my player!

hari hari ganja

Thanks for signing!
I agree with you.
I couldn't believe there weren't More Signatuers too!
That's why I'm pushing it..
Thanks again.
Posts it on any Blog you can think of too.If ya can. :)

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Have you read The China Study by T. Colin Campbell? A plant based diet is absolutely more beneficial on all levels.There is so much misinformation put out by the food industry about a "healthy" diet. Unreal but sadly no big surprise

maybe we can do the bloggie version!

or SKYPE the 17 Poets at the Gold Mine Saloon some night.

Right on vegetarian guy, enjoyed your posts. Janeane is a vegetarian, not Sam though (naughty, naughty.) People don't have to be strict vegetarians, but it at least helps to eat less meat, contribute to less suffering. Plus eating a lot of meat is terrible for your health and waistline anyway.

Keep the dream alive. And stuff.

has canceled a partnership between its police-training institute and a military contractor best known for providing security forces in Iraq and Afghanistan because of a potential conflict of interest.

The company, however, says it hasn't received the letter.

The university, which inked the five-year deal in May, scrapped the partnership with Blackwater USA because the institute's director, Tom Dempsey, hadn't informed the school he was negotiating personal contracting work with Blackwater while helping coordinate the partnership.

In an Aug. 15 letter sent to Blackwater and first reported by the Chicago Tribune (nyse: TRB - news - people ), Chancellor Richard Herman said the agreement was entered into "in a manner which was inconsistent with university policy."

Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrell told The Associated Press Wednesday that the company had not received the letter.

"I can't provide comment on a letter I have not seen and Blackwater has not received," she said.

The agreement between the university and Blackwater didn't mention money, but indicated the Police Training Institute and Blackwater would exchange faculty, work with each other's students and conduct unspecified research together.

Dempsey requested a leave of absence to work for Blackwater in Afghanistan about two months after the agreement was signed. According to the Police Training Institute, he remains on leave while training local police in drug enforcement there.

In an e-mail sent Wednesday morning to The Associated Press, Dempsey said he hadn't yet talked to university officials about the end of the deal.

University spokeswoman Robin Kaler told the Tribune that school officials who signed off on the Blackwater agreement weren't aware of Dempsey's planned consulting work.

"When an administrator is asked to sign off on something like this, he or she needs to have the complete picture," Kaler said.

Herman's letter also said key university officials whose jobs include overseeing the Police Training Institute weren't aware of the deal. The letter didn't name those officials.

Dempsey has denied the agreement gave Blackwater any foothold for future work to run police training classes certified by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board. He has said he was not working for Blackwater when the university signed the deal with the North Carolina company.

Blackwater is well known for its private security forces used by the federal government in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The company also opened an 80-acre police training center, Blackwater North, in April in Mount Carroll, Ill., about 60 miles west of Rockford.

miss the sammycam

present!

but just can't resist a peek at the blog after starting the audio stream!

had a bumpy summer.

"Cable News Confidential" by Jeff Cohen is inspiring.
As is the concept of an expanding universe.
Anyway.
Sam ... & everyone ... I hope this day remains wonderful & inpiring 4 you all. Turn the knobs to 11.

Many blessings...

here!

It would be Great!Petition needs more exposure.Thank you! :)

Online Petition - everyone should sign, regardless of where you live: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-klsd-am-1360.html
:)
Don't Let Clear Channel turn The Only Progressive Radio Station in San Diego,into a Sports channel!!
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Does anyone know? Will Sam be reprising his role as the Devil? I saw an add and Lucy Premiers on Sept 9.

And guess what? Clear Channel is doing it again! They want to change KLSD 1360 AM into a Sports Talk station. How WRONG is that? Please voice your support for Liberal Talk Radio by writing a short and polite email to the station:
support@1360klsd.com
There’s some information on the station’s home page:
http://www.1360klsd.com/main.html

SIGN THE PETITION at saveKLSD.com:
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-klsd-am-1360/sign.html

http://www.saveklsd.com/
SaveKLSD.com also has a lot of other information about the current state of KLSD, along with many great links for more information about the chronic siege of Liberal Talk Radio brought about by the Corporate Media.

This is OUR media, and these are OUR airwaves, God damn it. Let Clear Channel know you are not going to put up with their corporate bullshit.

Listen to KLSD online:
http://www.klsd1360.com/streaming.html

raining here, nice day to listen!

popcorn anyone?

? Composite from recent stuff?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/25/11360/4000

The blog is working, good one. And this guest is great, 26 years of consertavive rule is forcing us all to work for the coporate masters. They hold all the cards so you have to play by their rules, that's how monopolies work, thanks to Regan for " Relaxing the anti-trust laws".
The WTO & NAFTA has a lot to do with this too, thats why I made it my labor Day cartoon.
Cartoons with a progressive edge
www.whatnowtoons.com

No. Canned but all new!

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Sam Seder should be on every day. Laura Flanders should be brought back to her weekend time slots. Clear Channel should be regulated and forced to give up some of their stations because they do NOT want to air successful progressive radio.

Clear Channel locked out alot of users with their new streaming scheme. People with small internet devices like soundbridges and phones can't connect to the stream anymore. Anyone thinking over there?

it's gittin quite in here

this was done during kos? or thereabouts?

Lauren! what's the story on these please?

ßenjo was The Devil. Sam was The Senator and one of the priests.

on where power lies in America, and what they will do to maintain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20sRFPAbDQw

The assassination plot was not necessarily the most disturbing tactic used here.

(Thank you Citizen A. You rule!)

i say WE incorporate and kick their ass!

That is one side of the equation The liberal economic elite also turned against the Great Society.

They want us under their thumb, shoping at the company store, owing the company store for rent, mortage whatever & keeping economic avenues limited.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
working for the man, not working, the anti trust rules need to be brought back so that tere is more competetion thuse more mobility & value to the worker,
Cartoons with a progressive edge
www.whatnowtoons.com

pretty good gang here,

good yak with Daniel Brook so far!

excellent approach to the probs we got going.

"The Trap" sounds like a good one, it's on my list for my next trip to Powells books.
Cartoons with a progressive edge
www.whatnowtoons.com

Conservatives like to think of animal protection as a trendy
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 3:26pm.

“Vegetarians have no
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 3:35pm.

Mind Benders:
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 3:40pm.
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Well Spoken.
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wiccandruid ;):(

Free education is a huge issue. But so is science and engineering. As a high school math teacher I want to say that nearly all our engineering positions in our colleges and universities are filled by foreign nationals. This has horrible implications for all of us.

Hello Sederistas!!!
Dunno exactly what I did, but have been laid up all week (alone except for the kitties) and am not getting any better so will be listening but not blgging this week.
Just wanted to say hello to all and wish everyone a happy sederista sunday.

Back to bed for me.

Be well and take good care everyone!!

N-kitti and her kitties

Reality. TV. Two more reasons to read.

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

I got caught in traffic on the Belt Expwy! What did I miss? Is there a SAMMY CAM?
Janice Brown

The fact is that every high school graduate should have successfully completed calculus. But our students do not study and our parents do not expect them to study. Therefore they cannot, repeat, cannot compete with their aisian counterparts in science and engineering.

Sam should move to NovaM. They probably can't afford an additional host, but they could replace the guy they currently have airing before Mike Malloy, who is not in Mike and Sam's league.

I don't know if I can listen to this taped show today. I know all the many varied ways the world has gone to hell in a hand-basket thanks to the Repugs. They're preaching to the converted, and it's a depressing sermon.

Can Someone Posts this Petition on DailyKos? :)
Submitted by MMRules on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 4:11pm.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/26/162239/705

Not only colleges. Companies like Intel bring in foreigners on special visas to replace the more expensive home-grown engineers.

AAr should bring back Marc Maron and team him with Sam Seder in the a.m. I read that the Young Turks show has lost some members. I don't listen to the Turks since they are not on in NYC.

And sence every white person knows that affirmative action is a bad idea, we cannot even talk about setting a percentage of our student positions for American citizens.

If Mark Green is a repug operative?

since

The Establishment, which includes the brunt of our government and media, constantly promotes war, albeit preemptive, perpetual, or various and sundry military operations. Consequently, truly progressive candidates have virtually no chance of winning the Democratic Primary. They would be cast as extreme, dangerous or simply naive. Although it is unlkely that Dennis Kucinich would change either his physical attributes or political philosophy, he might be able to drastically increase the sperm count of his publcicity campaign. Even then, the prognosis for his political survival is extremely poor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolutionary_thought

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_evolutionism

Quick hello all - back prb so flat on it in bed
Submitted by Nefferkitti on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 4:31pm.
Hello Sederistas!!!

Janice Brown

The near future
Submitted by SEDER on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 9:09pm.

I've been recording interviews with authors this week for our end of summer/not summer reading show on the 26th of this month. Not to worry, we won't have any more pre-tapes following the 26th.... I like it live. With that said, these are really interesting books and authors and I think the interviews have gone well. Our cupeth runneth over and we may play one of them this weekend.

Chad In Control (room)
Heya Chad, glad someone is!
Autopilot doesn't always work very well. :)

One problem in our public schools is the teaching of math--maybe it has changed since I got out eons ago. I, for one, was unable to get past early algebra until I stumbled upon a part-time college professor who developed a way to use "chips" to teach algebra. I damned near maxed the class.

A Rock Muse Remembers

It was Boyd who introduced Harrison to meditation, which led the Beatles to India in 1968.

painful Lionel promos
Submitted by bibimimi on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 4:03pm.
miss the sammycam

Janice Brown

tau·tol·o·gy - n.

1. Needless repetition of the same sense in different words; redundancy.
2. An instance of such repetition.
3. Logic: An empty or vacuous statement composed of simpler statements in a fashion that makes it logically true whether the simpler statements are factually true or false; for example, the statement Either it will rain tomorrow or it will not rain tomorrow.
4. When the 43rd US president attempts to "reinforce the propaganda."
4a. "It's hard work!"

everybody? (Not you.)

Hope those where potato chips, not implanted "chips".

canned or not, this is really inteligent programing, I'm loving these interviews. To think that Sam was replaced by the likes of Lionel is just absurd. Are they trying to wreck AAR from within? I live in a city that deley's Randi Rhodes so they can plug in Shultz, and I hear of other cities moving her to 6pm as well, the TV Hours? Isn't she beating the pants off Limburger and Hanity & Loufa man? Why would the run a live call in talk show #1 rated I might ad, to re brodcast at a time when there's a smaller audience?!!!! Again I ad, are they trying to wreck AAR frfom within?
Cartoons with a progressive edge
www.whatnowtoons.com

I didn't learn math until college. That was when I started putting in study time and having study partners. The fact is that everyone in the world can do math except Americans. And we suck at it. We don't teach math before high school. Elementary school teachers don't know any math at all so they can't teach math. and Kids don't take math seriously. But neither do their parents. You need to study math about three times as long as you study any other subject. Because it's math.

afternoon gang!

was listening and making lunch for me, Bgurl and the doggers.

good interviews! wonderfully fresh news and ideas.

http://risingtidenola.com/

Lively discussion!

Cui Bono?

Hope those where potato chips, not implanted "chips".

More like scrabble chips. Single Chip: 1,-1; 1x10 chip: 10, -10; 10x10 chip.

Flip-chip algebra

did someone mention the good doctor?

Hunter S something something?

Immigrants, Supporters Plan Business Boycott In Prince William Co.

Starting on Monday, immigrants and their supporters said they will begin a big boycott in Virginia.

They said they are angry at Prince William County and they will use their money to demand respect.

At the Woodbridge Laundromat, business dropped 40 percent when Prince William County supervisors passed resolutions aimed at cutting services to undocumented immigrants.

The poster on Ginger Trust's front window said she disapproved of the decision. It was also a sign for her Latino customer base.

On Monday, when there's a countywide boycott of businesses, that one will still be patronized by backers.

"It lets people know that we, as a family, as our business here in Woodbridge, we do not support the resolution," Trust said. "We, as a family, feel that it's a discrimination."

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Designed to show economic muscle, people supporting the boycott will only shop at businesses owned by immigrants or those that have rallied against the ordinances and have a green sign.

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Mexicans Without Borders said it plans on hanging out about 500 green cards to businesses that can still be patronized. They asked citizens who can't find those businesses to shop outside of the county for one week.

I think it is because the way it is taught--at least in part I will find a link to the book I am talking about..

"More like scrabble chips. Single Chip: 1,-1; 1x10 chip: 10, -10; 10x10 chip.

Flip-chip algebra"

poker chip possibilities...

Yes.

Any more questions?

Can you draw a cartoon of a AAR coconut tree with AAR nuts? Or maybe AAR nuts are mo related to the underground peanut.

Cui Bono?

"Suffering = suffering"

"Lacking a central nervous system and even a rudimentary consciousness necessary to experience pain, it would be impossible for plants to “suffer” in the sense that human and non-human animals do."

Is this not existential, semantic and a question of methods and moderation?

I think anyone with a shred of empathy does not want to see suffering of any kind nor do they want to know that the animals they are consuming suffered, yet that doesn't validate vegetarianism, it only validates humane treatment.

A plant most certainly suffers and feels stress. Plants don't want to be killed and eaten just as any other living being doesn't and evolve many of the same defense mechanisms as the animal kingdom: mimickry, camouflage, bad odor, inedibility, indigestibility, toxicity, thorns, etc. They areare still more defenseless despite this as they can't run or fight back. That we cannot relate to them probably aids in our ability to eat them without remorse. Also, if anything, plants are much more inorganically and inhuumanely raised than animals.

If one ceases to eat meat on the grounds of alleviating animal suffereing, then that is an admirable, importand and valid viewpoint. But, conversely, would these same people eat it if an animal could live a stress and pen-free existence and be fed and slaughtered humanely?

I have always eaten meat, and make it a point to read labels research farms and organic companies and purchase the best organic and free-range meat. I'm lucky nd I can afford it. I excercise and am active, alert and have no fat on me. I have a bunch of vegetarian friends, though and am often amazed at their poor health. One of my best friends and her husband are both vegetarians for mostly reasons surrounding animal suffering. They don't excercise are not active, are terrible cooks and eat more bread than anyone I have ever seen in my life. They also are very picky about the veggies they do eat which I find baffling because I eat more af a variety of fruits and vegetables than either of them.

I don't get a lot of the vegetarians I've met and most of them can't cook to save their lives. It is a great way to live and I would say that half of the meals I prepare for myself, friends and family are vegetarian, but, I find a lot of vegetarians to be self-aggrandizing, unfit and uneducated about nutrition. I also find it interesting that a lot of them eat fish and seafood knowing full well how they are caught, killed and processed, despite the obvious presence of a central nervous system.

http://www.activityresources.com/store/product.php?productid=192&cat=183...

Yeah, I agree. The student should be exposed as early as possible. I think the concepts behind math are rather simple but the symbology and "language" of math turns off many students. Hey, Einstein envisioned many of his discoveries before he knew the mathmatics to express them in a "formal" way.

'Can Someone Posts this Petition on DailyKos? :)
Submitted by MMRules on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 4:11pm.'

I was going to but I realized I never registered. I will post it now (after 24 hours). In the meantime, I've been posting it wherever I can.

SIGN THE PETITION
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-klsd-am-1360/sign.html

OK.
Submitted by Blog Slut on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 4:33pm.
Can Someone Posts this Petition on DailyKos? :)
Submitted by MMRules on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 4:11pm.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/26/162239/705
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Your as Hot as I Thought! ;)
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

goodun!

poker chip possibilities...

Poker chips are the same on both sides. Scrabble chips have a letter on one side, and blank on the other. 1;-1 Heads=1; Tails=-1

. I think the concepts behind math are rather simple but the symbology and "language" of math turns off many students.

Therefore, you just teach the students to do the math. The concepts will fall in place later. One way to weed people out is to impose rules and concepts "to master" in order to go on.

Blog Slut just posted it at DailyKos!
Thanks all you guys for passing along the word! :)
Ofcourse,Sederites are The Best!
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

YEA!!! They Cancelled contracts with Blackwater.
The University of Illinois
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 4:02pm.
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"Blackwater is well known for its private security forces used by the federal government in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The company also opened an 80-acre police training center, Blackwater North, in April in Mount Carroll, Ill., about 60 miles west of Rockford."

I was worried about CA and Blackwater(GRRR), which was doing "exercises" and border patrol -- but didn't know to what degree of "Emergency", then I heard:
... Stacy Tailor(not sure of name, yet) (stood in for Randi) works at:

KLSD http://www.saveklsd.com/

...spoke about how even he was worried about Blackwater around and San Diego.

Bloody "L" ... "Silent Scream" ... :(
grrr;)
wiccandruid

And Tea Cheers To All...C-Ya ;)
*poof*

[ - Attica ]

What would be so terrible about admitting that APIPAC and Lieberman (of the Likud party in the Israeli parliament, who knows if there's any relation to our Zell Miller Lieberman) are 50% of the EXXON angle to demonize BOMB Iran FOR THE FUCK OF IT, notwithstanding the fact that they have swapped 80% out of US DOLLARS to EUROS for their OIL and the other NEOCON BONHEADED CHICKENHAWK EVANGELICAL BS 50% motivation is the IRON TRIANGLE Carlyle Group who love the BLACK HOLE DoD accounting systems that makes ENRON - BCCI - SILVERADO look like midgets in comparison to the 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS LOST on 9/10/2001 when Rummy told he world that the DoD misplaced the US GNP?

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a091001defensebudget...

STOP SKIRTING THE ISSUE!!!

Or are you another Hartmann who is a MOLE that loves teaching history but will NEVER CALL FOR A GENERAL STRIKE or advocate SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVT to get IMPEACHMENT ON HE TABLE?

You've seen his resume haven't you? He's EX CIA and EX NSA! Go ahead ask him, or Larry his CIA god buddy. Randi may have cultivated relationships with spooks but she NEVER worked for a PMC like Coffer Black Dusty Fogo or was paid big bucks to hobnob with the boys on the farm.

Hehe, I had no idea what you were talking about. But yeah, the teacher can make all the difference.

I'm sure all you smart Seder fans have seen this (plus part two & three) but just in case:

Check it out.

I signed the petition. But I encourage all of you to do it. Less than 500 people have signed it. it is very easy. Just follow the link.

My professors were Pete Bohmer, a Marxist economist and veteran of the old New Left who was shot at by COINTELPRO-inspired thugs in San Diego in the early 1970s and has written articles about Cuba and the WTO protests for Z Magazine; Larry Mosqueda, a Mexican American professor specializing in political science and ethnic studies who made local headlines in the first Gulf War by standing on top of then-Senator Slade Gorton's desk during a protest that occupied his office; Gail Tremblay, an Oglala woman specializing in native studies and art; and Sunera Thobani, a visiting professor specializing in feminist issues who made news shortly after 9/11 for making an anti-US foreign policy speech in Ottawa that upset the Fox News set.

Save KLSD!

1969 - At a meeting in Berkeley shielded by National Guardsmen, the Regents censure McGill for defending Herbert Marcuse. For social conservatives everywhere, including Gov. Reagan, Marcuse is the focus of evil in the modern world. McGill has defended Marcuse citing academic freedom. San Diego-based regent DeWitt Higgs reads a message of support from local leaders, and Reagan withdraws. Regents impose student tuition for the first time.

" they danced down the road like dingledoddies and I shambled

blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awwww!"

Can I copy your class notes?

Cui Bono?

He[rbert Marcuse] emigrated from Germany that same year, going first to Switzerland, then the United States, where he became a citizen in 1940. During World War II he worked for the US Office of Strategic Services (forerunner of the CIA), analyzing intelligence reports about Germany (1942-45-51).
In 1952 Herbert began a university teaching career as a political theorist, first at Columbia and Harvard, then at Brandeis from 1954 to 1965, and finally (already retirement-age), at the University of California, San Diego.

His critiques of capitalist society (especially his 1955 synthesis of Marx and Freud, Eros and Civilization, and his 1964 book One-Dimensional Man) resonated with the concerns of the leftist student movement in the 1960s. Because of his willingness to engage seriously with (and support) student protesters, Herbert soon became known as "the father of the new left" (a term he disliked and rejected). He had many speaking engagements in the US and Europe in the late 1960s and in the 1970s. He died on July 29, 1979, after suffering a stroke during a visit to Germany.

I signed the petition. only 466 so far.

...

PB
"I am working as a reference librarian at the The Evergreen State College Library."
PBZMP

Sorry,if I missed anyone!

There's also alink there to email it to friends,family..etc..
I don't mean to push so hard,but Clear Channel needs to stop this BS!
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Submitted by Alice on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 5:40pm.
...

How did you get to be so brilliant? Self-taught genius example.

Perhaps yelling out your window would help

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-klsd-am-1360/sign.html

Did you see this, N.Rose?
http://academic.evergreen.edu/b/bohmerp/Venezuela0809.rtf

"I am working as a reference librarian at the The Evergreen State College Library."

Back in the day, we called it "Weyerhaeuser State College."

Pete Bohmer taught at San Diego Stae in the early 1970s. He once told me (in a lecture) that Herbert Marcuse--who taught at USD--advised him to get out of town before the police killed him. About 20 years later, Pete advised me in person to get out of Olympia before the police killed me.

"In fall we will also study research methods, develop documentation skills (using writing, photography, and audio recording), and explore popular education-based strategies of community collaboration."

Frameshop.com I love this site, Now he has a book? On my list with "The Trap". I first learned about this guy listening to Thom Hartmann.
This guy has gone for the crux of how the Repugnant party and bamboozled so many out of their own livelyhoods.
Cartoons with a progressive edge
www.whatnowtoons.com

yikes...!

That is just Pete. He is an expert on Latin American economics. He used to go to Cuba every Summer to work with the government. He is a New Left Marxist--not an authoritarian stalinist.

Janice Brown

?

I can't wait to see SAMMY on television soon, too!

Janeane Garofalo:
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 3:11pm.
"24" co-creator Joel Surnow called himself a "right-wing nut job"

Janice Brown

No, Mark Green is not a Repugnican operative, he's just your typical Democrat.

Ha! "the seder reader!"

Submitted by Sunshine Jim on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 5:15pm.
goodun!

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To paraphrase nobs way back when:

'This is where the readers hang out.'

*

I'm diggin' the hell outta this show. Feet up, cocktail in hand, nice buzz, takin' it all in.

Sam should use this format for any week off.

Green is fucking moron for not havin' Sammer on weekdays.

Pretty much. But he criticized Albert for being too critical of marxism. (That was about 15 years ago.) He and Albert are best friends. They, along with George Katsiaficas, were known as the Three Bears of M.I.T. Steven Shalom fits in there, too. They attended M.I.T. in the late 1960s.

Submitted by neoanachronism on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 6:00pm.
No, Mark Green is not a Repugnican operative, he's just your typical Democrat.

Amen!

My daughter is a Junior at Evergreen. Check out the curriculum sometime. It'll make you want to quit your job and return to school.

I didn't get one if he did...

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--Mark Green
Submitted by neoanachronism on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 6:00pm.
No, Mark Green is not a Repugnican operative, he's just your typical Democrat.--

Two snaps in a circle...!

--Peter Bohmer
Submitted by neoanachronism on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 6:04pm.
My daughter is a Junior at Evergreen. Check out the curriculum sometime. It'll make you want to quit your job and return to school.--

Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 3:05pm.
By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
__________________

Salve, Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici!

Ad astra per aspera!

It’s always good to see another Latin lover on Seder’s site (regardless of what Seder says about Latin).

n.b. In my book, a love of Latin is a stellar law. Amor est vitae essentia.

Janice Brown

Thanks Rob,Readabook ! :)
Submitted by MMRules on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 5:46pm.
Sorry,if I missed anyone!

There's also alink there to email it to friends,family..etc..
I don't mean to push so hard,but Clear Channel needs to stop this BS!

Submitted by neoanachronism on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 6:04pm.

So what are people there doing about Rep. Baird.

Janice Brown

Oh, Liberal-at-large, I couldn't have said it better!

Democracy Now! is a national, daily, independent, award-winning news program airing on over 450 stations in North America. Pioneering the largest public media collaboration in the U.S., Democracy Now! is broadcast on Pacifica, NPR, community, and college radio stations; on public access, PBS, satellite television (DISH network: Free Speech TV ch. 9415 and Link TV ch. 9410; DIRECTV: Link TV ch. 375); as a "podcast," and on the internet.

In addition it is broadcast throughout the world. It offers its headlines in both English and Spanish (and those are also carried by many radio stations).

It didn't build up overnight. It used traditional and then non-traditional means to become the force it is today and, again, should be used as the model for anyone attempting to start up a program or several programs.

By building an online audience across the nation, it had an audience that could advocate for local radio stations and TV stations to carry the program.

The reverse model is Air America Radio which started up with online streaming, archived broadcasts and blogs. The Majority Report quickly had to move its blog off of the AAR site. (Sensitivities were offended at The New York Times, primarily with regards to comments about Adam Nagourney and Jodi Wilgoren.) Then everything fell apart to the point that even Air America Place (not affiliated with Air America Radio) had to pull their own archives. Though allegedly a 24 hour, 7 day a week network, they toyed with limiting the amount of time online listeners could listen (three hours) and that also chapped their base. As did their streaming change which prevented stand alone Real Player or Windows Media Players and instead offered up an AAR player with non-stop visual ads which often cause the audio stream to drop out.

The lesson there, as Air America Radio continues to flounder, is that you don't go backwards. You don't offer various content and then begin reducing it. (AAR's reduced listenership also results from the loss of or reduction in hours of popular hosts such as Janeane Garofalo, Laura Flanders, Mike Malloy, Sam Seder, Lizz Winstead, Marc Maron and pushing non-left hosts -- Lionel Hampton, Bob Kerrey -- on what was supposed to be a left outlet.)

http://thirdestatesundayreview.blogspot.com/2007/08/thoughts-on-greensto...

John Abramson?

Amor est vitae essentia

I had to run out earlier, I missed yur post. This a terrific show--even recorded. We just have to keep supporting AAR until SAM decides to move on, then we still have to catch Randi's back. Mark Green is not a very smart man (as Forrest would say).
Janice Brown

. The Majority Report quickly had to move its blog off of the AAR site. (Sensitivities were offended at The New York Times, primarily with regards to comments about Adam Nagourney and Jodi Wilgoren.)

I thought that The Majority Report Blog started as separate from the main AAR site. Sam's blog. Anyway, I did not see how 3rd Estate factored in "market forces" in the critique of Air America's model.

FEAR! TERROR! NIGHTMARES! BOO!
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 5:25pm.
I'm sure all you smart Seder fans have seen this (plus part two & three) but just in case:
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BTW I Believe In Action Speaking Louder Than Rhetoric...
Hartmann Has Done, Many have "done the job", even I in my wee way -- What Have You Done?

Or are you another Hartmann who is a MOLE that loves teaching history but will NEVER CALL FOR A GENERAL STRIKE or advocate SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVT to get IMPEACHMENT ON HE TABLE?

HaHaHa ... He didn't before, but he has and is changing "twit" -- many DEMS are THINKING!
Again, besides "rhetoric BS", what have you done?

WiccanDruid

So far a nasty email-then I don't know what....I am appauled by this JERK.

Juan Cole interview is a good one.

So far a nasty email-then I don't know what....I am appauled by this JERK.

Occupy his office. We did that to Jolene Unsoeld's office in August 1990.

But then guess that would require a congress that didn't consider itself a lap dog for the president.

Maybe that's why Rep Kucinich is considered hard to work with- He has to deal with a caucus that pisses themselves every time he takes action, rather than doing the damned right thing and to hell with the consequences!

...don't forget to tune in to your local NBC affiliate for a special edition of Countdown (7PM edt, mdt & pdt; 6PM cdt).

You know, this guy:

[h/t to The News Hole for the pic & FDL for the link]

And be sure to let NBC know how you feel about Olbermann getting network time for his show. You know the rest of the MSM enablers are shittin' their pants at the prospect of KO getting more face time in front of viewers. Yeah, I'm lookin' at you, Timmeh.

Sounds good to me-what he did doesn't even make sense-this bunch of crooks gives me a headache.

Fantastic podcast thou. I'm going to hear this one at least three times.

First decent programming idea NBC has had in a long long while!

Good Night- and good luck :)

Sounds good to me-what he did doesn't even make sense-this bunch of crooks gives me a headache.

Take it ti his office. We marched into Jolene Unsoelid's campaign office across the street from Sylvester Park. Then we marched to the waterfront. Some of her staffers went with us. Big media splash, too. August 1990.

Did I miss
Submitted by Vi_Veri_Veniver... on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 6:17pm.
John Abramson?
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Amor est vitae essentia
Submitted by Vi_Veri_Veniver... on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 6:18pm.
Amor est vitae essentia

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Are you listening now? I hear Abramson’s voice on the radio.

Verbatim!

Veritas lux mea.

Amor vincit omnia.

with the wrong drugs!
Among other things...

when Christopher Boyce was found hiding out in Olympia,after his escape from prison?
"The Falcon,and The Snowman"fame.......
My older brother was a alter boy with those two morons....
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Sam is talking about Big Ed! Good one.

Until I got ran out of town.

Sorry WiccanDruid had trouble following ya there.

Doin' my wee part here. Don't you worry!

You do what you need to do & I'll do what I need to do to get done what needs to be done.

Part of the fight is sharing information, far more valuable than acting like a kook.

P.S. nani nani boo boo I do more than you do taunts are really impressive. ;)

On August 21, 1981, at approximately 8:20 p.m., Christopher John Boyce, escaped Federal prisoner and convicted Soviet spy, was arrested by a U.S. Marshals Service Task Force assisted by FBI agents. This arrest in the small town of Port Angeles, Washington, ended the most extensive and complex manhunt in the history of the Service in the 1980's.

A little before my time.

The music group The Fleetwoods were from Olympia.

This is only the tip of the iceberg. I'm a psychiatrist that subspecializes in the treatment of addictions. The overprescribing of Vicodin and Oxycontin is out of control. It is creating a generation of Heroin addicts as people become addicted to these drugs, and then find that Heroin is more available and less expensive. The drug company has recently lost a law suit to the tune of $60 million for misrepresenting the addiction potential of the drug. Yet, docs are still prescribing this shit like it's candy.
Then there's the current fad of diagnosing everyone and their dog with Attention Deficit Disorder, and prescribing amphetamines. When I attempt to explain to patients that they do not have ADD or ADHD, they respond "But I took the (Ritalin/Adderall/Concerta/etc) and I felt so much better. I felt that I could get so much more done". I have to restrain myself from saying "Duh!". No kidding, speed makes you feel better and helps you get more done (in the short term!). Perhaps, that's why we all used it in college and medical school, and that's why they are highly abusable.

Take it ti his office. We marched into Jolene Unsoelid's campaign office across the street from Sylvester Park. Then we marched to the waterfront. Some of her staffers went with us. Big media splash, too. August 1990.

That is awesome-looks like he has voted with the dark side before. Time to go I'd say.......

Born in Chicago, Jones grew up in a family she has described as "lower-middle-class-hillbilly-hipster" in Chicago, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Arizona, and Olympia, Washington. Her grandfather, nicknamed "Peg Leg Jones," had come from a vaudeville background, and Jones has spoken of her Welsh ancestry and her gypsy[disambiguation needed] heritage.
wiki

That is awesome-looks like he has voted with the dark side before. Time to go I'd say.......

I met him at the 1996 Labor Day Picnic in Sylvester Park. He had a big ego. Very defensive. Put pressure on him. Make him do the right thing, or vote his ass out.

Sam has had some cutting-edge guests, today. We know what we need to do. Disempower corporations. Democracy. False sense of autonomy through markets is fatal.

Yeah,I was thinking it might be..But,I had to ask..
And,San Diego is alot more radical than I thought!
You have been giving me a history lesson.
I didn't grow up here,so I don't know the history that well.
But,it sure seems conservative to me..At least compared to LA.. :)
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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

Great show, Seder & crew.

ImPeaches, gang!

Peace

As far as Seder's show is concerned, I much prefer new pre-recorded to best-of and guest hosts. Of course, *LIVE* is still tops :)

Amor Vincit Omnia

Infinitas.

:)

canned ham that was delicious!

and enough for a coupla more dinners later this week!

but it's only 6MB/26min!?
Uh-oh! I wonder what's innit?

http://download.rbn.com/airam/airam/download/archive/2007/08/aass082607....

it's Mother Jones Radio.

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Talking about KLSD on KPOJ right now.

http://www.620kpoj.com/main.html

How exactly do damaging drugs make it to the market? We’re on the trail of who’s funding the Food and Drug Administration with Dr. Steve Nissen, Chairman, Department of Cardiovascular Medicine, at the Cleveland Clinic, Heart and Vascular Institute and President, American College of Cardiology.

http://www.ringoffireradio.com/

http://podcast.rbn.com/airam/airam/download/archive/2007/08/aarf082507.m...

Great show Sam! It is great you are back on XM 167 live. I am presently reading Glen Greenwald's "A Tragic Legacy". It tells why Bush is so obstinate. Bush believes he will be vindicated with the Almighty despite the ongoing Iraq debacle.

War Resister Camilo Mejia Elected to Chair Iraq Veterans Against the War, Group Encourages U.S. Troops to Refuse to Fight - by Camilo Mejia - by Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez

JUAN GONZALEZ: Members of one of the country’s leading Iraq war veterans’ organizations voted this weekend to launch a campaign encouraging US troops to refuse to fight. The decision was made at the group’s annual membership meeting held last week in St. Louis, Missouri, alongside the annual convention of the Veterans for Peace Organization. To underscore the point, Iraq Veterans Against the War elected Sergeant Camilo Mejia to chair its board of directors.

Mejia is the first US combat veteran to publicly refuse to redeploy to Iraq. He served six months in Iraq in 2003 with the Florida National Guard. While on a two-week leave in the United States, he decided never to return. Mejia went into hiding to avoid redeployment and was classified as AWOL, or absent without leave. After five months on the run, he surrendered to the military at Fort Stewart, Georgia and submitted a formal application for discharge as a conscientious objector. His application was denied.

JUAN GONZALEZ: Members of one of the country’s leading Iraq war veterans’ organizations voted this weekend to launch a campaign encouraging US troops to refuse to fight. The decision was made at the group’s annual membership meeting held last week in St. Louis, Missouri, alongside the annual convention of the Veterans for Peace Organization. To underscore the point, Iraq Veterans Against the War elected Sergeant Camilo Mejia to chair its board of directors.

That's why Emma Goldman was deported in 1919.

http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Goldman/Exhibition/deportation.html

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_archives/index.html

Voltairine de Cleyre

...
But what the working-class can do, when once they grow into a solidified organization, is to show the possessing class, through a sudden cessation of all work, that the whole social structure rests on them; that the possessions of the others are absolutely worthless to them without the workers' activity; that such protests, such strikes, are inherent in the system of property and will continually recur until the whole thing is abolished -- and having shown that effectively, proceed to expropriate.

"But the military power," says the political actionist; "we must get political power, or the military will be used against us!"

Against a real General Strike, the military can do nothing. Oh, true, if you have a Socialist Briand in power, he may declare the workers "public officials" and try to make them serve against themselves! But against the solid wall of an immobile working- mass, even a Briand would be broken.

Meanwhile, until this international awakening, the war will go on as it had been going, in spite of all the hysteria which well-meaning people who do not understand life and its necessities may manifest; in spite of all the shivering that timid leaders have done; in spite of all the reactionary revenges that may be taken; in spite of all the capital that politicians make out of the situation. It will go on because Life cries to live, and Property denies its freedom to live; and Life will not submit.

And should not submit.
...

of Freethought
...
The question is, does freethought contain such a principle? And right here permit me to introduce a sort of supplementary text, taken, I think, from a recent letter of Cardinal Manning, but if not Cardinal Manning, then some other of the various dunce-capped gentlemen who recently "biled" over the Bruno monument.

Says the Cardinal: "Freethought leads to Atheism, to the destruction of social and civil order, and to the overthrow of government." I accept the gentleman's statement; I credit him with much intellectual acumen for perceiving that which many freethinkers have failed to perceive: accepting it, I shall do my best to prove it, and then endeavor to show that this very iconoclastic principle is the salvation of the economic slave and the destruction of the economic tyrant.
...

Terrific statement! It doesn't necessarily lead to atheism--imho. But it can lead to the dismantling of vested religious power.

--Hoover advanced his career by implementing to the fullest extent possible the government's plan to deport all foreign-born radicals.--

The Deportation of Elvira Arellano - Juventud Rebelde, the island's second-largest daily, posted a feature story on her, and then translated it for the English-speaking world.

--It doesn't necessarily lead to atheism--

Hard to know though exactly what that word meant to her.

to the good Cardinal, atheism=anti-clericalism.

--Hoover advanced his career by implementing to the fullest extent possible the government's plan to deport all foreign-born radicals.--

There was resistance to the deportation of Emma Goldman. It is just that the government then, like now, has immense power to impose its will.

Palmer raids/Patriot Act

Submitted by Alice on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 8:49pm.
--It doesn't necessarily lead to atheism--
Hard to know though exactly what that word meant to her.
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The belief in athe's. What's so difficult about that?

Open up your mind and let me step inside
Rest your weary head and let your heart decide
It's so easy when you know the rules
It's so easy all you have to do
Is fall in love, play the game
Everybody play the game of love

When you're feeling down and your resistance is low
Light another cigarette and let yourself go
This is your life, don't play hard to get
It's a free world
All you have to do is fall in love
Play the game, everyone play the game of love

My game of love has just begun
Love runs from my head down to my toes
My love is pumping through my veins (play the game)
Driving me insane, Come, come, come, come
Play the game, play the game, play the game, play the game

IMO

Online users

* Alice
* allie
* Nicky Rose

:)

WHAT’S ANARCHISM?, 1932

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The truth is apparent that all peoples are naturally peaceful or it would not be possible for a comparatively handful of policemen to control multitudes of the people and hold them in check.

* * *

Sincerity of purpose always expresses itself in action. Such sincerity never fails to compel attention. So long as you merely talk about your ideals, they will remain mere ideals. But if your talk is no mere lip-service, if you feel your convictions, if they permeated your being, they will inevitably express themselves in your daily life, in your attitude toward things, in your every action. They will then shape your life; they will make you different from other people, in proportion as your ideal is different from theirs. Then your ideal will cease to be merely an ideal. It will have become a part of yourself; and to that extent, materialized. Thus, and thus only, are ideals propagated and transmitted into life.

Anarchy is such an ideal. It expresses the highest conception of individual liberty and social solidarity. It is not a mere theory to be realized in some distant future. It is a mode of living, to be practiced right here and now.

THE END

http://samsedershow.com/comment/reply/1142#comment-form

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dogger walk at quickmarch around hood with multi-sniff stops... check

back to house, let visiting dog guest in... check

divvy out greenies and milk bones... check

(whew! get to sit down again and catch up with blog!)

Forgive me for being bitchy. If you don't want to read my bitchy comments, scroll on by.

I am editing a transcript of a potential book written by a guy who wants to key-in the adult children of aging parents to the pitfalls extant in the old-age process. The author has a stake in all of this; he owns and operates a company that caters to the facilitation of caring for the aging who are in transition to becoming the decrepit members of the aging population.

For seventeen chapters we were on the same page (so to speak). In chapter eighteen, he dissertated on the awfulness of aging parents who hope to preserve their wealth as inheritance for their offspring by giving it up before the government takes it to pay for their care...and by dissertating on offspring who are scum when they hope that the health-care costs of their aging parents won't deplete their inheritances.

I am obligated to correct his English (grammar, spelling, clarity-of-thought, etc.) yet I was compelled to enter one opinion notated as my opinion.

First, the health care system in the U.S.A. sucks. Second, the "end-of-life" health care system in the U.S.A. sucks. Third, the notion that the poor should be required to deplete their assets as needed, in order to die, before the "government" kicks-in a buck or two sucks.

Why?

Because, first, it is a burden fostered only on the "not wealthy". Second, because, like winning within the judicial system or having a broken leg repaired, it is geared toward the wealthy who are not caused to become destitute during the effort to become "whole".

Further, by depleting assets of the "not wealthy" during their elderly, health-care years, our society ensures that only the wealthy will have assets to pass along to their heirs...which ensures that only the wealthy class will pass-on their "wealthiness" to their offspring...thus ensuring that only the wealthy class will have a head-start on being wealthy.

Anyone who believes that ordinary "oldness" is reason enough to deplete a lifetime of accumulated wealth is banging the ever-increasing-cost of health care drum...and is a hardened capitalist for which everything has a price that must be incurred by the buyer, willing or not.

I agree with the author in that he says heirs who deny parents adequate health care during their latter years are scumbags. I disagree that any cost is reasonable. Vehemently.

The cost of being old and the depletion of inherited wealth is increasing in lockstep. The people on the bottom end of wealth don't like it and the people on the top end of wealth don't care.

I would say this to the author and anyone else: Let the dividing line between personal expenditures and government expenditures for the health care of the aged be a percentage of accumulated wealth. Pick a number. Ten percent seems fair. If you burn through ten percent, the government will pick up the rest.

First, the health care system in the U.S.A. sucks. Second, the "end-of-life" health care system in the U.S.A. sucks. Third, the notion that the poor should be required to deplete their assets as needed, in order to die, before the "government" kicks-in a buck or two sucks.

Ain't that the truth!

Submitted by MMRules on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 5:20pm.
"Blog Slut just posted it at DailyKos!
Thanks all you guys for passing along the word! :)
Ofcourse,Sederites are The Best!"

Awesome!

Submitted by Nicky Rose on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 9:52pm
Ain't that the truth!
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I've added you to my "U.S.A. Health Care Sucks" fan club. You will be receiving official "old guy" nose and ear hairs by post.

[ - Attica ]

I say take away Thom's 1st hour where he gives rightwnignuts a platform to launch their narcissistic pathological fatally flawed NEOCON Ayr Rand BS every day, a TOTAL WASTE. and give that to Sam.

But this isn't a democracy is it?

PS:
I think Thom's gradually being sucked over to the dark side by exposing himself to irrational extremists every day. As the probability of impeachment slips away watch as he embraces the horror of the remaining doomed days of the FAR RIGHT regime, only to be replaced by NEOCON LITE with The Clinton Dynasty, per the MS GE MURDOCH MACHINE.

was more important than this rhetoric. But to remind:

FEAR! TERROR! NIGHTMARES! BOO!
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 5:25pm.
I'm sure all you smart Seder fans have seen this (plus part two & three) but just in case:
An insult, then you attacked Hartmann. I responded to your tripe.

Or are you another Hartmann who is a MOLE that loves teaching history but will NEVER CALL FOR A GENERAL STRIKE or advocate SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVT to get IMPEACHMENT ON HE TABLE?

An insult thus I responded: post as follows:

Anon 26 5:26pm,thx I Wanted To Find Out What The Others Knew
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 6:21pm.
FEAR! TERROR! NIGHTMARES! BOO!
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 5:25pm.
I'm sure all you smart Seder fans have seen this (plus part two & three) but just in case:
I am not and will never be what was played! I was insulted you wasted my "precious" time since there was another video that was more the issue of TRUTH and warranted my time "...* Everybody Look * -- What's Going Down?"
Now I walk Away. :|
We should not divide and be conquered. Ni Neart Go Cur ... (continued)
"In Unity There Is Strength."

WiccanDruid ;)

Huh? Is this the shorter thread?

http://www.samsedershow.com/node/1142